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Speaker 1: I have two of the contestants from The Challenge Australia.
Speaker 1: It is former Master Chef Australia and Bachelor contestants Connor
Speaker 1: and Conrad. Connor was one of the many celebrated Master
Speaker 1: Chef Australia contestants who made an impact cooking up a
Speaker 1: storm on that series. But it will be his quest
Speaker 1: to prove to the queer community and the Challenge Australia
Speaker 1: that he is a Challenge beast. That will be pretty
Speaker 1: much how I will always remember him. Conrad is known
Speaker 1: for his romances with Bachelorette's Brook Blurton and TV personality
Speaker 1: Abby Chatfield, but now single and ready to mingle. He
Speaker 1: found himself in a spa with Megan, but it was
Speaker 1: his romp with Troy that will probably stay in my
Speaker 1: mind for quite some time. I will ask Connor about
Speaker 1: his villain edit those clashes and near passions with fellow contestants.
Speaker 1: Then with Conrad we will talk breakups and hookups, and
Speaker 1: then I'll ask them both five need to know questions
Speaker 1: that will probably leave you quite shocked. However, let's get
Speaker 1: started with today's guests. I'd like to welcome Connor and
Speaker 1: Conrad from the Challenge Australia to TV Reload.
Speaker 2: So I was doing it for, you know, that little
Speaker 2: chunky queer boy that lives within me still, that was
Speaker 2: heavily bullied in school.
Speaker 1: This could be the very last challenge and elimination.
Speaker 3: Even me watching it back in some of my interviews,
Speaker 3: I did feel a lot, you know, I felt like
Speaker 3: I was quite flat and I'm bothered by Conrad size,
Speaker 3: like he's going to be a fierce competitor.
Speaker 2: Either way. As a few people went into the house,
Speaker 2: they did actually chann on their partners and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to have that for myself.
Speaker 3: In third place, for the men with an unbelievable effort. Connor,
Speaker 3: I guess the more annoying thing about this situation is
Speaker 3: nothing bad the people who are trying to find something.
Speaker 3: If you're letting go of the you're literally letting that
Speaker 3: treo hundred thousand dollars of the way, exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's villainous beating other people at the
Speaker 2: hard actual challenges.
Speaker 4: So that's being a villain then sure, Hey.
Speaker 1: Connor, congratulations on surviving the Challenge Australia.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It really feels I hate to use the day word,
Speaker 2: but this one's been an absolute journey we get.
Speaker 1: To you know, everyone knows this. You can't say the
Speaker 1: journey word in reality TV. And the reason why was
Speaker 1: because on Australian Idol and Big Brother, which were like,
Speaker 1: you know, the mother and father of reality shows here
Speaker 1: in Australia, that's what every contestant would say every year,
Speaker 1: the journey, the journey.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. It was drilled into your
Speaker 2: master Chef. But no, it's a look. I to make
Speaker 2: the top eight, like, I don't think anyone would have
Speaker 2: had me in their fantasy team to get there.
Speaker 4: But I'm pretty happy to be there, Connor.
Speaker 1: You were definitely not in my fantasy team. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was it. I mean, I loved your
Speaker 1: master Chef, but I just didn't see you fitting into
Speaker 1: the show. But you were the biggest surprise of the season. Really,
Speaker 1: you really were. Okay, I said this to a friend
Speaker 1: of mine. You earned your paycheck. You know, you knew
Speaker 1: what you were there to do, and well done for
Speaker 1: showing up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, kidd been I really everyone did the same
Speaker 2: thing when I was there. I think by the time
Speaker 2: I got to what was what episode eight last night,
Speaker 2: it was truly the first elimination where my name wasn't
Speaker 2: really even bantered around, And it was probably the first
Speaker 2: club night out that I actually enjoyed. And I think
Speaker 2: the Brooks just looked at me and just like, go
Speaker 2: have a good night.
Speaker 4: You probably deserve it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, it was nice to get there,
Speaker 2: and it was nice to know that I earned it,
Speaker 2: opposed to maybe just kind of like guiding and cruising
Speaker 2: my way through to the end.
Speaker 1: You were kind of a bit villainous in this, and
Speaker 1: to me it felt like you leaned into your villainry.
Speaker 2: Oh my villain era. Look, I think definitely the start
Speaker 2: of the season. I think when a big trunk of
Speaker 2: peeople are coming at you for a little reason as well,
Speaker 2: just particularly because you're weak, it did very much turn
Speaker 2: something in me. But I don't think it's villainous, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to protect myself. I don't think it's villainous beating
Speaker 2: other people at the hard actual challenges.
Speaker 4: So if that's being a villain, then sure.
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about how the way you
Speaker 1: came across? So was it unusual to see your edit or?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like to say the word edit
Speaker 1: because I don't think. I think producers do a very
Speaker 1: good job of playing people as they are. I really do.
Speaker 1: But were you happy with watching the show back?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was actually pleasantly surprised. I think I was really
Speaker 2: proud of how I handed myself in the actual competition.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people don't see what happens.
Speaker 2: It is a twenty four to seven film show, and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people should be sending some
Speaker 2: very lovely emails to production to thank them for their edits.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I came across exactly who I am,
Speaker 2: you know, on Mastership, it's all about love and positivity,
Speaker 2: and there's no real backstabbing, so you don't really get
Speaker 2: to see sides of people. I think I got to
Speaker 2: show a lot of different sides to me. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not a perfect person. I have multiple facets to
Speaker 2: my personality and who I am. But I'm strong in
Speaker 2: what I believe, and I stand up for myself, and
Speaker 2: if people are going to come for me, well then
Speaker 2: I take it upon myself, apparently to remove.
Speaker 1: Them from a competition, rightfully.
