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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nason like Thursdays because it's pie Day.

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Speaker 2: Garlo drops all the pies up into the pie warmer.

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Speaker 1: I don't eat the pies because I'm tapering at the moment,

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Speaker 1: but I like the smell, just hanging.

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Speaker 2: Around for the smell.

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Speaker 1: And also your podcast You do with your good friend

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Speaker 1: are forensic psychologist Ananda McGregor drops a Chattery.

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Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, we spoke to my best

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Speaker 3: friend from my school days and she's a through line

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Speaker 3: in my life.

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Speaker 2: Is that the word?

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Speaker 3: Melanie. We've loved Barry Malow together, we travel together, it's everything.

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Speaker 3: She it was New Year's Eve where her daughter Jess,

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Speaker 3: who's twenty nine, I think thirty one something like that,

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Speaker 3: she went for a blood test. She'd been overseas, wasn't

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Speaker 3: feeling so great. She'd come back. She had a blood test.

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Speaker 3: She was in full renal failure, absolute full renal failure.

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Speaker 3: So the solution was a transplant, a kidney transper and

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Speaker 3: Melanie said that she would be the donor. We spoke

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Speaker 3: to Melanie and Jess before their surgery, and we spoke

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Speaker 3: to them the episode drops today. How they're going since

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Speaker 3: they're surgery it's interesting that mel had huge fear they

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Speaker 3: both did, of surgery. And as Melanie said, and she'd

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Speaker 3: been told about this, is that it's not a normal

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Speaker 3: thing to have an operation to remove a healthy organ.

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Speaker 3: So there's some psychological stuff that goes with that. But

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Speaker 3: when it's for your child, well she said, she didn't

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Speaker 3: question it.

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Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, so I said. When they said she's in renal,

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Speaker 4: faid Aaron shall have to go on dialysis and her

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Speaker 4: best hope is a transplant, then I said, pick me.

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Speaker 4: So we then started the process of doing that.

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Speaker 3: And that's not an easy process either. It's a detailed process,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 4: It's a detailed process and extremely thorough. So it's a

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Speaker 4: great way to get a complete grease and oil change.

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Speaker 3: The lengths you've gone to. So they were when we

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Speaker 3: first spoke to them. I didn't want to lean into

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Speaker 3: and even and I didn't want ask them about how

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Speaker 3: terrified they were at the idea of it. But Melanie's

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Speaker 3: very thorough. She had hip replacement a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 3: and I've had one too. But I asked no questions.

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Speaker 3: I didn't care, Just do it. She asked a million questions.

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Speaker 3: She wanted to know a million things about the surgery.

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Speaker 3: That's how she deals with her fear, and Jess also

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Speaker 3: had a lot of fears beforehand.

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Speaker 5: I think it was more so the fear of the unknown.

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Speaker 5: I think for me personally, the surgery was the biggest

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Speaker 5: thing because I'd never had a surgery in my life

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Speaker 5: and this is a pretty big surgery, so naturally I

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Speaker 5: was absolutely freaking out. But the way that the renal

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Speaker 5: teams and the coordinators handle all of this is great.

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Speaker 5: They ask or request you to go and see a psychiatrist.

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Speaker 5: They have a renal psych on team as well. You

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Speaker 5: can go see a private psych in the lead up

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Speaker 5: to your surgeries to make sure that you're as grounded

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Speaker 5: as you can be. So I went for four or

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Speaker 5: five sessions to make sure that I was okay. Because

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Speaker 5: my personal struggle was dealing with the actual surgery. I

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Speaker 5: didn't really care too much about the aftermath or anything,

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Speaker 5: because in my head, the immediate thing was the surgery.

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Speaker 5: So I needed to kind of get that fear out

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Speaker 5: of the way. And now that I look back on it,

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Speaker 5: easiest thing I've done.

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Speaker 2: And you don't think of that, do you really? You

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Speaker 2: just think a kidney transplant. It happens. There's a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of psychologists that can help me out through this.

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Speaker 2: If you're going through this right now.

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Speaker 3: Or through anything. We're so lucky to live in a

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Speaker 3: country with this stuff happened to you. And they helped

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Speaker 3: her narrow down, Okay, let's look at this. What is

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Speaker 3: your fear, let's work on that. And she went in

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Speaker 3: as prepared as she possibly could be, with all all

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Speaker 3: the tools she needed to get through it. And Melanie

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Speaker 3: said the same thing. She went in with huge fear,

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Speaker 3: and she said it's the easiest procedure she'd ever had,

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Speaker 3: and if she had a spare kidney that she could spare,

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Speaker 3: she'd do this for a stranger, because she said, really,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing to it.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Mel's and Jess's health improved instantly, So you felt better

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Speaker 5: Probably the previous five years. I'd just been masking how

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Speaker 5: I felt. I realized I felt quite mediocre for the

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Speaker 5: last five years, probably since I was like twenty five,

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Speaker 5: twenty six. And within a week I was like, I

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Speaker 5: get it, Like I'm full of energy. My skin completely

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Speaker 5: cleared up, my eyes were white as anything, and I

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Speaker 3: Well, she had high blood pressure, that's what happened. She

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Speaker 3: didn't have a kidney disease. She had high blood pressure

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Speaker 3: and that was destroying her organs and particularly her kidney,

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Speaker 3: which had stopped working pretty much. And she wasn't aware

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Speaker 3: of any of this. A young woman, she thought, I

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Speaker 3: don't feel well or feel whatever's that's what being young

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Speaker 3: and going out is about. So her big messages, if

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Speaker 3: you're not well, get yourself checked.

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Speaker 2: Double a Chattery. It drops today Thursday. Check it out.

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