1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer Podcast. This is the podcast where which 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: in your journey, We're here to help you be curious, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: life and stop letting life past you by, then you're 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: in the right place. Hello and welcome back to the 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: RNC Potty and Happy Friday. Today we have the third 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: episode of our Motherhood series in celebration of our brand 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: new course Rebirth, Doing Motherhood on your Own Terms. And 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Nadia and Color, the founders of the 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: Golden Month. If you guys don't know. The Golden Month 22 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: provides postpartum services. So Kala and Nadia have an amazing 23 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: understanding of what women need and I personally have used 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: the Golden Month after having Ivy, and basically it's a 25 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: service and they provide these really beautiful meals that have 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge of what your body needs from 27 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: like depletion, what you need for breastfeeding, and then also 28 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: services of like AQI puncher and massage at home. So 29 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: it's really about holding and nourishing and supporting women postpartum 30 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: and after going after being postpartum. I'm like, wow, this 31 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: is such an incredible company. So it was so cool 32 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to get Nadia and color On here to chat to 33 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: you guys. But you know, also just what they're doing 34 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: in regards to women's health and postpartum is just it's 35 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: it's so aflaudable. 36 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: It's such a beautiful interview as well. 37 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Often you can see like their purpose and passion. So 38 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: today we chat about obviously the struggles that women have 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: after birth, we learn how we can support women after birth. 40 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: What you know, of course, we're talking about mum Gil 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: pops up in every Motherhood episode and also the importance 42 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: of putting yourself first. So this is a really beautiful 43 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: quick episode. I think you guys are going to love. 44 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: But before we get into it, a tear a quick 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: weekly update. 46 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: I've had a pretty good week. 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: I us on every episode it's pretty good. I need 48 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: something deeper. Ooh, did you forget we were going to 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: do this? 50 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: No? 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, what trickered me this week? He said, Deep, 52 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah, anything, You've been sweet? 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: I think you've been kind of sweet. I have started 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: back with my fitness coach after fasting, so I'm working 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: on my habits and we're trying a different approach which 56 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: has been going really well. So instead of like focusing 57 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: on just hitting macros and going to the gym x 58 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: amount of times a week, we're doing a slow build 59 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: with habits that will get me there faster. So week 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: one was meal prepping this week's sleep so bed by 61 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: nine pm up at five am every day no matter what. 62 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: And then it's like I have to maintain and then 63 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: build the next habit on each week. And I'm loving 64 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: it because I'm so much more excited about it than 65 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: I was first time round. 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Wow, I love that. Have it stacking what a vibe. 67 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you? How's your week been? 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: It's been interesting. 69 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Nah, I'm not gonna lie. I obviously got back from Badara. 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: It was fucking incredible. It was oh just having me 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: and Tim time, especially because Tim is doing like a 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: lot of self development at the moment, and he's just 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: like so much more conscious in our relationship and so 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: we're able to have these incredible deep conversations and he's 75 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: able to really take me deeper and challenge me, like mentally, 76 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I love that. Intellectually, yeah, and we haven't like I 77 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: don't like, I don't mean like he hasn't had intellect, 78 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: but it's like we haven't really done that on this 79 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: level before. So it's really interesting because what we realized 80 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: too is you do need the time and space to 81 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: do that. Like he has the capacity, but it's a 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: lot of the time of because we're putting Ivy to bed, 83 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: or because we then got to you know, do the 84 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: next thing, or you only get these small spaces of 85 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: time as parents, you often really do miss that almost 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: deeper layer of your relationship because you literally just don't 87 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: have the space and time. 88 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Just so much doing. 89 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much doing and so it was so 90 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: incredible to have that time together. It was really really 91 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: beautiful and nourishing for our relationship. But it is interesting, 92 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I kind of had a lot of Aha moments that 93 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: fucking made me rethink so much of how I do life. Yeah, 94 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: so I love those our home moments, but it's like 95 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: kind of you come back and you've like got a 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: lot to do. 97 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now I. 98 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Feel a bit like, oh, I've got to implement this 99 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: because a huge thing like this is what I truly 100 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: believe the missing piece of self development is. Everyone loves 101 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: listening to self development, but the actual implementing self development 102 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: is where people don't do the thing. And so I'm 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: huge on implementation, and so I'm really kind of like 104 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: figuring out what that now looks like in my life. 105 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Now I've had that aha moment because so many people 106 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: have the aha moment. They listen to the episode, they 107 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: listen to the course, blah blah blah, and they're like, yes, 108 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: I'd love that motivation, but then they don't actually implement. 109 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: But if you try and implement too fast, it doesn't stick. 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: So I'm really spending this week being like, oh, Okay, 111 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: what does this actually look like? 112 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Do you find that you've ever forgotten aha moments. 