1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Powered by the radio wapp from ninety six AIRFM, So 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: whereever you're listening today, this is Clearsy and Lisa's podcast. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Coming up. On the podcast The One and Only Patty You. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: Sliced Alons meeting with the Pope at the Vatican. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: You're laying the dockets about book number two, Fearless, and 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: we talk. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 4: About the dumbest questions you've been asked at a job interview. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: There's sure report on ninety six AIRVM. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Queen guitarist Brian May thinks we may be in our 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: final years of music being created exclusively by humans. I 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 3: think we're in our final years of a lot of things. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: So he's till Guitar Player Magazine. I think by this 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: time next year, the landscape will be completely different. We 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 3: won't know what's been created by AI and what's been 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: created by humans. He said, everything is going to get 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: very blurred and very confusing, and that doesn't fill me 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: with joy. 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: It makes me feel apprehensive. 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: May added, while he thinks artificial intelligence has some scientific 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: and technological benefits, quote unquote, potential for evil, said it. 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Better programming and then pressing a button and then scared. 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: The Gillians out of me yep, absolutely, Having played Gandalf 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: in six Lord of the Rings movies, it's hard to 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: imagine anyone in the role other than legendary actor Ian McKellen. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: But apparently he wasn't the first choice. 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: Charlotte. 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: That's what he said backstage at the auditions while discussing 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: his upcoming film. The critic McCallan says he wasn't even 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: the second choice. Anthony Hopkins turned it down first, and 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: then so did Sean Connery. Oh really, you know, to 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: choose between those three. 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty touch and pretty high pedigree choice. 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I remember the other day we talked about actor Gary 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Boosey rear ending someone in traffic in la and then 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: taking off with the speed of a startled gazelle. The 36 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: woman had to race after him, catching it all on 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: her dash camp. Well, the police run to him now 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: and they're going to make him retake his driving test. 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Evidently sheriff's deputies in Malibu are very familiar with Gary's 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: alleged poor driving habits. 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: Is he is all types of crazy. 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: Gary, the seventy nine year old actor, has been involved 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: in multiple car accidents in the past few years, and 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: after last week's alleged hit and run. Police are about 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: fed up and they can probably charge him for leaving 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: the scene of an accident as well. 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 2: If those crazy eyes looking at you. 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Sylvester Stallone and his family have been given the rare 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: opportunity to meet the Pope, and the Pope told Sly 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: he's a big fan. 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: We grew up with yourself. 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: Ready rebuck if virus translated, the Pope said, we grew 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: up with your films, which is an interesting comment considering 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: he's nearly ten years older than Sly. 55 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: Then they shadow boxed. 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: For a second, kid you not, which must have given 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: aout a consecurity a quick kit. 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, shadow boxing in the Vatican, shaping up. 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: That's very very odd. 60 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: Mary Poppins is on at Crown Theater from now until 61 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: October twenty two. Tickets are through Ticketmaster and one of 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: the greats of theater, Patty Newton, is playing bird Woman 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: and she joins us. Now, Hello, Patty. 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: Moy, Patty, Hello, how are you? 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 7: Lisa and Clazie? 66 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: Very well now, Patty, It's it's been a while since you've. 67 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: Done a stage show, isn't it. How is it to 68 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: be back? 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: Well? 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 7: If look, it's fabulous, It's what do they say? It's 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 7: like getting back on the horse. 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: Good or whatever. 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: That's checking the horse back on the bike. 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 7: But it's funny really because I didn't intend this to happen. 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 7: It was just I don't know. I was feeling a 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 7: bit down with Bert and with everything that happened, and 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 7: wasn't too sure how I was coping and how I 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 7: was going to cope. And because of that, I thought 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 7: I probably need to do something different. And when I 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 7: got the call, I thought, well, this could be sent 81 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 7: from heaven really because it's a lovely role and it's 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 7: very I mean, it's a beautiful character and a lovely song. 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 7: It's only a cameo role, so it's not like I 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 7: have major stuff to learn. And I felt that it 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 7: would be very happy with me doing it. 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's how it all began, Yes, he said, I 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: think absolutely. 88 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: I know. 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 7: I have asked him, would you, you know, think of 90 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 7: a few other things to send me, like, you know, 91 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 7: a large check or TATS lotto. 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: Or something numbers? 93 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: I might send you one hundred thousand Instagram following Patty, 94 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: who knows? 95 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: I might rather Loto? 