Speaker 2: So I've always been a big belief that queer people
Speaker 2: on TV is just incredibly important. You're one of the
Speaker 2: first queer people I remember seeing on TV, and so
Speaker 2: for me to be there, I think it's very easy
Speaker 2: to make the queer person the bully. I think that's
Speaker 2: quite easy. I think it would shock a lot of
Speaker 2: people that it was actually very much the other way around,
Speaker 2: and that it was a big bunch of strong, cool
Speaker 2: kids coming for the little queer boy. And I make
Speaker 2: no qualms about standing up for myself. And if you
Speaker 2: watch the edit, I really didn't really have anything too
Speaker 2: horrible to say about them, whereas a lot of people
Speaker 2: had some horrible things to say about me, and that's
Speaker 2: just not my style. So I really truly don't feel
Speaker 2: like it came across like a bully. And I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people have responded and sent me messages
Speaker 2: saying I'm very much not the villain. I don't think
Speaker 2: there was even a way for me to be the villain,
Speaker 2: because I don't think I did anything that villainous.
Speaker 1: Do you think that we've changed the way in which
Speaker 1: queer people are being seen on TV?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: You are right? I think you know, we've been on
Speaker 1: a real journey. Back in the day of you work
Speaker 1: cast on a show you were were pretty much given
Speaker 1: a villain at it in a way. But do you
Speaker 1: think we're changing the way like because I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't even you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: got to see you talking about your queenness a little bit,
Speaker 1: but sort of feel like they jam it down our
Speaker 1: throat as much as what they used to or packages
Speaker 1: us as just the queer person. I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of changed.
Speaker 4: It definitely has changed.
Speaker 2: And you know, on my season of Master Chep, six
Speaker 2: of the twelve boys were gay, you know, so that
Speaker 2: already shows you that there is so many different faceted
Speaker 2: versions of queenness and how that works, and we're seeing
Speaker 2: so much of it now, which is incredible, And that
Speaker 2: was the reason I wanted to show, you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to prove that you could be queer and you
Speaker 2: could be strong, and you could you didn't have to
Speaker 2: be a muscled up gay person. You know, I've suffered
Speaker 2: from not being a muscled up gay person in the queer.
Speaker 4: Kind of community. So with even within my community, I'm
Speaker 4: a little ostracized on that level.
Speaker 2: So I was doing it for, you know, that little
Speaker 2: chunky queer boy that lives within me still, that was
Speaker 2: heavily bullied in school, that was told he couldn't do it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: So it was very personal for me to be.
Speaker 2: There, and it was on another level, it was hopefully
Speaker 2: going to mean something to someone who is younger than
Speaker 2: me possibly watching.
Speaker 1: What do you think this was like in comparison to Mastership?
Speaker 1: I mean, they are very different formatted shows. But like
Speaker 1: you know, now, having these two experiences being so different,
Speaker 1: you know, what were the major differences in making reality
Speaker 1: TV between these two shows.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're very different.
Speaker 2: Weirdly enough, I actually think, look, I'll be very honest
Speaker 2: in terms of Mars chef was just a very joyous experience.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't looking to get much out of this.
Speaker 2: I think I was a lot more determined in the
Speaker 2: challenge and it was something where I could probably surprise
Speaker 2: people as well. So that was a really exciting prospect.
Speaker 2: Living with a bunch of people who really represent society
Speaker 2: in a weird way, you know, that was quite difficult.
Speaker 2: In my day to day life. I have a bubble
Speaker 2: that's very protective of me. I have a I'm surrounded
Speaker 2: by people I love and a lot of queer and
Speaker 2: allied based people. And I went into a house that
Speaker 2: represents a bit more of Australia where there are people
Speaker 2: who aren't on my side in life, and so that
Speaker 2: was really confronting. In the first two weeks were very difficult,
Speaker 2: but I've got a loving partner who was there for
Speaker 2: me when I needed to call him, and he just
Speaker 2: kept telling.
Speaker 4: Me that you know, you know why you're there, and
Speaker 4: you know why you're doing this.
Speaker 2: And I will very happily admit it got better as
Speaker 2: time when on. Once I started the bubble around me
Speaker 2: in the house was really people that I would have
Speaker 2: in my life day to day.
Speaker 1: I love following you for your cocktails. Just by the way,
Speaker 1: thank you. I love cocktails. I love cocktails, and I
Speaker 1: like to watch you make the cocktails. You always look
Speaker 1: very happy doing that. But yeah, look, I think that
Speaker 1: you If anyone's listening to this, follow you on Instagram
Speaker 1: because and I don't say that about anyone, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I do really appreciate following you online. What was I
Speaker 1: going to ask you? I was going to say, Oh,
Speaker 1: everyone that's come on the podcast, I've been asking them
Speaker 1: like the rumor mill, because so many rumors came out
Speaker 1: while the show was going on. What's your story? Because
Speaker 1: there was this rumor that came out that Jack and
Speaker 1: you hooked up, but that that quickly changed to Jack
Speaker 1: hitting on you, and then it's now changed into a
Speaker 1: few different things. What's the truth behind that story? What happened?
Speaker 1: What happened with Jack Vigeon?
Speaker 2: Okay, I will tell you from a first hand account
Speaker 2: exactly what happened, because I was there and prefaces I
Speaker 2: love Jack. Jack is an absolute, delightful human being. But essentially,
Speaker 2: on the first night, I was in a non monogamous
Speaker 2: relationship at the time, and that was quite clear, and
Speaker 2: me and Conrad had great conversations about non monogomy in
Speaker 2: the house that obviously was not using the edit. But
Speaker 2: on the first night, I was saying, it's being about
Speaker 2: my partner at the time, and you know, a few
Speaker 2: drinks I had and I walked Jack back to his room,
Speaker 2: which I know sounds very romantic, but it was just
Speaker 2: on the way to my room and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: good night, babe, and he just went in for a
Speaker 2: kiss and I kind of jerked my face away and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh no.
Speaker 4: I've got cold saughs I can't.
Speaker 2: But then also, on the other hand, I was going
Speaker 2: to get with anyone and then have my partner have
Speaker 2: to watch it back despite being non monogamous.
Speaker 4: So that's what happens.