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: All the time. 114 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, fuck me too. I've started writing 115 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: them down. I've got a book and then I've also 116 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: got a page in like my personal notion, which I've 117 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: got downloaded on my phone and on my computer, so 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: whenever it comes to me, I literally just write it 119 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: on that page and then I deal with it when 120 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: I have the time and mental space. So hot tip 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: for it. 122 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I love that and it is and that I have. 123 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: I used the Life Happens for Me journal and I 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: just have so many like scribbles and notes in there, 125 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: and anytime like I'm lacking, you know, inspiration on something, 126 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I literally just look in that journal and I'm like, fuck, 127 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: so many moments that I haven't implemented, So that that 128 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: is the huge thing. And yes, so anyway, that has 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: been my week. But guys, I just want to say 130 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I am so excited for rebirth coming May twenty fourth. 131 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: We have had so many incredible RNC moms, moms to 132 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: be actually there's also people in there who aren't moms, whoo, 133 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: which I won't be alone. I tear and like to 134 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: other people, but I'm just so excited, like I said, 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I know this course is it's very niche, and it's 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: it's actually it's ruffling some feathers, Isn't it true? Is 137 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: it's ruffling some feathers. But that fucking excites me because 138 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, because this isn't normalized, and that it 139 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: needs to be normalized. Mothers doing motherhood on their own 140 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: terms needs to be the fucking normal. Yeah, not you 141 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: having to put yourself in a box. Because I feel 142 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: like women, we've come such a long way with our careers. Yeah, 143 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: have you noticed that with our careers, We're like, yeah, 144 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: I can fucking be whoever I want. But motherhood is 145 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: such an interesting identity that people have not yet normalized. 146 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: Still the eighth from the eighteen hundreds, well. 147 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I wouldn't yeah, like I wouldn't go that fast. Yeah 148 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: that's dramatic, but Tea not even a mom. 149 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: I love that. 150 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Still doing the no but yeah, it's so it's really 151 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: interesting even like some yeah, some of the feedback, I'm like, Wow, 152 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: this is how I know I'm on the right track, 153 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: because like we are actually trailblazing in this department of 154 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: like how needed this is. Like we're literally just talking 155 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: about mindset and identity work and the fact that no 156 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: one thinks you should do it when you're no one sorry, 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: the fact that it's not normalized to do when you're 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: a mother is just it blows my mind absolutely, like 159 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: a tear saw firsthand how messed up mindset wise I 160 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: was for twelve months because I didn't do this work. 161 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: And then a tear saw firsthand once I did this 162 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: work of how much I shifted into my. 163 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Power and it was amazing. 164 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: It inspired me to do it exactly. And so guys, 165 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: rebirth it's about doing motherhood on your own terms. It 166 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: is a mindset and identity course. We are upgrading your mindset. 167 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: We're upgrading your frequency. You're about to shift into a 168 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: whole new frequency of life. And when you can move 169 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: into a whole new frequency, you do life differently. You 170 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: attract different things, you have different energy for your family, 171 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: you have I'm getting a excited. It tears looking at 172 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: me because these injurians are always like twenty minutes long, 173 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: and she's like, bitch, rain it back. It's fun. Yes, 174 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: it's about shifting your whole frequency, and it's about this 175 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: whole course is about choosing to play in a realm 176 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: of motherhood where you absolutely get like you absolutely get 177 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: to have it all, and if you currently feel like 178 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: you don't, this course is for you. Yeah, And of 179 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: course I do, like I want to preface this. Of course, 180 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: there's going to be challenges. Of course there's going to 181 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: be ups and downs. But then when you have this mindset, 182 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: like you can hear it in my voice, when you 183 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: have this mindset and this identity work around being a mom, 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: You're like, fuck, no one can stop me. I Am 185 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: literally unshakable. And then imagine being that role model for 186 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: your child, children, people around you, for your family, but 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: also the bigger aspect, imagine having that for you. I 188 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: think about myself last year and the mental state that 189 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: I was about myself was that was not okay. And 190 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: I know it was only temporary, but I would not 191 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: wish that on like any person in regards to how 192 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: they feel about themselves. And I know from personal experience 193 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: from my friends and family that so many people normalize that, 194 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: and I just I just disagree. I disagree. So That's 195 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: why I'm so passionate about this course. It is so potent. 196 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: We've already got so many moms mums to be also 197 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot of moms with older children who were kind 198 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: of like you know, I don't have new babies. This 199 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: is actually an identity I've been in for a very 200 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: long time, but I want to change it. I want different. 201 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: And if you want different, you've got to move different, 202 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: You've got to do something different. I love thanks, dear. 203 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: Oh. 204 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: We also have a full episode explaining rebirth. If you 205 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: do want some more information, so go check that out. 206 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I think we'll link that. 207 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: In the show notes, and then we'll also link all 208 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: the information on the website about reading both in the 209 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: show notes. 210 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: Amazing and if you do have any questions, make sure 211 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: you dm R and C not me. Do not come 212 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: on my DMS. It's not the place, crazy place, and 213 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm just not in there. So yes, anyway, let's get 214 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: into this beautiful episode. Nadia and Carla, Welcome to the 215 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Rights and Conquered Podcasts. 