Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: gossip coin of the Airways, the Hostess with the Most
Speaker 1: us and soon to be Ricky Lee, and Natalie Bassingthwaite's
Speaker 1: best friend. I will probably need to explain that in
Speaker 1: the podcast. This week we will go deep on episode
Speaker 1: fifteen of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season fourteen,
Speaker 1: which is correctly titled Trouble in Paradise. We are kind
Speaker 1: of back agreeing of the pacing of this episode, and
Speaker 1: I have to say that while Durton PK looks set
Speaker 1: to go to war, Kyle and Moe are still battling
Speaker 1: it out for their friendship, there's actually a lot to
Speaker 1: unpack there. We will discuss the way on which Erica
Speaker 1: has been recruited by Deret and Bosma, including what we
Speaker 1: think of a potential new Fox Falls five friend group.
Speaker 1: I will get Alana's perspective on Bozma's red flags with
Speaker 1: old mate and her potential new alliance with Kyle Richards.
Speaker 1: We will address the fact that Garsell shone some light
Speaker 1: into Sutton's jealousy with Derete and Kyle finally being able
Speaker 1: to address a huge elephant in the room. You were
Speaker 1: going to get plenty of chat on the girl's trip,
Speaker 1: what we think of them all flying in what looked
Speaker 1: like coach and we will also debate who is paying
Speaker 1: for these girls trips? Is it Bravo? Is it the
Speaker 1: women who knows? There's actually so much to talk about
Speaker 1: with so many revelations from Alana and Ice perspective, So guys,
Speaker 1: sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world
Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season fourteen, Episode fifteen, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: Coffee in tow Is that coffee number one? Coffee number
Speaker 1: two or coffee number three?
Speaker 2: This is the third, which look probably is one too many.
Speaker 3: See how that goes. I just feel like I.
Speaker 2: Could be a brand ambassador for Espresso at this point,
Speaker 2: like alongside George Clooney.
Speaker 1: They would be lucky to have you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I almost smash out into the microphone.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine what's George Clooney's wife's name?
Speaker 3: So it's not too far from Milana.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you My favorite thing that I did
Speaker 1: today was that I went to send the notes You're
Speaker 1: going to die about today's episode, and I emailed Alan
Speaker 1: oh oh no in my list. I don't know Alan
Speaker 1: very well. Alan, which I had never realized, is just
Speaker 1: Alana without the A.
Speaker 3: He just learned all about the Real Housewives. He's had
Speaker 3: a real crash course.
Speaker 1: And you know the notes that I write are basically
Speaker 1: scribble from a primary school kid.
Speaker 2: Well, there's also some stuff in there that you just
Speaker 2: drop in the context, like I'm so hungover, I'm really
Speaker 2: drunk still from the weekend, like things that are just
Speaker 2: for me, not necessarily to even chat through the podcast.
Speaker 1: I love that all of the notes involved me being
Speaker 1: an absolute mess. I'm a big mess.
Speaker 2: They always give me a laugh, they always and then
Speaker 2: do you know what, I shut the notes down and
Speaker 2: I just let you take it wherever you want to
Speaker 2: take it, because you are the wiz, you Harvey, conversational wizard.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't talk enough about the Academy Awards.
Speaker 1: How weird was it that they decided to do those
Speaker 1: homages to the original, you know, Wizard of Oz universe.
Speaker 1: It was great every time it was a Wizard of
Speaker 1: Oz song, but when it was a Wiz song, which
Speaker 1: was the we were like, no one knows about the Wiz,
Speaker 1: Like I can tell you the three people three rows
Speaker 1: deep of me, no one knew what those songs were.
Speaker 1: And it had to be like a friend of mine
Speaker 1: who texted me and said, what an amazing opening sequence
Speaker 1: and a beautiful tribute to the Wiz, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're joking.
Speaker 2: Oh, the one that was all the montage and then
Speaker 2: it went into Ariana and Cynthia. Yeah, oh yeah, Well
Speaker 2: I didn't mind that so much. But I'll tell you
Speaker 2: the one that was weird was that James Bond tribute.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell is going on? Why
Speaker 2: is Margaret Coully from the Substance suddenly doing a ballroom
Speaker 2: dancing routine?
Speaker 3: It was very confusing.
Speaker 1: It was very confusing. It was like she came out
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is nice. I guess I guess
Speaker 1: they wanted something for her to do. And then you
Speaker 1: were kind of like, hang in a second, who were
Speaker 1: these other singers? Is I was expecting for you to
Speaker 1: come out and sing?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I probably could have given what was going on up
Speaker 2: at that stage, I would never take Synthia on. I
Speaker 2: reckon I could have taken those Bond people on.
Speaker 1: Remember wedding karaoke. I could imagine, Oh yes, yeah, defying
Speaker 1: gravity in your web.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: After the wedding, my dad came up to me and
Speaker 2: was like, did I just pay fifty thousand dollars for
Speaker 2: you to have your own concert? Like it's literally his
Speaker 2: takeaway from the night. He was like, I don't think
Speaker 2: this was a wedding. I think this was a big
Speaker 2: ruse for you to get one hundred people in a
Speaker 2: room and make them watch you like it was a show.
Speaker 1: Everyone loved it, though, like in a gown with goodiful
Speaker 1: because it was your wedding gown and the song's perfection.
Speaker 1: At one point you cribbed me to get me to
Speaker 1: be a part of the song, but it was more
Speaker 1: like a headlock in a foot match, and you called
Speaker 1: me in a When you realize they got one word wrong,
Speaker 1: you pushed me away. Did it disappear amateur?
Speaker 3: You're peasant?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were a good one for the karaoke. Some
Speaker 2: people that didn't want to participate, they hung out in
Speaker 2: the balcony, and you know what, that's fine.
Speaker 1: They weren't even smokers, but they were all in the
Speaker 1: smokers pure fear. Like just every song with perfection, I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, she's going to put the microphone down,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you'd hear the backing
Speaker 1: track to or Whitney song coming, and you've been around,
Speaker 1: I'm back, back, back back again.
Speaker 2: Beyond call that no one's asking for, but here it
Speaker 2: is everyone. P number seventy five is up.
Speaker 1: Okay, Housewives? Yes, I think it was good thinking Yes,
Speaker 1: me too, it was good. Okay, great, so we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back with this. So episode fifteen, this, as we
Speaker 1: were saying, is a sort of a return to form.
Speaker 1: I know you were sort of saying that it was
Speaker 1: picking itself up, but I kind of felt like with
Speaker 1: this one it was a bit more Housewives. It did
Speaker 1: feel as though they were like, are we going on
Speaker 1: this trip? In this episode, Like it felt like every
Speaker 1: ad break or sort of moment where you would be
Speaker 1: coming back from an ad break, we would be seeing
Speaker 1: the girls trip start. And it did seem like they
Speaker 1: held that off for quite a while.
