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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda gam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest played over seventy nine tests for the

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Speaker 2: Wallabies and was often described as a tenacious flanker and

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Speaker 2: a defensive warrior. Recently, he was announced as Rugby Australia's

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Speaker 2: new CEO, the first ex Wallerby to be given this

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Speaker 2: huge position. What does it mean for rugby union? Will

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Speaker 2: he be as good off the field as he was

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Speaker 2: on the field? Get ready, because here he is Australian

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Speaker 2: Rugby's Phil war Hello.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, And I like that description and hopefully I

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Speaker 3: will be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what a tenacious flanker?

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Speaker 2: No, you already know you're a tenacious flanker, which does

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Speaker 2: sound rude, but I know what it means in rugby terms.

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Speaker 2: But this is a really interesting position. When you were

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Speaker 2: playing rugby, Eddie Jones was your coach and now you're

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Speaker 2: his boss. Does that feel weird?

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Speaker 3: Well, he'll love that, but it's should be good fun.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think it's getting the role huge

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Speaker 3: on our huge privilege. But I think the most important thing,

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Speaker 3: like playing for the Wallabies, his performance and doing a

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Speaker 3: really good in the role. So she's on the other

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Speaker 3: foot a little bit now with Eddy, but we've had

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Speaker 3: a really strong relationship.

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Speaker 1: Well, you retired back in twenty eleven and rugby's really

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Speaker 1: taken quite the hit, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of been a pretty pretty tough time.

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Speaker 3: I think where we stood internationally and I think it

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Speaker 3: was at number seven in the world at the moment,

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Speaker 3: and when I retired with sort of on top one

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Speaker 3: or two, and so really important for us to get

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Speaker 3: back to one or two. And we have a good,

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Speaker 3: good opportunity World Cup this year, and we've got the

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Speaker 3: Britishnerical lines in twenty five and home World Cups in

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Speaker 3: twenty seven and twenty nine, so it's a good runway

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Speaker 3: we need to get back on top.

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Speaker 2: Apparently you delivered a fabulous stand up presentation when you

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Speaker 2: went for this position. You asked your vision for the

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Speaker 2: future of rugby and you're really excited the board. What

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Speaker 2: did you say that you were going to do to

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Speaker 2: shake it up or to what was your presentation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's probably pretty extensive presentation. But look, I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of it's around connection and I think

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Speaker 3: the amateur game personal games drifted apart over the last

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Speaker 3: decade or so, So how do we actually unite the game,

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Speaker 3: align the game, and I think it's really important for

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Speaker 3: us to sort of be one one team from from

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Speaker 3: club to country. And I think that that's what our

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Speaker 3: community is screaming out for. And you know, the game

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Speaker 3: doesn't belong to rugby Australia. The game belongs to to

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Speaker 3: the boys and girls in junior clubs and communities. So

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Speaker 3: really important for us to reconnect in the line across

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Speaker 3: the system.

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Speaker 2: It's at of life's great pleasures to go down to

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Speaker 2: your local field and watch the local rugby team. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll go down and watch Eastill, will go down and

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Speaker 2: watch Randwick. It's a great thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want you want that, you know, the local

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Speaker 3: rugby club to be you know, the beating high lot

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Speaker 3: of the community. And I think with the certainly with

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Speaker 3: the women's game growing more and more and the inclusiveness

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Speaker 3: of rugby is a sport and there's no reason why

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Speaker 3: the local rugby club company, you know, the local center

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Speaker 3: for the community and so really important for us to

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Speaker 3: do that. And how do you how do we bring

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Speaker 3: those those supporters through to the professional game as well

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Speaker 3: to support their players from from their area.

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Speaker 1: Exactly maybe it's you with your PowerPoint presentation.

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Speaker 3: Phil, that's right. It sounds really simple, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: A couple of texters presentation, it's done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have said, you know, I've got my head,

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Speaker 3: you know, beating up a little bit when I was playing.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought I've missed it so much. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go back into administration.

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Speaker 2: And get ahead kicking.

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Speaker 3: I did Jake though that when when I was playing,

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Speaker 3: at least I knew how those kicks were coming from

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Speaker 3: the opposition, not name team.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good.

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Speaker 3: Time, but a huge challenge and what I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: And have you got Eddie Jones to make your coffee yet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Not yet, not yet?

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Speaker 1: Often give me twenty Eddie.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it any winning that's the most important? Whatever he wants?

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Speaker 1: Well, Phil, it's great to charge you. The Rugby Championship

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Speaker 1: starts on July ninth. You can catch all the action

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Speaker 1: on Channel nine or seven sported straddling all the networks.

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Speaker 1: Phil war, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.