216 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having us. 217 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Thank you Now, guys, we are recording with three people, 218 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: so bear with us. Guys, thank you so much for 219 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. It is so incredible. Like I 220 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: was saying off air, I love what you guys have created. 221 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: I have been so one who personally uses the Golden 222 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: Month and so it was really, really, I guess, just 223 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: incredible to have you on the Motherhood Series because the 224 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Motherhood Series is all about doing motherhood on your own terms. 225 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: So first of all, though, before we get in it, 226 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: do you want to just introduce yourself and what you do. 227 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: Yes. 228 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: So I'm Carlor and I'm one half of the Golden Month. 229 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: My background is traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture and that's 230 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: kind of how I met Nadia through my fertility work 231 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: work with women's health in Adelaide, and our past just 232 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 4: crossed organically. 233 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 234 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 5: So, and I I'm a little bit more of the 235 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: food side of things. So my focus has always been 236 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: like fertility care, pregnancy care, and with the postpartum period. 237 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 5: Me and Carla we shared a lot of client that'd 238 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: come to me for massage and see her for acupuncture, 239 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 5: and then we would just not see these women for 240 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: a couple of years. That'd kind of just like go 241 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: into their little cocoon. And I think that's kind of, 242 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: you know, the way that our society used that time 243 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: as well. They're just kind of left to themselves with 244 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 5: very little resources. I me and Karla just were, you know, 245 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: just kept talking about it and we're like wow, you know, like, oh, 246 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 5: we've just heard from Jess who we you know, she 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 5: had her baby three and a half years ago and 248 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: she's having another baby now. So we just saw that 249 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: really big gap in the Western culture and care. So yeah, 250 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: that's how we birthed the Golden Month together. 251 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: Yes, so it was I. 252 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: Think it was like a ten minute conversation and then 253 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: we read it all down on paper. Wow, this is 254 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: actually a thing, like this could be a business, and 255 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: we just like nutted it out really quickly and then 256 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: launched it the next day and then it just got 257 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: so much love and traction we're like, oh, okay, we should. 258 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Probably get a business name and a logo on a 259 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: website now. Yeah. 260 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 5: So we're basically for the last four years we have 261 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 5: been nourishing mums after they have their babies with meal delivery, 262 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: all based on Chinese and aabetic medicine. And then we've 263 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 5: also had a team of practitioners around Australia, so we 264 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: would go into the home and you know, make sure 265 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: mum's having a beautiful bark, she's eating well, and then. 266 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: We would do treatment with her. 267 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: So that would be either a nice message or acupuncture. 268 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: Mother warming and. 269 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: Just bringing that, you know, that Eastern cultural care where 270 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: women really thrive, trying to really break that into the 271 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: western broken culture in Australia so. 272 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: Incredible. And as someone who has experienced the love from 273 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, the Golden Month at such an important time, 274 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: the work you guys are doing is so so important. 275 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: I would love to know from your point of view, 276 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: why do you think there's such a gap in between 277 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, women having babies and then you know, being 278 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: quote unquote forgotten about. 279 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: I think it just isn't that wisdom that's passed down. 280 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: I think our culture, I don't know if it didn't 281 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: really have it ingrained into the way we do things, 282 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: or if it's just kind of been forgotten because we've 283 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: become so independent, you know, the idea of the village 284 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: and that sisterhood. We're so disconnected and we're so independent 285 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: and all like women mums were all wearing so many hats, 286 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: and I think we have that almost mentality that we've 287 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: got to do it all, you know, I've got to 288 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: wear all the hats and. 289 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: Kind of just get on with it. And so it's 290 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: just the way we're. 291 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: Taught, like we've never been told the things that they 292 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: do in Asian and European cultures, where it's the simplest things, 293 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: like you know, just keeping warm and laying down and 294 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: getting everyone to come and help and cook and clean 295 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: for you, and not doing the things that we all 296 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: just kind of get on with and do here. And 297 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: there is that disconnect of like everyone kind of living 298 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: so isolated within the home. There's no like village or 299 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: community feel. 300 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: And we are still quite a young nation, like Australia 301 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: is still quite fresh and young in itself, so I 302 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: guess our culture is sort of yet to be really paved. 303 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 5: So I think everyone is trying to find their way. 304 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: And a lot of people that were coming into this country, 305 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: you know, they were coming in on their own, so 306 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: they didn't have their family support either. So when they 307 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: started having children, they weren't relying on that care from 308 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 5: their mothers because they were in an overseas country or 309 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: something like that. So I feel like, you know, over time, 310 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: we're going to start building this different culture. But being 311 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 5: such a fresh culture in itself, just lacking, like Carlo said, 312 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: just lacking that wisdom and knowledge. 