Speaker 2: The next day, we laughed about it and we had
Speaker 2: breakfast and life went on.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, So that's been settled. So there's definitely no
Speaker 1: reality TV romance with you. Just the only reality TV
Speaker 1: romance apparently now is Emily and Ryan.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I didn't want to, like, I know, I'm
Speaker 4: being non monogamous.
Speaker 2: I was like, I can do whatever I want essentially
Speaker 2: with what we've spoken about, but I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was fair for my partner to watch it on TV,
Speaker 2: and you know, as a few people got went into
Speaker 2: the house, they did actually chand on their partners, Emily
Speaker 2: being one included, and I didn't want to have that
Speaker 2: for myself.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, there was a lot of hookups in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the one thing that was coming
Speaker 1: out of this show was that, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people have got partners, but everyone's still hooking up.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a work Christmas party that went
Speaker 1: for too long, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was the problem is you've got to do the
Speaker 2: clean up the next day and everyone's still over and
Speaker 2: you don't really want to speak to anyone, but there's
Speaker 2: no doors.
Speaker 4: There's a houseful of no doors, which was annoying.
Speaker 1: So so, yeah, do you have any outstanding beef with
Speaker 1: anyone since the show's been rapped?
Speaker 4: I don't have time. Honestly.
Speaker 2: I love my life so much and I look at
Speaker 2: it as a show. I took a massive bunch of
Speaker 2: friends out of it, and I'm too loved and I'm
Speaker 2: too happy in my own day to day life.
Speaker 4: I love what I do. So there's I actually don't
Speaker 4: have time.
Speaker 1: Well, what sort of training do you do? To go
Speaker 1: and do this sort of a show, did you, because
Speaker 1: I know Emily, did I know a few people you
Speaker 1: know rewatched or were able to get access to the
Speaker 1: challenge and versions of it from around the world. What
Speaker 1: sort of training did you do before going in there?
Speaker 4: Okay, so I swear to you. I went over to
Speaker 4: London because I used to live in London.
Speaker 2: So I went over for a month to see my mates,
Speaker 2: and I just was pretty much out every night partying,
Speaker 2: and then came home and then pretty much flew straight
Speaker 2: to Argentina. So I hadn't really done any training, and
Speaker 2: I had never seen the show either. I really went
Speaker 2: in completely blind, thinking, let's just see what happens.
Speaker 1: Why did you do this show? Like as in I
Speaker 1: can't when they're scouring the type of people that they
Speaker 1: looked and the people that they found for this show.
Speaker 1: You know fair to say you know the type of people,
Speaker 1: your name doesn't really come straight to mind. So how
Speaker 1: did you get picked to do this show?
Speaker 4: I was as shocked as you Ben.
Speaker 2: There is a lovely producer called Sky who I think
Speaker 2: she just saw something in me, maybe something that I
Speaker 2: didn't see in myself, to be completely honest, and I
Speaker 2: had no idea what it was really going to be,
Speaker 2: but I thought, why not, you know, I if I
Speaker 2: didn't go on a MARCHI if my life would be
Speaker 2: the way it is now. So I always think you
Speaker 2: might as well just do everything that's offer to you,
Speaker 2: and so I really just kind of was like, let's
Speaker 2: just give this, just give this a shot. I've always
Speaker 2: been competitive, I've played a lot of sport growing up.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm in physical peak, but she very
Speaker 2: much told me that the game isn't just strength. There's
Speaker 2: a lot more involved, and if you watch a show,
Speaker 2: you'll see that. Puzzles really were something I had in
Speaker 2: my back pocket the whole time. I love puzzles, I
Speaker 2: love maths, I love anything to do with like.
Speaker 4: Memory based things.
Speaker 2: So for me, I thought, if there was a chance
Speaker 2: that I could get to those puzzle games, I could
Speaker 2: do quite well.
Speaker 1: I kind of thought to myself when I heard the
Speaker 1: casting and as I said, i'd seen your master shifts,
Speaker 1: I knew who you were for sure. I was like,
Speaker 1: I've also worked in restaurants and hospitality and a bit
Speaker 1: of drama goes down there, and I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: he's I think he's I think he's currently a restaurant manager.
Speaker 1: He understands politics and drama better than anyone, so maybe
Speaker 1: he's perfect for this.
Speaker 2: I think also, I think maybe there was this idea
Speaker 2: that my social game could be really excellent, which, as
Speaker 2: it turns out, it was absolutely dreadful until about the
Speaker 2: halfway mark. But the good thing about me is is
Speaker 2: that once you do like me, you really do love me.
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was a coincidence that nine
Speaker 2: people came to my side halfway through the season and
Speaker 2: the you know so the social game did kick in
Speaker 2: and weirdly end up having a physical game.
Speaker 4: I think I am one.
Speaker 2: Of the better from what I've heard from people who
Speaker 2: watch a challenge, one of the better challenges, weirdly enough,
Speaker 2: because you can't really put a percentage on brain power
Speaker 2: or like wanting it and passion, which I think is
Speaker 2: something I have. And the game's about really really based
Speaker 2: around teamwork and what do you do in a kitchen
Speaker 2: and a restaurant.
Speaker 4: It's all teamwork.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 4: The teamwork part really came in.
Speaker 1: I've got that written down. It's like my next question,
Speaker 1: you know you understand teamwork, and I think that that
Speaker 1: would have come in handy, and I think I think also,
Speaker 1: do you know what, It's funny you do reality shows
Speaker 1: and you think you're going to have a strategy, and
Speaker 1: it's not until really the halfway mark that you really
Speaker 1: relax into who you are anyway, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I think that's I think that's fairly normal.
Speaker 1: And then all of the skills that you have in
Speaker 1: your real world seem to surface, they seem to rise
Speaker 1: to the top, is the best way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny you say that.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think legitimately halfway through the process, I turned
Speaker 2: around and I started making past it every day just
Speaker 2: to calm down.
Speaker 4: And everyone came.
