1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: We know that new crime statistics released on Friday have 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: shown a drop in offending across the Northern Territory compared 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: to the same period last year. There were over twelve 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: hundred fewer offenses recorded between January and August, down seven 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: point four percent overall. Now that includes major reductions in assaults, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: break ins, and commercial burglaries. The government points to increase 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: police resources, stronger bail laws, and frontline operations as key contributors. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: But while those figures are certainly encouraging, questions remain about 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: what's driving the change and whether the trend's going to last. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: But also, as you would have heard me read out 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: in the opener, we're still having issues like the woman 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: who was assaulted by three youths in the city on 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Now joining us in the studio is the 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Chief Minister Leafanocchiaro. Good morning to your chief. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: Mindis's nine into your wonderful listeners. 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Good to have you in the studio. Now, I want 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: to start with these headline numbers. Crime obviously down across 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, especially in Alice Springs. In your view, 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: what's time this shift? And I mean, is it more 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: boots on the ground, policy changes something else. What is it? 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all of the action we've taken across a 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: number of fronts. I mean, people will be familiar. In 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: that very first sittings of Parliament in October last year, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: we passed a bunch of laws, including Declan's Law, through 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: the Parliament and we haven't stopped since. We've also backed 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: in our police, delivered them the best paid deal in 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: twenty years. So there's a lot of work been happening, 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: including on the corrections front, early intervention, child protection and 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: in it making courts more efficient. So we're really buoyed 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: by the data. Now we've always said people need to 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: feel safe, but data is important to tell you if 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: you're heading in the right direction and where peaks and 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: troughs are. And at a seven point four percent reduction 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: in the number of victims just to August this year 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: compared to last year, that's over twelve one hundred territories 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: who weren't victims of crime, which is significant. So plenty 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: more work to do, but it's going in the right 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: direction and we are not giving up, Katie. We will 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: just keep making sure reducing crime is our number one priority. 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you do. 41 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Though, have critics out there saying that the recording of 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the data or the collection of the data since police 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: changed their reporting system, is making the stats seem better 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: than they are. I mean, are you confident that that's 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: not the case. 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent not the case. And I 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: don't know where this cynicism comes from. Now we have 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: had two full years of the new system which was 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: brought in under labor. So what we are comparing is 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: apples with apples. This is January to August this year 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: compared to January to August last year. There has been 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: no way in which police records stats. 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: None of that has changed. 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Has been no change to how Attorney General Injustice produced 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: the stats, none of those things. So people can be 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: very very confident in these numbers. And above all else, 57 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, we want the true numbers too, because if 58 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: we have to deal with more more resourcing, we will. 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: But look, I. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Guess the other arguments as well, though, is that sometimes 61 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: people just simply aren't calling things inn I mean even myself. 62 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: I was at Woolworths on Friday afternoon. I saw three 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: kids in the stealing you know, the security tried to 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: one of them had an ankle monitoring bracelet on. I 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: don't know whether the security were actually able to get 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: in contact with the police or not, but I thought, well, 67 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: unless the police are contacted, how's anybody going to know 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: that that young person's actually breached his bail, presumably by 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: stealing stuff from a supermarket, you know, with an ankle 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: monitoring bracelet on. I don't know what the outcome was there, 71 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: but I guess what I saw for myself and what 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: my twelve year old child who was with me saw 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: as well, is you know, something happening in real time 74 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: that should not be happening. That's become the norm right 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: where people are like, Okay, well what am I going 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: to do? I can't stop them because what if one 77 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: of them has an eye four turns on me. So 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: this has become the norm, and I do think that 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: in some situations in people simply aren't calling the police. 80 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: So do you think that has an impact on those statistics. 81 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it has a big impact. And I'll 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: tell you why. Absolutely crime is still happening and it's unacceptable, 83 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: and we will continue to do what we've been doing 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: for the last twelve months. But I think people haven't 85 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: been Some people will never ring crime. 