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: I think, right, Patty. I always wondered if there's someone 97 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: professional like yourself. How do you go with nerves? Of course, 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: if you're not nervous before walking on stage, you don't care, 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: But how do you go with nerves before you step 100 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: out there? 101 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 7: Look, I'm one of the worst. I would think I've 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 7: got all these ritual rules. And I watch other people 103 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 7: with the things they do, and you know, it's funny. 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 7: When Bert was in hospital, he had this little cross 105 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 7: and somebody a friend of mine, had sent to him 106 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 7: from Jerusalem, and he used to like to hold his hand. 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 7: It's a little wooden one and he kissed it and 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 7: put it back on the table. And I actually have 109 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 7: it with me at theater and I kiss it and 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 7: put it down before every time I go on stage, 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 7: and I have a photograph of Bert that I put 112 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 7: it beside, and I talk to him and say come on. 113 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 7: And I've been very lucky because in all the theaters 114 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 7: we've worked at, there's been a little part of him there. 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: In the last theater in Adelaide, they have a lot 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 7: of photographs of all the different shows that have been 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 7: there at the theater, and right outside my dressing room 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 7: was a photograph of Birt when he was in Wizard 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 7: of Old and I renighted, I'd say, come on, here 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 7: we go, come on, hop on the shoulder, here we go. 121 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 7: And I think everybody's got their own little things, and 122 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 7: they helped me because I feel as though as long 123 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 7: as I know what I'm doing, but I, like everyone 124 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 7: else's had a few funny little things where I've changed 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 7: the lines around. 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: And I was going to. 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: Ask, is that your only ritual per se because you 128 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: Thespians are renowned for having all these weird things you've 129 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: got to do before you go on stage every night 130 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: that has to be done the same way or something 131 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, to make sure. 132 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: All goes well. 133 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: And so chuckers do each other. 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: You can't mention macbeth. 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 7: I have a have an asthmas bray that I got. 136 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 7: I didn't have asthma until I got COVID, but now 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 7: I do. 138 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: It. 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 7: Then I say, come on, Bert, here we go. And 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 7: I kissed the cross and put it down, and then 141 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 7: I walk on stage, and whoever is standing by side 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 7: of stage as I go on, we do a fist 143 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 7: fish and then I bless myself and I walk on. 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Very good, most comforting thing to get. 145 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 7: So when you're sitting in the audience, you'll know that, oh, well, 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 7: she's just blessed herself and she's done it fiftits and 147 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 7: she's there. 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 149 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Mary Poppins is of such amazing, uplifting songs that adults 150 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: and kids are like love. Do you ever manage to 151 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: stand side of stage at other times that you're not 152 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: on and see the audience's reaction to what's happening, Well, we. 153 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 7: Do because there are lots of monitors at the back 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 7: of the stage where you can see the musical director 155 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 7: and behind him you can also see a lot of 156 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 7: the audience members, and you can see when they're laughing, 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 7: when they're yawning, when they're blowing the nose, when they're 158 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 7: sort of not terribly interested, or when they're going hysterical. 159 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: So I love all that. I love their reactions. But look, 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 7: it's a wonderful show because there's a big message to it. 161 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 7: And if children have never been to theater before, this 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: is the perfect show to go to, isn't it. Because 163 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 7: Mary Poppins tries to teach them that don't just see 164 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 7: what you're looking at, you have to look deeper. And 165 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 7: I'm a perfect example because I wear rags and I 166 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 7: have dirt on my face, and you know, I'm not 167 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 7: terribly pleasant for little children to look at. But by 168 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 7: the end of the show, they love me and they 169 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 7: realize that even though I haven't got much Marina pryor 170 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 7: Nancy Hayes did in Sydney, Marina in Melbourne, and we've 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 7: all talked about this and we all feel the same 172 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 7: that the bird Woman has probably fallen on hard times, 173 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 7: but she is one of those people that wants to 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 7: help still, so in her own little special way, she's 175 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 7: feeding the birds to keep them healthy and alive. And 176 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 7: that's what she's trying to teach the children that you 177 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 7: can do anything in life if you really want to, 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 7: anything can happen. And as the song says, anything can 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: happen if you're at it, and that's one of the 180 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 7: whole themes to it. If you, if you think hard enough, 181 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 7: good things can always happen around you. 182 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: Kids can sense they're good. Hey, Patty's super califragilistic XP. 183 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: Can you spell it for us? 184 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: I fake it. 185 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 7: I shouldn't tell you this, but in the end we 186 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 7: do a big number, and you know we