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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is a fabulous comedian. She's an author,

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Speaker 2: she's a TV presenter. She's originally from New Zealand, but

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Speaker 2: we claim.

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Speaker 3: Her as one of our own.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like Crowded House and Split Ends and Dragon.

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Speaker 3: And all in the Pavlova.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's here to talk about a new SBS series

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Speaker 2: called Who the Bloody hell Are We, where she uncovers

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Speaker 2: some surprising stories from our multicultural history.

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Speaker 3: Hello Cal Wilson.

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Speaker 1: How are you good morning? I'm good?

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Speaker 4: So Cal? Is this about you finding stuff that New

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Speaker 4: Zealanders have event invented in Australia and we claim as

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Speaker 4: our own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's more than that. So Adam Leoor has

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Speaker 1: an episode where he took that Chinese immigrants contribution in

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Speaker 1: John San fran Hans Jewish immigrants contribution to Australia, And

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Speaker 1: all three episodes are just full of things to make

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Speaker 1: you go what.

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Speaker 2: What are some examples of the stuff that we thought

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Speaker 2: were ours and in fact are key we related?

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Speaker 1: Well, gosh, I don't want to do spoilers, but there

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Speaker 1: were so many amazing stories. It was a New Zealand

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Speaker 1: woman who first campaigned for equal pay for women and

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Speaker 1: Victoria and got it like a hundred years ago. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's not so exciting.

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Speaker 3: Well I think it is. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: We all know that we all know that farleap, we

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Speaker 1: all know about Russell Crowe, we all know about John Clark,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know about multi rugby players saving the

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Speaker 1: MRL when it was just started.

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Speaker 3: I did not know that.

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Speaker 4: No, no, that no, And I am not a sport.

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Speaker 1: Person, but I was like, oh my lord, like it's

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Speaker 1: so I spend my whole time just going wow as

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Speaker 1: people tell me amazing things.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be one? Because my husband's a Kiwi?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be one of those New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: now that constantly says oh, yeah, we've done that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done that. New Zealand. Does that better? Is

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Speaker 3: it going to be you?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I've achieved that many years ago, and

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Speaker 1: now it's just like a meaningful. Look, now you can

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Speaker 1: get that across.

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Speaker 4: I liked you. You just went to the snowy hydro

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Speaker 4: scheme and did to me a KEI we invented that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm afraid so the guy that did the whole

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Speaker 1: snow hydro electric scheme was a New Zealand engineer and

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Speaker 1: basically got a whole lot of men who had just

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Speaker 1: been in a war with each other and got them

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Speaker 1: got like united workforce, like a multicultural workforce. You've just

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Speaker 1: gone through the war and united them together as men

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Speaker 1: of the Snowy as opposed to men from individual different countries.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm getting so excited about talking about infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: but I literally but yeah, just like amazing, amazing feats

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Speaker 1: that we just don't think about about where they come from.

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Speaker 1: We just kind of accepted as part of Australia and

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Speaker 1: as a New Zealander. It's really exciting to go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we've actually contributed quite a lot. Like, yeah, it's been

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Speaker 1: really satisfying.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to the bottom of the rivalry regarding

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Speaker 3: the Pavlova?

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Speaker 1: Look, we talked about it, but I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's one of those ones that you just have to

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Speaker 1: move on from it. We're never going to agree with.

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Speaker 2: No, We're never going to agree on that. That's like

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Speaker 2: if we can never be friends, if we have to

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Speaker 2: have a solution for that.

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Speaker 4: But I guess cal as well, it's the it's the

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Speaker 4: true Australian way. This is what Australians do someone does something,

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Speaker 4: Oh you're good. I knew we could have done that.

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Speaker 4: It's just that they've already.

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Speaker 3: Done and over time we claim we have.

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Speaker 4: Then it just becomes you know, you're a part of

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Speaker 4: the multicultural society that is Australian.

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Speaker 3: I remember that happened when j just Sinda Adurn was our

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Speaker 3: Prime minister.

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Speaker 1: She was great for us, she did so, she was

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Speaker 1: really terrible for Australians that like to crep on New Zealand,

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Speaker 1: like she really harmed that.

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Speaker 3: I know that is true. Maybe we'll give her that's true.

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Speaker 4: That's true. Although hockey peky ice cream I do like that, and.

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Speaker 3: I reckon you could probably keep Russell Crowe.

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Speaker 1: I know he's yours.

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Speaker 4: Let's not make the feud run deeper, Amanda, there's no feud. Cal,

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Speaker 4: It's always great to talk to you. Who the bloody

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Speaker 4: hell are we is on SBS Tonight seven point thirty

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Speaker 4: and SBS on demand. Cal Wilson, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 1: You for having me, and I mean that as a

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Speaker 1: nation as well as just.

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Speaker 4: YouTube and indeed, thank you, Cal, your big blood. Hir