86 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: It depends what it is. 87 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: Some people have a general sort of what's the point 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: attitude about it, and I don't think that has changed 89 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: because we're in government. If people aren't calling that in, 90 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: I don't think we'll see any difference, if any at all, 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: between people not calling between now and then. So all 92 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: we can deal with is what we've got, and I 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: can tell you we encourage everyone to contact police even 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: when it's exasperating, you know. And I was just talking 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: to a business in Alice last week about this very thing. 96 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: I was begging them, please please ring these jobs in. 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: So look, we can be encouraged by the data and 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: the feedback I'm getting is that people are starting to 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: feel and see the difference, but there's still way too much, 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: and we just keep that pressure on. 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: It does look as though there needs to be some 102 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: work in our regional locations as well. I mean the 103 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: likes of you know, well, even in Palmerston there is 104 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: still some of that violent crime, as well as Catherine 105 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: and Tenant Creek. And I know that people would argue 106 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs as well that there are still issues 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: what works happening in some of those more regional location, 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: so I know that, you know a little earlier this 109 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: year we were talking about Catherine almost every single day. 110 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct. 111 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: So we have a number of strategies which police deploy, 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: and obviously we've done all of our preparedness for the 113 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: summer season, which is generally a peak period of demand, 114 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: but including you know, we've I think there's been about 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty sworn offices graduated in the last 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: twelve months, so we're up on police numbers, which is great. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: And then we've got all of the work we're doing 118 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: as circuit breaker children and families getting kids to school, 119 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of that wrap around. But even 120 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: just when it comes to how we're dealing with people 121 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: in custody and rehabilitation, you know, we've had some excellent 122 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: numbers of people completing programs and doing what they've got 123 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: to do in prison to make themselves better people. We've 124 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 3: actually seen a reduction in the number of time people 125 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: are sitting on remand because our courts are working better 126 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: and so it's heading in the right direction. But yes, 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: we are prepared for some of for those who who 128 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: know that it's by traditionally over that time and we 129 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: just have to continue, you know, proactive on alcohol bdos, 130 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: you name it, Katie. Our cops has row and the 131 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: book at him. 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Look, we've got a lot of messages coming through, you know, 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: some people sort of saying Katie in regards to the 134 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: crime figures. I lived near social housing up until a 135 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: few years ago. It was very quiet with a few 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: elderly ladies living in there. Early last year the previous 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: government decided to house people who were drinking. Violence became 138 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: a occurrence, with me compelled to call the police a 139 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: few times, but they didn't show up. Fast forward to 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: this year and there's been a significant change in anti 141 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: social behavior for the right reasons. And Ray says, you know, 142 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I think that the government's policies are working. I just 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: hope that they continue with their efforts. You know, you've 144 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: got others that are sort of saying, Katie, there are 145 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: still issues going on, and look and there are you know, 146 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: this is the thing. Unfortunately, even on Thursday night, we 147 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: were in a situation where three females or sorry, three 148 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: females allegedly assaulted a female along the esplanat so tried 149 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: to rob this young woman. The twenty six year old 150 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: was attacked by a group along the Esplanade. They tried 151 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: to steal a bag. Passing taxi driver then intervened, causing 152 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: those offenders to flee. Now police then track that trio 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: to a metro bus and stopped it on Daily Straight 154 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: with help from CCTV. But during that arrest, two of 155 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: those officers were allegedly assaulted as well. All three girls, 156 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: as I understand it, are in custody. Now. I get 157 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: that the government's not ever going to be able to 158 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: stop everything, and I don't have the ages of these 159 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: three offenders at this point in time, or whether they've 160 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: been charged yet, but I guess from what I can 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: see is that there does seem to be more police 162 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: around the place. I am hoping that we get to 163 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: a point where we're seeing more of that proactive policing. 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I get that you're never going to be able to 165 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: stop everything, but what people I suppose are starting to 166 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: ask now is, you know, with some of these teenagers 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: that are offending, that are doing the wrong thing, what's 168 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: your government going to do or what are you doing 169 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: to try and intervene early before they get to the 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: point where they're trying to assault someone Along the. 171 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Issue Yeah, that's right. 