Speaker 2: Yes, but do you know what I loved And it's
Speaker 2: sort of like in real life when you know you've
Speaker 2: got a trip coming, and there's the anticipation and you're like,
Speaker 2: a couple of days to the trip, I'm going to pack,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do my ten like all the things,
Speaker 2: and it's that slow build up is half the fun.
Speaker 3: Of the cast trip. So I actually didn't mind that
Speaker 3: that had.
Speaker 2: Sort of, you know, a bit of a sort of
Speaker 2: woven thread through every scene because you knew that was
Speaker 2: coming and they were all going to be together, and
Speaker 2: that just those first visual scenes of Saint Lucia, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I want to book this
Speaker 2: trip immediately.
Speaker 3: We're finally getting some opulents.
Speaker 1: Except for the fact that they, for some reason, for
Speaker 1: the first time in Real Housewives of Beverly Hill's history,
Speaker 1: they were all flying economy. I don't know what was
Speaker 1: going on here. They flashed to Jennifer Tilly and she
Speaker 1: looked like, am I on the set of a movie?
Speaker 1: What is going on here? What's this?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 2: I was waiting for Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City
Speaker 2: to rock up and be like, I haven't flown coach
Speaker 2: since I was in college. I am not sitting in
Speaker 2: seat seventeen. See where was Lisa Barlow? She would have
Speaker 2: sort of that shit right out.
Speaker 1: You know that people tag her, people tag her when
Speaker 1: they sit in that same seat.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, say genius, it's actually genius.
Speaker 1: She's great on that show. She does look like, you know,
Speaker 1: like a Royal Melbourne show balloon animals being slightly let
Speaker 1: out just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh you are into it already, honey, and the fur
Speaker 2: is flying from Benjamin Norris.
Speaker 1: That show would not be the same without her, Like
Speaker 1: she is phenomenal on that show.
Speaker 2: We will do Redcaps of Salt Lake City next season.
Speaker 2: One hundred is that has literally taken over the Bravo universes.
Speaker 3: Like the Darling.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't think I could get into another
Speaker 1: Housewive series this late in my life, but I mean, it's.
Speaker 2: Got it all. It just delivers week after week after week.
Speaker 2: They've just got the formula just down. Anyway, back to
Speaker 2: our original love.
Speaker 1: Speaking of people that we would be friends with, Erica Jane,
Speaker 1: I feel like you and I would be friends with it.
Speaker 1: Ereka Jane. How is she being pulled into this direete
Speaker 1: Bo's universe? Because when they came over to her house,
Speaker 1: she kind of was like, hey, girls, thanks for coming over,
Speaker 1: But like secretly, I'm really better friends with Kyle, and
Speaker 1: probably three seasons it goes Housewives Teddy Mellencamp and Lisa,
Speaker 1: Rinna and all those other people.
Speaker 3: Three of us are together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got our villa, but she's being pulled into that.
Speaker 1: And I don't like it. I don't you don't like it.
Speaker 2: I feel like the three of them, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: is this going to be a little bit new Fox
Speaker 2: Force five? Like I was honestly thinking that when I
Speaker 2: was watching it, and they were so excited that they
Speaker 2: were all going to be in the same room together
Speaker 2: and all of that on the.
Speaker 3: Trip, and I thought, oh.
Speaker 2: I actually was left wondering. I wonder where Kyle was
Speaker 2: going to fit into this equation. But I think because
Speaker 2: she's got the safety net of Kathy this season, she's
Speaker 2: sort of a little bit allowed to float between the
Speaker 2: different groups.
Speaker 3: But I definitely feel like Eric has.
Speaker 2: Been a bit more on line to Derete this season,
Speaker 2: and I feel like in terms of personality, her and
Speaker 2: Bows are very compatible because there's straight shooters and no bullshit,
Speaker 2: and I feel like they're really going to bond over that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's play a game. You're going away to
Speaker 1: Saint Lucia.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, we're already the great game, great gas game ever.
Speaker 1: And you get told you're in one of these rooms,
Speaker 1: so you get given the garcel sudden Jennifer Tilly room.
Speaker 1: You're disappointed. I don't know. You told me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would not appreciate being in that room.
Speaker 1: I'd need those pills in that suitcase to.
Speaker 2: Be There was a second where I saw the pills
Speaker 2: all spilled in the bag and I actually thought they
Speaker 2: were pills until she said they were candy. I was like,
Speaker 2: good God, what is going on and how did you
Speaker 2: get it all through customs?
Speaker 3: Oh no, mister Bill, I'm panicking.
Speaker 2: The idea of being without my candy for the next
Speaker 2: three or four days is very true to me.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for it to pull out a little
Speaker 1: note from Lisa Rinner.
Speaker 2: You'll need these, Yeah, this is a lot of hormone
Speaker 2: replacement therapy.
Speaker 1: You get asked to be in the derete Erica Bow's room,
Speaker 1: you'd be I think you'd be fine with that.
Speaker 3: You'd probaps, that would be Yeah, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: I'm going Kathy Hilton, Kyle Richards. I'd be in that
Speaker 1: room and no other room.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I would like the Erica Derete one. I
Speaker 2: feel like that would be a bit more high energy.
Speaker 2: And I just imagine Bos all night with that.
Speaker 1: Oh how much have you been doing that in the
Speaker 1: real world, because I'm doing it recently and now that
Speaker 1: I make those noises and people that I know don't
Speaker 1: watch the show, they just look at me like, is
Speaker 1: there something wrong with you? What?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 2: You can't be doing that? Yeah, it's iconic, like so good.
Speaker 2: Like I'm obsessed with Bos. I've gone in and out
Speaker 2: with bows, and I just if we could just get
Speaker 2: rid of the storyline with her boyfriend who needs to go,
Speaker 2: I'd be loving, Like every time I see her on
Speaker 2: the screen, I'm loving her actions. But when she gets
Speaker 2: her own storyline where she's with the sad daughter and
Speaker 2: the sad boyfriend, I'm like, no, oh, well, I quite
Speaker 2: like her daughter. But that dinner, I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you want to get to that now. At
Speaker 2: that dinner, I've been the one that's saying a few
Speaker 2: red flags, like minor, You've been the one that's like,
Speaker 2: I don't like the look of any of this. I'm
Speaker 2: feeling uncomfortable about it. I've got major red flags and
Speaker 2: I was like, Ah, I think you're overreacting this dinner
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 3: And Kiley and Lael.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, no, honey, it's not it the
Speaker 2: fact that the fifteen year old daughter was asking questions
Speaker 2: about living together, the engagement, how many kids they want
Speaker 2: to have, and she just kept looking at him like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what do you want
Speaker 2: to say and let him answer everything.
Speaker 3: They had not discussed any of that.
