1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. 5 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: First of all, Welcome to Fearlessly Failing. I am mat Sofo. 6 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: It has been a minute since I've been on this podcast. 7 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Potentially what four months? Three months? I'm not sure. We 8 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: will have to go back and double check that. But 9 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: today's episode is our birthday episode. So every year we 10 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: do a little together where we get to interview each 11 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: other and ask all the tough questions and all the 12 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: pressing questions we have of each other. This year, unfortunately, 13 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: we are a part. Lola is in La and I 14 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: am in Byron, So let's bring Lola in Lola. Welcome 15 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: to your own podcast. 16 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: Ya Looha. Hello? 17 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Did you like waye intro. 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Was very normalist? 19 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: Sure? 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it. 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: I was trying to be funny. I didn't think it 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: was that funny. 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, I was trying not to laugh so that I 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't give you sound and screw up your sound. That 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: was what I was trying to do. 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: So I was just smiling at you with life, I know. 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: But I was looking at your face while I was 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: doing it, and I was like, I think I'm going 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: to crack up laughing. I kept getting distracted. 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: Oh that would have been fine. 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Distracted by your beauty. How are you? How are you 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: feeling today? 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: Ah? I think I was saying this too by the 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: time this pod comes out. I mean, I hope I 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: know about my flights, but like I think I was 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: saying to you, like it's today, I'm feeling like a 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: little bit stress axious because I've had this will be 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: my fourth flight now booked. I've been bumped off all 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the others. It's just getting a little bit stressful because 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm stressful. Yeah, I don't know, 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: like how quickly I'm going to go, if I'm going 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: to go. It's just all a little bit hard to 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: get back into Australia and whatnot. But I'm sure it'll 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: work out. And it's a totally beautiful lesson in resilience 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and strength. 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: And accepting accepting things we can't change and have to 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: having to be adaptable. 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're great at that. You're really good at like 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: being okay with uncertainty. I can definitely tell you uncertainty 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: is not my strong like I can be strong, but 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't love this. It's like, give me a plan, 53 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: Like tell me what my plan is, and I can 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: work with that. But like this like limbo feeling is 55 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: probably one of the most confronting feelings for me for sure. 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Totally. I think that I don't think I mean, no 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: one likes uncertainty. I don't like it. I think I 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: just learn have learned to, Yeah, probably just roll with 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: it a little bit more, you know, but also the 60 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: fact that, like you know, I still need to work. 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 2: We still life still needs to go on during uncertainty, 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: so we can't just you know, crumble and not and 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: die basically No. 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: And I think like when you look back with perspective, 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that really uncomfortable thing actually happened to 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: teach me this skill set or I'm really glad that 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: uncomfortable thing happened. I'm sure I'll grow from it. Like 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I think you and I were talking about just last 69 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: week the yoga retreat got canceled. H that and I 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: haven't really spoken about it, definitely not on the poddo yet. 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: Oh I I never know when this is coming out 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: versus when the other diary pods come out. But yeah, 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and that like at the time, I felt really defeated 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: and really heartbroken, and then I thought, well, there's probably 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: something to learn and gain from this whole experience. So 76 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm just really trying to grow from the uncomfortable stuff. 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Boss. This podcast has gotten real deep, real quick. 78 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: Oh, this is how you're meet talk all the time, 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: your monkey. 80 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: We're only we're only three minutes in. I we're already 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: getting already getting to the meaty stuff. 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I hope you. You'll have to forgive me Boss on 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: an editing front. Eyepress record like three or four seconds 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: after you started talking, So that's not going to be 85 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: super fun FEU to line up. 86 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's not going to be synced. 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, just giving you a head that's okay. 88 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: That's okay. But how are you feeling in general? How's 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: your happiness level, how's your fulfillmental level, how's your heart feeling? 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: I feel really good. I feel really I think I 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: said this to you recently. I feel like I'm growing 92 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: into the human that I need to become, and that's 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: a really empowering feeling. That's a really exciting feeling, and 94 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: it's an overall I would say, like, I feel like 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm learning and getting an understanding of the concept of 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: self belief and that's really cool and really nice and 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: really I feel it feels solid to sit in that energy, 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: and I love it. 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: I love seeing you change. I think you've grown so 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: much over the last four months. I think it's been 101 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: probably some of the quickest growth I've seen you go 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: through and quickest I suppose changes as well. 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel I feel like there's been a lot 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: of growth and change, and both you and I have 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: kept up our therapy this whole time, which I think 106 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: has been helpful not just for us both personally, but 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: also our relationship as well. So I'm a big I'm 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a big You all know this. I'm a huge believer 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: in therapy, and I think that that's been really helpful 110 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: for me to process the more challenging experiences much faster 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: and then enjoy all the other stuff so much more. 112 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I think You've also had some really great 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: experiences there as well. You've met some great people which 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: have definitely helped, you know, influence your time there and 115 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: influence your growth there as well. 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, totally, I've made some great mates and probably 117 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: like a couple for life, you know. 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice, boss, very very nice. You're not Do 119 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: you want to share some lessons that you've maybe experienced 120 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: in this last three to four months. 121 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I think there's a difference. So the first 122 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: one will be, like, there's a huge difference between being 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: lonely and alone. And I haven't felt lonely at all, 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: but like when my car battery got stolen in the 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: middle of the night and like I couldn't call you 126 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: until three pm when Australia wakes up the next day, 127 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and I had two meetings to get to at like 128 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: eight eight that morning and then again at ten, and 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: I had to cancel both of them, and I just 130 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: felt very alone. I was like, oh wow, I have 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: to troubleshoot this thing on my own now. And it 132 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: worked out, it was totally fine, and I had help 133 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: from my landlord in the end, but I had to 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: like think quick and think in the moment and get 135 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: shit done, you know. And so yeah, I think that, 136 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: and I didn't like the feeling at all. Like I 137 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: was totally okay with being alone, and I definitely didn't 138 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: feel lonely, but I was aware that I was alone. 139 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't have boss that I 140 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: can call and help. I don't have that kind of 141 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: mate that you can call when you get a little 142 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: bit stuck, Like I haven't got that. I haven't built 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: that here yet. And so I was super aware of 144 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: being alone that I talked to my therapist about it 145 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and he said that humans are actually designed to be 146 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: in a tribe. And he's like, and there's nothing wrong 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: with being fiercely independent, and he said, but it's really 148 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: good that you can you can feel and understand when 149 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: you are alone and kind of look at it non judgmentally, 150 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: not as a bad thing or as a good thing. 151 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I'm alone right now. So I've 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: definitely felt that feeling. 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: That would have given you the confident, like some confidence 154 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: though to kind of tackle anything. 155 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest confidence thing for me, like 156 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: I A I think I said to you, like a 157 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: few things of I've been followed home out of an Albertson's, 158 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: which is like a Cohle's not home, but followed half 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: home and I changed my route and called you quickly 160 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and like someone you're kind of yelling at me about 161 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: my ass all at the one time, and then you know, 162 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: I've seen someone have a schizophrenic break and then the 163 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: car thing, and so like, I feel like I've had 164 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: these kind of like not hiccups, but like uncomfortable experiences 165 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that have bought resilience as a result, and you get 166 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: to learn about yourself. Sorry, yeah, I can tell you 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: keep going to speak, and I'm just like, keep talking perfect. 168 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, have they been your biggest challenges? 