172 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: And often what we see with these young people who 173 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: are committing these crimes is that they have a very 174 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: long history of offending, which of course makes it all 175 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 3: the more difficult to break them out of that life 176 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: of crime that they've developed over some time. 177 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: But we're not giving up. 178 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: So we have that real focus on school and I 179 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: know we'll probably talk about that later circuit breaker as 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: well family responsibility agreements. You know, we've signed up over 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: eighty family responsibility agreements hooking in parents to making sure 182 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: they understand what responsibilities they have with their young person. 183 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: Skills training and vet pathways are really an important focus 184 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: of our government. A lot of these kids have not 185 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: been going to school, so we need to get them 186 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: work ready. And look, it's a big process, Katie, there's 187 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: no doubt about that. But our police did a great 188 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: job on the weekend. Those people were all apprehended very 189 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: very quickly. And can I just say a big piece 190 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: of this puzzle and I would just reflect on the 191 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: housing text earlier and on this anti social behavior theme 192 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: with our police public safety offices that we're bringing in 193 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: next year. This is going to be the change that 194 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: territories are really looking forward to because we will have 195 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: a whole range of police whose sole job is to 196 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: be out on the street, in public housing, on buses 197 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: where we know hotspots, are doing that proactive policing. 198 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: We're confident people are going to want to do the job, 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: because it seems like that may be the issue at 200 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: this point. 201 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: No, we're very confident. 202 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: We've had an EOI process going and those numbers are 203 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: going strong. We're doing all of the change management work 204 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: with our current public housing safety offices and our transit 205 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: safety offices as well, and so as more detail comes out, 206 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: we're in negotiation with the NTPA around the you know, 207 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: the terms and conditions of that employment. But once that 208 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: is made clear, we are very confident that we'll have 209 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: strong numbers, and we sort of see a one to 210 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: two year ramp up of those numbers, and once we 211 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: have a critical mass, it's going to be significant. 212 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: How many people have expressed interest in those that EI process. 213 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact number, but it's definitely dozens. 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: So we will have a full squad. The first squad 215 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: will be full provided all of those people who've expressed 216 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: interest meet the criteria. I see no reason why we 217 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't have a full first squad and then we continue 218 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: to build. So it's an exciting piece of reform that 219 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: will make a difference well. 220 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: And look, no doubt they'll be working as well with 221 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: our public bus network. We know that today obviously, we 222 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: have got a situation where our drivers are on strike 223 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: overpay and conditions. The conditions do relate to the violence 224 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: that they experience while they're at work. What is your 225 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: response to this strike and do you acknowledge that the 226 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: You know that they have got these serious concerns around 227 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: safety and their working conditions. 228 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have for a really long time. And 229 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: one of the very first things we did on coming 230 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: to government was put security screens in every bus. You know, 231 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: we had bus drivers who did not have that. Labor 232 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: didn't do it, the company wasn't doing it. We came 233 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: in and did it because we wanted to protect them. Now, 234 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: we've all seen footage recently where people who want to 235 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: cause harm find a way and they're climbing over the 236 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: barriers and all sorts of other horrific things. But we 237 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: really want this pay deal to, you know, to come 238 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: to its conclusion. It's not one we're involved in. This 239 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: is between CDC who is the owner of the bus. 240 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: So obviously that you're limited in what you can do. 241 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Is there a role that government can play to try 242 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: and help resolve this dispute. 243 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: I'm not too sure. I know that we've written to 244 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: them saying we really want to bring this. 245 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: To a close. 246 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: And I also know for people concerned today the hospitals 247 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: and special school and mainstream school. 248 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Services are still running. 249 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: But obviously everyone wants certainty, the bus drivers and the 250 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: community who use the buses. So the sooner this closes, 251 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: the better. 252 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, we will talk to the union about this after ten. 253 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Now I want to just set across to a report 254 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: by the ABC's Matt Garrick, which I know that some 255 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: listeners are going to be pretty disturbed by this morning. 