Speaker 4: Kyle and Durte having beef helps Sutton and Kyle have
Speaker 4: a better relationship, right, because it's like now can get
Speaker 4: in with Kyle even more, and I think it's all
Speaker 4: what is once she wants to be really good friends
Speaker 4: with Kayle.
Speaker 3: They hadn't discovered so awkward.
Speaker 1: The only question she didn't ask was what's what's this
Speaker 1: man's name? Like she was running down the list of
Speaker 1: things that you would definitely have worked out by now.
Speaker 1: And the fact that we had a piece to camera
Speaker 1: where she's confessed, oh. It was the conversation with other
Speaker 1: women where they were like, oh, it's a bit strange.
Speaker 1: We haven't said I love you yet, but we're having
Speaker 1: a baby at fifty And also he looks like he's
Speaker 1: on a dating app the entire time he is talking,
Speaker 1: you know, like those people that have just got the
Speaker 1: dating app on the.
Speaker 3: Stoe a glance, always the glance.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't work out, it's okay, because I'm already
Speaker 1: talking to Patricia who's from Pocious. How awkward it will
Speaker 1: be making sure?
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just was like, oh, this is not good. Like
Speaker 2: the fact they hadn't discussed any of these the fact
Speaker 2: that she was so scared to ask, Like she's so direct,
Speaker 2: yet with him, she's so scared to ask these questions.
Speaker 2: She was letting him lead all the answers. It was like,
Speaker 2: you know, where are we going to move? Are we
Speaker 2: going to move to San Diego? I think is where
Speaker 2: he's from. And she was just defaulting to him to
Speaker 2: answer all of that, and I thought, oh god, Like
Speaker 2: when you're starting to pull yourself back that much.
Speaker 3: And the multiple kids question, I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 3: know if they can have.
Speaker 1: One multiple children?
Speaker 3: What multiple children? And then there was just so many
Speaker 3: there were so many flags on display there. Do you
Speaker 3: guys think that you like move in together, like before
Speaker 3: I not married?
Speaker 5: Well that's a tough question because have I lived with
Speaker 5: somebody before marriage, Yes, but I think in this case
Speaker 5: I would probably wait well.
Speaker 2: And also when he walked in and he said to Layel,
Speaker 2: remember when I met you in Ganda?
Speaker 3: Did you think I was cool? And my thought, oh,
Speaker 3: what is that your first.
Speaker 2: Thought to have a fifteen year old's approval on whether
Speaker 2: you were cool?
Speaker 3: I just oh God. I like that he bought her flowers.
Speaker 3: I thought that was sweet, loved it. But everything after that,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, oh god, oh god, oh god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the scene should have finished with just her picking
Speaker 1: up the flowers and just putting them in the trash can,
Speaker 1: like that should have just been the end of it.
Speaker 3: I just yeah, all the best, but I'm worried.
Speaker 1: I think what worked for me in Bosa's contribution in
Speaker 1: this episode is her going over to see Kyle, because
Speaker 1: that's a friendship dynamic that I think could work, and
Speaker 1: I could honestly see bos being able to help Kyle
Speaker 1: in a way that some of the other women haven't
Speaker 1: been able to do it. What is your read on
Speaker 1: how that played out?
Speaker 2: Oh, I absolutely loved that scene. I think Kyle being
Speaker 2: so vulnerable given that she'd kind of had her guard
Speaker 2: up about Bo's That moment was so authentic and so
Speaker 2: real between them and both sort of looking at her
Speaker 2: without any judgment but being like, girl, I'm here, like
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go to war as a friend, I'm
Speaker 2: sitting here on your couch. I've been where you are.
Speaker 2: Let's like, you know, get through this, like you can
Speaker 2: tell me what you want to say. And I just
Speaker 2: feel like that is a friendship that I want to
Speaker 2: see more of. And I feel like they have both
Speaker 2: navigated that misunderstanding of where they're at with grace.
Speaker 3: And I just loved it. I really did. He feels
Speaker 3: bad enough as it is. I know he feels horrible.
Speaker 3: I know him well enough to know.
Speaker 1: That, Well, why is it?
Speaker 3: Because he feels like you're embarrassed?
Speaker 1: Like what is it? Some of the best relationships in
Speaker 1: this series have ended up being people that didn't mesh
Speaker 1: well to start with, you know, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's probably what we're going to see with these two women.
Speaker 1: I think they probably just needed to find their footing
Speaker 1: with how it was going to work and what they
Speaker 1: could bring to that kind of a friendship. But I
Speaker 1: don't feel like we're getting a repeat of a dynamic
Speaker 1: that already exists. I actually feel like Bosemark has a
Speaker 1: lot that she can say to Kyle in a way
Speaker 1: that's going to land differently.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think the fact that Darit and
Speaker 2: Kyle are in a better place is going to allow
Speaker 2: for that. I think seems, you know, she's a loyal friend,
Speaker 2: as is Kyle, but because there's been you know, the
Speaker 2: animosity between Kyle and Dereitch, she's naturally sort of fallen
Speaker 2: a bit more to Derete's side. But now that has
Speaker 2: resolved itself, I think there's going to be room for
Speaker 2: growth within that friendship as a three and also the
Speaker 2: friendship as a two with Kyle and Bose separately. And
Speaker 2: I am here for it. And that is the kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff we want to see play out.
Speaker 1: Although I just I'm going to predict something here. Love
Speaker 1: hate can be very similar emotions, and I think that
Speaker 1: Bozma jumped into that relationship with Dereit way too fast,
Speaker 1: and I think there's going to be some interesting dynamics
Speaker 1: that comes off the back of that. I think that
Speaker 1: Bozma obviously jumped on and was like, yep, you're my
Speaker 1: entry point to this girl group. To make it Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. However, dereite is not consistent enough for
Speaker 1: someone like Boseman, Like could you imagine Bosema employing to
Speaker 1: read at work? She would have fired her by now
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean this is all where it gets interesting when
Speaker 2: we start looking down the barrel of where next season
Speaker 2: may go. And I think the fact that we're sort
Speaker 2: of getting a little bit of a change in dynamic
Speaker 2: with some of these women, it's going to pique our
Speaker 2: interest for next season and that's really what they need.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have two things that are epic about
Speaker 1: this episode because it's sort of been brewing. We've really
Speaker 1: needed to see to read back with PK. We've really
Speaker 1: needed to see Kyle with Mauricio. And I also need
Speaker 1: to learn how to say Marizio. So I need you
Speaker 1: just said it wrong, just to get what do I say, Marie?
Speaker 3: You say Maritzio like with a Z, but it's Maurice Cio.
Speaker 1: Like Maurisio ce for cat.
Speaker 2: I just don't know found the word out, Benjamin Mauricio,
Speaker 2: Mauricio Mauricio softer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 1: Okay, don't do the accent you've been canceled? Which one
Speaker 1: shall we talk about? Which hot mess do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about first? But these two, I.