169 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was really interested in the when I saw 170 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: someone go through that like schizophrenic kind of break, where 171 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: my like, because you never know until we're in that 172 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: position what you're going to do. You've got no concept 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: of how it's like what they say, you know, when 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: catastrophe happens, what do you do? And my immediate reaction, 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: like my primal reaction was to go to like the 176 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: victim in this one of the victims in the scene, 177 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: and that was what my That's when all my concern was. 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't give an air about everyone else that I 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: knew was totally fine. My concern was And it's just 180 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: interesting what your brain and what you like it overtakes. 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: It's like this primal part of you that overtakes your 182 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: rational brain, if that makes sense. So that was really 183 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: interesting to learn. 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think that says about you? That 185 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: you went straight to the victim to help. 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: So my therapist said, you were able to read the 187 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: room and analyze who was at highest risk. And he 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: said you were able to go to the highest risk 189 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: the person that was at highest risk. And he said, 190 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that's a really cool thing because most people followed the drama, 191 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: like followed the person that was going through the thing, 192 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: and I stayed behind with the more of the victim. 193 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: And I I didn't know why I did it, and 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I said it to my therapist. I was like, why 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: did I do that? And he was like, you were 196 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: able to assess the situation really quickly and be with 197 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: the person that needed the support the most. And I actually, 198 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: and this isn't to plug my book at all, but 199 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: I write about in the book that's coming out soon, 200 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Feels Failing. It's called I talk about this US military 201 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: training and it's called hunting for the Good, and the 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: theory is in a catastrophe or in a scenario when 203 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: really bad stuff is happening, so, for example, in military training, 204 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: they might be in a war torn part of the 205 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: world and a bomb's just gone off, say, and they've 206 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: just watched one of their teammates potentially die and another 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: one be severely injured. And so they're trained to hunt 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: for the goods, so that if they can see that 209 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: someone has passed away but there's someone that's entire need 210 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: of help, their brains won't going to shock and mourn 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: the death straight away. They'll go straight to trying to 212 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: save the person that they can. And it's called hunting 213 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: for the good. You can totally google it. It's on 214 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: YouTube and stuff. It's really fascinating and it's like training 215 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: your brain to find like it's like a risk assessment thing, 216 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: to find who needs the support the most. It's really 217 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: coolure fascinating stuff. I love human behavior. There's a whole 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: chapter in my book on human behavior. 219 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean, but also empathy. 220 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, of course Bosco, you would bring up empathy. 221 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: You're much softer than me. I'm like the more like you. 222 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: I know, well, no, I'm looking at you and going, yeah, okay, fine, 223 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: you at this like military brain of like risk assessment. 224 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: But I'm like also you're an empathetic person that would 225 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: care you know that for that young girl that was 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: kind of the victim of that episode. So you went 227 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: to care for her and comfort her. 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Yeah, I guess totally and I do feel Yeah, 229 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: I think I do feel all of that. But I was, Yeah, 230 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: it was it felt totally primal. That's all I can like. 231 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: Totally fight or flight. You just kind of jumped in, 232 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: did what you needed to do, and then yeah, very 233 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: good boss, very good. 234 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Thanks one. 235 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 2: All right, next question long distance relationship. 236 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I have this question in your list. 237 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: How do you feel about our long distance relationship? 238 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible gift. I think that we 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: you obviously you're not physically together in every way like 240 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: sure like sexually, but also like far out, like I 241 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: don't have my buddy. I don't have my buddy that 242 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: I have my morning coffee with. I don't have my 243 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: you know, you and I go to the farmer's market 244 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: every Friday, like all these things that you and I like, 245 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: we're very much intertwined into each other's lives and so 246 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: like that is a big chunk that's physically gone, so 247 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you're automatically like connecting on different levels. You're connecting much 248 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: more intensely on an emotional level, on like our psychology level, 249 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: Like we're both seeing a therapist whilst we're going through this, 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: where we're also like holding a lot of space for 251 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: each other. Arguably you're holding a lot more space for 252 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: me than I am for you. You're the MVP. Yes, yeah, 253 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: I could see em a leaning into the micad his 254 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: two cents there. 255 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: I just want to breathe into the mic, so I'm 256 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: sitting back. 257 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it brings I think it brings 258 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: you closer. It builds a very deep bond in connection, 259 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: and it fosters something that sometimes you don't have the 260 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: gift of having long distance, Like I actually see it 261 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: as a huge gift or a relationship. I think like 262 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: little things like you've been sending me care packs with 263 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: little love notes, and I've been writing you old school cards, 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and like it brings back this old style of romance 265 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: that probably your grandparents would have had, you know, And 266 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: I just think there's a real beauty to that. 267 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, well, I think I think there's nothing wrong 268 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: with it. That's the thing. I think everyone freaks out 269 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh a long distance. But I think 270 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: also most people are codependent, so. 271 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. 272 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think we are, No, I don't. 273 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: I think I think potentially I thought I was maybe 274 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: in the past, but I definitely know now that I'm not, 275 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: and I don't think that you are a little bit 276 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: but not. 277 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Really Excuse me, Mark, can you explain. 278 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm just saying you like you like being around the boss, 279 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: you know, I said a little bit, a little bit, 280 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: but no, we're not like codependent people like we. 281 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Neither of us. 282 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: I know, we're very very like independent, you know, relationship wise, though, 283 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: what's been I suppose challenges or lessons or things that 284 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: we've had to really work on to make sure that 285 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: you know, we're communicating and we're making sure our emotional 286 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: needs met well. 287 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: The biggest challenge for me is actually the time difference. 288 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: So I have to wait till three pm every day 289 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: heit for me to contact you, So I almost have 290 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: a full day without until I can speak to you. 291 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: And I didn't think that that would bother me at all. 292 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: But I'm such a morning person. Like we're recording this 293 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: at quarter past five pm at night, which is like 294 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting to the end of my day now and 295 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: you're kind of just caffeinating, you've dropped your sammy, You're 296 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: all focused and feeling funky and fresh. 297 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: Come on, see, I love the time difference because I 298 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: wake up, I get to talk to you, and then 299 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: by four o'clock you kind of go to bed, and 300 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: I get the whole second half of my day to myself. 301 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: The truth comes out now, doesn't it. 302 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. It kind of suits it actually kind 303 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: of suits me because I'm a bit more of a 304 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: night hour and a night worker, where you're definitely a 305 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: morning person. So it's probably hard for you. But sometimes 306 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: I talk to you at midnight or one o'clock in 307 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: the morning when you just wake up. That's nice. 308 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: It's nice. That's a little treat. I like. 309 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: That's not creepy fe Okay, So okay, So what have 310 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: been apart from the time difference, were any other challenges? 311 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Honestly, like you're going to think this is petty af 312 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: but like when we FaceTime, because of where Boss and 313 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: I live, we have really bad receptions. So usually I'm 314 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: facetiming till blank screen that says poor connection, and when 315 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: I get to see your. 316 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: Phone and has very bad Internet very bad. 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: So I'm often like talking like and sometimes we'll be 318 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: like downloading about my day or listening to your stuff 319 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and it's just like shit, like I just want to 320 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: see your face. So that's hard as well. But I 321 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: mean big picture, like also, five years ago, we would 322 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: never even had this, So how lucky that we've even 323 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: got its like challenges you are. We haven't had any 324 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: fights that I can think of, unless I'm missing any. 325 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we definitely get on each other's nerves and stuff, 326 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: but not badly, and we rekindle pretty yeah quick and 327 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: in the moment, So I don't think. 