1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Well, yesterday marked one year since the Leofanocchio lead COLP 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: government was elected. Now, as we know, the government won 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: with a seventeen seat majority. Labor decimated to just four seats, 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: losing the stronghold that that held in some seats for decades. Now, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: the COLP came in with a clear mandate to fix crime. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: One year in, many believe that they're on the right path. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Some feel their policies go too far, with more people 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: locked up than ever before and jails bursting at the seams. 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Now the Chief Minister Leafanocchio joins me in the studio 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: for an extended interview today as we take a look 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: at the year that was. Good morning to your chief minister. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie and to your listeners. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. Now, Chief Minister, 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: how would you describe your first year for government? 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, I just want to thank territories right from 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: the start. You know, we were elected with an emphatic 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: majority a year ago and we promise people three key 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: things around reducing crime, rebuilding the economy and restoring our 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: live style. And we have us stuck so close to 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: that Katie, and kept in front of mine. It forms 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: our whole position as a government. And so one year on, 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: I think, you know, we've really put out a lot 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: of the data. And that's not to say job done. 24 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: It's about showing territories that in one year you can 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: achieve a lot of change. And I think the despair 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: in our community just on twelve months ago it was 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: really profound. Morale was really low, and people were questioning 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: whether there was a future for them here. And I 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: think the importance of us putting out the little wins. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's been some you know, some quite small 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: data changes, but meaningful changes, shows that in one year 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: we can achieve great things. Imagine what we can do 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: over the term. And so it's just about staying the 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: course and keeping going. 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: There's definitely been some improvements when you look at those 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: crime stats. I mean, as I said, you came in 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: with a very clear mandate to fix crime. If you 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: look at the ALP's press release yesterday, the labor parties 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: say that, well, unfortunately you're not making the inroads that 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: you claim. They say, adult sexual assault is up twenty 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: five percent, child sexual assaults up two percent, serious assaults 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: up four percent, assaults on frontline workers up twelve percent 43 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: domestic violence five percent. Look, the stats matter, there is 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. For me, what really matters is 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: the way that Territorians feel. And even last week I 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: had a situation where sus Shira, the CEO from the 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Council of the Aging was assaulted. She had a group 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: of young Territorians throwing rocks at her. I mean, we 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: know that we're never going to be able to stop 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: every single incident of crime, but I just think when 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: you've got young people disrespecting seniors in our community, it's 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: utterly disgusting. 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: It's not on and it shows just a profound level 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: of breakdown we've had over the last decade plus, Katie, 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: And so you know, we're starting from a really difficult position, 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: but that's not to say it can't be done now. 57 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: We want to live in a safer community now and 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: for our kids into the future. And that type of 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: lawless behavior is what we're seeing after a decade of 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: weak laws and no intervention in young people's lives to 61 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: correct them onto a better path. And that's why it's 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: so important the work we're doing, not just at the 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: point end and you know, yes, we've put you know, 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: six hundred and forty six more people into prison, Katie. 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: But we've also had six hundred and five less victims 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: in one year. And I think it's not rocket science 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: to draw a connection between both of those numbers. One 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: is going up, imprisonment now, that is going down, and 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: that's a number of victims. Now. We've done a number 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: of things, particularly around strengthening mandatory sentencing for assaults on workers, 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: and we've had four hundred and fifty one charged this 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: year alone, but there's there's plenty more work to do, 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: and that dealing with the root causes of crime stuff 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: is significant. Getting kids to school, I mean, Labor had 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: literally this list with like a thousand kids on it, 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: mostly Bush Aboriginal kids that were they had stopped going 77 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: to school for so long that Labor had just kicked 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: them off the role. They just weren't even counted anymore. 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: And so we've done a lot of work to bring 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: those kids back into the school system. And there's three 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight more kids going to school now 82 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: than there was. 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Inactive abste role or something like that. I can't remember. 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: They had a strange name. And so if you didn't 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: go to school for twenty eight days you went onto 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: this other list and you were basically forgotten about it 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: and allowed the data to look better than what it was. 88 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: But we've had three hundred and eighty eight of those 89 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: kids back into our schools, which means they've got a 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: chance at a stronger future. So it's about getting kids 91 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: on the right track, not into the justice system. 