Speaker 2: Think let's talk about to Read and PK because I
Speaker 2: thought it wasn't expecting that scene. They hadn't really promoted
Speaker 2: that much in the trailers, you know, for the season,
Speaker 2: whereas that Kyle and Mauricio moment, they've plugged that the
Speaker 2: whole time. So I sort of was surprised to see
Speaker 2: this PK injury restaurant chat, and holy shit, it's bad.
Speaker 1: It was bad, and like we saw him catch up
Speaker 1: with her earlier in the season episode two. If I
Speaker 1: checked my facts and he turned up looking good for PK,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like he looked like
Speaker 1: he had just been given a voucher for the gap
Speaker 1: and gone down to the Beverly Stone books that did
Speaker 1: not suit him. But his hair and his face and
Speaker 1: he looked okay. This time around, he looked like he
Speaker 1: was fresh from a bender. He was like sitting down
Speaker 1: and he did not look happy. He looked like you know,
Speaker 1: previously it looked like he was cashing in on still
Speaker 1: being a part of Housewives. This time he felt like
Speaker 1: he was being brought in at gunpoint, like he did
Speaker 1: not want to be talking to her, and also they
Speaker 1: didn't really complete the interaction that surely wasn't all that happened.
Speaker 1: They sat down and he was like, I don't drink anymore,
Speaker 1: but clearly I need to. She was like, I need
Speaker 1: the you know, standard carcass ound.
Speaker 3: What mocktails have you got? You don't know the venue
Speaker 3: for motels? Do you do a phony NIGRONI I can.
Speaker 4: Do that for your Yeah, is that what you d.
Speaker 3: Belvedere with klepsas lemon squeezed in?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll be right back with that, which I thought
Speaker 1: was really inappropriate. If your bestief, your ex husband, if
Speaker 1: actually anyone you've ever met you're going out to drink
Speaker 1: with and then you know they're an alcoholic, you just
Speaker 1: don't order a drink Ryan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she probably is like, well fuck you, Like
Speaker 2: I'm going to drink whatever I want and do whatever
Speaker 2: I want at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 2: I just I think when we talked earlier in the season,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of you know, stuff in the
Speaker 2: room or mill about whether this split was potentially a storyline,
Speaker 2: whether this was not legit, whether this was all playing
Speaker 2: out and they were both part of it, and we
Speaker 2: were the ones that were getting fooled, just so there
Speaker 2: would be some drama and Dreek could hold on too
Speaker 2: that diamond. And after watching this dinner, I was like,
Speaker 2: I do not buy that.
Speaker 3: This is so done.
Speaker 2: The anger, the animosity is so great between those two.
Speaker 2: I just do not see them coming back from this.
Speaker 2: That was like oil and water. They are on completely
Speaker 2: different pages. There was no sensitivity there, and I feel
Speaker 2: like it's going.
Speaker 3: To get really ugly.
Speaker 1: To me. I kind of felt like she seems a
Speaker 1: bit clueless, like as in, he looks like he's left
Speaker 1: and he's that's the path that he's going on, that
Speaker 1: he's out and he's gone, you know, like he's completed
Speaker 1: the race. And she's like, oh, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to order a drink. And what's happening? What about
Speaker 1: that email? Oh my god, the email that's a legal letter.
Speaker 1: He literally said in that email, which should have been
Speaker 1: titled fuck you, we're getting a divorce. And she's like,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I just didn't really see this divorce coming.
Speaker 1: Who are these women in these relationships, in these marriages
Speaker 1: of however long that they haven't realized that when they
Speaker 1: kick the man out of the house. That man is
Speaker 1: getting it from somewhere else, Like he's finished with you,
Speaker 1: He's gone to find the next woman who is going
Speaker 1: to look after him. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, look, he left her. I think
Speaker 2: this is different to the Kylo Mauricio thing. I think
Speaker 2: she kicked him out, but then she expected him to
Speaker 2: come back, and that's a whole other story. But in
Speaker 2: this one, I feel like, you know, I remember you
Speaker 2: mentioning earlier in the year when we talked about this,
Speaker 2: if someone's leaving that quickly, it's because they've already mentally
Speaker 2: been preparing for that for a long time. They've got
Speaker 2: a plan and they're out. And so to the other person,
Speaker 2: they're very blindsided by that, but really they're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: well this is just how it is, and they're out.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what she actually.
Speaker 2: Ended up saying in her confessional, and she said, you know,
Speaker 2: I just didn't see it coming, and I'm fifty steps behind,
Speaker 2: and this is where we are now. But there's absolutely
Speaker 2: no way those two are getting back together. And I
Speaker 2: do not believe that this was the storyline. I think
Speaker 2: it was like almost in a weird, awful way a
Speaker 2: little bit convenient for her, that is planning to her
Speaker 2: sort of having this renaissance, and that everyone's been so
Speaker 2: invested in.
Speaker 1: Her, she has locked herself down for more seasons, that
Speaker 1: is for sure, because you better believe that audiences are
Speaker 1: going to want to see Derete living in an apartment.
Speaker 1: We want to see that, you know, and we also
Speaker 1: want to see Erica Jane come around with her you know,
Speaker 1: camp room decorator and be like, hey, you want someone
Speaker 1: on a budget. This guy it's never been the same sense.
Speaker 2: It's a friend referral fee. It's like, oh, another woman
Speaker 2: with a divorce. You get ten percent off, Like.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be living in a place like
Speaker 1: Erica Jane. I can tell you that Erica Jane has
Speaker 1: a little bit of understanding about how to split a dime.
Speaker 1: Dereite has no idea. Like she's this woman from Connecticut
Speaker 1: whose mother and father has given her everything. I don't
Speaker 1: think she's had a hard day in her life. Erica
Speaker 1: Jane used to book. Basically, serf Hamburg is a strip
Speaker 1: joint outside of York City. She knows how to split
Speaker 1: a dime. Where Derete going into an apartment. She's going
Speaker 1: to be like, I wonder whether or not I should
Speaker 1: spend the only money I've still got left on some
Speaker 1: Chanel wallpaper. And then you go into her apartment and
Speaker 1: there'd be one wall and she kind of bought a
Speaker 1: fucking thing. She got two minute noodles in the kitchen
Speaker 1: and Jagger's like, Mum, we're going to live with PK. Goodbye.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, the audiences do like to
Speaker 2: see the grittiness, the rawness when it all all the
Speaker 2: facades go away and the mask falls down, and that
Speaker 2: is what we're getting. And you know, I think with
Speaker 2: the Mauriceo Kyle split, we're seeing the niceness, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: we saw those photos, but between them, the interactions have
Speaker 2: still be like hey, honey, and he comes in, he
Speaker 2: gives her a hug, and he's playing with the dogs,
Speaker 2: and he's helping himself to the cups of tea and
Speaker 2: they're still doing family vacas and we're not seeing any
Speaker 2: of that. But with this to Eat PK thing, we're
Speaker 2: getting a real glimpse into something that is going to
Speaker 2: be nasty.
