WEBVTT - The Influencer Wedding of the Year 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.360 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.039 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.680 Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.400 and Matt Zakowski are officially husband and wife, and the 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.960 privacy debate surrounding Liam Payne's funeral. But first, there's an 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.360 influencer story that would normally be headlining our show, but 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.800 due to legal reasons, we have to be careful about 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.240 how we discuss it. Yeah, so what we can say 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:36.440 is a Queensland influencer prolific on TikTok, is being investigated 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.080 for child harm against her toddler. It's been confirmed that 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.239 the one year old was placed in foster care on 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.800 the twenty first of October after medical staff reported serious concerns. Now, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.720 the medical staff raised the alarm, suspecting it could be 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.920 a case of Munchausen's syndrome by proxy, which is a 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.920 psychological disorder in which a caregiver allegedly abuses a child 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.000 and presents them as sick. Now, Queensland Police have released 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.800 statement saying that they have taken action to protect the 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.000 child and have commenced an investigation. Their statement continued, saying 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.160 as this is an active investigation, it would be inappropriate 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.640 to provide further comment. At a press conference, South Brisbane 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.520 District Chief Superintendent Andrew Palotto described the investigation as protracted 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.440 and complicated, adding it will take a bit of time, 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.959 but I can assure you the child is safe whilst 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.600 the investigation is ongoing. Since the news broke, the family's 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.840 social media accounts have been taken down. It's important to 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.880 note the charges are yet to be laid. Despite all 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.480 of this, the influencer in question has broken her silence. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.800 Talking to nine News, she said it's so unfair and 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.480 it's getting addressed at the moment without the proper counsel. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.240 When quin's further, she said, I can't speak too much. 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.440 I will get my lawyer to contact you. I do 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.840 really appreciate the call. The reporter asked then if she 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.559 had harmed her daughter, to which she replied, I can't 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.600 talk to you. I've said this is a matter that 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.320 cannot be spoken on, which is strange because why take 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.080 the phone call in the first place. And I know 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.160 a lot of people are going to be disappointed that 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.040 we're not talking about this story in depth because there's 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.360 a lot of people on TikTok talking about it and 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.160 naming the family. However, as this woman has yet to 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.760 be charged, we just can't name her. And also, this 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.639 story is really complicated because the toddler has been put 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.040 into foster care and there are issues around identifying her. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.600 This story really reminds me of the Ruby Frankie case 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.240 in the US, so she was an influencer who was 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.520 charged with child abuse and a lot of her followers 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.640 were actually picking up on the signs that things were 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.000 not normal in the household, and it was a very 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.919 complicated story that played out in court. So I'm interested 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.280 to see what is going to happen in the future 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.040 with this because, as you said, Sophie, it's so complicated 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.480 now that the child has been taken into foster care. Yeah, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.639 and it's going to be one that the mainstream media 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.520 will cover in depth. They've already shown their interest in 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.560 the story because they're reporting on it despite being able 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.760 to actually name this family. And what's interesting is the 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.880 fact that the mother involved in this story is actually 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.480 actively talking to the media, which I find odd because 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.280 you've explained that the media are unable to name her 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.000 at the moment. So if I was her, I'd be 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.720 staying quiet. I feel like it's going to be a 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.760 really messy one because this is an influencer family involved. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.680 There's already a lot of influencer watchdog accounts who are 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.040 naming the family and also allowing people to comment on 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.239 the news and on Saturday Morning, Influences in the Wild 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:26.600 wrongly names Sophia Beg and Jack Golding as the influencers involved. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.440 This post was online for at least four hours and 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.520 it is just blatantly wrong. I mean, Sophia Beg doesn't 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.200 even have any children. That's the US side, isn't it Yea, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.800 So they must have got completely confused about the story. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.280 They got their wires really crossed, and this is a 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.680 blatant act of defamation. Surely Sophia Beg's legal team have 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.000 already gotten to this. We know they were very proactive 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.000 in sending a legal threat to those influencers who were 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.320 set to release information about her and a friendship breakdown. