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Speaker 1: Hello, Katiewolvan three point sixty online at Mix one O

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Speaker 1: four nine dot com.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, the Northern Territory government announced

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Speaker 2: that the Department of Education is going to be developing

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Speaker 2: an engagement strategy for all children and young people from

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Speaker 2: birth to year twelve. It includes young people in flexible

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Speaker 2: learning arrangements, non government schools and early childhood education services.

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Speaker 2: Now it has the aim of engaging every child and

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Speaker 2: young person in learning by listening to the voices of kids, will,

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Speaker 2: students as well as parents and the community to ensure

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Speaker 2: that education services really respond to their needs and their aspirations. Now,

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Speaker 2: joining us on the line to tell us a little

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Speaker 2: bit more about this strategy and how we may be

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Speaker 2: able to have our voices heard if we are keen

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Speaker 2: to it is the CDU Chair of the Education Engagement Strategy.

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Speaker 1: Reference Group, Professor Ruth Wallace. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Cody. They're lovely to be with you today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Ruth, I really appreciate you coming on to talk further

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Speaker 2: to us about this because there'll be so many people

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Speaker 2: listening to the show this morning.

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Speaker 1: Who either have kids that are at school.

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Speaker 2: You know, they've got really quite young people who are

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Speaker 2: maybe in childcare or getting ready to start those early

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Speaker 2: years of education. Maybe there's teachers and educational staff listening

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Speaker 2: as well who are keen to find out a bit

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Speaker 2: more about what this strategy is all about. I gave

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Speaker 2: a bit of an overview of what the aim is,

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Speaker 2: but can you talk us through it?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I think is it a beautiful overview. But

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Speaker 3: for I think what's really important is understanding that schools

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Speaker 3: are learning and institutions. They're changing all the time, and

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Speaker 3: we need to keep learning as we work through those processes.

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Speaker 3: So how do we make sure that we're changing to

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Speaker 3: improve schools? Learn from the best things that happen, share

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Speaker 3: great practice, but also things aren't working. What can we

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Speaker 3: do that's best. Schools aren't just about what happens in

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Speaker 3: the fall walls, of course, they're about, as you said,

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Speaker 3: parents and communities and all of that engagement. So I

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Speaker 3: think the strategy is about first a lot of listening

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Speaker 3: and finding out what people are finding that they like

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Speaker 3: about their schools and the like to share, but also

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Speaker 3: they'd like to see in the future.

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Speaker 2: And so who are you hoping to hear from as

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Speaker 2: part of this strategy, and as part of that listening

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Speaker 3: Well, schools at the center of communities in so many places,

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Speaker 3: so we need to hear from everybody. So you'll see

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Speaker 3: that children have been involved. Not only will they be

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Speaker 3: involved in the workshops, they'll be involved in putting in submissions.

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Speaker 3: They even help design the program. Students came up from

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Speaker 3: Catherine and helped shape how the language and the design

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Speaker 3: of the discussion paper would be developed. So kids are involved.

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Speaker 3: There's opportunities for families and communities to be involved. There's

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Speaker 3: a couple of ways to do that. One is the

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Speaker 3: how You Say website, which is how you Say dot NT,

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Speaker 3: dot gov, dot AU and there you'll find the education

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Speaker 3: Engagement strategy and so people can put in submissions as

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Speaker 3: an individual, as a group, as an organization, anyway that

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Speaker 3: works for you. There'll also be public forums and workshops

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Speaker 3: held in Darwin, Catherine, Alice Springs, Tenant Creek, and Lilan

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Speaker 3: Boy that people can attend and they can have their say,

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Speaker 3: and they will be an opportunity to talk as a

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Speaker 2: I reckon, it's such an important thing to do for

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Speaker 2: so many reasons. But I really like what you said

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Speaker 2: there about young people being involved in this as well.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know that there's so many.