256 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: The Northern Territories Director of Public Prosecutions, the DPP, has 257 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: decided not to appeal a non custodial sentence handed to 258 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: a young man who assaulted a nine week old baby 259 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs. We all know the story, we covered 260 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: it extensively. The decision means that the offender will not 261 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: need to serve further prison time unless he reofriends or 262 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: breaches the conditions of his community corrections order. Now, many 263 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: in the community do not feel that a custodial sentence 264 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: is adequate in a case as serious as assaulting an infant. 265 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Do you believe that the current sentencing laws allow for 266 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: appropriate penalties in situations like this? 267 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, this is something we're looking at. We've 268 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: changed bail, we've changed his justice sack, we've got use 269 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: Justice number two coming through, and we've got to deal 270 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: with sentencing and a couple of other things as well, Katie, 271 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: because you know, people are still seeing really strong instances 272 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: where they don't feel as meeting community expectation, and we 273 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: are really cognizant of that. Now there is the separation 274 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: of powers, but at the end of the day, our 275 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: laws have to be right and that work just continues. 276 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: I wish we could have changed it all overnight on 277 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: day one of government, but it is a process and 278 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: we are moving through all of it as fast as 279 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: we can. 280 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like someone's just messaged through Scott innanula and 281 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: said Katie in regards to the criminal that assaulted an infant, 282 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: I believe that he and his co offender were on 283 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: bail and had already been bailed a number of times. 284 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know whether that's correct or not, so I 285 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: want to be really cautious with that. But Scott's saying seriously, 286 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, well, his words are these judges need to 287 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: be sacked or have no choice but to put violent 288 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: criminals in jail. Like that's some of the sentiment from 289 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: the community. That's Scott inanula. That's just one message. 290 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: But I hear that centiment. 291 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that from the community too. And you know, 292 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: we certainly as territories ourselves. I mean, I know where 293 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: members of Parliament and the separation of powers is absolute, 294 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: but you know you feel it too as a member 295 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: of our community where some of them are inadequate, and 296 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: you ask yourself, how how could that decision have been made? 297 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: But just on the sacking judge's point, we can't. 298 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: And I know that drives me crazy. But that is 299 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: not one tool in my tool kit. 300 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: And look, I've got no idea exactly what the remarks 301 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: were when that sentence was handled. I don't know anything 302 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: like that either, so I don't have that context. But 303 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm sort of getting to as well 304 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: is I don't know that people feel that some of 305 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: these custodial orders or these supervisional orders. 306 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Are adequate either. 307 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Particularly you know, I feel like the people out in 308 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Howard Springs then that have somebody living in your street 309 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: under a supervision order of whatever kind, and you feel 310 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: as though, then you know, somebody's able to do whatever 311 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: they please. 312 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Do you see what I mean? Yeah, I do. 313 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: And there's that fine line because we don't always want 314 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: young people in prison. 315 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: We do want them out doing. 316 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: Mandatory community service, grubbing graffiti, learning skills, paying back their 317 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: victims by working in the business. But people have to 318 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: feel like people. I don't think territories have quite got 319 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: confidence in that system yet, and I think as we 320 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: build it up there will be more confidence that this 321 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: is people having to to do something they wouldn't like 322 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: to do, but that actually gives back to the community. 323 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: But there's always time and place for that too. There 324 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: are other times where people thought, no, no, this is 325 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: a jailable offense. So there is that fine balance. And 326 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't know this sentencing remarks either, Katie. But at 327 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, even with our 328 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: bail stuff, our Declan's law has seen a thirty eight 329 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: percent increase in bail refusals. That means thirty eight percent 330 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: more people did not get bail, So that is significant. 331 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: That does meet community expectations, and we are working through 332 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: the entire justice system, from court reform, corrections, reform, police, 333 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: better powers to make sure we get this balance right. 334 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk to you about these 335 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: school attendance figures that have come out this morning. My 336 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: understanding is that the school attendance rates remain stagnant at 337 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: seventy one point seven percent, while the enrollment numbers have 338 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: dropped by more than three hundred students. That is what 339 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: the new government data is revealed. Now, I mean, what 340 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: does that indicate to you? It sort of seems to 341 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: me like they're not actually getting better. 342 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really important that we explain this data, and 343 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: that's why we wanted out there so the community can understand. 