Speaker 2: Up to me and we're like, ah, and like, this
Speaker 2: is the person who you are? Like, I just became
Speaker 2: myself so much more. I think I very quickly became
Speaker 2: that like Bully day Kin in high school, wanting everyone
Speaker 2: to like me at the start, and then halfway through
Speaker 2: I just stopped caring and I actually did become myself.
Speaker 2: And it's funny you It does take a bit longer,
Speaker 2: I think for certain people to settle into environments are
Speaker 2: just not used to.
Speaker 1: I think that's perfectly normal. You know, if this was
Speaker 1: the discovery channel. This was the National Geographics and you
Speaker 1: had you know, David Attenbro narrating it. I think that's
Speaker 1: what he would be saying, you know, right now, these
Speaker 1: people are bout shit crazy while they find their feet,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, very obviously, my David. I didn't even
Speaker 1: do the David appro voice because I would be terrible
Speaker 1: at it. But anyway, I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: because I saw you being friends with Conrad and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Conrad's there, and at the time, he
Speaker 1: was dating Abbi Chadfield, and so I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people were expecting to hear him, you know, talk
Speaker 1: about his relationship with Abby. Did he not talk about
Speaker 1: it at all? Because it's never really mentioned and probably
Speaker 1: because time's gone on. But was he not talking about
Speaker 1: Abby Chadfield while he was in there?
Speaker 4: I can speak from my experience.
Speaker 2: So I actually shared a bedroom with Kieren and Conrad
Speaker 2: the whole time, but the three of us became really
Speaker 2: quite close, and I spoke.
Speaker 1: To me trying to hug you at one point and
Speaker 1: call you Abby in the middle of the night, or
Speaker 1: that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I wish he did. I feel like I was jumping
Speaker 2: into his bed. Moores for like just for like spoon
Speaker 2: and touch, I'm the other guy. There's your there's your headline.
Speaker 4: No, no, he was.
Speaker 2: Me and him spoke a lot about it, particularly because
Speaker 2: of non monogamy and relationships and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and he was on his own journey with pan sexuality
Speaker 2: as well, so me and him had a heap of
Speaker 2: conversations about her and a lot of other things. But
Speaker 2: it wasn't as interesting as I think people will have.
Speaker 2: It was quite a boring. You know, they had ended
Speaker 2: it before he came in, and there wasn't a lot
Speaker 2: of juice or meat there, maybe because it was just
Speaker 2: very you know, everyday conversations.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it was kind of done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why the him and Megan thing
Speaker 2: was so nice because they were really upfront about it
Speaker 2: and there's not really much drama that you can really
Speaker 2: make from people who are just being honest about what's happening.
Speaker 1: Well before you go. I mean, I think you were
Speaker 1: so good on this show. I mean you were the
Speaker 1: surprise of the season. That's how I started this podcast,
Speaker 1: and it's very true. I think you were the surprise
Speaker 1: of the season because I think you brought something very engaging.
Speaker 1: You know, whether people liked it or loved it or
Speaker 1: hated it or whatever, I still think that you were
Speaker 1: probably the person that were going to remember from this
Speaker 1: series the most. Anyway, everyone's joined the podcast and ask
Speaker 1: these top five questions. I call them the need to
Speaker 1: know questions. Are you ready to answer these questions?
Speaker 4: I have never been more ready in my life. Ben,
Speaker 4: Please brilliant.
Speaker 1: You don't have to go into too much detail either
Speaker 1: unless you want to. Sometimes you throw yourself under a
Speaker 1: bus when you try and give more information. But anyway,
Speaker 1: we're ready to go. Who was the nicest contestant in there?
Speaker 2: To me, personally, it'd be a tug of war between
Speaker 2: Megan and brook j.
Speaker 1: Who was the biggest villain?
Speaker 4: Oh right?
Speaker 1: Who was the messiest person to live with?
Speaker 4: Probably me.
Speaker 2: I've got this really bad habit of leaving floss around
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 4: I've always flushing my teeth, so it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 4: I know you've.
Speaker 2: Got to have a red flag in there somewhere, and
Speaker 2: that's mine.
Speaker 1: I was interviewing someone last year on a different reality
Speaker 1: show and I was talking similar category and they, well,
Speaker 1: they really hated this one girl that they're on the
Speaker 1: show with because she kept picking off her fingernails and
Speaker 1: leaving them on the kitchen table, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's disgusting, Like that would bother.
Speaker 2: No, that's a level two when I say leave them everywhere,
Speaker 2: like leaving it around the bathroom near my bed, like
Speaker 2: it's still in my space.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't end up in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna start to think of you less. Who was
Speaker 1: the funniest person in there?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Christ I probably laughed the most with Kiaren and Conrad.
Speaker 2: We had like a little chef's bought chef kiss boys
Speaker 2: room and we laughed a lot.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of laughing.
Speaker 1: What's a chef's kiss?
Speaker 4: So we kind of had this. They don't really show it.
Speaker 2: They showed it once kind of, but like kind of
Speaker 2: this little side alliance of the three of us in
Speaker 2: the boys room, and it was kind of like the
Speaker 2: Chef's Kiss allions where with chef kiss after every time
Speaker 2: one of us would win.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that sounds sounds quite interesting. I'll have
Speaker 1: to ask you about that at another time after some drinks.
Speaker 5: What ye want?
Speaker 1: Who did you want to win? Like you not? What
Speaker 1: do you know now? But like as you left the competition,
Speaker 1: who did you want to win?
Speaker 4: Brook J?
Speaker 2: Me and brook J became best mates the day from
Speaker 2: day one, and it wasn't really showing that me and
Speaker 2: her were each other's number one right or die from
Speaker 2: the start and everything I did, I you know, I look,
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna try my best. I'm still going to
Speaker 2: absolutely try to win. But winning was never in my periphery.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there for the title. But once I started
Speaker 2: doing well, my main objective was not to just get
Speaker 2: myself to the end, but was to get brook J
Speaker 2: to the end, to get her the best.
Speaker 4: Chance of winning.