all have 187 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: to do movements to every letter and to KK the choreographer, 188 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 7: I can't do two things at once. I am either 189 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 7: going to do the steps or do the words, so 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 7: it's better for me to do the steps, So I 191 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 7: go you know sup E R E L, and I go. 192 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 6: All the movements right, that's only short I can do that. 193 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 7: I can't do long. But that's why the children are 194 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 7: so fabulous, because you know, I suppose it's uncluttered mind, 195 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: but they get they get every word and they get 196 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 7: it movements as well. They can do the two things 197 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 7: at once. 198 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm like an old dear like well, they've. 199 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: Had parents in front of them recently mouthing everything as well. 200 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: It's exactly yes, and it's exactly what you said, an 201 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: uncluttered mind. 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, little fresh brains. 203 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 7: They've got Mary Mary and Jack step and Jack to 204 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 7: main leads. And how could I not do a show 205 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 7: with the leading man's name being Bert. 206 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: It's meant to be, meant to be, absolutely meant to be. 207 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 7: And they are so fabulous. 208 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: It is the perfect role bird woman. I think it's fantastic. 209 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: You're testically when you see just. 210 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 7: Tap dance on the ceiling, that's what you'll want to 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 7: be doing that I were saying, I'm going to practice 212 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 7: that and see if I can stand on the feeling 213 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 7: a dance just like him. 214 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: It is a pretty amazing I do remember that from 215 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: the last time that Mary popped. 216 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 7: Incredible but very moving at the end when Mary flies 217 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 7: over the top of the audience. I watch it from 218 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 7: side of stage every night, and I give a little 219 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 7: wave to Mary as she as she heads off in 220 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 7: front of the audience, and I get very emotional and 221 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 7: I get a lump in my throat because it's the 222 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 7: row of the audience when she flies across. Is just unbelievable. 223 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: Wednesdays, Yes, what happened? 224 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: Well, No, paople are going to love it. They're going 225 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: to love it. 226 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 7: You'll know, and you know, even if you've seen it before, 227 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 7: you'll love it again and you'll want to come again. 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 7: So I'm expecting you to come back twice. There'll be 229 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 7: big trouble. 230 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: If Patty Newton tells me on my way, don't you 231 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: over that? 232 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: Tell? 233 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Patty Newton can't wait to see is the Bird 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: Woman in Mary Poppins, which is on a Crown Theater 235 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: until October twenty two. Tickets are through ticket Master. It 236 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: has been an honor and a joy to have a 237 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: chat with you this morning. 238 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and for me too. 239 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: Thank you very much for being so kind. 240 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks, Thanks Petty. More Crazy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon. 241 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: The random or downright dumb questions you've been asked in 242 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: a job interview is what we want to talk about. 243 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: I've got a story here about a boss who uses 244 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: what he calls the Sultan pep test during job interviews 245 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: to judge a person's character. Sure, we've all been asking 246 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: stupidly random questions. Some people spend hours revising their sav 247 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: or practicing in front of the mirror different questions that 248 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: they think might come at them in the run up 249 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: to a big interview. You might not be expecting this one, though. 250 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: This it's the saltan peper test. This guy, this boss, 251 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: would base his entire decision on whether or not the 252 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: person he was interviewing tried their food before reaching for the. 253 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: Salt and pepper. 254 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that. 255 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: Would be his question to them. Do you do you 256 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: add salt and pepper before trying your food? If you 257 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: didn't try your food first, you didn't get a past 258 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: you were out. There was a big line straight through 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: your name. If you didn't try your food first before 260 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: adding adding, before adding salt and pepper. Now, let me 261 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: say this. I'm with him on the I'm with him 262 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: of the salt pepper thing. When people reach for the 263 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: salt and pepper before they've tried what I've cooked you, 264 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: it is rude. I have seasoned it. Don't just add 265 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: salt and pepper, will it before you've even tried it? 266 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: Dinner court of law. 267 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 4: But that is something. 268 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: But I wouldn't base a you know, a person being 269 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: right for the job on that or not. I'll just 270 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: base your whole character on it, but not your you know. 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Not your job. It's not going to get the best 272 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: employee sutability. M that's an interesting one. Yeah, some get 273 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: thrown around and the questions become even more interesting now 274 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: because the employeers now go through your social media and 275 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: if you haven't got it locked locked mad, if you don't, 276 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: you haven't got a lockdown therefore tight enough, then. 277 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: That can find That's where you really find out a 278 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: lot about a person. 