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you have copped quite a bit of criticism 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: from some that your policies are race based and unfairly 94 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: target indigenous territory, and so I know, we've had several 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: occasions where some of the policies, some of the legislation 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: that you've introduced. I mean, we're really not getting a 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: lot of pushback at all from victims of crime, but 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: you're certainly getting pushed back from some in the community 99 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: who say that if you're going to be locking kids up, well, 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you need to be making sure that there are programs 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: in place for them. You need to be making sure 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: that if somebody's going to jail, that they're not then 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: sitting in a watchhouse, you know, for several weeks, unable 104 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to take part in any kind of rehabilitation program. I mean, 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: what do you say to those that do feel as 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: though your policies are race base. 107 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: That's just not true, Katie, I guess is the answer 108 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: to that. And there's been a lot of pushback and 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: activism and we've seen that flare up because we've come 110 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: in hard and strong, and that's ruffling a lot of 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: feathers and I get that. But we went elected twelve 112 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: months ago to maintain the status quo. We were elected 113 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: out of an absolute urgent need for change, and you know, 114 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: we've effectively been stemming the bleed on the territory for 115 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: the last twelve months. This is crisis mode government, where 116 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: you have to come in and try and reform everything 117 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: at every level, have a really clear focus on law 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: and order, backing our police, and then trying to do 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: that long, hard work of dealing with the root causes 120 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: of crime. But we've managed to get a good balance, Katie. 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: While we've increased the number of people in prison by 122 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: six forty six, we have actually had more people in 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: prison complete therapeutic programs than under Labor who did not 124 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: have that pressure in the system. So we are deeply committed, 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: and you don't have to accept my words for it. 126 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: The data the actions show it to be true. We 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: really want to put kids on a better path. Our 128 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: boot camps have started, our family responsibility agreements. We're up 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: to one hundred and thirty seven family responsibility agreements, which 130 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: are like contracts between the family and the government to 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: keep their kid on the right track. As I said, 132 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty eight more kids in school. We've 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: had eight boot camps. There's a lot of good work 134 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: being done, and the activist in the naysayers they don't 135 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: want to talk about the good work. But at the 136 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: end of the day, again, it's about sentiment. We're out 137 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: on the ground every day, Katie. Territories are constantly coming 138 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 2: up to me saying keep going, and that's what we've 139 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: got to do. 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: Look, there are plenty of messages coming through on the 141 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: tech sign. I'll get to those shortly. I'm just sort 142 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: of staying on this point though. You have got the 143 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: likes of the Northern Territory's Aboriginal Land Councils just a 144 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: few weeks ago accused your government of human rights abuses. 145 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: The Central Land Council Deputy chair Barbara Show earlier this year, 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: describing the government's prison policies as stacking and racking Aboriginal 147 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: people in overcrowded jails. Are you concerned, as the leader 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: of the whole of the Northern Territory that you've got 149 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: the land councils and some Aboriginal people who don't agree 150 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: with your policies when you look at you know, bridging 151 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the gap between Indigenous and non Indigenous territorians and you 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: know taking everybody along on that journey. 153 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: And again, Katie, it's really easy to drag this debate 154 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: down into a race bait debate, and that's what some 155 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: people are choosing to do, and that's a matter for them. 156 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: At the end of the day. The way to close 157 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: the gap is to give Aboriginal kids on communities a 158 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: better chance at life by having a steady education, by 159 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: having food, by having housing, by having parents who look 160 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: after them, love and care for them. These are the 161 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: issues we need to be coming together on and it's 162 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: easy for land counsels or whoever else to throw stones 163 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: at me. I would challenge back, what are you doing 164 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: about it? Because we're seeing a lot of talk and 165 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: not a lot of alternatives. And now it's easy to 166 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: point into the future and say, oh, well the expert advice, 167 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: Well what is that? Because we've just had ten years 168 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: of labour telling us every single day to weere all 169 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: nauseated that they were following expert advice, and it got 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: us to where we are now. So quite frankly, it 171 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: is very important that we pursue a different path. And 172 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: again that ruffles feathers, That makes people who used to 173 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: have more power uncomfortable because the dynamic has shifted. But 174 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: that's not my problem. My problem is fixing the territory 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,479 Speaker 2: and making sure that we build a stronger territory for everyone, 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: for all territories and people. Here in my language when 177 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: I speak, we talk territories, not different groups of people, 178 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: because we are one and we are stronger together. 179 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, We know that one of the 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: other issues that you've obviously got at the moment is 181 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the overcrowding of the jails and the delays through the courts. 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: What work have you done in this space in the 183 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: last year and do you plan to further improve these delays. 