Speaker 2: When I was really down the first two weeks, she
Speaker 2: was the only one that was there for me the
Speaker 2: entire time. If you want to meet a better person,
Speaker 2: there's no better than brook J. And if anyone truly
Speaker 2: deserves a win and all that money like she honestly
Speaker 2: deserves the world, like what you see on TV is
Speaker 2: just even half as great as she is as a person.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to say thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on the Pond and having a chat about the
Speaker 1: challenge Australia. I think you did a fantastic job and
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you you know, whatever reality
Speaker 1: TV show you turn up on next? Do you know
Speaker 1: what is there any other show that you have on
Speaker 1: your bucket list?
Speaker 2: Look my partners badly for a little bit, he said,
Speaker 2: But I look, I've got a lift. I would love
Speaker 2: to do some Survivor the Mole amazing race, and then
Speaker 2: there's always like mars Chef All Stars would also be
Speaker 2: a dream.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in your audience, mate, so I'll be keen
Speaker 1: to watch. I'll binge watch all of those. I'll watch
Speaker 1: them all.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ben, It's been such a pleasure
Speaker 2: meeting you, and I loved you on your show, so
Speaker 2: the feeling is mutual.
Speaker 1: Right, we're having a romance? Is it a gay mance?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. We'll work it out.
Speaker 1: What an amazing opportunity to sit down with Connor, who
Speaker 1: you know definitely stirred up some trouble and made a
Speaker 1: name for himself on The Challenge Australia for its first season.
Speaker 1: Definitely some interesting insights from him about the TV Villain
Speaker 1: edit and stick around now for Conrad as we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about breakups with Abbie Chatfield and how he
Speaker 1: managed to go with the Challenge Australia. I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed the chat. Hi, Conrad, congratulations on surviving the Challenge Australia.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much. I mean, it would
Speaker 3: have been nice to have won it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: came out alive, which is great.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't necessarily know if your opponent last night
Speaker 1: came out alive. I'm still we'll have to get that
Speaker 1: in the news in the next couple of days. But
Speaker 1: he looked pretty destroyed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked him up and sort of dropped Troy
Speaker 3: on his head and there was a moment where I
Speaker 3: was kind of like, this is quite serious. Is paralyzing
Speaker 3: someone worth one hundred thousand dollars? And yeah, afterwards he
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, he should have just done it, man,
Speaker 3: And I was.
Speaker 1: Like, I couldn't believe what I was watching, if I'm honest,
Speaker 1: like I was watching it and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is more brutal than anything I've ever seen before. But
Speaker 1: I just I don't know it. It's still made great television, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: It was very full on. Troy's a good sport.
Speaker 3: He lives and breathes the show, so he just wanted
Speaker 3: wanted me to go hard. And not hold back, and
Speaker 3: he did the same and it was quite fronting, I
Speaker 3: guess watching it back.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I just want you to note that I'm actually
Speaker 1: really excited to talk to you today because you are
Speaker 1: my celebrity crush. I'm so bizarre because like, I'm not
Speaker 1: a weirdo by the way, so I'm not going to
Speaker 1: follow you around or make it awkward for you. But
Speaker 1: I loved you on that season of The Bachelorette. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I just thought that you were one
Speaker 1: of the most handsome people I've ever seen on that show,
Speaker 1: and I loved your journey on that show. So it's
Speaker 1: quite surreal to thank.
Speaker 3: You so much. Thank you so much. It's so nice.
Speaker 3: It's always that's so nice of you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, now the awkwardness is out of the way,
Speaker 1: or it's just starting.
Speaker 5: Not at all, not at all? Right up, look at you.
Speaker 5: Put a big smile on my face. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. It's a good way to start
Speaker 1: the morning. Do you think that the people left in
Speaker 1: the competition are now the strongest players? Like, do you
Speaker 1: think that the challenge the way that it's formatted, means
Speaker 1: that we get left with the people who probably can
Speaker 1: endure the most or you know, what do you think
Speaker 1: about what it says about the people still left?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think going into it, I guess I
Speaker 3: was probably a little bit naive, even though I'd watched
Speaker 3: a lot of the US seasons.
Speaker 5: I thought it was going to be a lot to
Speaker 5: do with the physical.
Speaker 3: Aspect and the puzzles and braying sort of games, you know,
Speaker 3: But a huge part is also the social side of it,
Speaker 3: the social game you have to play within the house.
Speaker 3: So I think what you have left are the strongest
Speaker 3: players on all of those levels. You know, You've got
Speaker 3: people that are physically strong, like Kiki, she was getting
Speaker 3: courtizone shots in her ass every second challenge just to
Speaker 3: keep walking, you know. And Troy obviously winning four daily
Speaker 3: challenges whether it be physical or puzzle. He's amazing too,
Speaker 3: and kind of an amazing competitor, but also socially played
Speaker 3: a great game.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you have the strongest competitors left
Speaker 5: in there. For sure.
Speaker 1: I still thought there has to be some luck about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you've got the algorithm relying on pairing
Speaker 1: people up, and the interesting thing about the competition was
Speaker 1: one person would always have a big target on their back,
Speaker 1: which means that it would gazump the other person that
Speaker 1: they were paired with, which would really have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the strength. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just a very unfair pairing at times.
Speaker 3: None of us expected that or knew that was going
Speaker 3: to be a part of this, and it did definitely
Speaker 3: play into it. But I think again, if you have
Speaker 3: the social side of it, you've got alliances. As long
Speaker 3: as you don't lose, you know, you can still sort
Speaker 3: of save yourself. But yeah, you are right. I was
Speaker 3: very lucky to have avoided anything right until I guess
Speaker 3: last night. But sometimes you were unlucky if you were
Speaker 3: partnered with a person that everybody really wanted to get
Speaker 3: out for sure.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you know, like we've seen you on another
Speaker 1: reality show, so we kind of felt like we know you.