344 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: Under Labour's time, for the last eight years, attendance has 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: dropped from eighty percent to seventy one percent. Now that 346 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: is still flatlining, but a very very big change has 347 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: happened since we've come to government. There were one thousand 348 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: young people on what was called the intensive support role, 349 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: that's where they weren't going to school and Labor did 350 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: not want to include them in the school data, so 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: they shoved them on a separate role and effectively forgot 352 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: about them and didn't try and get them to school. 353 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: We've called that out, we blew the whistle on that, 354 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: and we include that data in our stats. So you 355 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: can expect that does make things worse. But what we're 356 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: really proud of is three hundred and twenty eight of 357 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: those kids are off that list of not going to 358 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: school ever, and they are going to school. 359 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: But in its own way, that also. 360 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: Can make the data worse because if they're going to school, 361 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: they're certainly not going five days a week KKE. 362 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: So you reckon that list that you know that actually 363 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: the intensive support role that's now been scrapped, because that's 364 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: been scrapped and those kids are now on the actual 365 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: enrollment list. 366 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: That it's having an impact. 367 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's having an impact. Now it won't account for 368 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 3: all of it, but it is an important impact. And 369 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: I just want to say, those three twenty eight kids 370 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: who are now going to school might. 371 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: Be going one day a week. 372 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: You can imagine their literacy and numeracy is very very low, 373 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: if any at all, because they've not been going to school, 374 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: so that drags down other bits and pieces. But I 375 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: think as a community, we all understand kids have to 376 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: get to school and that's been our approach, and we 377 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: thank the schools who are coming up with all of 378 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: this innovation on getting kids to school. Then they're having 379 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: to support kids with really extraordinary behaviors because they've not 380 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: been used to going to school, so it's it's not 381 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: as simple jigsaw. But we've seen, you know, oney, one 382 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: hundred and eleven compliance notices, two hundred and fifteen parents 383 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: have been fined. And I met with the school attendance 384 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: team in Catherine, who is predominantly an Aboriginal workforce, which 385 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: is amazing. The feedback they have about how excellent it 386 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: is for them to be out on community getting kids 387 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: into school is great. So we're seeing some good you know, 388 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: matter Rank has got a great story to tell, and 389 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: there are really good remote schools with good stories to tell. 390 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: But I think this paints a picture of lots more 391 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: work to. 392 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Do, all right, Chief Minister, I've got a few messages 393 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: coming through one here. 394 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie. 395 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Can you ask the Chief Minister what are they doing 396 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: about the emergency department at Royal Darwin Hospital and the 397 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: lack of ambulances available. 398 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: So obviously, driving down alcohol fueled harm and violence and 399 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: crime has a beneficial impact on our ed and our ambos, 400 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: and certainly it's something we're really conscious of. We are 401 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: looking at how we recruit health professionals and how we 402 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 3: can better support our health system. But at the end 403 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 3: of the day, we are chronically underfunded for hospitals by 404 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: the federal government. Chronically. It's an absolute disgrace. We get 405 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: about thirty two percent of our hospital funding is funded 406 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: by the federal government, where the average is more. 407 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 2: Like thirty seven percent. 408 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 3: Now that's you know, hundreds of millions of dollars that 409 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: we're not getting, plus the forty million dollars we're spending 410 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: on age care that should be paid for by the 411 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: Feds plus plus plus, so we're in a very difficult position. 412 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Issue is not new though, right Like I mean, I 413 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: recall over the last sort of ten years that I've 414 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: been doing this job, it's always been something that's been argued. 415 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: I know, doctor Robert Parker, who used to be the 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: head of the AMA, he'd been pushing for that for 417 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: years and years. 418 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: So it's not a new thing. 