184 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: I know there was an announcement over the weekend in 185 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: relation to the court system, so we might touch on 186 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: that first off. 187 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a really important part of it, of course, 188 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: with you know, additional funding for our please and supported police. 189 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: But if we don't support corrections in our courts, the 190 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: whole system falls apart. It really is a three way effort. 191 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: So with our one point five billion dollar investment just 192 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: into police, courts and corrections, we're seeing some great movement. 193 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: So I talked earlier about in our correction system, we've 194 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: had more people completing programs than our delabor equally in 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: our courts. We've got four new full time local court judges, 196 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: four new prosecutors. We've put twenty people who are in 197 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: the DPP into permanent positions. We've and I'm really proud 198 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: of these numbers, Katie. So everyone knows that remand has 199 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: been really, really high, and that that means someone's been 200 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: arrested and they're sitting in a watchhouse or in prison 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: waiting for their day in court. We've despite the huge increase, 202 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: remember that six forty six more people flushed into the system, 203 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: we have still dropped remand by seven percent, So that 204 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: means people are sitting there waiting for their day in 205 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: court is seven percent faster. We've got a. 206 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: So is that through push pushing things through the court 207 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: system more quickly. With the appointment of further judges. 208 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, more judges. It's also our targeted intervention groups, so 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: they've been doing the response around trying to early resolve matters. 210 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: So we've had two hundred and ninety cases of people 211 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: on ramand alone finalized just through this process. So plus 212 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: funding legally, I mean we've given Legal Aid an eighty 213 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: percent increase in funds so that we don't have unrepresented 214 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: litigants so that the system moves. So there's been a 215 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: lot of work. It's not just one thing. 216 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Look, we've got we always get messages people asking about 217 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: boot camps. Now, a lot of our listeners were not 218 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: really impressed with the sound of the boot camp that 219 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: was announced a little bit earlier this year where we 220 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: had a few participants out for a few days. You know, 221 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: they want to see more when it comes to boot camps. 222 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: One particular person, when in Nooney had asked a little 223 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: bit earlier this morning, what's going on with the boot 224 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: camp that had been promised she believed for Alice Springs. 225 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's right. So there's a facility called Paperbark 226 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: which we have completed one half of it and are 227 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: still completing the construction or sort of the refit of 228 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: the second half and that will be where we base 229 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: see Alice Springs boot Camp young people from. But we 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: have been taking some of the youth out on camps 231 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: to get them more engaged in skills training, to show 232 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: them there are better pathways. So we've had three in 233 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: Alice Rings, four in ten and one in Darwem And 234 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: basically some of the things those young people have been doing, 235 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: for example, is accessing skills training, work experience, showing them 236 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: that there is a different side of life, a more 237 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: structured side of life, better passways. And so we will 238 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: continue that work and that development of boot camps. This 239 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: is not you know, that's our boot camp done, but 240 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: this is what we can roll out right now to 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: help those people who are in prison right now while 242 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: we're building up our fame. 243 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it does seem like a lot of you know, 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of supervision, a lot of you know, 245 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: a lot of guards. I guess you'd say needed for 246 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: one particular person or two people or whatever to go 247 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: on a three day boot camp. Yeah. I mean, honestly, 248 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: I'd caught up with the police junior rangers and what 249 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: they do sounded like it was you know, it sounded 250 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: like it was more difficult than what some of these 251 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: kids were doing on that boot camp. And that was 252 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: certainly the sentiment from some of our listeners. 253 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: And I don't disagree. Our junior police rangers are amazing. 254 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: And what you've got is engage volunteering kids with parents 255 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: who support them really having a crack, and with kids 256 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: in youth justice, you of have kids who have not 257 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: been supported, have barely been raised half the time, have 258 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: no structure, and very little prospects going forward if we 259 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: don't do something about it now. So it's very, very difficult, 260 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: and it is unfortunately, it's extremely intensive on personnel. But 261 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: we have to keep trying and we have to keep 262 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: pushing forward. All right, many of. 263 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: The policy changes that we're seeing are also impacting police now. 264 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: On Friday, the Police Association held their annual conference, where 265 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: a number of their concerns were raised. Some of those 266 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: concerns relate to changes which your government's implemented, like the 267 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: creation of those police public safety offices to be deployed 268 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: to hotspot areas to deal with anti social behavior. And 269 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: there are some concerns around the OC spray trial. Also, 270 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: of course, some serious concerns around the retention bonus. First, off. 271 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: Did you leave that conference early on Friday? No. 272 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: I stayed for the amount of time that we were 273 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: required to stay. We had the photo afterwards, and then 274 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: I walked out with one of the executive members and 275 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: we went we. 276 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Meant to do a media event though, well, look, I. 277 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Think the media were there. I could see some of 278 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: them at the back of the room, and I'm sorry 279 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: if that offended people that I didn't do a press 280 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: conference about it, but all about my remarks were recorded. 