Speaker 1: And to me, you didn't seem as happy as when
Speaker 1: we first met you on the Bachelorette. You know, you
Speaker 1: didn't seem like, you didn't seem like yourself. What was
Speaker 1: going on for you? Was that a part of your
Speaker 1: strategy to kind of fly under the radar? Were you
Speaker 1: a little under the weather? Why were you a little
Speaker 1: bit sort of downplayed this time around.
Speaker 3: I I was trying to sort of fly under the radar.
Speaker 3: I didn't really want to stand out as a big
Speaker 3: competitor in the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'd also recently been through a breakup, so that always
Speaker 3: plays into things. When you're in an environment where you're
Speaker 3: sort of separated from your support network or your friends
Speaker 3: and family, and then you obviously got people that are
Speaker 3: trying to break you down. I definitely think that affected me,
Speaker 3: you know, halfway through it, I had to have a
Speaker 3: little bit of a mental health sort of check. I
Speaker 3: did some counseling because it was it was a lot
Speaker 3: like it's a I think they filmed so much. You know,
Speaker 3: they're filming twenty four to seven to put together a
Speaker 3: forty minute episode. A lot of the stuff doesn't make
Speaker 3: it there because they have to show the beat of
Speaker 3: the challenges and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: So it was quite a hard time for me in there.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I guess even me watching it back in
Speaker 3: some of my interviews, I did feel a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: I felt like I was quite flat or came across differently,
Speaker 3: but yeah, all good now now of the house.
Speaker 1: I also thought, you know, there was so much interest
Speaker 1: in you because you'd be going out with someone, you know,
Speaker 1: who was of a high profile, being Abby Chatfield for
Speaker 1: people who may not know listening to the podcast, but
Speaker 1: you know, I assumed that because there was so much
Speaker 1: interest from the general public to find out a little
Speaker 1: bit more about that relationship or what happened in that relationship.
Speaker 1: I can imagine some of the contestants in there would
Speaker 1: have also been asking you a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: it was that hard and did you talk to them
Speaker 1: about it or were you like this is off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I didn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm being respectful of both you know, her
Speaker 3: and my own my own privacy. It's hard enough to
Speaker 3: sort of, I guess, be in the public eye and
Speaker 3: then have every part of your relationships dissected. So I
Speaker 3: didn't talk about it, and you know, I don't think
Speaker 3: myself or her or anyone anything in that respect.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: So breakups happened, it was amicable, nothing, I guess. The
Speaker 3: more annoying thing about the situation is nothing bad happened
Speaker 3: that people who are trying to find something and you
Speaker 3: know that was that was it.
Speaker 1: The thing for me was just that I was wondering,
Speaker 1: this had to be like a decision not to reveal
Speaker 1: the breakup straight away and let you go off and
Speaker 1: do the challenge Australia. Was that a conscious decision that
Speaker 1: the two of you had made to not sort of
Speaker 1: revealed to the public that you guys had separated and
Speaker 1: the reason why that's yeah, that was yeah, sorry goo, No, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess that was something we spoke about. It's something
Speaker 3: I put forward, and in hindsight, I probably should We
Speaker 3: should have spoken about it beforehand, so there wasn't all
Speaker 3: of this crazy, you know, all these articles and speculation
Speaker 3: and rumors and people trying to say it was because
Speaker 3: of open relationships or something happened, or you know, it
Speaker 3: was because of what happened on the show. But I
Speaker 3: think it was just because I wanted to be present
Speaker 3: when we did say it, so I could have an
Speaker 3: opportunity to do what I mean, like, yeah, but I
Speaker 3: didn't come out of come out of the house, and
Speaker 3: there'd just be this thing about it. But that obviously
Speaker 3: got leaked and it happened anyway, so in hindsight I
Speaker 3: probably should have.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the original thing to get I think was the
Speaker 1: hookup with vegan and so people were like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: Conrad's cheated on Abby while they're in there. But you know,
Speaker 1: sources that I knew had told me that you guys
Speaker 1: weren't together. So I didn't think there was that That
Speaker 1: problem was me get frustrated by the fact that she
Speaker 1: might have been looped into a rumor that you guys
Speaker 1: had cheated on you know, someone.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't speak on her behalf obviously, like
Speaker 3: I can't comment on how she felt. But you know,
Speaker 3: she'd also recently been through a breakup that hadn't been
Speaker 3: publicly you.
Speaker 5: Know, put out there. You know, she hadn't spoken about it.
Speaker 3: So I mean, again, we don't need to tell people
Speaker 3: about these things. It's not that we have we owe
Speaker 3: it to people to reveal our private lives.
Speaker 5: I can't really, I can't really say how she feels
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a bizarre thing though. I think you know,
Speaker 1: the way in which we invest with people on television,
Speaker 1: especially with reality TV contestants, there seems to be like
Speaker 1: a sense of ownership, like we're owed something or you know,
Speaker 1: people want to know the intimate details where you don't
Speaker 1: have that expectation on seit of your Big A List.
Speaker 1: You know, actors, do you think there is a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on reality TV contestants to continue to share
Speaker 1: their personal life after they've been on these shows.
Speaker 3: I think it's a decision by the individual, do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, in what path they want to
Speaker 3: take post show.
Speaker 5: And I think some people love it.
Speaker 3: I think some people love to tell everyone what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and they and they want.
Speaker 5: To be in a headline or you know what I mean, and.
Speaker 3: And others, you know, just want to continue on and
Speaker 3: do whatever. So it's interest, Like I do, like telling
Speaker 3: people what I'm getting up to and what's happening.
Speaker 5: But sometimes, you.
Speaker 3: Know, there's there's things that you want to keep private
Speaker 3: because it's it's you know, it's kind of.
Speaker 5: You know, it's intimate, or it's it's personal.
Speaker 1: You know, it's was there awkward moments between you and
Speaker 1: Brooke because as I said to you, I invested in
Speaker 1: that series with brookeret and so then I was like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, this is good casting to put you guys together.
