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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio. He's the Chief Minister of

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory leof and oki ara O.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Good onning Katie, and to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister a little later this morning because you have

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Speaker 1: been at the flag racing for Nadok Week. How did

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Speaker 1: it go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really awesome Larichia Nation and everyone involved

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Speaker 3: did a great job. There were beautiful dances from the

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Speaker 3: Teewee Islanders and it was a lovely cake and just

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Speaker 3: everyone getting together. It's fifty years of NYOK this week,

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Speaker 3: so there's going to be plenty happening and I just

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Speaker 3: ourge everyone to get involved and celebrate the achievements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and how wonderful to see Michael Law obviously recognized

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Speaker 1: on a national stage. He's an absolute superstar. I think

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Speaker 1: it's really wonderful that he has been recognized and safe

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Speaker 1: to say that everybody in the Northern Territory are very

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Speaker 1: proud of his achievements.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, legend on and off the field. Absolutely. But shout

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Speaker 3: out to Daniel Ponta. She got sports Personal Larissa, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: Carissa Benjamin and Troy her husband from Black Brew they

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Speaker 3: won the Innovation Award and Professor Eddie Cabilo education. So

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Speaker 3: for out standing territories at a national level, it's a

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Speaker 3: great weak to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: It, certainly, certainly is now I do want to move

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Speaker 1: along to something we're just talking about a moment ago

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Speaker 1: and well, the government last week revealing details of changes

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Speaker 1: to the Youth Justice Act, announcing new measures that you

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Speaker 1: say going to ensure serious young offenders face real consequences.

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Speaker 1: So these amendements to the Youth Justice Regulations of two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six will expand the list of serious offenses

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Speaker 1: that are ineligible for youth diversion. Chief Minister, what offenses

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Speaker 1: are now going to be included?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really important piece of reform that

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Speaker 3: came from frontline police and that's really important for us

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Speaker 3: as a government to be listening and responding to what works.

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Speaker 3: Now all of your listeners would have read in the

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Speaker 3: paper or listened to U Katie saying, ex crime happened

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Speaker 3: and police return the youth to a responsible adult. Now

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Speaker 3: there'll be thousands of people listening right now cringing at

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Speaker 3: that very expression.

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Speaker 2: This deals with that. So it still gives police.

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Speaker 3: The discretion to divert if they think it's appropriate. But

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Speaker 3: what it does do is mean that thirteen more offenses

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Speaker 3: charge and remand which is important. So we're talking about

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Speaker 3: serious harm, hit and runs, driving, stall and motor vehicles, assault,

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Speaker 3: frontline workers, home break ins.

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Speaker 2: All of the crimes you.

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Speaker 3: Would expect that police should be able to deliver a

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Speaker 3: consequence are now going to be crystallized.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Attorney General revealed on the show on

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Speaker 1: Friday last week that previously a person accused of a

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Speaker 1: violent act causing death was eligible for diversion.

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Speaker 2: Yeap, is that the case?

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Speaker 1: And I mean really does that pass any kind of

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Speaker 2: Of course not.

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Speaker 3: And again this is just the web of weak laws

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Speaker 3: our police and quite frankly made young people believe they

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Speaker 3: drop them off to a quote unquote responsible adult. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't get more demoralizing and frustrating than that, Katie.

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Speaker 2: So this plugs that gap.

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Speaker 3: And let's not forget We've got our Youth Justice Act

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Speaker 3: rewrite parts one and two finalizing, so part one will

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Speaker 3: so there's plenty more happening. I'm not saying it's job done,

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Speaker 2: Part Chief Beness.

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Speaker 1: So, the Justice Reform Initiative executive director Mindy so Tierri

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Speaker 1: joined us on the show just a little while ago.

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Speaker 1: She said that there should be alternatives to incarceration and

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars should be invested into those alternatives. I mean,

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Speaker 1: should we have other diversion programs and other programs that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, and in a perfect world you and

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Speaker 3: young people have to be put before the court. Now,

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Speaker 3: this gives a better balance for our police to make

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Speaker 3: It allows us to intervene then, because just picture this.