281 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: Had it been pre planned that you were going to do. 282 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: A press I don't know that it is traditional that 283 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: the media are there, so look, it is what it is. 284 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't there for that. I headed back to the office. 285 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: I was speaking with one of the NTPA members. But 286 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: it was a good opportunity. So I've been going to 287 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: that conference for about a decade. It was my first 288 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: time as chief and first time as police minister, and 289 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: I used it as an opportunity to really thank our 290 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: police and talk to them about the success that we've 291 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: been having, particularly around making sure our frontline understand that 292 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: we want to hear what they need to make their 293 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: job better, and a lot of our law reform has 294 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: been quite literally from cops on the front line that 295 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: I've been going out and about with. And so I 296 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: reinforced to all of the delegates there to please encourage 297 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: their members to have the confidence to raise concerns about 298 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: what's working and not working so we can get things. 299 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel like those messages are not being passed 300 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: through by the association or what's going on? Oh no, no. 301 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: So these are all delegates of the association. So when 302 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm out and about, like I was in Noulan Boy 303 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: last week, I sat down with the coppers out there 304 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, if it's something's bothering, if 305 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: something's annoying you, if you think it could be better, 306 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, flush it up the chain of command. So 307 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: I just used it as an opportunity. Need to express 308 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: that to delegates because they're right across the territory. So 309 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: it's a good way to get our message out around 310 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: be empowered to make change. And I think that's a 311 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: real focus for us now. 312 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: Just going back to that point of view, not then 313 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: staying for that press conference, I mean, are you are 314 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: you still holding regular press conferences a year in I know, 315 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: obviously come in here and you speak to me. I 316 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: understand you speak to the ABC as well, but it 317 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: is obviously important to hold those press conferences doing that. Yeah. 318 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, when we've got something to announce or 319 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: respond to, we're out in the media. I think we 320 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: probably have someone in the media every day, Katie, And 321 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I'm obviously part of that mix is No, 322 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: there's no issue with that, and. 323 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: All right, I mean, I guess it's just about making 324 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: sure that you are getting your message out to the 325 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: broader public. But in terms of the police, how do 326 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: you ensure that you've got the support of the police 327 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: when they are the ones that are implementing many of 328 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: the changes you want delivered around lowering crime. But then, 329 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: to be really blunts, some of them are really pissed 330 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: about this retention bonus and about some of the other 331 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: changes that are being made. I know, it's a real 332 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: mix bag then with some of the other policy changes 333 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: where they are really happy about it. But you know, like, 334 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: how are you going to juggle that? 335 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's it's one of those things you're not 336 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: always going to agree with the Police Association. And we've 337 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: done a lot of reform that our police are really 338 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: really happy with, and it's it's going great. Obviously, now 339 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: we've reached a pay deal that the Police Association support, 340 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: so that will still have to go to members. You know, 341 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: concerns are raised around the fact that we've still got 342 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: the Justice blow inquiry outstanding, and I'd love to see 343 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: that completed too, But it's it's running it. 344 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: How far off do you reckon it? 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: I well, Justice Blower is currently at the Supreme Court 346 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: at the moment, so I guess it just depends how 347 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: long that is going to take up his time. So 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: we need to you know, we need to land a 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: few things. We need to land that. The paid deal 350 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: will obviously give great confidence to police if that's the 351 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: way they decide to vote. There is concern around, some 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: concern around the PPSOS. But again, you know, when I 353 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: was talking about the Police Public Safety Officers, Katie, there 354 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: were a lot of delegates in that room nodding in support. 355 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: All right, what about this retention body and they're going 356 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: to relook at it. 357 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah No, so no, we're not. This is just been 358 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: caught up in the politics of the EBA and it's 359 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: really unfortunate because it's becoming a really hot issue within police. 360 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: But you know, the NTPA have a leadership role to 361 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: play here too, so we promised twelve months because it 362 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: had to deal with an immediate issue, and we've dropped 363 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: nutrition down to five point nine percent. We then, on 364 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: top of that, in good faith, gave three million dollars 365 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: for four years and wrapped it into the EBA on 366 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: the request of the Police Association because they preferred that 367 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: all members get more money than some members get a bonus. 