Speaker 1: And I knew that you guys hadn't seen each other
Speaker 1: since that final moment on that show. You know what
Speaker 1: was the tension like when you got together, do we
Speaker 1: able to smooth it over quickly? Or was there anything
Speaker 1: we didn't see?
Speaker 3: Look, she's a great person. She represents you know, important communities,
Speaker 3: and I never really had any bad blood with Brook.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny when you're in that bubble of
Speaker 3: the bachelorette and this person's on a pedestal and it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's everything to get the next rows and stuff.
Speaker 5: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I saw her and I was like, the last time
Speaker 3: I saw you, you were putting me into a limousine
Speaker 3: without a rose and sending me home, you know, And
Speaker 3: at that moment, I was pretty pretty.
Speaker 5: Down about it.
Speaker 3: But there was nothing that had happened between us that
Speaker 3: had made me think there'd be any bad blood.
Speaker 5: And never had anything to worry about, to be honest.
Speaker 3: So when I saw her, it was fine, we're friends.
Speaker 1: It seemed like that's what we wanted to see more of.
Speaker 1: People were like, you know, we saw so much challenge
Speaker 1: and then you know, when the fan base turned up,
Speaker 1: they were like, no, we had a checklist of things
Speaker 1: that we needed to see and that was one of
Speaker 1: them moments we wanted like basically a full sit down
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey special between the two of you, which we
Speaker 1: were robbed from.
Speaker 5: So there's so much going on that.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were a lot of sit down conversations
Speaker 3: and a lot of that stuff did happen.
Speaker 5: So it's out there. We've got to push ten for it,
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we did have good chats and there's nothing
Speaker 3: you know, we wish you to tell to the best.
Speaker 5: Well, I wish her the best. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: guess I can't again speak on her.
Speaker 1: The selection of people that were chosen to be a
Speaker 1: part of the Challenge Australia was widely discussed, you know,
Speaker 1: like which reality TV contescence would be picked, and it
Speaker 1: did sort of seem like they picked the noisiest of personalities,
Speaker 1: were people who had the most amount of interest on
Speaker 1: them coming off the back of the show. Do you
Speaker 1: think that was the right choice to find as many
Speaker 1: noisy reality people still floating around on the zeichast.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I guess it's a good it's a
Speaker 3: good concoction of egos and attitudes and that's what makes
Speaker 3: a good show, right. You want the ones that have
Speaker 3: allowed us out there the most, And there was plenty
Speaker 3: of drama. It worked, It definitely worked.
Speaker 1: I mean, what about the confrontation between you and Ryan,
Speaker 1: Like I was like.
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Ryan Gallagher, and you know,
Speaker 3: I have no interest in sort of trying to repair
Speaker 3: any sort of friendship with him. He made a lot
Speaker 3: of comments that I thought were just disgusting, and he
Speaker 3: was trying to.
Speaker 5: Push my buttons, and you know, and it was for
Speaker 5: no real reason.
Speaker 3: He'd even made comments to me and other people that
Speaker 3: he didn't see me as a competitor in the game
Speaker 3: and he just didn't like me. So it was more
Speaker 3: of a personal thing and the stuff he was saying
Speaker 3: to other people as well. And I'm not proud of
Speaker 3: how I reacted in the end. I'm not conflict driven.
Speaker 3: I don't like confrontation. I don't like bullies. I don't
Speaker 3: like intimidation. And he just really he got to me.
Speaker 3: He was trying to He got to me, and I
Speaker 3: got upset, and I you know, I got confrontational.
Speaker 5: And just the fact that he was sort of promoting,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: That he had no knuckles left in his hands from
Speaker 3: fighting and you know, trying to put me down by
Speaker 3: saying I'm wearing girls clothes, not that there's an issue
Speaker 3: with wearing girls clothes, you know, That's that's what pissed
Speaker 3: me off the most.
Speaker 5: It was like, so what if I am wearing girl's clothes,
Speaker 5: you know, like, what's your issue?
Speaker 3: And then also being like, you've never been in a
Speaker 3: fight in your arm, I'm not out there trying to
Speaker 3: say I'm the toughest person and I'm proud of being
Speaker 3: in fights. So at that point, I really just I
Speaker 3: wanted him to punch me in the face so that
Speaker 3: he could just go, you know, like I just wanted
Speaker 3: him to be instantly.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I was like, you know what, he just
Speaker 5: worked me out, and I was I was over him, and.
Speaker 3: I I would be. There would be no hard feelings
Speaker 3: if I never saw him again.
Speaker 1: But the thing that was that, you know, it kind
Speaker 1: of was after you about the things that most people
Speaker 1: love the most about you, and I could talk for myself,
Speaker 1: like I like the fact that you are a new
Speaker 1: aged male role model in a way, with some of
Speaker 1: the ways in which you've challenged certain norms that have
Speaker 1: been around for such a long time and have handled
Speaker 1: it so well. You know, it was interesting that it
Speaker 1: came after you for things that people admire you for.
Speaker 5: I just don't respect that.
Speaker 3: I mean, if someone wants to wear girls clothes, who cares?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. If I want to be
Speaker 3: if I want to be vulnerable, if I want to.
Speaker 5: Show emotion, I think that's that's strength.
Speaker 3: I think that makes someone stronger to be to be
Speaker 3: vulnerable and speak about their emotions.
Speaker 5: And just because you open a door for a woman.
Speaker 3: Or pull out a chair for it when you sit down,
Speaker 3: doesn't make you a good guy, you know. And that
Speaker 3: was kind of like how He's like, I'm a good
Speaker 3: blow But anyway, so it was, yeah.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: Someone told me that recently and they're like, Ben, you know,
Speaker 1: I often get cornered with people asking me really, you know,
Speaker 1: questions that make me feel uncomfortable, and so you just say, no,
Speaker 1: it is what it is and you just walk away.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, save that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, next time I come across Ryan, it is what
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: And it's what it is. So many of the Bachelor
Speaker 1: contestants are left in the competition at you know, so
Speaker 1: far down the line, and it was interesting talking to Marli.