Speaker 3: And even with the.
Speaker 2: Erica Tom split, obviously we never saw anything from Tom.
Speaker 2: We didn't see the interaction, so I think from a
Speaker 2: viewer point of view, we've never really had this in
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, where we're almost watching pretty ugly split play out.
Speaker 3: In real time.
Speaker 2: So I do think even though it's unfortunate and you
Speaker 2: wouldn't wish it upon anyone, let alone anyone with small
Speaker 2: children to be going through this, I think from a
Speaker 2: ratings point of view, they're going to skyrocket because people
Speaker 2: want to see the messiness.
Speaker 1: I think that they do. I'd love to get and
Speaker 1: next week, as we I think, are doing episode seventeen,
Speaker 1: we should have a look at the ratings and see
Speaker 1: what's happened, because I think that might be really interesting
Speaker 1: about the trajectory of what has happened in the evolution
Speaker 1: of this show, with housewives leaving, housewives staying, and a
Speaker 1: shift of I think some of the content points as well,
Speaker 1: like they definitely have listened to everyone about the opulence,
Speaker 1: so we do get to see whenever Durit turns up
Speaker 1: at any restaurant, and it's probably because she actually arrives
Speaker 1: two hours early and ask them to film at ninety
Speaker 1: five times. But she I loved why today feel bad
Speaker 1: because you just brought up something about the fact that
Speaker 1: this woman's getting a divorce and about the small children.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being way too savage, Like if
Speaker 1: anyone spoke about someone one of my friends the way
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this small situation, and I would
Speaker 1: come for them. But I guess it's TV, so I
Speaker 1: guess you know this is what we do. Don't get
Speaker 1: a conscience.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to need more botox and a
Speaker 1: face lift after the amount of tension I had on
Speaker 1: my face watching Kyle with Mauricio. Oh did I say
Speaker 1: his name right? Not really?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just gonna let it go because if we
Speaker 2: have to like Maria every time and give you a
Speaker 2: lesson Marie Cio Mauricio. Where Maurice is in can we
Speaker 2: could just call him Mo? Like Mo, just call him
Speaker 2: Mo bye and called bos bos Mo when he was
Speaker 2: walking around that kitchen was stressing me out. Neither of
Speaker 2: them wanted to talk about the elephant in the room,
Speaker 2: but they were like very respectful, Like Kyle was sitting
Speaker 2: there going, He's allowed to do this, so I'm not
Speaker 2: supposed to be angry.
Speaker 3: Seeing that photo of Mo.
Speaker 2: Was like, Okay, things have a change, and I don't
Speaker 2: know how he's going to be towards me now.
Speaker 1: So she was playing very much an adult, and I
Speaker 1: think he was also still playing very much an adult,
Speaker 1: and he was the person to acknowledge it. And I
Speaker 1: also have props for him for saying, I am sorry.
Speaker 1: You know obviously the Meeka knows. You know I got photographed,
Speaker 1: you know, in the airport.
Speaker 5: Do you know that I would never want to do
Speaker 5: or anything on purpose that would hurt you or the kids.
Speaker 1: I really am sorry for.
Speaker 3: You know, hurtying you.
Speaker 1: I would never want to hurt you on purpose. And
Speaker 1: he didn't say I'm sorry and I'm never doing this
Speaker 1: again kind of sorry. He acknowledged this as being hard
Speaker 1: for her, and he laid it out and he took accountability,
Speaker 1: and I thought, this is amazing. These two people are
Speaker 1: clearly still connected.
Speaker 2: I know it's really really hard to watch because I
Speaker 2: think as we've seen these episodes unfold and we've seen
Speaker 2: the journey, it's just become more and more evident she
Speaker 2: never planned for this to happen.
Speaker 3: I think she really on had a moment where she
Speaker 3: was like, that is it.
Speaker 2: Fuck you, I'm going to go out and give you
Speaker 2: a taste of your own medicine and expected that was
Speaker 2: going to be the catalyst for him to pollice finger
Speaker 2: out and come back and fight for her in an
Speaker 2: emotional way, and that it would be the turning point
Speaker 2: for their marriage to become bigger and stronger than ever.
Speaker 2: And the whole thing has backfired, and him and Pique
Speaker 2: they're out living like twenty year olds and finding other
Speaker 2: women and whatever, and she's watching her decision be thrown
Speaker 2: in her face and there is no way that man
Speaker 2: is coming back to her. But the way she hugs
Speaker 2: him with all her might, she just loves him so much,
Speaker 2: and I just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really feel I really feel for her.
Speaker 2: I don't know, we still understand his Morgan piece, but
Speaker 2: I still feel like she never expected he was just
Speaker 2: going to go okay, no worries and mosey on.
Speaker 1: She could be in the crosshairs of something here, which
Speaker 1: is where I'm starting to think it is. And that
Speaker 1: is the I think for her. She has spent so
Speaker 1: much time trying to present the perfect life and the
Speaker 1: perfect family, and it's not for us. She herself, after
Speaker 1: her upbringing and her struggles throughout all of that trouble,
Speaker 1: and if you hear about the three sisters upbringing, it
Speaker 1: is pretty hard to hear. She just chose to put
Speaker 1: up this relationship to say. She was like, I have
Speaker 1: come from this mess. I don't want that anymore. I've
Speaker 1: now held this thing up. And there's a difference between
Speaker 1: wanting to have an amazing relationship and actually having one.
Speaker 1: So I think that she didn't quite have. She may
Speaker 1: have checked out of that relationship with him, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, if you're not something, I think I honestly think
Speaker 2: there was stuff happening that we heard all those rumors,
Speaker 2: and like Kathy said, well we never.
Speaker 3: Knew for sure because no one came forward.
Speaker 2: Kyle was a woman of integrity, and I think there
Speaker 2: was a point where she's like, I've taken it.
Speaker 3: I've taken it. I've covered for you, I've hidden things.
Speaker 2: I've had to put my own head on my pillow
Speaker 2: at night and pretend things didn't happen.
Speaker 3: And there was a moment.
Speaker 2: Where she obviously got pushed too far. I was like,
Speaker 2: I have to stand up for myself. I can't allow
Speaker 2: this behavior for whatever reason. And I've got four daughters,
Speaker 2: and what example am I setting if I just keep
Speaker 2: turning a blind eye to this man's actions.
Speaker 3: This is all conjecture, but this is my take.
Speaker 2: And now she is in the midst of going would
Speaker 2: I have done the same thing or would it have
Speaker 2: been better to just continue living the life? And I
Speaker 2: think she's watching it play out in real time, and
Speaker 2: I think she's honestly questioning her decision, even though she
Speaker 2: wouldn't admit to that, because I think people be like, well, no,
Speaker 2: you know you've done the right thing. If he wasn't
Speaker 2: treating you right, you deserve to be treated properly. But
Speaker 2: as we know, every relationship, you know, there's trade offs,
Speaker 2: and I think for her, she's wondering if she made
Speaker 2: the right call.