313 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because Ivy, I'm even reflecting with my 314 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: own mom and even though you know, she did have 315 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: her mum and her sisters here. I remember her saying 316 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: a lot when we were growing up that it's like 317 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: almost like a badge of honor that she did do 318 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: it all and she didn't have help, and like almost 319 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: that kind of well, my job as the stay at 320 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: home mom is to do it all, and you know, 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: we never really got a lot of help from our 322 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: grandma's or anything like that. My mum really took it 323 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: on herself, and obviously she did the most incredible job. 324 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: But it is funny that now I think of it 325 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: is like that was really reflected to me as normal. 326 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: Yeap, of course, yeah, definitely. 327 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: And so could you tell us a bit more about 328 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, in other countries and modalities of like what 329 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: are the key things that we can do postpartum that 330 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: really really help in that you know, really sensitive postpartum time. 331 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: I guess I'm like the background of Chinese medicine where 332 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: I come from. The big thing is is warmth and rest. 333 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: Are really avoiding cold foods, raw foods and cold drinks, 334 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: even showering and wash your washing your hair like bathe 335 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: get people to support you. They really focus about staying 336 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: on the bed, and in the bed and in the bedroom, 337 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: calling in grandma, mother in law, sister to do all 338 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: the things for you. So you're basically just feeding and sleeping, 339 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: so you're bonding with your baby and you're healing because 340 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: it's a really really precious time to look after your 341 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: future health and future fertility and all your hormones. 342 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: Because we're so depleted and weak that. 343 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: If we continue to just live like we haven't just 344 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: grown in birth the baby, we almost put our body 345 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: into this negative deficit. So what we're doing now in 346 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: our postpartum will be reflected in the next forty years, 347 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: you know, even in our menopausal years. 348 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: So warmth and rest is really key. 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: And it can take, like you know, for women that 350 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 5: just jump straight back into things, I think you feel 351 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: really good for a few weeks, but then that depletion 352 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 5: starts to really set in and that can take you know, ten, fifteen, 353 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: twenty years to really truly recover hones sarily alerlent level. 354 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 5: So and I think that's what these other cultures they 355 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 5: understand that. So it's really about nurturing women in that time, 356 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: not just for that special time with her baby, but 357 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 5: it is for that longevity of life, and you know, say, 358 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: how you spend the first forty days is how you'll 359 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: spend the next forty years. 360 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: And that's always such a beautiful reminder. 361 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 5: With the mums, it's like, oh, it's not just about 362 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: this time, it's also about that long future ahead. 363 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: So so important, and I like, I would love to 364 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: know because I know you both have very different postpartum journeys, 365 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: but I would love to know you know, what your 366 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: experiences were and what you learned from them. 367 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: For myself, because Nanna and I actually had what what 368 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: was my first baby and Natti's third baby. I think 369 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 4: they were about three months apart, so that's kind of 370 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: it was after we kind of came out of that 371 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: fog and that phase that we were like, wow, there's 372 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: literally nothing for women, Like there's no meals, there's no 373 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: in home care, there's all this stuff missing that we need. 374 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: And I think for myself, knowing everything from a Chinese 375 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: medicine background and having all that knowledge yet still not 376 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: using it or even applying it or even thinking about 377 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: it in my postpartum it kind of just knocked me 378 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: for six because I was like, oh wait, Like I 379 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: put so much focus and emphasis on the birth and 380 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 4: the you know that the nursery and all those things, 381 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: and I just kind of forgot about the postpartum and 382 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: how that could look. And I didn't educate my family 383 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: and my friends and my partner of what I needed. 384 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: So when I was in it, I just kind of, 385 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: you know, did the thing and eat toast and drink 386 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: coffee and do the things it probably shouldn't do because 387 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: I was in that survival mode and didn't set myself 388 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: up for a. 389 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: Good postpartum period. 390 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: And then it was complicated because I had emergency cesarean 391 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: for my first and I didn't even think about the 392 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 4: possibility of that. So when I was like in bed 393 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: for a long time and recovering and didn't have all 394 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: the things that I really needed, Yeah, it really really 395 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: knocked me about. And it wasn't until like six months 396 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: later that I fell in a heap. I think like 397 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 4: that postpartum depression really caught up on me because like 398 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: that flight of fire and survival mode kicked, I guess 399 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 4: wore off, and then I was like WHOA, I just 400 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know how I got through that, and 401 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: you just really are in that survival mode. So it 402 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: was really a real reminder of what we don't do 403 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: and what we need to do in this culture. 404 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: And I guess for myself, I've got the four children, 405 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: so I've had so many different experiences. 406 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: My incredible Yeah. 407 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 5: My first son, I was seventeen when I had him, 408 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 5: and we come from a very big Italian family, so 409 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 5: I had so much support and it was just amazing, 410 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: you know, between my mom and my cousins, everyone was 411 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 5: just like filling up my freezer and making sure that 412 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 5: we were okay. And it wasn't until my second so 413 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: me and my daughter's father separated when I was pregnant. 