Speaker 1: Marley was like, you know, maybe if there was more
Speaker 1: Big Brother people in there, or maybe if there was
Speaker 1: more people from certain categories maybe that would have outweighed
Speaker 1: or that might have made it a little bit easier.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was because you're all from the
Speaker 1: same show, or what was the common deniator there? Or
Speaker 1: maybe the Bachelor contestants are the strongest people.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's a social Like I said before,
Speaker 3: it's like that's the social gameplay right from what I'd
Speaker 3: seen in previous challenges in the US. Alliances were a
Speaker 3: big part of it, and so as soon as I
Speaker 3: got in there, I was like, great, there's lots of
Speaker 3: Bachelor people here. And I'm not taking credit for it,
Speaker 3: but I was like, this is a bit of a
Speaker 3: thing we could do.
Speaker 5: You know that definitely helped. Yeah, having more of us.
Speaker 3: There, but saying that, you know, you've got a Ninja Warrior,
Speaker 3: you've got a Master Chef, and you've got a person
Speaker 3: from the Survivor, so.
Speaker 1: They're not too too bad.
Speaker 5: There's still a good mix. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone who's joined the podcast, I've asked them these
Speaker 1: sort of five knee to no questions which you can
Speaker 1: do your best to duck and weave through. You can't
Speaker 1: say it is what it is to any of the
Speaker 1: answers to these, So are you ready to go?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Already. The first question is who was the nicest contestant
Speaker 1: in there?
Speaker 5: The nicest contestant in the Marley fair play?
Speaker 1: A lot of people have said Mary, actually, I think
Speaker 1: it's now up to maybe three or four. He didn't
Speaker 1: pick himself, which is good, right, No, I can't now,
Speaker 1: I can't remember who Mary said. Actually Marley might have
Speaker 1: said you, actually, I know one or two people did.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's great. If I don't have the answers,
Speaker 1: probably don't mislead you. Who was the biggest villain in there?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people said Ryan, who was the who is the
Speaker 1: messiest person to live with?
Speaker 5: Messiest person to live with? A guy?
Speaker 3: That would have had to have been like Johnny Ryan
Speaker 3: or Grant someone in that room, for sure.
Speaker 1: I just had that. The producers thought that room smelt
Speaker 1: really bad, kept asking them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, constantly trying to clean it up, and they had
Speaker 3: this issue with doing it.
Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 3: It's just like you just got to put your stuff
Speaker 3: in your suitcase and make it look tidy.
Speaker 1: But why do you want to live in the filth?
Speaker 1: Who was the girl? There was a girl in there
Speaker 1: as well, wasn't.
Speaker 5: There Jessica Brody before she got eliminated. Jessica Brody was
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 3: And then it was Emily Seabomb moved in there with
Speaker 3: Sugarneats as well, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was Sugar. Sugar said to me that
Speaker 1: she had O c D and she just wanted to
Speaker 1: clean up and she wanted them to look after themselves
Speaker 1: stopping a pig.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sugar was a very structured routine driven.
Speaker 3: You know, she's a boxer, so I can imagine it
Speaker 3: was doing her head in.
Speaker 1: Who would you say was the funniest person to live
Speaker 1: in there with.
Speaker 5: The funniest person to live in there with?
Speaker 3: Johnny is really funny Johnny Easter and Brittany Hockley actually
Speaker 3: is quite funny in the like a sucker a mom
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 1: Have you been listening to her with Kyle on the
Speaker 1: Kyle and Jack Your Show?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I did, And there's summer
Speaker 3: show as well with Is that who she is?
Speaker 1: Is that who you?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 1: That your friend? You're listening to that? Going? That sounds
Speaker 1: like her?
Speaker 5: She's great she's a powerhouse. She just won.
Speaker 3: Didn't she win the Best Podcast Award or something like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she's she's great.
Speaker 1: She's just killing it. I wasn't nominated, so just you know,
Speaker 1: feel good about saying yes to doing this podcast. You
Speaker 1: have to nominate yourself though.
Speaker 5: That was the problem with did you want to do it?
Speaker 1: They asked me to fill out the application to do it,
Speaker 1: and I just was like I started to do it
Speaker 1: and it felt so uncomfortable, like I don't.
Speaker 5: Know, really, well, next time, next time doing it?
Speaker 1: I know, I know because then I looked at the
Speaker 1: category of people. Anyway, we're going off on a tangent.
Speaker 5: No one wants to.
Speaker 1: Who do you want to win? You know where just
Speaker 1: before the finale you may no more. So let's just
Speaker 1: put that aside and just maybe look at it from
Speaker 1: the perspective of when you left the competition, who did
Speaker 1: you want to win?
Speaker 3: Okay, So anyone in my lines I'd love to see win.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Brittany or Keiky win. They're great girls.
Speaker 3: Kieran I have a deal with, so you know, if
Speaker 3: Kieran wins, I.
Speaker 5: Get a little gift back on the side. I don't
Speaker 5: know if I'm meant to talk about that. But we
Speaker 5: had a.
Speaker 3: Deal, and obviously I wouldn't mind if Troy won because
Speaker 3: I lost to Troy in my elimination, So it would
Speaker 3: kind of make me feel better if the winner of
Speaker 3: the whole thing was the one that knocked.
Speaker 5: Me out, you know. So yeah, there you go. That's
Speaker 5: very broad anyone, but brook Day and gonna.
Speaker 1: Okay, no offense to those people. Are you going to
Speaker 1: say no offense at all?
Speaker 5: They're not in my line.
Speaker 1: You could send Troy a box of band Aids for Christmas,
Speaker 1: just as a joke, I reckon, just as a joke.
Speaker 5: Just yeah, yeah, that would be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're okay mate. Anyway, Look, you did a fantastic
Speaker 1: job on the show, and I really appreciate coming on
Speaker 1: the podcast. I look forward to continuing to like all
Speaker 1: your photos on Instagram and watching you on the next
Speaker 1: show that you turn up on a healthy level of
Speaker 1: st