Speaker 1: What's going to be very interesting with where I think
Speaker 1: they're leading with this big Bravo announcement that's about to
Speaker 1: come out next week is where this universe is going.
Speaker 1: And I believe the universe of Bravo is going to
Speaker 1: do standalone characters as in these I think we're going
Speaker 1: to this. Denise Richard's rollout is an example of just
Speaker 1: giving a housewife their own show, and I think they're
Speaker 1: going to drop a Kyle Richard show. I genuinely think oh,
Speaker 1: where we're going. I think that must be what the
Speaker 1: announcement is, because they're like, We've got this big announcement
Speaker 1: that's going to change the universe. And I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be the standalone episode. These standalone series, so
Speaker 1: like a Kyle Richard series and then Lisa Barlow season,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like they're all going
Speaker 1: to give and they'll be like, wond a full season.
Speaker 1: It's obviously not going to be twenty episodes, but I
Speaker 1: think that they'll be like, you know, to thirty minute
Speaker 1: episodes drops of that, and I think that they're maybe
Speaker 1: saving a lot of these huge questions that we've been
Speaker 1: having for weeks now for a Kyle Richard season, and
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get any answers about
Speaker 1: what has gone down and what is going to happen
Speaker 1: until we see Kyle Richards in her own series, which
Speaker 1: would work, by the way, because Kathy and Kim could
Speaker 1: be involved with that in a completely different capacity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can see it.
Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, I have been watching the
Speaker 2: Denise Richard show, Richard Denise Richards and Her Wild Things,
Speaker 2: and it's quite good. They do it in you know,
Speaker 2: only twenty minutes. It doesn't have to be too deep.
Speaker 2: It's right in the pocket for Denise. But to your point,
Speaker 2: what we did see on that show, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: it was her and Erica Jane having a sit down
Speaker 2: about their relationship and how Denise was really hurt that
Speaker 2: Erica sort of went off her and her relationship changed
Speaker 2: with her and she was really upset about it. And
Speaker 2: Erica gave her the details of why she was upset.
Speaker 2: She said, you know, after we did that barbecue at
Speaker 2: your house, everyone was talking about sex. Everyone's talking about reasons,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but you were the only one that
Speaker 2: singled me out and that changed things for me. That
Speaker 2: was a big moment. That was something that had stemmed
Speaker 2: from Beverly Hills. But yet we were watching the resolution
Speaker 2: of it play out on a show that's been on
Speaker 2: TV for a hot minute. So I can see and
Speaker 2: the social media eclips for that are going everywhere because
Speaker 2: people are interested in that. So I can see how
Speaker 2: they would dangle the carrots for the new shows to
Speaker 2: get us across to them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Interesting, and it's sort of part of a broader discussion
Speaker 2: to see where we go, I mean, all these women
Speaker 2: are getting older. How much longer do we watch them
Speaker 2: in this format forever? The succession plan around that, yeah,
Speaker 2: we will see.
Speaker 1: The girl's trip to me looked a little different to
Speaker 1: any girls trip that we had seen before. I don't
Speaker 1: know whether it was because we launched the Girl's trip
Speaker 1: with them all on a plane that, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: looked a bit like they were flying in coach, and
Speaker 1: then they showed these apartments that they were in, and
Speaker 1: I know you were sort of alluding to the fact
Speaker 1: that you were like, oh my god, Saint Lucia's looks amazing.
Speaker 1: Saint Lucia looks amazing. And then I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this this looks like a budget and
Speaker 1: then used next message.
Speaker 3: That beautiful pool overlooking the ocean.
Speaker 1: You could be in Barley. With that, you can get
Speaker 1: a little villa and Barley and have those infinity pools
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff, like it's not completely I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was underwhelmed with what we've seen. So
Speaker 1: you're devastated, but you send me a text mezitch about this,
Speaker 1: which I really appreciated and I wanted to explore. And
Speaker 1: that is who is paying for these things. Are these
Speaker 1: being provided by Bravo? Are the housewives paying? Did Bosma
Speaker 1: just decide to drop a bomb and take everyone to
Speaker 1: this holiday? Like is it being comped? Like as in,
Speaker 1: is this money can't buy advertising for these venues? Like
Speaker 1: who do you think is coughing up that cash?
Speaker 2: Well, I've always wondered this about a car's trip because
Speaker 2: there's always someone who's like the point person who's organizing
Speaker 2: all of these trips. And you know, Lisa Rinner is
Speaker 2: organized for them to go to Rome, and Erica, is
Speaker 2: you know, organized for them to go to New York
Speaker 2: And now this one Bo's is organized for them to
Speaker 2: go to Saint Lucia. And I have always wanted like,
Speaker 2: is it production saying we're going to go to Saint Lucia?
Speaker 2: But this could be your trip?
Speaker 3: And then they just make it sound like these are.
Speaker 2: All the activities that she's got booked in, but really
Speaker 2: this stuff's already booked in or is this stuff where
Speaker 2: they go, Okay, we do want you to sort of
Speaker 2: run this And it is actually her behind the scenes
Speaker 2: saying this is where I think it'd be called go.
Speaker 2: And this is why I've always wondered that I mean,
Speaker 2: I have no doubt that there's sponsorships and partnerships in
Speaker 2: place to get free, you know, exposure for these hotels
Speaker 2: and the activities in the brands that are involved. But
Speaker 2: I've just kind of always wondered that who is organizing them?
Speaker 3: Is that fake?
Speaker 1: Is it? A little bit of a look inside of
Speaker 1: that when you hear some of the housewives saying, you know,
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards used to drop million dollar venues for housewives,
Speaker 1: like she used to do events, and that was coming
Speaker 1: out of Kyle Richards's money. You know, I am still
Speaker 1: curious about that. If she was paying for those extravagant
Speaker 1: parties and it was for content for housewives, maybe some
Speaker 1: of these housewives can afford I mean, maybe Jennifer Tilly
Speaker 1: put her on the credit card. She put it on
Speaker 1: the black Amex.
Speaker 2: Going back to Salt Lake City for a moment. That
Speaker 2: was one of the first times I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe they aren't paying for it, because that fight that
Speaker 2: we were just talking about with Lisa Barlow where she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm sitting in coach, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Why would I be sitting there And Browan goes, well,
Speaker 2: it was my goddamn credit card, and so I put
Speaker 2: myself in first class and I've put you in coach, Like,
Speaker 2: deal with it.
Speaker 3: I'm the one paying for it.
Speaker 2: So that was one of the first moments where I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe they actually are paying for this. But that just
Speaker 2: still kind of surprises me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, how we're going to get to
Speaker 1: the end of that. We're gonna have to text, you know.