414 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: And I think it's coming back to a little bit 415 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: what your mom was like in terms of that sense 416 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: of pride. I think I was like, Okay, I'm a 417 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 5: single mom, but I can do everything all by myself. 418 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 5: And I really put on that, you know, that face 419 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 5: in front of everyone that I was fine. And I 420 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 5: would even have my sisters and mom like, oh, we 421 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: can bring you food or we can do this, and 422 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 5: we could do that. But I was just really just 423 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 5: trying to hold myself together because I felt a lot 424 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: of shame for being a single mom through the whole 425 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 5: preg and see, with a four year old, so I 426 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 5: was just like no, no, no, everything's fine, and yeah, 427 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 5: just totally destroyed, destroyed me. I had so many health 428 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 5: issues popping up, like you know, a year or so 429 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 5: down the track, and you know, she I breastfed her foremost, forever, 430 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: this child. 431 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: She was just really clinging and just wanted to breastfeed 432 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: all the time. 433 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 5: So I was just like constantly depleted and living off 434 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: coffee and wine and all the things that you should 435 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 5: not be doing as a new mother. So then when 436 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 5: it came to our third, so me and Carla were 437 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 5: pregnant together, I'd done my studies by then, and Carla 438 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: was qualified in her studies. 439 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: And even when. 440 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: You've got all that knowledge once again without having the 441 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 5: services that you can tap into, it just seems like 442 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: a little bit more of a challenge. And I think 443 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 5: sometimes it's like you know that you should be doing 444 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: all these things, but you're exhausted and you put something 445 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 5: on the pot and it burns, and you've got all 446 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 5: these kids running around. So yeah, that pregnancy with my 447 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 5: third and Carla's first was and that postpartum period was like, 448 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 5: you know, I guess the universe tapping on our shoulders, 449 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: like hey, you girls can do this, so you know, 450 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 5: just yeah, so important to have certain services around that 451 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 5: we can all use and utilize. 452 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: I love that so much. And it's funny because we all, 453 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, we have different postpartum journeys, but there's a 454 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: lot of similar things pop up and something that is 455 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's when we have hindsight, we can be like, oh, 456 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I should have slowed down, I should have looked after 457 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: myself more like I remember when I went in for 458 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: my checkup, my GP saying a woman's body doesn't get 459 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: her full nutrients and everything back for twenty four months 460 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: after you know, she gives birth, so just you know, 461 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: take that into consideration. And I thought, oh my god, 462 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: that is just yeah, like that is a long time 463 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: for us to rej nate. And I, you know, I 464 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: went back to work after maybe three months, I think, 465 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: and it did feel like a look and I like, 466 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I love my postpartum journey and it had all its 467 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: ups and downs, but there is this kind of thing 468 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: of what you think you should do, So I, you know, 469 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,239 Speaker 1: I should just get on with it. I should just 470 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: go back into routine. And I think also during the 471 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: transition of becoming a mother, especially you know, from when 472 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: you don't have children to going to have a baby 473 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: is it's so different and it's so out of your control. 474 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: And I did notice myself wanting to go back into 475 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: certain routines to have some sort of comfort and control 476 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: in my life. Yeah. Did you guys experience that? 477 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 478 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: I found that a lot with exercise, because I feel 479 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 5: like that's the next step to really regaining like time 480 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 5: to yourself, for you know, getting to a gym class, 481 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 5: yoga classes, like okay, I am I am me. I'm 482 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 5: also a mother to all these children. But I feel 483 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 5: like that's you know, that little bit of lost identity 484 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: when it comes to your body and being able to 485 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 5: move and all. 486 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: That sort of stuff. Autonomy, Yeah, definitely. 487 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: I think it's like even just things like oh I 488 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: should do the washing and I should keep this house 489 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: nice and tidy, and I feel like I've got to 490 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: be on top of all this when you know it's 491 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: still going to be there tomorrow and there's going to 492 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 4: be a new pile of washing and a new stack 493 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: of dishes. 494 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: And it's never going to go away. So that's really hard. 495 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: Like the little day to day things which don't actually matter, 496 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: they feel they feel huge because it's that like, yeah, 497 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: that control, Like oh, if I can just keep my 498 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: house nice, I'll feel a little bit better, or that 499 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 4: sense of normality, and yeah, living day to day, I 500 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: think all that stuff whilst it's small, yeah, it feels big. 501 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: And this time, like this is my third post part 502 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, ah, I can deal with the mess. 503 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: I just want to clean. But now I'm like, take 504 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: it easy, just take it ease. 505 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 4: And for me, one of the biggest things that I 506 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: think is the reminder is that when you know your 507 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: plasenter comes out, it leaves a giant wound on your insides, 508 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: like the size of a dinner plate. So you have 509 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 4: to be mindful that you're walking around with this giant 510 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: wound and you're bleeding, you know, forget about all the 511 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 4: other things that you're kind of carrying on with. But 512 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 4: if we had this wound on the outside that we 513 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 4: could see every day, this giant dinner plate wound, we 514 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: would definitely slow down and we would. 