328 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: I think the only frustration, it's like, yeah, only frustrations 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: is I think you just want to be close to 330 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: a person. 331 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: In your nuke boss. 332 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: I like bosses little nook which is his little neck area. 334 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I think that's Most females like 335 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: that that little area. 336 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: Do they? Is that for the past experience? Is it? No? 337 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: I just well, every girl I know, I think if 338 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: they love a guy, they you know, love a person, 339 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: I should say they want to sit in that little area. 340 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: It's something comforting and something nice about it. 341 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: I do love the new if I'm not going to lie. 342 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: I know, I know. So it is our birthday's boss, 343 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: this is a birthday episode, Yes, sir, not going to 344 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: say our age? 345 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh say it, yell it from the shops. I don't care. 346 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: We are thirty six this year, correct? That is wild? 347 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? It's just pretty young to me. 348 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: I feel like it's just gone so fast. I don't 349 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: know where the last even, you know, three years with you, 350 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I don't know where that's gone. I know we've had 351 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: kind of like a two year pandemic. 352 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: But so I think I was thirty two when we 353 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: started dming on Bumble and then I had I must 354 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: have my thirty third birthday right before our first proper date, 355 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: would that be right? 356 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 357 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it's our three anniversary on the eleventh 358 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: of October, the day I get out of quarantine. 359 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: Boss. Wow, that's exciting. That's very exciting. So what's been 360 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: your biggest lesson in the last year, Because you've just 361 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: complete is thirty six mean you've completed thirty six years? 362 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: Yep, will be entering our thirty seventh year around the. 363 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: St thirty sevens. Yeah, so in your completed a thirty 364 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: six years, what's been your lessons Boss, or what's been 365 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: your lessons this year? 366 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: I think this is a good one to look at 367 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: because I think with the pandemic and with Australia really 368 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: struggling with COVID while the rest of the world begins 369 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: to slowly open, it's a really interesting time. I think 370 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the biggest lesson for me is like and I feel 371 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: like I probably sound like a broken record, but I 372 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: think for me is like resilience, self belief, self confidence, 373 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: trusting your gut, being able to read the play, like 374 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: being able to call that bullshit. I'm getting really good 375 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: at that. I've got no problems at all walking away 376 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: from someone, walking away from a situation calling out BS. 377 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: And I've been doing that more than I expect it. 378 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: And I think in LA I'm doing it on a 379 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm growing so fast and I'm doing 380 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: it on such a quick level, Like I'll be like, Ooh, 381 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: that felt really shit, well that person just did and 382 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: I'll literally in the moment go hey, that just felt 383 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: really mean and hurt for what you just did. And 384 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: usually I wouldn't be able to do that in the moment. 385 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: Usually I would stew on it for a week and 386 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: then I'd give them a second chance, give them benefit 387 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: of the doubt, and then I'd find myself in the 388 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: same hurt situation, you know, a month down the track. 389 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: Ye. 390 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, I can't believe how quickly I feel 391 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: like I'm getting clear. Not to quote my favorite TV 392 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: show that I'm binge watching at the moment here in America, 393 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: which is called Friday Night Lights. It's like an old 394 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: like literally like fifteen year old football Texan football show, 395 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: but teen drama basically, And they have a saying before 396 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: they go out onto the field, and it's clear eyes 397 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: full heart can't lose. And I like that your eyes, 398 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: full heart can't lose. And it's like, I feel like 399 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm building my clear eyes right now. 400 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: You are. It's actually been pretty incredible to watch you 401 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: go through those changes and call out that bullshit or 402 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: people's bullshit and not basically put up with narcissists and 403 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: people that gaslight. 404 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think you and I both are 405 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in this phase of our lives where we really want 406 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: to give our careers a red hot crack. Like I 407 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: think we both made the choice to put like any 408 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: planning of kidlings or family on the back burner for 409 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: at least the next couple of years and follow our 410 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: career passion. And as a result of that, like I've 411 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: realized pretty quickly that if you really want to be 412 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: playing in the big leagues career wise and really going 413 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: for it, you can't afford to have naysayers, people that 414 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: are fake friends, people that are going to gas light you, 415 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: people that aren't going to have you back. You actually 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: can't afford to have those kind of peace in your vortex, 417 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: like in your world. It totally stops you from succeeding. 418 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: I think I told you a story. This would be 419 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: like six months ago now, but I had a meeting 420 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: with a publicist and I told her, I, really, my 421 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: dream is to be a talk show host like Steve 422 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon. You know. I 423 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: was like, this is my dream. And we're in the 424 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: middle of a meeting and she spat her vena out 425 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: and start laughing at me. And I remember, do you 426 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: remember I walked I walked back to you in Sydney. Yeah, 427 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: and I said to you, I can't work with that person, yep. 428 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: And it got stopped straight. Like I put an end 429 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: to that I'm working relationships straight away literally almost instantaneously. 430 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, sound that sounds really ruthless and I probably 431 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: sound like a cold ass, cold ass business bitch right now, 432 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: but it just I was like, oh wow, I can't 433 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: afford to have that energy representing me, and so yeah. 434 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: I think that's cold at all. I think that if 435 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: a relationship or a business relationship isn't serving you, then yeah, 436 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: there's absolutely nothing wrong with cutting that off really quickly. Yeah, yeah, 437 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: I'm actually quite proud of you that you did that. 438 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: Like I remember, we did talk about it, and we 439 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: did talk it through and it was the right thing 440 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: and looking back now, one hundred percent best decision you 441 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: ever made, right decision totally. 442 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: But do you remember it took I oscillated for about 443 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: a month. That took a few weeks, whereas now I'm 444 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: doing sit very fast. Like if something happens. 445 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: You felt that in your gut straight away. You came 446 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: back from that meeting, you told me how you felt, 447 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: and we were like, this is how you feel, this 448 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: is how you feel in your gut. You need to 449 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: follow that straight away. Yes, it did take you know, 450 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: two weeks to kind of action it or a week 451 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: to action it. But your first instinct was one hundred 452 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: percent correct, and I think you always need to go 453 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: back to that. 454 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: That's what the candle healers said to me, you know 455 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: how I keep getting these hippie candles read for me 456 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: in LA. They were like, you need to trust your 457 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: gut intuition way more, and you need to believe in 458 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: yourself and be way more confident career wise. 459 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: You do boss, of course, never think all right, last 460 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: well maybe not last question, but in the last year, 461 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: would you do anything different, any changes. I don't want 462 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: to say regrets, because I don't think that we have 463 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: any regrets, but would you change anything or do anything different? 