279 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people get dismissed forget salt and pepper. 280 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: I would, yeah, you'd be there's no way you'd even 281 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: get it. 282 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't mean absolutely be checking you out and judging you. 283 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say. It was actually like a straight 284 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: up question. For I do remember trying to get my 285 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: first job in radio and Merriton at six m D 286 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty three and the guy pretty much because 287 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: my old man was working for Woolies. Yeah right, the 288 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: guy pretty much who owned the newspaper around the radio 289 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: station pretty much asked me if he thought there was 290 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: a chance of getting a woolle store up there in 291 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: the week belt, because I think he was happy to 292 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: get the advertising for his multimedia smart it's it's not 293 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: business man, and I'm seventeen in the gome. No, I 294 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: don't think so, I'll ask dad. Yeah, so weird. 295 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: Nowhere does it become more ridiculous in an interview that 296 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: when you have to say, I'll ask my dad. 297 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Just a kid, I'll ask dad. 298 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: So, what's the most random question you've been asked in 299 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: a job interview? 300 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: The potential employers they sometimes dig deep and sometimes just 301 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: give you really. 302 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: Random and the just the dumb. 303 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Cheryl and Clarkson, Hello, Hey, Lisa, hi Clercy. What did 304 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: you get asked Cheryl, Well, I wanted to be like 305 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: a bar attendant anywhay, got a job in the country 306 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: and drove down. 307 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 8: There and the boss man was sort of showing me around. 308 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: We went into the lounge and anyway in those days, 309 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: because we wore the high shoes, you know, yeah, anyways 310 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: to take the shoes off, and. 311 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: I could just reach the spirit's dispenser. 312 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: And if I couldn't have read. 313 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: That, I wouldn't have got the job. 314 00:15:52,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: It's about yeah, a bit right, but yeah, interesting, I guess, yeah, actical. 315 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: You could have rocked up with your own step steps. 316 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Cheryl. 317 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: Interesting, thank you. 318 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: You have to be this high to ride on this right, 319 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: and we'll work in this bar for the top shelf. 320 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: Carl in jounle up, Good morning. 321 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: What did you cop? 322 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 5: Carl? 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, for an interview as a glazier aluminum joining company 324 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 8: Zellan and another. 325 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Staff member the old company in question. 326 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, it turns out there's lost a few lost 327 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 8: a few staff members that way. 328 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: Yes, do you have a fish off the company? Fear? 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 330 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: So many, so many? Yeah. 331 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: And what did you say, Carl? 332 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 8: I said, no, yeah, you don't do that. 333 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: That's something The stupid thing is to say yes, isn't it. 334 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: I know someone who on the question on his health 335 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: insurance form, the question do you smoke? 336 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: He said, yes, quite honest, it's a bit silly. 337 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: That's silly, nice girl. Sharon and Armadale. 338 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: Hello, Sharon, good morning. 339 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: What did you get asked, Oh, okay, it was a 340 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: few years ago. Now. 341 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: I was working for a catering company and we lost 342 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: the contract to a different company, and so in the meantime, 343 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm having to re interview for my job. 344 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: And interview went really, really great. 345 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: And at the end of the interview I was told 346 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: that I had the most beautiful eyes that the lady 347 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I'd ever seen. Okay, I did have the job if 348 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: I wanted it, Yeah, but I just thought it was 349 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: creepy to stay with. 350 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: The old What a creepy start. 351 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, is going to be really creepy. 352 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 2: It feels like you're just taking the job, doesn't it. 353 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. It was like, really really spun out for 354 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: the job, very much Sunglass glass some of these. 355 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, creeping yourself out is not a good way 356 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: to kick things off. 357 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: Thanks Sharon, Sharon, No, no problem, that's not good. 358 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: More Clezy, more Lisa, More podcasts soon. 359 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: Elena Dockettch's new book is coming out today. It's called Fearless, 360 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 3: Finding the power to thrive, something I think Elena has 361 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: done in spades, and she's going to join us right now. 362 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: Good morning morning, Hi, thank you having me well, thank 363 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: you for joining us. Now, tell us about the new book. 364 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: Is this a sequel of sorts to your first book, Unbreakable? 365 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: My first book, Unbreakable was a feeling my life story. Yeah, 366 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 5: my autobiography, my memoir, and this is yeah, this is 367 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 5: a follow up. This is a little bit of also 368 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 5: what's happened in the last six years since Unbreakable came out, 369 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: a lot of the things that I've gone through and learned. 