515 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: Be more mindful. 516 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: But because we can't see it and no one else 517 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: can see it, it's almost like it doesn't exist. So 518 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: it's just like finding the reminders to keep you present. 519 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 3: And slow down. 520 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: Do you find that from you know, before starting the 521 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: Golden Month to now being in it, that you had 522 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: different postpartum journeys. 523 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I think because I had far round my daughter, 524 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: and then we started the Golden Month and then I 525 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 4: had a lucre and I had I had to stay 526 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 4: in hospital for a week because he got sick, and 527 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 4: I had all the meals delivered to the hospital, so 528 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 4: instead of eating hospital garbage, I got to eat all 529 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: my food. 530 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: When I got home, I had so my body felt 531 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: a lot better. 532 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm two weeks postpartum now and I've had 533 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: meals and I've had a treatment already, and. 534 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean, look at you, girl. You look amazing. 535 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: Literally when you're like I just had a baby, I 536 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: was like what. 537 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 5: And I loved, Like my postpartum experience with Leilani was 538 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 5: so nice, like especially the in home care and just 539 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: having things on hand, like the womb balm, like when 540 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: I was getting those post crampy feels, like just having 541 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 5: a little tool kit that was there, that was just 542 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: readily available, and you know, just that food. 543 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: You know. 544 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 5: I think it's just easier sometimes as well to purchase 545 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 5: something for yourself or your partner can purchase it for 546 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 5: you as opposed to relying on that village because we 547 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 5: live in a totally different culture where you know, our parents. 548 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: Are still working, our sisters are. 549 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 5: Working, so it's a little bit harder to ask for 550 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: that help as well, whereas everyone's like, oh, you know, 551 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: ask people for help for help, but in reality, everyone's 552 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 5: burnt out. In our culture, everyone's working a lot later 553 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 5: in life, so you know, ninety percent of grandparents are 554 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: still working till six o'clock and then you're like, hey, 555 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: can you bring me a meal? Like it just doesn't 556 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 5: feel it doesn't feel nice or right to us sometimes. 557 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, just having those things they're available. And I 558 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: think as well with Leilani, she was my fourth, so 559 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 5: everyone's like, oh, yeah, she's got it, like she's she's 560 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 5: done this four times now, and I'm like, oh, I'm 561 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 5: still exhausted. I'm like running after these kids. I still 562 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: just carried and birthed a baby. So I feel like 563 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 5: every child that you have the support and village just 564 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 5: gets a little bit more dimmed. So being able just 565 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 5: to have that food and those certain things just yeah, 566 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: made it such an enjoyable time. And I was just 567 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: super chilled and yeah, we loved it. I wish I 568 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: could get back, went to great. 569 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: That's incredible, And I think it's also it is so 570 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: interesting because that's actually I was talking to my sister 571 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: in law about this because she has two children, and 572 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: she was saying, you know, even when you first have 573 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: a baby and you have everyone who wants to come 574 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: over and see it, so you have that initial like influx. 575 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: And then she kind of said because she had her 576 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: first baby when she was twenty one, And then she said, 577 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: and then you kind of just don't see anyone for months, yeah, 578 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: because it's just kind of like, oh, yeah, they want 579 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: their space, they've got a new baby, so I'll just 580 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: leave it. And she noticed such a disconnect in like 581 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: almost like that follow up take it off the box. 582 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: I've seen the baby, and then not that you know, 583 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: village feeling all. 584 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like no support anymore. Like the first two weeks, 585 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: people like, how are you feeling? And then after that, 586 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: like life goes on. 587 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah yeah, and then how have you guys gone? 588 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of children in between you running you know, 589 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: an incredible business. What has that looked like in this 590 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: season chaos? 591 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: How could it not, because there's seven between us, and 592 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: there's two weeks to eighteen years, and a lot of 593 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: it is like bringing babies to the office, you know, 594 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: wearing babies in airport's, going to look at interstate leases, 595 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: and we even went to the baby you know, the 596 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: baby exposed expose. 597 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: All of that. And we're doing all on our own, 598 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: like not no partners to help us. 599 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: So we've got babies on us, or wheeling babies, or 600 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: we've got toddlers playing in. 601 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 5: The trying to sell things at an expo with the 602 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 5: crying baby. You're a rocking and andten. 603 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: Like we have a babysitter that we used to have 604 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: a babysitter that would come to one house and look 605 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: after the children one days that they weren't in care. 606 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: So it is they've come along for the ride, and 607 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: they've been so good, like they just rucked and they 608 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 4: just kind of get on with it. And yes, they've 609 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: all been really amazing. I think it's been hard because 610 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: having your own business, you don't have nine to five. 611 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: It's like kind of always on. 612 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: As much as you try and disconnect, you you would 613 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: know you really really can't at times, especially when it 614 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 4: is like times of stress and there are things going 615 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: on in the business where you kind of need to 616 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: be switched on, so you feel like, yeah, your office 617 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: ares are always open and you're always on your phone, 618 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: and I think with that that comes that level of guilt, 619 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: like that mum gilt, which is really hard because whilst 620 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: you're around them a lot more than say it, you know, 621 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: someone who's going to the office nine to five and 622 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: not being there with them. Physically, you're with them, but 623 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: you may not have that full attention and that full 624 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: you know, that time to give to them. 625 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: So it's kind of that double edged sword. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 626 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: and it is. 627 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: I think it's just about yeah, we're just like constantly 628 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 5: micro managing a million and one thing. But yeah, I 629 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: guess we wouldn't have it any other way. 630 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: On that note, No, it's so true, and that's what 631 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: it is. Of I often, you know, think about it 632 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: of you know, you always go back of oh did 633 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: I go to work too soon? Do I spend too 634 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: much time at work? Do I not spend enough time 635 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: with Ivy? But it is like, I notice I had 636 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: to really change my schedule around so I actually don't 637 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: see my I don't see Ivy in the morning. So 638 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: my husband is a stay at home dad. I don't 639 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: see her in the morning because I get up early 640 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: and I, you know, either go straight to work or 641 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I go to gym and then I go to work, 642 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: and I do that because I can usually get in 643 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: like two more hours while she's sleeping. She's a great sleeper, 644 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: and then I try and get home a little bit 645 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: earlier so I can spend you know, that time. And 646 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: it was interesting because when I was trying to navigate 647 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: this period of like figuring out a schedule that worked 648 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: for us, you do you constantly go through, oh, but 649 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: should I be doing this? Should I be doing that? 650 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: And constantly second guessing yourself, and then until you get 651 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: to a point where you're like, I have to kind 652 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: of come to terms with not only do I have 653 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: this child that I love so much that of course 654 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: I want to spend time with intentional time, but I 655 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: also have this business that I love so much, and 656 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: you know, what's the purpose and what I'm doing for 657 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: is also really fucking incredible, and so it is it's 658 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: like this constant dance and going back and forth. But 659 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, for me, anyway, 660 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: it's like knowing that my life gets to look a 661 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: little bit different to other people's and that's okay because 662 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: I am so like intentional with my time and I'm 663 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: so intentional with I guess what I want. 664 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 4: And I think being like one of our purpose is 665 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 4: to kind of create the change and pave the way 666 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: for our children and their children. So, you know, I 667 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: had daughters, postpartum experience will hopefully look a lot different. 668 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: So by the time they're ready to have children, there's 669 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: the narratives change and the change is being created. 670 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, it's a flow and 671 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 3: effect as well. So yeah, getting your head down and 672 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: bum up and trying to get it done. 673 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're doing amazing at it. I would love 674 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: for you guys to tell us. You know, what's something 675 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: that you wish you could tell every new mum. 676 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: That's hard, I think what we're going back to before. 677 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: For me, it's like accept help, even though it's so 678 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 4: hard and it doesn't feel right, and it's so kind 679 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: of what we're used to. If someone does offer, take it, 680 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 4: take it, take it, and if you can ask, then 681 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 4: you know, have the bravery, not even bravery, but just 682 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: taking that time to just recognize that you don't have 683 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 4: to do it on your own, and asking for help 684 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 4: as much as you can and outsourcing whatever you can. Yeah, 685 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: that the help thing is just the biggest thing I 686 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: can pass on. And we're all kind of guilty of 687 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 4: kind of do it all on our own because I 688 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 4: thought I used to. 689 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: But I think that makes a big difference. 690 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 5: I think my word of advice would be preparing these 691 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 5: things during your pregnancy. I mean, we've even had women 692 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 5: that have been given a gift voucher with the Golden 693 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 5: Month for either like the Golden Package, which is quite 694 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 5: an investment, or a one month food delivery, and they 695 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 5: reach out to us when their baby is two months 696 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: old and go, oh my god, like I totally forgot 697 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 5: I had this voucher and we've just been in like 698 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: the thick of it, Like it's kind of like you're 699 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 5: walking around with this blindfold on, I guess, and then 700 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 5: they get out of it and they're like, oh, I 701 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 5: should have done X y Z. Whereas if you've pre 702 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 5: booked things, pre ordered things, you know you've got a 703 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 5: meal train set up with your family, freezers full of food, 704 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 5: and you've got all of these resources around you, then 705 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 5: you're not going to forget about it in those first 706 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: couple of weeks where it's really critical to be like 707 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 5: looking after yourself. 708 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 709 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: I love also the idea of like having that conversation 710 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: with the people you have around with you know, your husband, 711 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: your partner, your parents, any anybody who you feel like 712 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: you could have that intimate support with, really having that 713 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: conversation of you know, I do want you there and 714 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: I do want you to support me. And so they 715 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: also feel like, you know, they're not stepping on toes 716 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: rightings like that. 717 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: That's right educating because they don't know and we don't know, 718 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: and often like you don't know until. 