464 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: The only the only thing that's been really tough is 465 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and I know that it won't matter in the big 466 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: picture when I look back, even a year's time or 467 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: two years time. But like the amount of money that 468 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: I've blown on flying back to Australia is insane to me, 469 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: Like that one economy flight to get home that I 470 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: booked because it was a guarantee and now it's not 471 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: a guarantee. It to me is like that feels like 472 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: a waste of twelve thousand dollars straight away, and so 473 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: like probably like things that I've tried, I've tried to 474 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: make like the best, like clearest choices in the moment, 475 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just like whoa like even thull backfire And 476 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I know that, you know, you've got to risk things 477 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: to go for things, but like, it is really hard 478 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: when you do feel like things are falling down around 479 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: you and you're you know, putting as much as you 480 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: can into creating a future and a dream. The only 481 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: other thing that I've probably found really hard. I don't 482 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: want to sound negatve bad at LA because far out 483 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I love LA so much. It is tough, it is rough, 484 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: it is confronting, it is direct, it is loud, it 485 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: is abrasive, it is dirty sometimes like and yet it 486 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: is still full of dreams and passion and opportunity, like 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: I've never felt that energy anywhere else maybe New York, 488 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: and so I love it, like I feel like I'm 489 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: meant to be here, But it's it's financially it has 490 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: come like you and me could have bought a house 491 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: for the amount of money that I've spent on this, 492 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: as you know. And so that's probably the bit that 493 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: kind of irks me a little bit because I'm just like, well, 494 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: and also it's been really hard to get management, Like 495 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: they do not give an f about any career you've 496 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: got in Australia. So I've just dived into training and 497 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm studying my little butt off and going to as 498 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: many classes as I can, which is great because I'm 499 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: building a skill set. But like, yeah, I need to 500 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: have a better game plan for getting management over here 501 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: because at the moment I was. 502 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: And you will do that next trip. 503 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I'll be back here soon. 504 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: Very very soon. Okay, last question from me, m highlight 505 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: or pivotal moment in the last twelve months. Oh, that's Normice. 506 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: That's a hard one, isn't That's nice? 507 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: You want like a relationship highlight and a career highlight or. 508 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want. It's your question. 509 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: Relationship high light would have to be. I loved the 510 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: way we bought in the New Year. You and I 511 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: had a picnic on Broken haird just you and me 512 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: sitting on the beach having a glass of red wine, 513 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: and then the rain started coming down. It was like 514 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: there was a rainbow and it was just you and 515 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: me and there was no one else on the beach. 516 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: Pretty much and it was just that was like that 517 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: little moment that was my favorite. That has been my 518 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: most favorite News Eve of my life, so that would. 519 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: Be Yeah, that was my favorite too. 520 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's a bit lot coming from a DJ. 521 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: Like you've probably had some real rippers of New Year's Eves, 522 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: so that's noise. 523 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: But I actually don't like New Year's Eve. 524 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: He's the DJs, don't do they? 525 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I like have worked so many News Eves, 526 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: but then also hate that expectation to just, you know, 527 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: you have to party or get lit or whatever it is. 528 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I've never ever ever enjoyed 529 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: a New Year's Eve unless I've had a really quiet 530 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: one with you know, a couple of really close friends 531 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: or you. You're my You're my heartlight. 532 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: We've got to do that again this year. 533 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: Yes, we will do that again, but then we'll go 534 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: to like a Hemsworth party after. 535 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, you've been networking your little brains, haven't you. 536 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: You'll be cast on the next season of Byron Bay's 537 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: Boss This right, hope, and then career highlight. I'm going 538 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: to say probably, I don't know. I think probably getting 539 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: to La after like all these years with the Green card, 540 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: and like, I got a photo taken at Sydney International 541 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: Terminal this beautiful couple that we're also traveling, and it's 542 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: really scary to travel right now, it feels really cool 543 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: on to travel internationally. And I took a photo of 544 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: this really lovely couple, and then I said, could you 545 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: please take one of me? And I was just standing 546 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: under the Sydney Domestic International Travel and I knew in 547 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the next fifteen minutes I'd be on that plane and 548 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: on my way to activating my Green card and therefore 549 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: my American dream. So that felt like a really special 550 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: moment to me, I think. And then I would probably 551 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: say actually being in acting school on Melros in Hollywood 552 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: would be another really cool, like pinch yourself moment. 553 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I took the biggest sigh of 554 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: relief when you land, when you cut through customs. 555 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: Because I had fifteen kilos of paperwork. 556 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: I know, I was like, fuck, I've been hearing about 557 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: your ship three fucking years, like you know, so when 558 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: you got through, I was like, I felt like I 559 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: almost achieved it as well, because you actually you were 560 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: actually through the you know, through the gates. And through 561 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: customs and everything was stamped. 562 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big jo. 563 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: Very good boss. I'm very proud of you. 564 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Happy birthday to use sila. Are you handing 565 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the bat now? Are you now? 566 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Unless you want to add anything about you know 567 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: or how people at thirty six, any expectations life, any 568 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: final quotes you want to give. 569 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: I would just say that when I'm in Australia, I 570 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: do feel a bit of pressure on my age and 571 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: to have kids and to be married and to do 572 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: all these things. Whereas here, like in Australia, people like 573 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: do you want to have kids? Do you want to 574 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: get married? What's your plan? You're going to buy a house, 575 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: And it's all this kind of like settle security stuff, 576 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: And here nobody asks that, nobody asks anything about that. 577 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: Everybody asks about like what's your dream? Do you want 578 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: to work as a TV host or as an actor 579 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: or you can do both? 580 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: Very good boss. I think that you don't need to 581 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: worry about family or marriage or any of those crappy 582 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: kids or hat buying houses or anything like that, or 583 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: any of those crappy expectations. I was going to say, 584 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: not crappy kids. 585 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: I was like is he going Is he gonna come 586 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: back and sink that. One thing we should probably share 587 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: is you and I have a little deal where we 588 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: say that we'll check in every two years on the 589 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: kid thing. So we checked in last year on our 590 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: thirty fifth birthday, and so we'll check in next year 591 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: on our thirty seventh birthday and just see where we're 592 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: at with the kids. There. Totally, we are both so 593 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: career focused. 594 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: Totally. I'm so happy with that. Whatever happens, whatever happens, 595 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: whatever happens. All right, my turn, Come on, here we go? Oh, okay, here, 596 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready, We're We're halfway through. Boss, we 597 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: don't want this. 598 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: Got my little notebook. How come you're. 599 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: Allowed to make noises but I'm not allowed to make noises? 600 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: I always bring my mind? 601 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: Am I allowed to take a sip of water? 602 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's both take a water break. Boss's got the 603 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: most louder swallow in the world. 604 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: No, I've tried to really reduce. 605 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: Yours deliberately to satire you. 606 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: All right, come on, let's go. 607 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Okay, number one question. I have eleven questions for you, 608 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: do sir? Just a word? 609 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: Okay, rapid fire, let's go. 610 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: Rapid fire. There is a rapid fire section at the end. Anyway, 611 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: number one bar and bay lockdown. Give us, give us 612 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: a taste. What's going on? How does it feel. When 613 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: do you think you'll get out? I mean that said, 614 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you might be out by the time this pod comes out. 615 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: Look, it's completely fine. There's no cases here, although they do. 616 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: I reckon. We've dodged a ball at two or three times. 617 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: They keep finding fragments, which means someone has it here, 618 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: but for some reason, there hasn't been an outbreak yet 619 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: touch Wood. Other than that, you can still go surfing. 620 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: You can't hang out at the beach, but you can 621 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: still go surfing. You can still run the lighthouse, but 622 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: you can't sit on the beach. My biggest problem has 623 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: been that I can't hang out with friends or I 624 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: can't see people or you know, that's been probably the 625 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: hardest part. I don't really have like a single bubble 626 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: or anything like that. 627 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: You know. 628 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: I kind of got maybe one one friend that I 629 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: could hang out with, but other than that, apart from exercising, 630 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 2: I can't really hang out with anybody. So that's been 631 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: a bit of a struggle. But look, Byron's fine. Byron's 632 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: totally fine. I've been knuckling down, I've been working, I've 633 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: been exercising, So yeah, keeping my kind of mental health 634 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: really really strong during this whole time. 635 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Look at you. Thanks for that, Thanks for giving us 636 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: that little insight into Byron Bay's life and lockdown. Okay, 637 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: so you asked me this question, I've got this to 638 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: ask you as well. How are you finding being in 639 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: a long distance relationship. By the time we finally are 640 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: backing each other's arms, I think over five months will 641 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: have passed. 