419 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we, like, what are we It's 420 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: compounding to try and to try and sort this out 421 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: because you know, if you go if you go into 422 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: RDH and you're forced to wait, you know, for hours 423 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: and hours, which that's no disrespect to anybody that's working there, 424 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: but then also or you're ramped in an ambulance for 425 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: for ages. You know, it is like, these are issues 426 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: that really impact our liveability as a city. 427 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: It does, and that's why we're going hard on the 428 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: federal government. This is a historical issue and we've unpicked 429 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: all of the data because we're looking at the National 430 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: Health Agreement with the federal government and territory is not 431 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: going to be better off. And we are just absolutely 432 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 3: not going to take this lying down, Katie. It's just 433 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: a disgrace and the fact that we've had labor governments 434 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: accepted is appalling. So you're going to hear a lot 435 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: more from us about this. Our advocacy with the federal 436 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: government will ramp up, because I know it's you know, 437 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 3: it's cold comfort to people to think, well there's not 438 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: enough money. You know, people sort of say, too bad, 439 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: I need it. But at the end of the day, 440 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: when we are being underfunded hundreds of hundreds of millions 441 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: of dollars. This is a huge issue of equity across 442 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: the country. 443 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, someone's just messaged and said I had 444 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: to go to hospital yesterday. I waited seven hours for 445 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: an ambulance, then got a call and told no ambulance available, 446 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: got to hospital with the help of friends, bad back, 447 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: sat in a chair for seven hours, no beds available. 448 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: That's just an example. 449 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: But look, I'm gonna have to move along because I 450 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: know your press for time, as am I a couple 451 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: of things I want to just take you through though. Dan, 452 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: who we spoke to on multiple times about he was 453 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: the one who had a person living in support and 454 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: accommodation in Howard Springs on that community order. He's just 455 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: called in to say that it came to a head 456 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: on Thursday. The man was allegedly making threats to stab 457 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: people and bash kids, even when as far as to 458 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: threaten to get Oh goodness me, I won't even say 459 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: that part sexually assault people. Residents went to the police 460 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: station and made formal statements with the man, now remanded 461 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: in custody, but Dan says it took an hour for 462 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: police to arrive after seven calls, and although he doesn't 463 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: want to criticize police, he said anything could have happened 464 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: in that time. He said he is also now aware 465 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: of the man's current charges before the courts, which include 466 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: making threats to kill, aggravated assault and assaulted worker. I mean, 467 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: how is somebody like that then on a residential street. 468 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: Yep, good question, Kennie, and I'm glad the police were 469 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: able to apprehend the alleged defender and it sounds like 470 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 3: that community has had an absolutely horrific weekend. You know, 471 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, these continue to beachlenges 472 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: that Territorians are faced with, and we can't pretend it's 473 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: not happening. We can't shy away from it. All we 474 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: can do is to continue to empower our police, continue 475 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: to back them in so they can do their job 476 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: more efficiently, and continue to have strong laws that meet 477 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: community expectation. 478 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: And that's our commitment, Chief Finest. 479 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: I know you've got to go, but just really quickly, 480 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: what is on the agenda this week in Parliament? 481 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this week we've had a two week sitting. This 482 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: is the final week. Tomorrow we're doing the extension of 483 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: our homegrown territory grants, so they're thirty thousand for people 484 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: who've already owned a home and fifty for first home buyers, 485 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: and we've had one thousand people take advantage of that scheme, 486 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: which means people are staying in the territory, so it's fantastic. 487 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: We've also got some legislation to really make sure we're 488 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: putting the energy and the structure in place to have 489 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: strong energy networks. Now, Katie, this won't be a surprise 490 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: to your listeners, but we have double the number of 491 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: blackouts in the Northern Territory than the rest of the country, 492 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: which is unacceptable. Are they whether related or oh all sorts, 493 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: just failure of infrastructure, aging assets, in instability in the grid, 494 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: you name it, Katie, And this is a big legacy issue. 495 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: We've inherited that we are putting a lot of energy, 496 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 3: time and resources into and territories. Will hear us talking 497 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: more about it because there will be significant funding investments 498 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: that will have to come through in the next budget. 499 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: So that's an important piece of work because people need 500 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: to be able to come home, turn the lights on, 501 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: turn the aircon on, and not worry about whether there's 502 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: going to be blackouts, so that's a big piece. And 503 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: then of course we have the Integrity and Ethics Commission 504 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: no legislation which I'll be introducing this week as well. 505 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: So plenty happening and. 506 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, tune in. 507 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: You can tune in if you if you're interested, or 508 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: come and visitor Deep. 509 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Please speak me to so they don't have to to 510 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Chief. That's de lea fan. OK. 511 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: We better leave it there. 512 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Thank you as always for your time, Take care everyone. 513 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Thank you,