368 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: So we have gone above and beyond what we ever 369 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: said we would do on this. 370 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: And do you think they're being a bit greedy. 371 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's greed. I think it's just 372 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: political in response to the EBA. But it's creating division 373 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: that we don't need and it's irresponsible. 374 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a bit of a break. You 375 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: are listening to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. 376 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: We are joined by the Chief Minister, Lea Finocchio for 377 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: a bit of a longer interview. This morning, it has 378 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: been one year since the COLP government was elected. If 379 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: you've got a question or a comment from the Chief 380 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Minister or for the Chief Minister, I should say love 381 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: to hear from you this morning. Well, if you have 382 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: just joined us. We are joined by the Chief Minister 383 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: of the Northern Territory, Leofanochi are Oh. It is twelve 384 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: months since the COLP government was elected and we've spoken 385 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: quite a bit this morning about crime. You know, it 386 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: was the number one issue that people were voting on 387 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: at the election at this time last year. But look, 388 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: one of the other areas that people certainly want to 389 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: see things improve is the economy. Now we have seen 390 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: some improvements in this space, but Chief Minister, what measures 391 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: are being taken in an effort to really try to 392 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: get things moving and what will you gauge as a success. 393 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say, driving into Darwin, it's so 394 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: great to see two cranes in the sky. And we've 395 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: got the other crane out at larak Here Culture Center 396 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: as well. So we've had some really great data. We've 397 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: done some big things over the last twelve months, you know, approvals, 398 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: fast tracked task for as Territory Coordinator, for example, abolishing 399 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: third party merits review, lifting the payroll tax free threshold 400 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: for small business, lots and lots of major reform. Woman 401 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: was starting to see that really paying off. So a 402 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago com sext Day of the State's 403 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: report came out and it had the I'm just so 404 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: excited about this had the territory as the fastest population 405 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: growth in the country and the fastest growing economy at 406 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: three times faster than the next fastest jurisdiction, which is amazing. 407 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: It's just amazing, and so that's really lifted us. We 408 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: really are ready to tackle the next year head on. 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: You know, we let on annual growth rates, we led 410 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: on building approvals. So it shows that what we've been 411 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: doing to restore confidence and give certainty into the territories working, 412 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: and we've just got to keep going. 413 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: I think we all hope so right like many of 414 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: us have invested our lives here, you know, we own 415 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: our properties or we're paying off properties. We want to 416 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: see the Northern Territory flourish. I guess what I saw though, 417 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: you know when the last government was elected is Michael 418 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: Gunner was very positive as well for a year and 419 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: then things really deteriorated, and they deteriorated fairly fast. So 420 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, what people are wanting to hear this morning, 421 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: I suppose is not just that you know, things are 422 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: on the up and up, but how do we make 423 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: some really meaningful change when it comes to the economy 424 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: so that we don't end up in the dire straits 425 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: that we've been again. 426 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: So it's twofold. One is the reducing crime part is 427 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: actually intrinsically linked to a strong economy. You can't have 428 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: one without the other. So the messaging and the work 429 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: we've been doing on law and order is getting through 430 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: and around the country. There is a buzz about the territory. 431 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Then there's the economic work. So as I mentioned, you know, 432 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: backing in small business by lifting the payroll free threshold 433 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: by a million dollars so up to two point five 434 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: and removing the apprentice and training wages. That's a big deal. 435 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: That is the nation's best payroll tax scheme. The Territory 436 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: Coordinator again best in class around the country in terms 437 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: of approvals processes and planning the territory. We've got the 438 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: Territory Energy Link going now, so that all of that 439 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: work is happening. There's been tons and tons and the 440 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 2: messages we've been sending around certainty to business make a 441 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: huge difference. Our strong backing of the five key areas 442 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: of economic growth around mining, energy, agriculture, defense and tourism. 443 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: Again and narrow focus, but very very important, key pillars 444 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: of our economy. So that is the work that we've 445 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: done and will continue to do to make sure that 446 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: these things lived, as well as raining and government spending, 447 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: making sure we're delivering projects on time, making sure we're 448 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: funding necessary and enabling infrastructure in that government side of 449 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: the house. 450 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, we are going to have to 451 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: get ready to wrap up. But a couple of comments. 