642 00:33:50,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Jesus. Look, I definitely before you left, I was maybe 643 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: a little bit nervous, maybe a bit concerned, and I 644 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: was like, maybe there'll be an adjustment period, or I'll 645 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: be lonely, or I'll feel sad, And yeah, there totally 646 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: was at the start. There's a bit of that period. 647 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 2: But I feel like I adapted really really really quick, 648 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 2: and I actually feel happy and I feel fine, and 649 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: I feel satisfied and I feel emotionally supported by you. 650 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's actually so much easier than I thought. 651 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: And I thoroughly having thoroughly enjoyed my time. 652 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: And you've never lived alone. 653 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: I've never lived alone. Yeah, but like I was a 654 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: little bit scared at the start. You know, I'm obviously 655 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: an anxious overthinker. So I'm there eating dinner and I'm like, 656 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: if I if I choke here, I'm fucked. 657 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: You know, brain goes, mine goes to there's a murderer, 658 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: like I always will get worried. 659 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: That is small. So I don't know, I feel, you know, 660 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: there's yeah, it's it's like I'm with fucking virons, like 661 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 2: the safest place on earth. But yeah, I'm not concerned 662 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: about my I suppose safety. It's more yet, you know, 663 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: if I'm sitting here eating dinner and a choke, I'm like, 664 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm done. Or if I need to call someone, who 665 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 2: would I call? You know? So yeah, I mean there's 666 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: always always those concerns. And yeah, I've never lived alone. 667 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: I've never lived away from my family. I've never lived 668 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: away from, you know, all of my friends that I 669 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: grew up with my entire life. Like I kind of 670 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: have a whole new set of friends here, and a 671 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: whole new set of people besides maybe one person that 672 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: I knew from Melbourne, you know totally, and you know 673 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: as well, like a lot of people that I'm friends 674 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: with here are your friends or people that I've met 675 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: through you that have kind of adopted me as well. 676 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: But that's been really, that's been really fucking nice. Actually, 677 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: even Max, actually Max keeps you know, I looked after 678 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: his dog this week, which was very very nice. He 679 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: was here, well, yeah, he was here for work and 680 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: he dropped his dog off and had I had Frank 681 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 2: for three days, which is wonderful. But yeah, other than that, 682 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed my time alone. I've enjoyed my ability 683 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: to work and focus and write music and work on 684 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: our coffee business and a couple other business projects that 685 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm involved with at the moment. And it hasn't been 686 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: I've never felt sad or lonely or cried myself to sleep, 687 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: I think, and that's been such an incredible thing for me. 688 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I would say this is absolutely one of 689 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: the best growth periods that I've ever had personally as well. 690 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: And it's given me that, you know, confidence in life 691 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: and confidence in myself to really, yeah, tackle tackle anything 692 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: without And yes, I still have my safety net, which 693 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: is yeah, like family and you and all that and 694 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: my friends, but it feels like I don't have it 695 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: as close and as accessible that I do have to 696 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 2: take care of my own shit while I'm while I'm here. 697 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: Who So, what would you say, like fact, the long 698 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: distance part of the question is like, what you say 699 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: has been like your highlight of being in a long 700 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: distance relationship and what has been the low light? Look? 701 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: Highlight, I think just the ability to emotionally support each 702 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: other and still be there. I don't feel any lack 703 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: in our relationship. I don't feel a lack of support 704 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 2: from you, and I feel well. I hope that I've 705 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 2: been able to able to emotionally support you as well 706 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: from a distance. So that's definitely been a highlight. I mean, 707 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean the only low light is like, yeah, you 708 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: do want your partner physically close to you, you do 709 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: want them you know that hot that hot body in 710 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: the bed next to you. Oh yeah, on a cool night, 711 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: But on the hot night, it's it's been thoroughly enjoyable 712 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: sleeping alone. 713 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: Cool. Okay, So I think you've kind of answered this 714 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: question in your answers before, but basically in the last 715 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: year you've gone from being in Cheltenham, Melbourne to then 716 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: moving to Talkie with Me and doing ten months of 717 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: lockdown in talks with me, and then from talks, we 718 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: literally drove pretty much straight to Byron Bay when we 719 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: moved to Byron Bay. And then you've gone from being 720 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: in Byron with me for six months and then you've 721 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: done you will have done five months on your own 722 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: in Byron and so like, what would you say has 723 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: been the biggest change for you? Like there there is 724 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: a lot of like independence, growth and whatnot going on there, 725 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, that I think as well, if we 726 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: asked you a year ago, if you thought you'd be 727 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: in this scenario, you might not have thought so. 728 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: So I would have said, no, yeah, Like what is. 729 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: Your biggest takeaway from the like and growth over the 730 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: last year? 731 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: Biggest takeaway and growth? M I mean, that's there's sight. 732 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: I've actually got so many. In a way, the positive 733 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: of the whole pandemic is that it did actually kind 734 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: of force us to make some big changes. You know. 735 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: First of all, you know, I think we'd only been together. 736 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 2: You've got to realize that this has meant we were 737 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: ten months in Turkie and then ten months here, so 738 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: like we're coming up to twenty months. It's almost two years. 739 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: Now of living together. 740 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: You mean, yeah, so we were kind of still pretty 741 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: fresh at the start of our relationship, and we almost 742 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: just moved in together without even realizing, which was great. 743 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: I think that was such a great step to. 744 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: Still we hang on buster rhymes, we've been together a 745 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: year already. Your monkey head had we, well we're together 746 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: three years in like a month. 747 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I mean, well, yeah, we're together a 748 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: year and then almost like almost forced us to pull 749 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: our finger out and move in together, which I think 750 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: was great. I think that was a great step that we. 751 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: Talks was awesome because there was no pressure on. 752 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: Us exactly exactly. 753 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: We were just in dad's hold. 754 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: I was a question again, biggest lessons do. 755 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: The biggest growth from that, Like, you've literally gone from 756 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: like and you're like to preface for people listening, Matt's 757 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: family is like quite traditional and Italian. Your family members 758 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: all live really close to one another, and you've literally 759 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: gone from being Melbourne based and always need your family 760 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: to talkie, which is like, you know, a fair bit further, 761 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: and then to a whole new state, which is further again, 762 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: and then to be also on your own, like and 763 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: the states are all locked down as well, so it's 764 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: not like you can just get on a plane and 765 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: catch up with your fans. Look. 766 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, biggest growth is that I can't believe how independent 767 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: I feel and how I don't. I don't think I 768 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: ever feel like I've grown up. That's always been I mean, 769 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: I talk about that with my therapist. I'm like, how 770 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: am I thirty five and don't feel like an adult? 771 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: You know. I definitely feel like I'm so capable of 772 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: just anything right now. I feel like life has thrown 773 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: so many crazy things at me, even in the last 774 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: ten years. And when I look back now, I go like, 775 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm actually so capable no matter what the situation is, big, small, big, little, 776 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: fucking life changing, I'm so actually capable of dealing with that. 777 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: And I feel that pre pandemic I did put so 778 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: much work into my mental health that I did come 779 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: into this pandemic quite prepared to actually deal with it, 780 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 2: you know, And I look back at I look back 781 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: at it, and I would probably say that, do you 782 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: know what, I've probably actually dealt with worse things than 783 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: this pandemic emotionally, And you know, I don't know. I Yeah, 784 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 2: I think that's just been my biggest growth that I've 785 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 2: been able to deal with these bigger, harder issues and 786 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: still function and not have you know, panic attacks every 787 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: day or break down and don't want to work and 788 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 2: just cry myself to sleep. So yeah, just the fact 789 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 2: that I'm super super capable, and I know that. You know, 790 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: our brains are really hardwired for just negative experiences, you know, 791 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 2: where every negative experience that we have, we just hold 792 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: onto that and just rethink that all the time, and 793 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: any positive thing that we do have. You know, what 794 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: do they say, like our brains are like teflone and 795 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 2: they just go away. I've been able to hold onto 796 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: those positive experiences, take them into the hard lessons and 797 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: experiences we've gone through in the last two years, and really, yeah, 798 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: be adaptable to them and come out okay. You know 799 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: I still have tough days, but yeah, dealing with all that, 800 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm totally fine, and I've actually never felt happier, if 801 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm honest. 