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Speaker 2: Educational experts yourself included, and our teaching staff and and

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Speaker 2: you know, and parents as well are certainly very well

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Speaker 2: versed on what we think young people want. But I

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Speaker 2: reckon it's so important to also hear from young people

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Speaker 2: about what they feel is effective and what helps them

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Speaker 2: to really, you know, thrive. Right, we seem to have

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Speaker 2: lost you a little bit there, Ruth. I used to

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Speaker 2: well with us, we seem to have lost you. We

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Speaker 2: seem to have lost Ruth there. I'm not too sure

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Speaker 2: if we can get Ruth back on the line. But

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Speaker 2: just see if we're able to get her back on

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Speaker 2: is the Charles Dawen University Chair of Education Engagement Strategy,

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Speaker 2: and that reference group now we know that this is

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Speaker 2: all part of a strategy that the Northern Territory Department

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Speaker 2: of Education is developing. It's an education strategy for all

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Speaker 2: and it's about some of those flexible learning arrangements as

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Speaker 2: well as non government schools and the early childhood education services. Now,

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Speaker 2: I do think that we have got Ruth again, sorry Ruth,

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Speaker 2: we're having some technical issues there.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, we've got to learn from kids that every

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Speaker 3: time to technology to work.

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Speaker 1: They're the best with the technology.

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Speaker 3: So what I was just saying was that one of

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Speaker 3: The student leaders, they were very articate, they're very clear

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Speaker 3: about what matters to them and that must be where

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Speaker 3: we're going to start this program. But then we need

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Speaker 3: other people to speak as well from a number of

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Speaker 3: different perspectives.

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Speaker 2: Rose, what are some of the biggest challenges we've got

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Speaker 2: when it comes to education in the territory.

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Speaker 3: Oh, look, I think it's scale that we've got many

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Speaker 3: students who might be mobile, might be moving around, might

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Speaker 3: spake many different languages, might have had different experiences of

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Speaker 3: education over their lives, and all of those students need

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Speaker 3: to succeed. We need to have schools that engage with

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Speaker 3: the local community, local cultures, local languages, local experiences, but

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Speaker 3: also sure that those students are meeting the English and

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Speaker 3: literacy standards so that they've got the best opportunities in

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Speaker 3: the future. So it's not just about being in the classroom.

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Speaker 3: It's also about getting opportunities to get into work, integrated learning,

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Speaker 3: to be involved with different opportunities that you might not

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Speaker 3: have thought a part of the future with its university

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Speaker 3: or vest or work or you know, the world is

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Speaker 3: your oyster in the territory. You can be anything. There

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Speaker 3: is so many opportunities. How do we make that possible

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on.

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Speaker 2: You know, my kids are really young, but I've had

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Speaker 2: that conversation with them that you can be anything you

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Speaker 2: want to be, but you do need to make sure

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Speaker 2: you put in the work and education is such a

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Speaker 2: huge part of that and providing opportunities for you throughout

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Speaker 3: Really look God totally agree. And I'm a person who

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Speaker 3: never thought I would do much more than work in

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Speaker 3: up working in a university and being able to have

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to make schools better for others as well.

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Speaker 3: And that's because the territory gave me that opportunity, and

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Speaker 3: I think we need to do that for all our kids.

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Speaker 1: Oh good on your Ruth. That's so lovely to hear.

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Speaker 2: Now, if people are after some more info, where can

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Speaker 2: they head to, So have.

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Speaker 3: A look at the have your Say website Have your

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Speaker 3: Say dot nt dot gov dot AU Education Engagement Strategy.

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Speaker 3: We'll also be having public forums in Kashrom will be

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Speaker 3: the seventh of June, and Darwin on the eighth of June,

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Speaker 3: Alice Springs on the twenty seventh of June, and Tenet

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Speaker 3: exactly where all of those events will be. But they'll

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Speaker 3: a lot of information on the education dot NT, dot

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Speaker 3: able to track what's going on and hear about the

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Speaker 3: outcomes at the other end of the process.

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Speaker 2: Well, Professor Ruth Wallace's lovely talking to you this morning.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Cody, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And yes, that is CDU, chair of the Education Engagement

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Speaker 2: Strategy Reference Group, Professor Ruth Wallace there and that info

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Speaker 2: again if you are keen to jump online and have

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Speaker 2: your say, it is have your say dot NT, dot gov,

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Speaker 1: And I do think.

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Speaker 2: It's incredibly important that we do all make sure that

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Speaker 2: we have our voices heard in this space when we

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Speaker 2: talk about, you know, the way in which our children

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Speaker 2: are being educated, and yeah, the ways in which we

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Speaker 2: and adaptable so we can get the most out of

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Speaker 2: our young people and make it a positive experience for them,

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Speaker 2: if you know, in the in the most positive way possible.