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Speaker 3: If a police officer takes home a young person who's

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Speaker 3: There's nothing happens after that point, there's no follow up,

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Speaker 2: That asying is.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we've got like, how often would you say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, too many.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I read about it in the

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Speaker 3: media like everybody else as well. So this is thirteen

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Speaker 2: If there needs to be more, we'll put more on

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Speaker 1: So can I ask, Chief Minister? Has the legislation changed

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Speaker 1: shit which means that young offenders get to choose if

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Speaker 1: they undertake diversion programs or not.

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Speaker 2: This is a big thing to this as well.

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Speaker 1: Is while it's great to have, you know, many people

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Speaker 1: will see it has been great to have the list

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Speaker 1: of serious offenses obviously expanded and young people committing serious

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Speaker 1: you know, it's still, in a lot of ways not

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Speaker 3: Program one hundred percent, and that's coming up in July.

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Speaker 3: So that's in our first tranch of reforms. I'm pretty confident.

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Speaker 3: I'll double check, but it's definitely We've had to split

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Speaker 1: Are there actually diversion programs running outside of you know,

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Speaker 2: There there are, and they run by children and families.

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Speaker 3: And so what we did on coming to government is

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Speaker 3: to say, Katie that some will not be renewed after

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Speaker 3: that point because we will be finding them ineffective and

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Speaker 3: not achieving any KPIs. Others might be strengthened, or new

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Speaker 3: And that work has already been ongoing. But currently police

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Speaker 3: can issue a written warning and oral warning. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's all pretty weak and I just don't think

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Speaker 1: And something that you and I have spoken about before is,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have got some families who have a

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Speaker 1: young person who's gone off rails, right, and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to do everything they can to get them back on track.

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Speaker 1: But I've been told on numerous occasions that there's really

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Speaker 1: in a break and ter and was put on youth diversion.

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Speaker 1: It was nothing, absolutely nothing happened, not a thing. Youth

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, and I've spoken to many families

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Speaker 3: like that as well, Katie, and that's why we've got

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Speaker 3: to look at it. I think diversion sounds really good,

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Speaker 2: But diversion isn't.

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Speaker 3: What it's cracked up to be, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: the time it just isn't really anything of substance at all.

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Speaker 2: So we've got to fix that.

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Speaker 1: On that last week, we know, a Northern Territory judge

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Speaker 1: not therapeutic in any way, as courts struggled to manage

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Speaker 1: this report by the ABC, data provided by int Corst

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Speaker 1: During a bail hearing for a young person charged with

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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately it is. And again this is a leftover legacy.

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Speaker 3: You know, labor were pretending there were all these programs

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Speaker 3: crime escalate more than ever before. So it didn't stack

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Speaker 3: up right, And this is exactly what's happening, which is

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Speaker 3: why we're evaluating the programs. But we've just brought online

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Speaker 3: young people. We have to give the judiciary confidence to

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Speaker 2: But we're very committed to that.

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Speaker 3: read out the data a couple of months ago, Katie,

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Speaker 3: I don't have it on me, but we've actually had

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Speaker 3: more adult prisoners go through programs and therapeutic supports in

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Speaker 3: our term of government than Labor did in the previous year.

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Speaker 3: And that's with all the strain, that's with six hundred

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Speaker 3: So we are deeply committed to this because we want

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Speaker 2: I mean, just like when you.

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Speaker 1: Talk about youth offenders and you know, and people really

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Speaker 1: pushing back saying that they shouldn't go into into correctional facilities.

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Speaker 1: When they are in correctional facilities, are they undertaking diversion programs?

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Speaker 3: So here in Darwin, we've just finished off the new

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Speaker 3: Youth Justice for which, oh god, cost about one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty million I think in the end, and so

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Speaker 2: You name it.

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Speaker 1: What do you say then, to those in the community

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I mean, like I said, take a few

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't working.