452 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: I've got one here from Mickey Barrett, the Full Will 453 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: Drive NT President on behalf of Full Will Drive int 454 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and Full Will Drivers and campus in general. I'd like 455 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: to publicly pass on a thank you to the Chief 456 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: Minister and the whole team in relation to securing Litchfield 457 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: East Full Will Drive Recreation Reserve. They didn't make any 458 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: pre election promises about it to get votes, but once 459 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: in they just work behind the scenes to make it happen. 460 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Now I'll read the rest of that out a little later. 461 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: Another one, Katie, can you please ask the Chief Minister 462 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: if the residents of North Crest are going to receive. 463 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: A dump key. 464 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: We are in an unincorporated area and we pay our 465 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: rates to the Chief Minister's office. Other homeowners pay their 466 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: rates to a council and have access to a dump 467 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: Will they get a dump key? 468 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: I would love to see North Crest get a dump key. 469 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: I was a local member out there for a very 470 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: long time. So this is a vexed issue for that 471 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: community because they aren't part of a council. So they 472 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: do pay rates, but it goes to the developer to 473 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: do the rubbish and all of that type of stuff, 474 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: and so it really comes down to City of Darwin 475 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: then giving access with a key, and there's all these complicated, 476 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: little nuanced arrangements for North Crest. So I'd like to 477 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: see all of that put to bed for the people 478 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: of North Crest because they deserve to be in a 479 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: council just like everyone else. 480 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: All Right, David Wonnelli says, good morning Katie and Chief 481 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: Minister Leah. All I can say is keep up the 482 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: good work. I'm one hundred and fifty percent behind you. 483 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: The only other thing I can say is we need 484 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: another prison and a youth center, less bail and more 485 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: police and more prison guards. At least some of us 486 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: in the public are starting to feel safer, but there 487 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: are still a lot of antisocial behavior issues going on 488 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: out there, so please keep up that hard work. So 489 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: more of a comment, I guess you'd say, Scott in 490 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Aanula Katie, can you please ask the Chief Minister the 491 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: judges are still giving bail and suspended sentences. Can the 492 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: laws be made to make it impossible for these weak 493 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: judges to give a suspended sentence for or bail for 494 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: a violent crime. 495 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's look, it's nearly impossible. Right. We looked 496 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: at this and we did Declan's Law, both versions of 497 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: Declan's Law. That we've got the strongest bow laws in 498 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: the country. It is making a huge difference. We have 499 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: got an increase in people not being bailed of forty 500 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: four percent. That's over three thousand people did not get 501 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: bail this year since January. Actually, it's huge. It is working, 502 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: and we just have to continue to monitor and set 503 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: the expectation around what our laws look like and that 504 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: they meet the community's expectations. So it's always a work 505 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: in progress, but we do have very strong bowl laws here. 506 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, we are gonna have to wrap up. 507 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: But what would you say is your biggest achievement for 508 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: the year. 509 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: I think our biggest achievement is maintaining our very narrow focus, 510 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: because it's very easy in government to get distracted by 511 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: all sorts of things and get dragged down rabbit holes 512 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: and you know, not be focused on your core things. 513 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: So delivering our election commitments has just been something we 514 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: are smashing through and staying true to the crime economy 515 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: lifestyle as well, and I think that is why we're 516 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: having some really strong success, because we are staying very 517 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: very disciplined and very very focused. 518 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: The biggest regret for the year, I don't know. 519 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: That I have a biggest regret, probably if I had 520 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: any regret of being not seeing my kids as much 521 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: as I should. To be honest, Katie, if I'm pertuggle, yeah, yeah, 522 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 2: if I'm perfectly honest. But look, you always, you know, 523 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: every day I go over the day in my head 524 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 2: and I think about the things we did well, the 525 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: things we could have done better. And so just like 526 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: every territory in life, is this constant learning journey, right, 527 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't have any major big regrets. It's just I 528 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: learn every day and we put our best foot forward 529 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: the next day. 530 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what. The listeners have appreciated the 531 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: extended interview. The tech Sign's going off just a very 532 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: quick one. What are your goals for the next twelve months. 533 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: Yep, So we've got lots lots to do. So crime continues, 534 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: but we want to have a particular focus on that 535 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: sexual offending, assaults, violent crime. Housing public housing remains a huge, 536 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: huge issue for people. 537 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: So when are we going to see an announcement around that. 538 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be soon. It should really be soon. 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: I'm hoping within the month. So we need to do 540 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: a lot more. But our public housing, our police public 541 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: safety offices are going to be a big part of 542 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: that housing reform. So we've still got that reform to do. 543 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: We've got the OC spray trial to roll out. Then 544 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: there are projects like you know, shiplift and all sorts 545 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: of things, Katie, So there's plenty on the boil. 546 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister, we better leave it there. Thanks 547 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning. Really appreciate it. 548 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: Thank you.