370 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: I'll go more in depth into why Unbreakable has changed 371 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 5: my life, and I say that the day that Unbreakable 372 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: came out was the best day of my life. And yeah, 373 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 5: I'll go into why that is. It's the importance of 374 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 5: sharing our story and being able to be able to 375 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: speak up and have a voice, And it's about normalizing 376 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: the conversation and reducing the stigma around abuse and mental 377 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 5: health and a lot of the other really important issues. 378 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 5: But ultimately, I do want it to be a book 379 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 5: of hope and something where people can really find something 380 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: inspirational in it as well. I go into a few 381 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 5: things I've never spoken about, like an eating disorder, I 382 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: talk about body shaming. So there's a little bit of everything. 383 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: But ultimately it is about coming out the other end, 384 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 5: and now for me also, it's about helping other people. 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: A lot of people going through those things. I mean, 386 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: you talk about people, especially on social media that can 387 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: be so cruel. But as we find you today in 388 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, Elena, are you just ignoring what anyone 389 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: says on socials these days? 390 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 5: Sometimes it's hard to think the motor house from you 391 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 5: are how much I try to ignore it and telect me. 392 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 5: I used the block I use the block button, trust me. 393 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: I think it is also, though about calling it out, 394 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: and I've done that the last couple of years during 395 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 5: the Australian summer. But this year, when I was really 396 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: trolled for my body size and my weight, I called 397 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: it out and people started to really listen. And that's 398 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: because I've been talking about it openly. That's because I've 399 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: gone out there and really without any hesitation, gone, look, 400 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 5: this is what I'm going through. These are the messages 401 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 5: I'm getting. This is not okay. We need to really 402 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 5: call this out. And people started to listen this year, 403 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: which I'm so happy about, from the media, to the fans, 404 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 5: to anybody watching tennis, a lot of men as well women, 405 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: young girls, so it's been amazing, and that is why 406 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 5: the power of actually sharing our stories is so important. 407 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: Silence is something that like I grew up with being 408 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 5: trained and raised and conditioned to be silent around abuse 409 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 5: and silence, yeah, silence covers a lot of the bad 410 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: things in the world. So speaking up and actually calling 411 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: it out is so important. And I feel really strongly 412 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: about social media abuse controlling because I don't think that 413 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 5: we should be going through it at all. I'm uncertainly 414 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: not out here hurting anyone. I'm in fact, I'm trying 415 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 5: to help my social media platform for something good. In fact, 416 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 5: so we shouldn't have to go through it, especially as 417 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: I think if you are in a public eye, we 418 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: face that quite a lot. So I think it's time 419 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: to turn the script and actually call it out. 420 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: And it is will because also, you know a lot 421 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: of people say I just ignore it. It is hard 422 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: to because it is just irrelevant white noise compared to 423 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 3: the important things that you're doing. But it's hard to 424 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: do that. With the first book, Unbreakable. You know, speaking 425 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: of being silent and not speaking up. How many people 426 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: have you had come to you and say, because you 427 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 3: stop being silent and you spoke up, now I feel 428 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: like I can too. 429 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: Oh, you have no idea how many. And that is 430 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: the reason why I actually wrote this second book. It 431 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: is not It is not for me. It is father. 432 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: The first one wasn't for me either. I say at 433 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 5: the end of Unbreakable, if it helps one person, for me, 434 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: it's mission accomplished. That was my life dream to help someone, 435 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: And this is this book as well. It's for others. 436 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 5: You have no idea how many people come up to 437 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: me on the street or a lot of the events 438 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 5: and speaking events that I do, how many people are 439 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: going through different things. Then they say, look, I really 440 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 5: feel like through you and you speaking up, I am 441 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 5: hurt and I feel like I actually have a voice, 442 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: or you've helped me find the courage to do something 443 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 5: that I never thought would be possible. So yeah, I 444 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: to be honest with you, I get talking about it, 445 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: and I actually don't even look at myself for someone 446 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: that maybe has that impact. I think I'm a bit 447 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: shy and quite humble when it comes to that, but 448 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: it is, you know, to see it change other people's lives. You, Yeah, 449 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 5: it's just it's just unbelievable. And I think I get 450 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: also a lot of inspiration from women like Grace Tame 451 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 5: and a lot of women that have come out and 452 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 5: talked about their really really tough lives and stories and 453 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: it has inspired change and we've seen it. So yeah, 454 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: it definitely changes lives. That's why I feel so strongly 455 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: about normalizing the conversation. 