802 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: That's amazing, boss, Go Wow. Can I just say that 803 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: Sammy has definitely kicked in because that was a mighty 804 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: long answer. Sorry, But the overall message of it was 805 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: awesome about this sense of capability and being able to 806 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: handle whatever is thrown at you, which I think is 807 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: a great I think that's I think that's a very 808 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: adult skill set to have. Like, so yeah, when we met, 809 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: you were like, I don't feel a day over twenty 810 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: seven and I look twenty seven. I was like, good 811 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: dream and mate, do you remember? 812 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know I still well give me eyes no. No. 813 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 2: Like recently, a few people they're like, I can't believe 814 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: you're thirty five. I was like, how would you think 815 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: I was? And they're like, twenty seven, twenty eight. I 816 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 2: was like, thank you very much for that. Just going 817 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 2: back to what I said before, I actually wrote down 818 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 2: something the other day that I heard in the podcast, 819 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: and I think that it actually really really related to 820 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: how I feel in the last kind of twelve months. 821 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: And it's it's our decisions, not our conditions, that determine 822 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: our mindset, our self worth and attitude. So it was 823 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: it was the decisions that I made two years ago. 824 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 2: It was the decisions that I've made in the last 825 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: you know, ten months of living here and the ten 826 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 2: months that we were in Torquay that have really influenced, 827 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, my mindset, my attitude, my self worth. So yeah, 828 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: the conditions are bad. You know, I can't work, I 829 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 2: can't really well, no, I can work, but it's like, 830 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a fucking millionaire this year. 831 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 2: You know, I've had jobs taken away, I've lost income 832 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 2: from music, but it's my attitude towards that. My attitude 833 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 2: could be that of lack, but I still have everything 834 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 2: I need, still able to live and be happy. So yeah, 835 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: my decisions have been to be of happiness and abundance, 836 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: even if I haven't as much money as last year. 837 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad you brought that up because I 838 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: was going to bring up the music industry and I 839 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: just thought like it would make sense because you are 840 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: a music producer and DJ, and have I said it? Right? 841 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: Is there a third thing that you are that's the 842 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: podcast stuff as the third thing? 843 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 2: Right? 844 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: I suppose because you're it's music producer and DJ. And 845 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: obviously all your DJ and gigs were like pulled from 846 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: underneath you the second that COVID hit and I remember 847 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: like used to so regularly in Melbourne, and obviously, like 848 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: your music, you make money on it being played like 849 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: and it's obviously not getting played because their news are shut. 850 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: So what has the cost been? Like you see a 851 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of memes go around that the arts have suffered 852 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: the most through you know, theaters being shut down and 853 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: music events not going ahead. What has that effect been 854 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: on you? 855 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just straight off the bat at a 856 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: top level financially, so you know, royalties of residuals, gigs, 857 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: and then yeah, I suppose jobs as well. I don't 858 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: think there's as many creative jobs. You know, you might 859 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: get like an AD or a sync dial for an 860 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 2: AD or a commercial. I don't think that that has 861 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 2: been as available in the last twelve twelve months to 862 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: even longer. So that's been number one, but that filters 863 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 2: down on so many levels. You know, there's so many bars, nightclubs, restaurants, 864 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: music festivals that employee thousands and thousands of people that 865 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: will not go ahead this year. One hundred percent. We 866 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: will not see festivals and stuff return till you know, 867 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 2: mid next year. And I've had you know, crazy yeah, 868 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: and I've had meetings with you know, like Apron publishers 869 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 2: and record and stuff. It's like our governing board that 870 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 2: collects all our royalties and stuff for music, so for music. Yeah, 871 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 2: so yeah, none of that's going to return. None of 872 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: that's going to return. And I think, I mean, I 873 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: said this a year ago, and I said, don't ever 874 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: expect the world to go back. I never thought we 875 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 2: were going to go back to this sense of normality, 876 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 2: and I don't ever think it will. I don't think 877 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: we'll see the same that we had, you know, kind 878 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: of two years ago. There's going to be so many changes. 879 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: There's going to be you know, show your vaccine report. 880 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: You know, you need to get a test before you 881 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: go to a festival. There's going to be all these 882 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 2: different protocols that are going to come in. Yes, we 883 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: all music will come back, but it will look a 884 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: little bit different and it will change. And I think 885 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: that we do need to adapt to that. And I 886 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: think that we can't hold on to yeah, pre twenty 887 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: nineteen or the heyday of music festivals and being crammed 888 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 2: into sweaty little nightclubs with people. 889 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm in America and events and music festivals 890 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: are going ahead. But yeah, people don't have to show 891 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: vaccine or a negative COVID test. That's not though. 892 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: I think Australia is far more conservative when. 893 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: It comes to that. Yeah, okay, that's so. 894 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, Europe as well, like festivals in Europe or 895 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 2: going ahead a lot of things, but you know, ABISA, 896 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: this season is not so yeah, that's as I said, 897 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 2: there's so many changes. That's I think so many people 898 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 2: won't go back to music after this. There's there's not 899 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 2: a way to you know, sustain that lifestyle, you know, 900 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: unless you're touring or you're releasing music or you're making royals. 901 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 2: He's how do you stay music? You're gonna I've got 902 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: so many friends that have just taken on you know, 903 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: laboring jobs or gardening jobs or working in whatever it is, 904 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 2: just to be able to pay their bills. So which 905 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: is you know, we all need to do something and 906 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 2: to adapt to actually survive. 907 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: So looking into a crystal ball into the future, like 908 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: what would your goal now be within the music industry. 909 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm not holding on to dejaying or live events anytime soon. 910 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: I think that I think that I'll probably revisit that 911 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: next year. I don't think that I'll be dejaying or 912 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 2: doing events this year. Unless Byron miraculously opens up and 913 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: forms a bubble with Queensland, then yeah, potentially. I think 914 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: for me, I've always written music, and I've always loved music. 915 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 2: I never made I never made money until twenty twelve, 916 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 2: and I never did it to make money. Money's always 917 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 2: been kind of a byproduct of, you know, making music 918 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 2: and having a passion for something. So yeah, I'm still 919 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 2: going to write music. I'm still going to release music. 920 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: Whether I make fifty dollars or fifty thousand dollars, it 921 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 2: actually doesn't matter to me anymore. And it's really solidified 922 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 2: the fact that I don't want a life without music 923 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 2: and I always do want to write music, perform music, 924 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 2: or whatever it is within the music industry and money, yeah, 925 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's a byproduct for me. I can, 926 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 2: you know, potentially make money in other avenues of the 927 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 2: music industry or from editing work or podcasts or whatever 928 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, I'll just focus on that. But yeah, 929 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: until the music industry recovers, I'll still do my thing. 930 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: I'll still write, I still release music. 931 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: And maybe movie scores, boss or sound. 932 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's my dream. I'd love to do that. 933 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe one day if they'll let me out 934 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: of Australia. 935 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So on to fun birthday things. What are you 936 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 1: planning to do for your actual birthday? Or be super 937 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: low key because of lockdown? Will still be in lockdown. 938 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. So we're meant to be getting out 939 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 2: on the tenth of September. I think it is. 940 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: Six days before your big day. 941 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. If we are out, I'm going to 942 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 2: have some. 943 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: Friends over having negronie or two. 944 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 2: We're going to have a negronie station. We're gonna maybe 945 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: a late afternoon thing. 