719 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: You're in it. So once you're in an you can't 720 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: really see clearly. So it's like really. 721 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: That preparation and all like not just for yourself, but 722 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: your village as well. 723 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: That's incredible and lovely, ladies. The last question, so this 724 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: is a question we have asked all our guests in 725 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: the Motherhood series, but what is your favorite part of 726 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: getting to do motherhood on your own terms? 727 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting. 728 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 4: I think it is being able to what we were 729 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: talking about before is like kind of bringing our family 730 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 4: along to the ride wigs of the same and everything's 731 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: really different and really involving our kids in our work. 732 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, just having it look completely different every day, 733 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 4: and yeah, our children being part of our bigger picture 734 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 4: and our greater cause. I think that's the best part. 735 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: And you know, you're on your own time schedule and 736 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 4: you can do things like, you know, like for example, 737 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: recording this podcast like in the middle of the day 738 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: on a Monday with like children around, and yeah, it's 739 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: just nice to be able to kind of create your 740 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 4: own schedule. And I guess, yeah, make it look how 741 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 4: you want it to. 742 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely I agree with that. And I guess, you know, just. 743 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 5: Allowing your children to see that there are different ways 744 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 5: that you can do business and make them come and 745 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 5: support your family. So I really hope that it gives them, 746 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 5: well I know it will, but just gives them that 747 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 5: passion and real trust and faith in themselves and in 748 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 5: the universe that they can you know, go out and 749 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: just do whatever they want to do for a living, 750 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 5: fun goals, all those sort of things. 751 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: I love that And what like how incredible for you 752 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: guys to model that to them. Of you know, we 753 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: are going to start a business and we are going 754 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: to do something we're so passionate about, but we're also 755 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: going to have the seven children around because you know, 756 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: this is also what we want. And I applaud you guys, 757 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: and I think it's the most incredible thing. And it's 758 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: also really beautiful because when we can get to the 759 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: point where we're like, oh, motherhood actually gets look so 760 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: different for everyone and it gets to be this most 761 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: amazing journey. And when you like really accept that, I 762 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: think that has been like such an incredible feeling for 763 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: me personally of like really being like, wow, yes, you know, 764 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: my motherhood journey looks different, but like just really accepting 765 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: that that gets to be so beautiful. And then even 766 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: hearing your guys' stories of you know, we do a 767 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: similar thing where we're both working. We both have kids, 768 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: but I don't have Ivy at work at all. But 769 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: it's different and it's perfect. And when you know, I 770 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: love your example of you like you're at the expo 771 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: and the kids are with you, and like that is 772 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: also so perfect too, and I just, yeah, I think 773 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: it's bloody incredible. You guys are just doing amazing. 774 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We look up to you a lot. 775 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: So incredible, and I will leave the link in the 776 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: show notes say everyone, can you know, go and check 777 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: out your incredible company. But do you have any last 778 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: words for any new mamas going through the you know, 779 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: the trenches of it. 780 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 4: It's pretty cliche, but I think like really seeing present, 781 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: like every moment, every feed, looking down, stopping and breathing 782 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 4: and being present in that moment because it goes too quick. 783 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 3: You never ever ever get it back. And I think 784 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 3: this is my last baby, and being so final. 785 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 4: It's such a funny feeling, like knowing this is it, 786 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: Like I'm just like hanging on tight, like you know, 787 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: you're going to grow each day, you're getting bigger, and 788 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 4: you're just soaking it all up and really trying to 789 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 4: enjoy it even though it can be really, really really hard. 790 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. 791 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 5: I couldn't have said that better because I was going 792 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 5: to say the exact same thing, but especially now, you know, 793 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 5: like I've got an eighteen year old who is like 794 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 5: just doing his own thing, and you just it really 795 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 5: honestly goes so quick, and just taking those moments, you know, 796 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 5: like breastfeeding in bed and doing some nice breathing and 797 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 5: you know, I think just finding your way to do motherhood, 798 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 5: you know, in your own way, and just always connecting 799 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 5: the baby. And yeah, such a beautiful time. It just 800 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 5: so true. 801 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: And Carla, baby girl is so cute. I can't with her. 802 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I missed the Actually I don't. I 803 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: take it back. 804 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: I take it back. 805 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: Guys, thank you so much, especially Carla. Shout out for 806 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: you for joining this podcast with a two week old baby. 807 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: It has been such a pleasure. Like I said, I 808 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: really believe in your brand and your message and everything, 809 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: so it has been such pleasure having you on talking postpartum. 810 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: You appreciate your time so much. 811 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 812 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 813 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquered podcast. If you enjoyed it and 814 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: want more, come connect with us on Instagram at Risinconquer 815 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: dot podcast and join our Facebook discussion group, a Rise 816 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: and Conquer podcast community. 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