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Speaker 1: Later this morning, in about an hour, we are expecting

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Speaker 1: Want to see those findings?

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Speaker 2: But it'll be good to bring this to a close

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you are sort of preempting that there may

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that there will be, Katie, And

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Speaker 2: And you know, we will learn the lessons that need

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Speaker 3: Learned, and we'll respect respectfully tell the coroner that we

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister. A listener question in relation to power prices. Now,

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Speaker 3: Okay, And we certainly don't want, you know, rural people

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Speaker 3: But there's six months to go, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: Look, I won't rule it out.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister. The Northern Territory government today announcing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's exasperating for people in gosh. I've sat

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Speaker 2: So that's what this one hundred and two houses will do.

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Speaker 1: Well. Look, even over the weekend we had concerns raised

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Speaker 2: Who are exasperated by this.

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Speaker 2: And again it's not everyone.

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Speaker 2: So there is lots of work to do there.

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Speaker 3: We hear people's frustration, and it's why we're doing the

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Speaker 1: All right, Chief, just another issue that I want to

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Speaker 1: It is well an issue which has shocked the nation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It is horrifying what's happened in Victoria, and so Minister

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Speaker 3: Joe Hersey is mobilized straight away on that. We're looking

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Speaker 3: at what happens here in the Northern Territory in terms

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Speaker 3: of our safeguards.

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Speaker 2: But also we've put up our hands.

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Speaker 3: Straight away to work with the federal government as part

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Speaker 3: of establishing that national Working with Children clearance system. So

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Speaker 3: we have a you know, an OCA card system, but

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Speaker 3: there's a lot more that could be done. And I

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Speaker 3: think everyone you know understands the need to protect down

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Speaker 3: that confidence to drop their child off at childcare knowing

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Speaker 3: they're going to be nurtured, loved and kept safe.

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Speaker 1: I know that the NT News reported last week that

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Speaker 1: more than one hundred centers across the INT have gone

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Speaker 1: years without an assessment by the Northern Territory Regulator. Is

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Speaker 1: that acceptable in your eyes? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know the validity of that claim, So if

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Speaker 3: it's true, it's certainly not acceptable. But I just don't

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Speaker 3: understand the system well enough to comment directly. But what

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Speaker 3: people want is a robust system. They want to know

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Speaker 3: very the maximum amount that government can do is being

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Speaker 3: done and that the protections there are in place because people,

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Speaker 3: you know, we want people in the workforce, we want

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Speaker 3: people sending their kids to childcare to have that stimulation

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Speaker 3: with other children and activities and all of those things.

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Speaker 3: So it's an important part of life. But there's got

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Speaker 3: to be confidence that our kids are safe one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Just a really quick listener question, Hi, Katie, can you

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Speaker 1: ask the Chief Minister what is in the works to

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Speaker 1: move Vinnie's accommodation. Oh? Yeah, I cannot grow.

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Speaker 3: That is all happening, so I can't say much. It

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Speaker 3: hasn't been finalized yet, but we've been working really hard

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Speaker 3: since coming to government on that because we know that

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Speaker 3: two year time frame.

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Speaker 2: That clock is ticking.

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Speaker 3: So we're working with Vinni's Larichia Nation are a partner

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Speaker 3: in that project as well, and so we've been working

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Speaker 3: really closely with larik here around how they see the

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Speaker 3: best fit for that facility and location. So I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: in the next couple of months, certainly by the end

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Speaker 3: of the year I would have expected.

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Speaker 1: We haven't announced it, so can you assure those listening

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Speaker 1: that they're not going to stay in that sporting Coca.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly not our intention.

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Speaker 3: Now, whether it meets that two year time limit, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but they'd have to explain that to the DCA,

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Speaker 3: not to government.

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Speaker 2: But we're working as fast as we.

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Speaker 1: Can to find an alternative solution, Chief Andness, So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to leave it there. I know your press

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Speaker 1: for time, and we've got to get across to pay

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Speaker 1: some bills with the ads before we go the news.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you