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.000 And their mum's a lawyer as well. Well. These stories 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.520 highlight how there are so many legalities around sort of 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.320 citis and reporting because a lot of these people who 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.720 run these pages, they are not journalists. They don't understand 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.200 the laws and they're really opening themselves up to a 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.360 lot of trouble because the reality is it's not until 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.280 this couple is charged that they are able to be 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.880 legally named, as well as the complexities surrounding the foster 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:17.559 situation as well. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.640 I just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.560 it is actually a serious thing, and like, I hope 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:29.880 you don't make any mistakes. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.279 After months of breakup rumors and cheating allegations, Tammy Hembro 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.640 and Matzakowski have defied the odds, tying them not in 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.479 Byron Bay over the weekend. Controversially, The Daily Mail were 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.000 the first published photos of the newly married couple allegedly 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.359 flying a drone over the ceremony. Now, Sophie, it's not 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.839 totally surprising that the paparazzi were able to track down 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:56.840 this wedding, considering Sophia Beg accidentally leaked the invite months ago. Yeah, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.039 that's right. She really did help out The Daily Mail 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.400 in this case because she shared a close up photo 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.720 of Tammy and Matt's wedding invite in one of her 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.279 vlogs back in May, and I think she was just 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.600 so overwhelmed and excited to be invited that she forgot 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.440 about what a big deal this wedding was. Well, it 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.279 seems like she's been uninvited because she was nowhere to 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.440 be seen at this wedding. Well, I'm not surprised. I mean, 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.480 they were talking about cutting numbers, and clearly, if you're 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.839 thinking about the first person to go, it's the person 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.159 who's made the lead up to the wedding difficult for you, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.440 because we know matt was being brutal about cutting the 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.240 partners of some of his really close friends. So surely, yeah, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.120 Sophia Beg was the first to get a line through. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.160 How did Tammy and Sophia even know each other? I 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.760 assume through an influencer trip. I mean there's quite an 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.080 age gap between them. Sophia instead went to a twenty 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.400 first birthday party, and it seemed like she wanted her 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.880 followers to know that she was there and not at 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.000 the wedding. Yeah. Well, there were a lot of influencers 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.360 snapped arriving at this wedding, So Ruby Tuesday, Matthews was there. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.159 She was with her partner Shannon Dodd, Lily Brown, and 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.840 Jack Kenny as well as m Davies who actually ignored 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.400 the invite request not to bring children because her daughter 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.880 Iland was there, because that's something else we found. So 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.760 once Sophia beg leaked or accidentally leaked the invite, it 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.599 then led super Sloose to locate the online wedding invite, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.560 and basically people saw that children weren't allowed except her 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.360 own children. And also everyone was quite shocked to hear 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.080 that she was having a wishing well. I was on 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.600 the other side of it though, because I think it's 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.800 fair enough to ask for money at your wedding well. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.479 Tammy and Matt spoke recently about the wishing well on 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.000 his podcast and they were saying that there was no 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.760 way that they expected guests to give them two thousand dollars. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.919 They didn't know where that figure was because that was 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.680 a rumor that was on influencer updates. I mean, Tammy 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.320 has before said that that's absolutely ridiculous and that she 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.400 was getting a lot of requests with people saying what 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.279 do you want for your wedding, and it was easier 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.920 to just say, let's do a wishing well. Yeah, back 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.839 to the guests. Anna macavoy, who's Matt's co host on 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.720 his podcast. She attracted a lot of attention for the 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.960 dress that she chose to wear because it did have 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.320 a very large slit. It was quite revealing. It was 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.600 a blue gown. She was told that she was stealing 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.320 Tammy Hembro's thunder, which is quite ironic because when Anna 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.839 got married earlier in the year, Tammy was accused of 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.360 stealing her thumber. But it wasn't about what Tammy was wearing. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.240 It was about her star power and that she was 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.280 pulling attention away by just attending the wedding. I could 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.480 have seen this headline coming a mile away. There was 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.480 always going to be one guest that was accused of 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.320 stealing the attention from Tammy. It happens at every single 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.000 influence a wedding. I didn't think there was anything wrong 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.480 with anastrous. I thought she looked stunning. I didn't think 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.679 it looked that different to what other people were wearing. 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.000 It's not like she wropped up in a white or 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.440 shall I say, pink dress. Because Tammy's dress was incredible. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.040 She is getting a lot of attention for the dress 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.720 she wore down the aisle. If I had been told 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.280 prior to seeing the photo that Tammy wore a pink dress, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.480 I would have thought, ooh, how hideous, But I loved it. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.960 She looked absolutely stunning. She looked the best I've ever 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.560 seen her look. I do wonder if the Daily Mail, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.960 because they were the first ones to release these photos. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.600 I wonder if they turned up the saturation because her 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.200 dress looked very pink and I don't think I think 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.320 it was that pink in real life. Because her tan 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.720 also got a lot of comments, people were saying she 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.360 looked very orange. Yeah. Well, the day after the wedding, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.480 Tammy posted a photo of her in Matt's hands with 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.600 their wedding rings on it, and she didn't look that 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.760 orange in that photo. There's a few recovery photos floating 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.000 around the place of Tammy, and she definitely wasn't as 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.160 orange as she appeed in that photo. As well. I 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.320 saw Anna macavoy posted some recovery photos and it was 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.520 very reminiscent of the photos taken prior to her wedding. Yeah, 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.880 they had one where they had all of their rings 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.120 in together. It was like who was comparing whose wedding bands? 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.800 Photo of each of the couple. But I wasn't sure. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.440 What is the etiquette around posting recovery photos? Is it 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:39.000 all good? 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:39.400 Look? 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.080 I think that everyone's got the green light to do 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.160 the recovery photos because so many people are doing it. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.640 I think that there must be a lot of slagging 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.320 off about the Daily Mail happening, and so people are like, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.120 oh my god, I better not post a photo of 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.840 any of her wedding outfits. Is quite interesting because Isabelle Laws, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.880 who is the general manager of Tammy's active where brown SASKI. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.040 She ended up commenting under one influencer updates posts where 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.040 she shared the photo, and she wrote so disrespectful that 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.640 the Daily Mail had an illegal drone fly over the 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:11.160 ceremony and leak the entire thing. How this is supported 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.840 is absolutely beyond me. It's crazy that Isabelle actually took 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.760 time out of the wedding to share that comment. But 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.240 are we really that surprised This wedding has been touted 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.680 as the influencer wedding of the year. Matt and Tammy 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.839 have been talking about it all over their social feeds, 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.880 all over their podcasts. It's not that surprising that The 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.440 Daily Mail would try and get that first shot. Tammy 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.319 and Matt should have done what Laura Burn and Maddy 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.920 Jay did because Laura and Maddie noticed that a paparazzo 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.200 had got into their wedding and they thought, fuck it, 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.920 We're not going to let them get the scoop. So 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.040 they ended up posting a photo from their wedding straight away. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.200 The Daily Mail may have beat them to it, but 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.400 they could have steered some of that attention over to 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.640 their own way. Cour This is what makes me think 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.200 that they have a deal with Vogue. We recently saw 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.120 podcaster Nicki Westcott get a deal with them, and she 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.200 waited several days to share her wedding photos. At the 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.000 time of recording, we haven't seen a wedding photo from 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.719 Tammy or Matt, so I wouldn't be surprised if we're 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.360 going to see one in a couple of days time. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.920 A huge spread about their wedding. Well, this wedding looked 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.280 like it belonged in Vogue, and there was a lot 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.920 of anticipation because we know that Tammy did a deal 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.200 with Vera Wang for the wedding dress. A couple of 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.800 super slous are saying that this dress isn't a custom 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:19.960 gown by Vera Wang that it is one off the 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.360 rack and that's on the website currently. It does come 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.320 in pink and ivory because people were saying that they've 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.080 fallen in love with this dress, they want to get 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.000 it for their weddings. And for those who haven't seen it, 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.280 it's strapless. It had a very tight corset bodice, and 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.880 it had this very elaborateal train with a long ivory veil. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.920 There was some discussion about her mixing ivory and pink, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.319 but overall everyone loved the dress. Is it one of 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.120 those dresses though, that only really looks good on Tammy Hembro, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.120 Like you know, like when you go when you want 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.960 to get a new haircut and then you realize, oh, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.120 it's not going to look as cool their blonde bob. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.600 She's definitely got the figure for it. A lot of 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.680 listeners said that she looked straight out of the Barbie 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.719 movie and that she's never looked better. And I love 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.760 that she continued the theme by having a large pink marquee, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.040 which was pictured behind the ceremony location. We haven't seen 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.960 proper photos of it yet, but that was one of 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.079 the photos that was captured by the drone when I 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.160 saw these leaked photos, it was so clear that Matt 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.200 Zakowski had nothing to do with the planning, Like this 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.320 had Tammy all over it. Yeah, but at the beginning 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:17.920 he said he was going to be a groom zilla 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.200 and he wanted to be at every meeting. But I 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.800 get the vibe that Tammy and her wedding planners just 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.720 went off separately. I saw some TikTok where Tammy was 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.880 saying that Matt would be in these zoom meetings and 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.840 just say really stupid things. Yeah, just like, honey, could 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.840 you just shut up people in saying that. I wonder 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.120 if he had anything to do with the ceremony setup, 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.760 because all people could focus on once those drone images 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.920 were released. So for those who haven't seen the photos, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.360 Tammy and Matt were at the front on this beautiful 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.080 pair of steps, and then there was this hedge and 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.679 a pool, and the guests were seated around the pool 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.560 behind the hedge. So people were saying, could they even 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.040 see what was going on? It was quite interesting because 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.560 where they got married is this chateau, which is an 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.880 airbea be It cost seven thousand dollars a night to 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.040 stay there. But on the website, it doesn't describe itself 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.840 as a wedding venue in saying that though Pat Cummens 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.920 recently got married there and Matt Damon has previously stayed 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.599 there in the past. But it makes me think maybe 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.840 that area has never been set up for a wedding before, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:21.720 because sometimes wedding planners will possibly close off the pool area, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.679 which would have made a lot more sense because they 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.520 then could have had the seats on top and people 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.880 actually facing the front. Well, I want to know how 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.400 Tammy actually walked down that aisle, because there's a photo 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.520 of her arriving at that point and she's standing directly 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.280 in front of the pool. So did they have something 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.360 that she could walk across the pool? Was there like 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.680 a person? I think she must have just chosen one 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.280 side to walk down. But the other bizarre thing about 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.000 this seating plan was that the guests weren't even facing 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.640 Tammy and Matt. They were actually facing each other, which 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.080 would have been super awkward. They were looking over the 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.920 pool and a lot of people were saying, God, their 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.679 next must have been saw because they were literally craning 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.360 to get a glimpse of the couple, and also because 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.280 they were seat quite low down because Tammy and Matt 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.160 they were up several steps and they were in front 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.320 of the chateau. People were saying, could they even see 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.440 them past the hedges? 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:09.000 Yeah. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.640 And it was weird because people noticed that Matt's groomsmen 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.480 were standing on concrete, whereas Tammy's bridesmaids were standing on grass, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.160 so their high heels were likely sinking into so a 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.319 lot of people saying it must have been Tammy's good side, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.000 because it's like, fuck it, I'm going to be on 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.160 my good side. They can sink into the grass. We 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.960 picked the bridesmaid dresses. I want to point out they 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.320 were black, strapless dresses, and I feel like black is 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.840 this season's color. Well, Amy Weddings, you wanted to do 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.040 black originally I was thinking about it, but I didn't 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.160 really think it was a summer color. I felt like 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.600 it was you know, it's a bit too hot to 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.240 be wearing black. What was also quite strange about this 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.000 setup is that around the pool area there was a fence, 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.040 so once Tammy had walked down the aisle, they closed 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.240 the pool gate, so they basically closed all of the 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.000 guests out of that area and all of the photographers 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.800 and videographers stood at the gate so they were getting 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.400 the best front on view of the ceremony. It seemed 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.360 like it was all about appearances and all about the photos, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.760 not necessarily making it feel like an intimate ceremony. We 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.440 fair like most weddings, we noticed this is not like 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.520 most weddings. Most weddings you have the guests as close 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.560 as possible so they can actually be a part of it. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.160 And I think what was quite sad is that Tammy's 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.600 kids were involved in the wedding. So her son Wolf 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.680 was a page boy, and her daughters Posey and Saskia 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.440 were flower girls, and they were in the closed off 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.200 Paul area. They weren't even up the front with the bridesmaids. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.840 And guessing Matt Paul wasn't at this wedding because we 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.200 do know that they're very amicable. They seem to be 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.640 on good terms now, but I didn't see any photos 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.080 of him. Look, you don't have your ex fiance at 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.920 your wedding. Well, the Daily Mail's drone shot showed just 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.760 how exclusive the wedding was. There weren't that many people. Yeah, 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.800 Tammy and Matt said on their podcast that they were 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.280 having one hundred and thirteen people. I think that's what's 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.360 the number. Well, one person who was missing from the 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.120 ceremony was Tammy's dad, and this actually sparked a lot 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.600 of rumors about people saying, oh, maybe he didn't approve 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.480 of her marrying Matt. But sadly, it turned out that 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.920 he actually injured himself before the ceremony, and if you 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.280 can believe it, he injured himself while he was at 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.560 the hairdresser. So if I was Tammy, I would have 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.000 been so mad because her dad left his haircut to 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.480 the day of the wedding and then something snapped in 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.240 his leg when he was at the hairdresser. He ended 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.760 up having to go to hospital and arrived at the 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:22.080 reception on crutches. I wish she had her reality show 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.680 because that just sounds like one of those plots in it, 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.200 Like it doesn't even sound real. Yeah, I'm surprised that 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.640 they didn't try and push the ceremony back a little bit. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.440 But I suppose this wedding is a massive event, and 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.080 when it comes to weddings, yes, you can probably push 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.880 it by half an hour. But I suppose maybe her 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.760 dad was stuck in emergency or something. Okay, you mentioned 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.400 earlier how Tammy had shared a photo of her wedding 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.440 rings on Instagram, But all I could notice in that 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.600 photo was her new tattoo, which was the date of 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.320 the wedding. Well, I was wondering when she actually got 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.920 it done, because in the week leading into the wedding, 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.440 Matt ramped up the wedding spond Colm and he shared 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.480 back to back sponsored reales. One of them was promoting 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.680 a numbing cream and the last time he spooked this brand, 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.880 he was using it to remove his ex girlfriend's name 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.440 from his bum. This time around, he was using it 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.160 to get a tattoo dedicated to the wedding. So he 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.360 ended up getting Always and Forever tattooed on him and 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.200 it was written in Tammy's handwriting. Side note, she has 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.880 the most beautiful handwriting. So I'm wondering if Tammy got 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.040 her tattoo then well, there's other speculation that maybe they 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.520 had a tattoo artist at the ceremony because a lot 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.480 of people are now doing that. So basically, you go 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.560 and sign your wedding certificate and then you go and 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.960 get your tattoo of the date. It's very on brand 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.120 for Tammy. To have a tattoo artist at her wedding. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.360 She loves getting tattoos. I recently was listening to Happy 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.640 Hour with Lucy and Nikki and they were talking about 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.720 a number of their jagged parties that they had, where 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.920 Tammy Hambro would just be like, yep, We'm gonna get 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.680 that random dragon. Well, how many tattoos do Matt and 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.760 Tammy have dedicated to each other. It's getting ridiculous now. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.040 I am very much looking forward to when the official 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.640 photos get released. When do you guys think it will 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.040 be or whenever Vogue drops them? Actually, probably just night 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.520 that we're recording, because it always seems to happen. So 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.480 if you have seen those photos, this has been pre 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.200 recorded on Monday after we reckon. Tammy's going to jump 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.960 on a podcast with Matt as well, because I think 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.760 that he is really into monetizing the wedding situation and 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.119 also boosting his numbers. Oh no, so he's not interested 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.240 in that at all. Well mean, everyone else and outspoken 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.600 plus listeners will understand that little snide comment because we 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.520 did go into more detail. Kate and I had a 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.800 bit of a rant on Friday's Subscribe episode about Matt 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.679 who He lashed out at us a little bit in 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.639 his comment section. Yeah, he accused Outspoken amongst other podcasts 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.919 for using him and Tammy to make a quick dollar, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.080 which anyway, we rant about it on that episode. You 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:44.840 can listen there. Well, I want to know how much 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.600 Number is paying Matt for his wedding spon con I 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.520 hope a lot, because he absolutely got slammed in the comments. 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.480 It was quite hilarious. Did you guys see the other 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.000 real where he was promoting ox he shred. He said 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.880 that he was doing a wet dread. I actually need 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.120 a throwed it for full effect. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.440 The only thing that I've been stressed about leading into 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.840 my wedding is my web shred. No jokes aside. I've 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.119 been using oxy tread now for a couple of months. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.200 I knew this would be my go to when trying 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.879 to lean up for the big day. I first tried 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.720 it when I saw it at seven eleven one time, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.359 and since then it's been my go to drink. It 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.239 contains clean caffeine, so it gives me no jitters and 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.440 no crash, and it enhances my mood. 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.880 I feel like he needed to have an oxy shred 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:26.760 before he did that voice over. It was very flat. 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.280 How does he have a podcast? I don't understand because 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.280 he just sounds bored and everything that he reads it. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.080