Speaker 2: We need an insider to actually confirm immediately, that's all.
Speaker 3: Immediately, I need to investigate that.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get onto that because I needed to
Speaker 1: get to the end of this. I mean, I need
Speaker 1: to solve this riddle. You know who was really interesting
Speaker 1: was Jennifer Tilly back to her again on this trip,
Speaker 1: when she saw that flight of stairs and she looked
Speaker 1: like she was not going to go up that flighter
Speaker 1: stairs unless someone carried her up there. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: she seems really out of touch with reality, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: she looked at that stairs and she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going up there, and it's not like she couldn't
Speaker 1: do with a stair climb every now and again. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, even no, you did not you know, at
Speaker 1: least someone could tease her about the lollies in her bag.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we've taken his circus upstairs. All the lollies
Speaker 1: are up there. She would have been whipped straight up
Speaker 1: the stairs to go and get those lollies.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She just seems a little bit out of touch of reality,
Speaker 1: are you. Yeah?
Speaker 2: But she's got fuck you money, and she doesn't strike
Speaker 2: me as someone who's doing a lot of normal stuff.
Speaker 2: Like she literally hangs out with her partner who's a
Speaker 2: professional gambler, and they go like wear sunglasses at eleven
Speaker 2: in the morning and sit around a poker table, like,
Speaker 2: and she's you know, she's got assistance and all of
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. So, I mean, it doesn't really
Speaker 2: surprise me that she's a bit out of touch.
Speaker 3: It's sort of like the.
Speaker 2: In a way, you know, they're just looking a completely
Speaker 2: different lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I just think that Jennifer Tilly, she's just been at
Speaker 1: home sitting with those chucky dolls talking to them for years,
Speaker 1: and then they've broken her out and told her to
Speaker 1: be social, and she's like, I'm just used to pouring,
Speaker 1: you know, some thousand dollars tequila into a glass for
Speaker 1: an adult to drink do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like she is, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, but it's kind of I don't feel like that
Speaker 2: was surprising to me.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's been pretty evident the whole time.
Speaker 1: Do you think that she really should be playing a
Speaker 1: more juiciar role? This is where I'm kind of getting too,
Speaker 1: because when you see her sitting with Garsel and Sudden,
Speaker 1: there should be some more conversation going on here. Like,
Speaker 1: I just think Garcel is on the verge of cracking
Speaker 1: with Sudden. That's where I see that friendship going because Sudden.
Speaker 3: Yes is crazy, so here for it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like before this season ends or it
Speaker 1: needs to happen in the reunion, we need to see
Speaker 1: Garcel take Sudden to task. And I think if she
Speaker 1: doesn't do that after this season where we've seen her
Speaker 1: see enough, we're all going to be like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing? Mate? I mean, if I acted
Speaker 1: a damn full and I've done that before, you you
Speaker 1: would tell me. You'd be like, you know, that was
Speaker 1: a bit strange, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like a good friendship you hold up a
Speaker 1: mirror and you ask the questions. It doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be nasty but you know, if people start behaving differently
Speaker 1: or you don't agree with what they're doing, you are
Speaker 1: co signing by not saying anything, just sitting around and
Speaker 1: watching it all happen and not asking the questions. I
Speaker 1: think is really it's not the sign of a good friendship.
Speaker 2: I think Garcel is starting to see. I think we
Speaker 2: are watching a very slow removing of the rose tinted
Speaker 2: glasses that Dreit referred to, and I think she is
Speaker 2: starting to realize. And I think earlier in the episode
Speaker 2: where we or her bring up Morgan Wade, she said,
Speaker 2: I think it's strange we can't talk about Morgan Wade
Speaker 2: and Sutton was like, oh God, like no, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be involved, like in making Kyle upset, And
Speaker 2: she was like, but why can't we? Like so you
Speaker 2: can see they were having a dis difference of opinion there.
Speaker 2: And I mean, just going back to your point about
Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly, I think the question with her we don't
Speaker 2: know how much to invest with her because we're like,
Speaker 2: are they going to bring her in more and therefore
Speaker 2: we should value her opinion more and her take on
Speaker 2: things or is she just kind of this extra filler
Speaker 2: on the side, we don't need to be wasting time
Speaker 2: watching her have these, you know, really big conversations because
Speaker 2: she's only going to flit in and out like Kathy.
Speaker 3: So I think.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit hard to place her and then
Speaker 2: put a value on how much she is going to bring.
Speaker 2: But I tell you what was one of the biggest
Speaker 2: aha moments for me. It was the oprah aha moment
Speaker 2: with Sutton talking about the fact that Kyle and Deurite
Speaker 2: were having a great time at the fashion show, rolling around,
Speaker 2: how they used to laughing, how they used to it,
Speaker 2: and you could see the jealousy and the steam coming
Speaker 2: out from her ears and Garcel doing that confessional saying
Speaker 2: that is what Sutton wants. She wants them to not
Speaker 2: be friends so that she can be better friends. And
Speaker 2: I just thought, oh my god, is this the micro
Speaker 2: drop moment we have been waiting for to understand where
Speaker 2: this sudden to eat beef is coming from, because we
Speaker 2: have been saying for a couple of weeks something about
Speaker 2: this is not adding up. She just keeps poking the
Speaker 2: bear for no real reason, and now I'm starting to
Speaker 2: wonder if this all is an attention seeking game. So
Speaker 2: she can get Kyle on her side. She's waiting for
Speaker 2: her to step up.
Speaker 4: Sutton and Kyle have a better relationship, right, because it's
Speaker 4: like sometin now can get in with Kyle even more.
Speaker 4: And I think it's all what Sutton wants.
Speaker 1: She wants to be.
Speaker 4: Really good friends with Kyle.
Speaker 1: Why do you think though Sutton can't see why Kyle's
Speaker 1: not turning the favor because Kyle isn't going to be
Speaker 1: her best friend. And that's because we have a dorseer
Speaker 1: of shitty behavior from Sutton's behalf. You know when you're
Speaker 1: with a friend and you're not bff's, but you're a
Speaker 1: friend and they start talking about you like your own
Speaker 1: BFF status and you're like, no, that is not what's
Speaker 1: going on here. I feel like it's been really awkward.
Speaker 1: Sutton will say we're about to lose another sister, and
Speaker 1: she's like referring to herself as being a sister like
Speaker 1: Kathy and Kim like, yeah, you are giving yourself way
Speaker 1: too much credibility here. If she wants Kyle's friendship, she
Speaker 1: needs to understand that the sort of person that Kyle
Speaker 1: hangs out with is a Teddy Mellencamp. You know that's right.
Speaker 2: She wants consistency, she wants honesty, she wants a level
Speaker 2: playing field. And now I think she spent enough time
Speaker 2: with Sutton that.