946 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: That's cool. 947 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe do that if not. Honestly, I'm totally happy 948 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: to do my own thing. Absolutely, I'm not worried at all. 949 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't feel sad about it. I'm so so fine. 950 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 2: Whether I have friends around me or not, it doesn't 951 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 2: bother me this year cool as long as I get 952 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: a FaceTime from. 953 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: The Boss and your package. I've seen your package. It 954 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: should arrive before the big day. 955 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 2: Ah, well, who knows, but thank you. And I haven't 956 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: brought you anything though I sold. It's all right, Boss, 957 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: I know what you want, so I'll pay for it, 958 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 2: but I'm not there to actually buy it for you. 959 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: So my plan for my birthday is I think I 960 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 1: might take myself down to Rodeo Drive. 961 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 2: Oh drive, Get I haven't lost your Bogan accent though, 962 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. 963 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: Get myself a little presently. So we're actually going to plan, 964 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: provided I get to Australia and get out of quarantine 965 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: in time, we're going to plan to celebrate our birthday. 966 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: I've got you to put aside the sixteenth of October, 967 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 1: exactly a month after your real birthday, and I've got 968 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: a surprise for you that will be revealed when you 969 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: open your package from America that I'm saying. 970 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 2: Are we going back to Gya wells to know this? 971 00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:02,280 Speaker 1: You can't ruin surprises like this. So we're celebrating our birthday, 972 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: but a month later. So also, the day after I 973 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: get out of quarantine is our three anniversary. Any plans 974 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: for that, Boss. 975 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 2: Not as yet, but I have put a reminder in 976 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 2: my diary there's a new beach I want to go, 977 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: try and find beach. 978 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: Date would be great, bosscar I haven't been in the 979 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: ocean the whole time i've been here. 980 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're doing that. I swim all winter. 981 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: All the secret beaches in Byron. Sign me up. Okay, 982 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: I've got some quick fire questions for you. 983 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 2: You're ready, and then let's wrap up quick. 984 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh so I have not been answering four year long 985 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: question answers. 986 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 2: That's you too much. 987 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: Answers out quick quick fire. Are you ready? 988 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready. 989 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: Favor movie. 990 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: In the last couple of years the gentleman. 991 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh, now you're selling my answers. Not that I don't 992 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: even if I'm going to be answering this because you 993 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: haven't asked a favor animal No idea, Frank the Italian 994 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: greyhound Max May's pooch. 995 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 2: Not too hard? Too hard, because I want to say dolphins. 996 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 2: I want to say Wales, I want to say dogs. 997 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: I want to say you get one day, sir. 998 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: You're breaking all the rules right now. 999 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know that. Like I'm a lover, I 1000 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 2: love all. 1001 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I should. You can answer me. I'm 1002 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: going to ask myself favorite or whale questions. I want 1003 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: to swim gentlemen, and you stole that from me. Okay, 1004 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: so well likeily second favorite blood Diamond? Yeah okay, Oh wow, 1005 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: I knew about to say blood Diamond was. 1006 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 2: Okay? Next question? 1007 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: Next question is what show have you binged in Lockdown? 1008 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: I loved. 1009 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: I've been watching Is it Kingdom? The new season? Is Animal? 1010 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: Sorry? 1011 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: Animal Kingdom? Yeah, well that's one. 1012 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: Thing I'm pumped for for Foreign. 1013 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: Animal, Animal Kingdom, new season of Rick and Morty. I've 1014 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 2: rewatched Archer because there's a new season of Archer coming 1015 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,479 Speaker 2: into Wells. 1016 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: You're preparing you. 1017 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 2: What else? I've watched a couple of random other things. 1018 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 2: But no, that's it. That's it. 1019 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: Favorite movie score. 1020 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 2: No, I can't answer that. 1021 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you're such as. 1022 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 2: But I mean you like, there can't be one favorite 1023 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 2: movie score. 1024 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: No, but you can be like, at the moment, I 1025 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: am listening to Black At. 1026 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: The moment, I'm not listening to movie scores. I'm listening 1027 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: to a band called Royal Blood. So no, But I 1028 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: tell you, actually, one score that I I've gone back 1029 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,720 Speaker 2: and listened to again recently is what's his name, Johan 1030 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 2: gora Son that did Black Panther. 1031 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1032 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 2: I did listen to that again recently, and I was like, 1033 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: oh god, this is good. 1034 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: It's just been pulled off Spotify? 1035 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 2: Has it? Really? 1036 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: Why every now and then they pull really good things 1037 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: off Spotify. 1038 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know why they put it back on. 1039 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: But if you've heard it recently because I tried to 1040 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: listen to it recently, or it could because I'm in 1041 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: a different territory. 1042 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 2: To you, Yeah, maybe, But yeah. I did listen to 1043 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 2: that again recently and I loved it. And also I 1044 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 2: really want some more Marvel movies to come out. 1045 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite Marvel character? 1046 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 2: Bos? You know what, I just love it all. I 1047 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 2: don't know, of course, I don't. I know. You like 1048 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 2: Winter Soldier, that's so gorgeous. It's because you have the 1049 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: hots for him. 1050 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: Stand Sebastian Sebastian Sania. 1051 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 2: That was yeah. No, I like being to Soldier too. 1052 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: You don't like winters Soldier. 1053 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 2: I like him, but I'm not like I don't like 1054 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 2: Froth fucking Froth him. 1055 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, Black Widow yeah, Scarros. 1056 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Scarro's good. She's not an epic character though, she's 1057 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: noting like my favorite. 1058 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: Character, Captain America. 1059 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I still I love Robert Downey Jr. Oh 1060 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 2: iron Man, Yeah, iron Man, So he kind of becomes 1061 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: one of my. 1062 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: Favorite Oh cool, that makes sense. Celebrity crush mm hmm. 1063 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: Gwyneth, yeah, I knew it. I don't know this. I 1064 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,439 Speaker 2: mean there's so many, but yeah, give us the top three. No, 1065 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 2: let's just go with go with Grenneth. I'll tell you why, 1066 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah you go, no go Oh I watched I can't 1067 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: believe I'm even revealing this about myself. But I watched 1068 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 2: that terrible remake of She's All That. You remember that 1069 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: movie She's All That and it's called All That, and 1070 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 2: the girl nat I was, who's I would definitely not 1071 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 2: be attracted to. I was oddly attracted to by the 1072 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 2: into the movie. And that's good. 1073 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: That's the cheek that was the lead from She's All That, 1074 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: like twenty years ago. 1075 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 2: Right. No, so the girl that was a lead from 1076 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 2: She's All That actually plays the mum in the new movie, 1077 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 2: and there's a new girl who's like a new age influencer, 1078 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 2: beauty influencer, TikTok instagrammar. But by the end of the movie, 1079 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: I kind of got sucked into like this teenage romance 1080 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, okay, maybe you know, hang. 1081 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: On, is she like sixteen and you're attractors? Well? 1082 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 2: Who knows? But only let you don't think about that. 1083 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: They have a go at me the other day for 1084 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: saying someone that was hot was twenty seven and I'm 1085 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: thirty five. 1086 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 2: Who did I say that about. 1087 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I should say. 1088 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: It on the potto Ah someone we know, bro. 1089 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:49,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, But my point is you're like, no, lolls, that's 1090 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: been too much for the age gap. 1091 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I said that, but look in my head I was. 1092 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, it's a movie, so if she 1093 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: even if she is playing a seventeen year old, no, 1094 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 2: eighteen in their eighteen because they're seniors so high school, 1095 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: they're graduating from high school. But I was like, in 1096 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: real life, she's got to be you know, twenty five 1097 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 2: or twenty six. That's fine. 1098 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,959 Speaker 1: Oh so different set rules for you versus me. Yeah, 1099 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: of course, that's totally sexist. 1100 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm joking. Boss, You've got crushes on heaps of like 1101 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 2: young guys and I don't care. 1102 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I always google the age that the 1103 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: youngest is twenty seven. 1104 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha. I don't think I could date anyone under 1105 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 2: thirty anymore. Now. 1106 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that you say that, boss, famous last words, 1107 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: famous last words, fucking out. Well, when we got together, 1108 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: you had three girls on the go and one was 1109 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: nineteen Am I right or am I wrong? 1110 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty something like that? Why do you every episode 1111 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 2: you throw me under the bus? 1112 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: No, Boss, I don't. I'm just making a point that 1113 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: you have double expectations on ages for I actually don't 1114 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: have crush. 1115 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. You know, I don't care. I'm 1116 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 2: the least jealous person in the entire world. 