456 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Lady, you are well known in the public eye as 457 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: a youngster because you're such a prodigy as a young 458 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: tennis player. But where do you draw the line when 459 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: you talk about you know, and living in front of 460 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: the Australian public in particular in the world public, in 461 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: the tennis world. What do you draw the line with 462 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: personal what you reveal in these books, Because you have 463 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: mentioned the end of it, you know, you've mentioned the 464 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: end of a long term relationship and the like. Do 465 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: you sometimes go your question whether you're going to do 466 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: that or not and go that far? 467 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 5: No, I don't open books. I've been very raw, honest 468 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: about everything as well and Unbreakable as well as this book. 469 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: That is who I am. That's what I want to 470 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 5: stand for, and that's what I want my legacy to be. 471 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: I want to be very open and honest because these 472 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 5: are the things that people go through and I, for example, 473 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: didn't have when I was growing up anyone that I 474 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: could look up to or resonate with when it came 475 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: to a lot of the things that I was going through. 476 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 5: So the more people that we can have that are 477 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: sharing their stories, the more lives we can change. So 478 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: there is no for me, it's not even a question. 479 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: I am going to be very open and honest, authentic, 480 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: raw That's who I am, the good and the bad. 481 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 5: I show it. I talk about it, whether it's on 482 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 5: social media that I try to use for good or 483 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 5: my books or interviews. So, no, this is what I 484 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,239 Speaker 5: stand for, This is who I am. This is what 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: I want my legacy to be. And like I said, 486 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 5: I know that it helps other people and save for us. 487 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 3: If someone I had told seventeen and eighteen year old 488 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: Ilanta that you were going to be an amazing motivational speaker, 489 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: would you have believed it? I mean that's truth in itself. 490 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: How things can you can change your life, isn't it? 491 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 492 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: No, absolutely, not. Even if you told me that seven 493 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: or eight years ago, I wouldn't have No. I literally 494 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 5: wouldn't have believe it because I actually retired at twenty 495 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 5: nine and I studdled with that transition. I retired very 496 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 5: early for a tennis player, twenty nine year injuries and 497 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: mental health. So for me to actually be able to 498 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 5: completely reinlet myself and be able to do things I 499 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 5: never thought would be possible or that I would even 500 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 5: be good enough to be honest. That comes to my 501 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 5: commentary and TV career as well. It comes to writing books, 502 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 5: It comes to being a motivational speaker and being on 503 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 5: the full time on the speaking circuit. Yeah, absolutely not. 504 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: I would not have believed you, and I would have 505 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 5: told you that you're just making things up a little bit. 506 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Strang lady, Can I just take you back brief and 507 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm doing to test your memory for what was like 508 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: in your tennis career as a sixteen year old At 509 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: Wimbledon in nineteen ninety nine, I watched you play the 510 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: number one player in the world, the Swiss, Miss Martina Hingis. 511 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: What was the feeling like as a sixteen year old 512 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: where and what was it like seeing your opponents realizing 513 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: she's losing control of the game, and you beat it 514 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: that night and you were the talk of the tennis world. 515 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 8: Yeah. 516 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 5: Look, it's special memories for me because to this day 517 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: that match still stands as one of the biggest upsets 518 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: in tennis history and on the Grand Slam stage. And yeah, 519 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 5: I will try to keep a lot of those tennis 520 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 5: memories for me in a positive because there is unfortunately 521 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 5: negative things that are connected to it and the following 522 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: year as well. For example, when I make the semi 523 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: finals and I talk about this in Unbreakable and I 524 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: have nowhere to sleep because my father doesn't allow me 525 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: to come back to the hotel. So and you know 526 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 5: what I think. Ultimately, now though, it's about turning those 527 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 5: negatives into positives. I refuse to look at it as 528 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 5: a negative. I will keep those amazing tennis results with me. 529 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: I was four in the world, I was top ten 530 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: in the world in doubles as well. Yeah, I will 531 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: keep a lot of those things with me. And I'm 532 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: very proud of actually being able to play at such 533 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: a high level through adversity and going through so much. 534 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'll keep it as a as a positive. 535 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I will use the kind 536 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 5: of the negative experience to turn it into something positive 537 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 5: and to learn from it and for other people as well. 538 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 4: I think you're amazing, Elanna. 539 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: I love to see the last that you've made for yourself, 540 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: and the new book, Fearless Finding the Power to Thrive 541 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 3: is out today. 542 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure to have you joined us this morning. 543 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: Than thank you so much. Thank you for the time 544 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 5: and for talking to me. 545 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, goodbye, Clesy and Lisa.