Speaker 3: She goes this is a rollercoaster of.
Speaker 2: A friendship that I don't really want to be on.
Speaker 2: One week we're getting this, one week we're getting that.
Speaker 2: But I can understand it's so weird because I feel
Speaker 2: like with this sudden to read thing, I could not
Speaker 2: see that. I knew something was a miss with the beef,
Speaker 2: and I could not place it. And remember I said
Speaker 2: to you, I said, I wonder if this is coming
Speaker 2: from production. They're trying to create a false fight here
Speaker 2: because they're just wanting something.
Speaker 3: I couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 2: But now that I've realized, I think it is about
Speaker 2: Sutton trying to get Kyle's attention, giving Kyle an opportunity
Speaker 2: to jump in and defend her so that she can
Speaker 2: be like, see, Kyle's my best friend. Now that I've
Speaker 2: seen that, I can't unsee it. I honestly feel like
Speaker 2: that has been the driver that is making sense of
Speaker 2: why she keeps peaking on deret. It isn't even risk
Speaker 2: really about Dereat. It's about her relationship with Kyle, and
Speaker 2: she is pissed that Kyle and Deurrete are friends again,
Speaker 2: exactly like how Garcel read the situation in that confessional.
Speaker 1: Even in the promo for next week, I thought that
Speaker 1: was pretty outrageous. We got another sudden catchphrase that can
Speaker 1: be stitched onto her blouse because she's like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck do you even want from me? Or whatever that
Speaker 1: saying was, and I'm like, that isn't the sort of
Speaker 1: person that Kyle's friends with. I just don't think it's
Speaker 1: what she wants.
Speaker 2: But it's another example of Who being a ratic and
Speaker 2: having another meltdown. And that trailer was so telling because
Speaker 2: you know, Erica Jane was there saying, you know, you
Speaker 2: act as a friend and you pose as an enemy
Speaker 2: or whatever she says to her and then.
Speaker 3: She loses her shit again.
Speaker 2: But that is very accurate, and that is what I
Speaker 2: have struggled with as a viewer because I just don't
Speaker 2: relate to.
Speaker 3: That personality type.
Speaker 2: I have moments where I'm like, oh, what she said
Speaker 2: was amazing, what she said was on point, but the
Speaker 2: next episode, I'm way off the wagon because she's acted
Speaker 2: so differently again, and there's just no level playing field.
Speaker 3: So I just feel like.
Speaker 2: That is where Kyle's kept a little bit of distance
Speaker 2: from her. But we're starting to see that Sutton is
Speaker 2: not going to, you know, let that fly. She wants
Speaker 2: them to be besties, and I don't think Kyle wants that.
Speaker 1: How many Alana McLean's are you going to give Episode fifteen?
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to give this four and a half.
Speaker 3: I thought it was really good. I really liked.
Speaker 2: Seeing the dret PK drama unfold. I liked that vulnerable
Speaker 2: moment between Kyle and Bow's. I really like seeing them
Speaker 2: and I think that's a friendship that I am keen
Speaker 2: to see more of. I like seeing the start of
Speaker 2: the trip and the excitement building around that. And I
Speaker 2: don't care what you say, I would love to be
Speaker 2: in that Saint Lucia apartment with that pool, overlooking the
Speaker 2: beach with a cocktail.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to give it four and a half.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to give it four stars because I
Speaker 1: just think I need to save some room for when
Speaker 1: we actually get like big things, you know, like some
Speaker 1: Morgan Waite or you.
Speaker 3: Know some you aren't getting that you're kidding yourself, Well.
Speaker 1: That's when you jump on the fire.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you kill me the one can give it
Speaker 2: and not be able to take it.
Speaker 1: You pose as a friend and then often times work
Speaker 1: as an enemy. This is not going to be gonna trial.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Okay, now you're being ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I want you're what from me? Seriously? What do you think?
Speaker 3: What from me?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm very much looking forward to next week. I
Speaker 2: am very excited about where the reunion is going to go.
Speaker 2: We can see a few different things turning, and I
Speaker 2: think for me that has made me feel a whole
Speaker 2: lot better because it was only a few weeks ago
Speaker 2: that we were sitting here saying we just it's hit
Speaker 2: this flat spot and we don't know where it's going
Speaker 2: to go. We can't see how this is going to
Speaker 2: turn around and where the relationships are kind of going
Speaker 2: to change and evolve. I think we are starting to
Speaker 2: see some of that now, and I'm really excited for
Speaker 2: the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I want a big, epic boat trip, just like they
Speaker 1: did when they were in Amsterdam. I want people to
Speaker 1: be slapped.
Speaker 2: Oh we don't want slaps, but I'm all for a
Speaker 2: boat trip because the boat trip seems to be where
Speaker 2: the drama really ensues. Plus you've just got the glamor
Speaker 2: of everyone in a fantastic boat outfit.
Speaker 1: What's happening for you this weekend? I just want to
Speaker 1: quickly touch in with your mum. You sent me a
Speaker 1: photo of her.
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh she's okay. We're a little bit worried.
Speaker 2: She's got a fracture in one of her vertebrae and
Speaker 2: we I didn't know if she was going to need surgery.
Speaker 3: She doesn't. She just needs to wear a neck brace
Speaker 3: for a few months, which look is a little bit
Speaker 3: of a long road.
Speaker 2: However, she's fine and I'm about to go see her,
Speaker 2: and then I've got a big weekend of here. There's
Speaker 2: a huge event happening a couple of hours south of Perth,
Speaker 2: and there's like a music stage that's happening across the
Speaker 2: two days, and so I'm hosting that. I've got a pack,
Speaker 2: I've got to get a blow dry, I've got to
Speaker 2: do all the things today for two days. For two days,
Speaker 2: I'm like there for Tudor, Like it's like I'm hosting
Speaker 2: Coachella and me the.
Speaker 1: Look book one of the Queen Coachella look book yep,
Speaker 1: I hear that rickularly called Her is headlining with and
Speaker 1: Nat Bass love both of those women. That is a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Like, oh my god, I'm very jealous.
Speaker 2: I am so excited to hang out with both of them,
Speaker 2: and they're just going to bring the good vibes.
Speaker 3: And I think the weather is slated to be very good,
Speaker 3: so it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 1: What about you, Slipslop and slack. I have Zobe Klein's
Speaker 1: birthday tomorrow, her forty ab so I'll be putting slaph
Speaker 1: on some O my glow and looking very tanned and
Speaker 1: looking amazing. And yeah, I think that's about all for
Speaker 1: this weekend that I'm doing. That's going to take up
Speaker 1: the whole weekend though at Zobe Climb party will be
Speaker 1: at Oh you won't.
Speaker 2: Be doing much the next day except eating some McDonald's
Speaker 2: and lying on the couch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love you, Okay, love you. Chat next week.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,