1117 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you. You actually are the least jealous 1118 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: person in the entire world. I'm just saying that like 1119 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: a girl saying that a twenty seven year old is hot. 1120 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: It's that's not that's not off. Like that is totally fine. 1121 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. 1122 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 2: Totally fine. I know, I just say what you said. No, 1123 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 2: I just like to give you shit about it. But yes, 1124 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 2: if you want to get serious for a minute, then yes, 1125 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 2: you can do whatever you want or date whoever you 1126 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 2: want at any age. 1127 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: This is just a celebrity crush topic. You are aware. 1128 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 2: This is what I know. I know, I know, I know. 1129 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: So fine. Or one favorite date, idea favorite date? 1130 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: Idea yeah, or like for someone to take me or 1131 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 2: for me to take someone. 1132 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: Column and Columbee give it to pronged answer. 1133 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Me one simplest. So someone that's gone out and got 1134 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: my favorite cheese and olives and crackers, oh yeah, bowl 1135 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 2: of wine put you know, and taken me to a 1136 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 2: beach and done that I think, and a. 1137 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Little bit of like sweetened at the end. With a 1138 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: little bit of one toos. 1139 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh that's very rude, boss. 1140 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: I know the way you work. 1141 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm the simplest person. 1142 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Which is your language of love is acts of service? 1143 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Is not so if you've gone and you know, actually 1144 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 2: bought something that I enjoy, so thoughts gone into that, 1145 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: which is you know a little bit of cheese or 1146 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 2: nice olives or whatever it is, that's going to mean 1147 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 2: more to me than an expensive present or an expensive 1148 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 2: date or an adventure or anything like that. Which is 1149 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 2: I see your face and you've gone and bought something expensive. Fuck, 1150 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 2: I know I know. 1151 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: You well because my language of love. 1152 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: Is what I know is it's gift giving. 1153 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally okay, So what about your ideal date for 1154 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: if you were taking someone on a date. So that's 1155 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the other half of the question. 1156 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Look, I think that I would probably do the same. 1157 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 2: I would find out you know, what they really love 1158 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 2: or their passions are. 1159 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Or me and it's me. Yeah, this isn't a road 1160 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: test for the bachelor. Boss. 1161 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: You like the same thing that I like. We do 1162 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 2: like that beach adventure or animals. 1163 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I like animal adventures. 1164 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've taken you on animals. We did like animal enclosures. 1165 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: We did all those things. Cats yeah, limas me cats yeah. 1166 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 2: So I knew that you love those things, so I 1167 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 2: was like, that's your passion, that's what you love. That'll 1168 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 2: make you happy, So organize that few. But also it's 1169 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 2: a great day. I loved it. 1170 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. It was a lot 1171 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: of fun. 1172 01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. 1173 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: That was all my questions for you there, Boss Onano's 1174 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: and I feel like we had absolutely zero filter, so 1175 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: hopefully people feel like they're a real, a real honest taste. 1176 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: I think we don't really have filter at all. 1177 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: We absolutely do not Like I didn't do a lot. 1178 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: I remembered as we were doing this last time, I 1179 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: actually had to call out on Instagrams like what do 1180 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: you want Boss and I to answer? And I didn't 1181 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 1: do that this time because I thought that the long 1182 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: distance interview would be of interest to people, because the 1183 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: most common question I get asked is like, are you 1184 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: missing Boss? Are you how are you coping with that? Boss? 1185 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: And I thought, well, fuck, we should just interview each 1186 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 1: other about it and how we're feeling. And like, I 1187 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: think because you and I have therapists, we have a 1188 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: very healthy relationship around like our honest relationship and it 1189 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: is it does. I know you say you don't feel 1190 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: grown up, but I feel like our relationship like is 1191 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: very healthy and very honest and quite adult because we do. 1192 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 1: We have grown up together through therapy. 1193 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 2: Totally, totally, totally. I don't think that we we don't 1194 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: let any issues go unaddressed. We don't let anything fester. 1195 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,959 Speaker 2: We don't. I mean, I don't feel angry at you ever, 1196 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 2: and I because I'm a great girl, yeah, but I mean, 1197 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 2: like you piss me off, but I don't ever feel anger. 1198 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 2: I don't ever feel angry, which I think is a 1199 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 2: pretty incredible thing to feel. So you can be like, 1200 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 2: oh fuck, you're like you're annoy me, but it's never anger. 1201 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't feel anger. 1202 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, same, I would say I have never. I don't 1203 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: think I've ever felt anger towards you. I don't think 1204 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 1: I've felt I think we probably frustrate one another and 1205 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: like push each other's buttons every now and then, but 1206 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: I think ultimately, like there is a deep, deep respect 1207 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: and that is what sets this tone of like the 1208 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: ability to hold space, the ability to emotionally support one another, 1209 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and it's this very honest love I would say totally. 1210 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: And a few people have obviously asked me about the 1211 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: long distance thing, and you're doing what you're doing, and 1212 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 2: I said, from the moment I met you, I only 1213 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 2: wanted you the best for you and wanted you to 1214 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 2: succeed and go after your dreams and do what you 1215 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 2: wanted to do. So when you have that intention in 1216 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 2: someone's life and they go off and go overseas or 1217 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: travel or tour or do whatever thing, it's like, there's 1218 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 2: no problem with it because that's what you want for 1219 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 2: that person. 1220 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that, like that's so awesome, but 1221 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: it's also easier said than done, and you've done it perfectly, 1222 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Like I think it's one thing to say it and 1223 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: another thing like I've dated people before that have been 1224 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: super intimidated and not supportive of all of my career choices, 1225 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: and you're the opposite. You'll look so supportive, And as 1226 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: am I a view, I would say, like, I really 1227 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: think that you you. I think you're going to end 1228 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: up doing scores like movie scores. 1229 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 2: And also you've hung out with guys and I couldn't 1230 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 2: give a flying fuck, and I've got female friends here, 1231 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 2: and you. 1232 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Don't like a little jealous. 1233 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Let's call Yeah, but I mean, like, you know the difference. 1234 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: You know, I get more. Not yeah, I'd never. So 1235 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: here's my thing, Like I have all trust in you. 1236 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't always trust females much, which is my own 1237 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: probably my own shit, But like I have, so I 1238 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: have one thousand mazillion percent trust in you. But yeah, 1239 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: you get hang on even though I hang out with guys, 1240 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm mainly hanging out with gay guys. Am I not? 1241 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 2: Did you get hang out with a guy that you've 1242 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 2: been on a date with? 1243 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Nah, that never happened. I never eventuated, which I'm fine with, 1244 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, Boss was like, so this person 1245 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I went on a date with like five years ago. 1246 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: It was like I'm in La, you're in La. Can 1247 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: we get a coffee? And I was like, Boss, what 1248 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: do you think? And you were like, go for it? 1249 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I don't really want to 1250 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: do if it feels icky, but we'd have but this 1251 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,439 Speaker 1: full premise, this conversation, We've been on date five years ago, 1252 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I'd been back three years ago and we'd hung out 1253 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: as friends and had a coffee on that three year visits, 1254 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: so we'd kind of recalibrated the friendship. 1255 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: Friendship. The fact that I asked and checked in is 1256 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 2: why we have a healthy relationship, as I check in 1257 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 2: with you when I do, even though you know all 1258 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 2: the girls that I hang out with or I go 1259 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 2: for walks with, I'm like, hey, FYI, I'm doing this, 1260 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 2: and we check in about it. 1261 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: And I still say sometimes if I'm not comfy though, 1262 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: at the. 1263 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 2: End of the day, like it't stopped me from doing anything, 1264 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 2: because you know that we're good anyway, Yes, very true. 1265 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 2: We're like an hour and seven minutes or something. 1266 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 1: Holy macrel. All right, I love you. I love you, Bossachenhi. 1267 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: Hopefully I get to see you in real life very soon. 1268 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you, Yes, I do all right, big. 1269 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Love everybody, and hope you enjoy this chat with the 1270 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: Bossachenki and myself. 1271 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 2: Okay, love you by love you boy. 1272 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 1273 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 1274 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word 1275 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. 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