1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Soons in Alice Springs on Monday, with youth tearing around 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: the CBD in stolen cars. Police say that three stolen 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: cars were driven recklessly through the night, swerving at police, 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: with the occupants throwing rocks at them. Now after reviewing CCTV, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: officers told the ABC earlier in the week that it's 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: amazing that no one was killed or injured. The cars 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: have since been recovered, with efforts underway to find those offenders, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: and the reports are reminiscent of issues that we saw 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: earlier in the year with youth driving dangerously at police 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: and also on the streets of Catherine And it seems 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: as well as though there was some further vehicles stolen 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: last night, is what's being reported again across the territory. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: So we're just trying to get some further detail on that. 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I'll hopefully have that for you in just a moment, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: but joining us in the studio right now, the Northern 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Territory Police Association President Nathan Finn. Good morning to you, Finny. 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning to your listeners. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Now, mate, have you spoken to those offices in Alice 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Springs following that incident and how they're going I. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Haven't actually spoken to that the individual officers involved in that. 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: Obviously they are on night shift that night and believe 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: they were coming back last night on night shift as well. 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: But from all the information I've received, as they weren't 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: actually hurt. Obviously a couple of vehicles were damaged in 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: the process as well from the rocks being thrown. I'd 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: just like to point out that this behavior is we 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: can't tolerate this sort of behavior, especially towards our police, 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: and unfortunately this is going to end in a tragic situation, 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: but especially for a young person involved, and then the 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: community is going to be uproad about what we're doing 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: as police. I can tell you, Katie that our members 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: the level of dedication, perseverance and measured restraint and putting 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: themselves in the risk of trying to apprehend these vehicles 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: the other night in Alice Springs was truly remarkable. They 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: really had to hold themselves back. They could have been 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: seriously hurt, injured, or killed themselves in this situation. It's 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: very dangerous. 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: Like how dangerous did it get? Finny we're talking? I mean, 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: we are talking about rocks being thrown at police cars here. 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, police cars damage to police cars from these rocks 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: being thrown and also driving these stolen vehicles towards police cars. 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: We've asked this time and time again. They're using weapons 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: as a vehicle to assault the police and it's going 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: to end obviously in someone losing their life or seriously injured. 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, and it seems last night as well. So we've 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: just got some further word that police tried to intercept 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: a stolen use in Alice Springs overnight seen dangerously driving 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: with youth inside. That was in east Side Police telling 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the ABC it's one of three cars stolen overnight. Another 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: youth are spiked by police and then dumped with an 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: SUV still yet to be recovered. So two nights in 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: a row. 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: Two nights in a row, and I can guarantee you 54 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: to be the same cohort from the previous night. Again, 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: what are we doing about these use on the street. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: What are we doing to actually work with the families 57 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: and work with these use in these programs. I can 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: guarantee you that the same cohort will be involved. I 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: know that members of the Viper Property Crime Unit TRAL 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: through CCTV to identify two offenders from the previous night, 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: So a nineteen year old and a fifteen year old 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: were arrested yesterday. They were still in custody as of 63 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: last evening last night. I'm not quite sure, but I'm 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: assuming they would hopefully go before the court today. And 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Alice Springs in relation to these to the instant the 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: other night. 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, is enough being done from the Police Association's 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: perspective though, to keep kids off the streets before they're 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: getting to the point of committing these kinds of crimes. 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: We do not. We see these kids walking the street 71 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: night end, night out. Our members are frustrated. They can't 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: just keep being a taxi service and dropping these kids home. 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: More needs to be done in that preventive space with 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: territory families or another organization. There's plenty of government non 75 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: government organizations in Alice Springs as well that should be 76 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: looking after these kids dropping him home. If they haven't 77 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: got a place to stay or a safe place to stay, 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: there should be some accommodation provided for them. 79 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: Because from all accounts it does seem as though the 80 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: police have made a few changes in Central Australia, They've 81 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: got a bit happening in Alice Springs to try to 82 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: deal with these issues of crime that you know that 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: were at the beginning of the year. It was absolutely 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: shocking and it did seem to have calmed down to 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: some degree. But hearing these stories now, you just worry 86 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: about what it's going to mean over the summer period. 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all worried. Our members are worried in Alice 88 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Springs as well. But I'm reassured with the appointment of 89 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Commander James gray Spence yesterday was confirmed by the Commission 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: as a promotion into the role of Commander Alice Springs 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: and Southern Region. I believe he's got the perseverance, the 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: intelligence and also the evidence based policing models to prevent 93 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: another Alice Springs year. Obviously some are going bad. I 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: can only hope that his team rallies behind him. He is, 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: from all reports making some positive change there in Alice 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: Springs and he obviously we congratulate him on his promotion. 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: So a new commander in ALIS. 98 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: Definitely so, and that's a good thing for Alice Springs. 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: I've worked closely with him. I spoke to him last night. 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: He provided some correspondence in relation to what's been happening 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: down there and the stuff that he's trying to do 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: to prevent this from happening again. He's working in that 103 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: space outside of place with the other government organizations and 104 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: other non government organizations to actually prevent this before it happens. 105 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: Well, I really hope that everybody can work together to 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: try and really stop this before it kicks off. Like 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: I said, I know the last two nights have not 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: been good in Alice Springs, but the last thing anybody 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: wants to see is what we experienced earlier in the 110 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: year and what the people of Alice Springs experienced earlier 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: in the year. 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: If we've seen consequences from this behavior and consequences for 113 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: the action of these youths, we wouldn't see this behavior continually, 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: night after night after night. We need to take a 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: serious look and remove these kids from the situation they 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 2: are in and they believe that this is just a game, 117 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: and unfortunately it's a game that's going to end in 118 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: their losing their lives themselves or losing the lives of 119 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: a police or seriously engine a police officer. 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Now, last time we spoke, it was straight after the 121 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: cabinet reshuffle. You had concerns about the new Police minister 122 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: Brent Potter's lack of experience. Have you met with him 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: since ye. 124 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: Had a meeting with him last Wednesday formally, first sat down. 125 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: That went well. It was very constructive, very positive, had 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: some good ideas in relation to what he could do immediately. 127 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: We provided obviously ideas of what we could achieve immediately 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: and obviously what needs to be progressed out. He committed 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: to me that the resource allocation review that's underway, he'll 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: support those recommendations in full, depending on obviously what comes 131 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: out of it, which is a good sign. But he 132 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: also had some positive stuff. I know. On the weekend 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: he experienced policing at its finest. He went out with 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: the City Safe Cruise on Friday and Saturday night cruise 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: from a ten pm sorry to five am in the 136 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: morning and seeing the highlights and the low lights of 137 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: what the community provides and the excellent work that our 138 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: police members are doing with limited resources. 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: Do you reckon That's something that is really important that 140 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: the Police Minister and even other ministers do go out 141 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: and actually experience so they can see firsthand what Northern 142 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Territory police are dealing with on a day to day basis. 143 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: Definitely, he had discussion with him and I actually went 144 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: out with him Monday night as well in Palmiston to 145 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: the offer come through. I went out with him and 146 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: had a good discussion with himself and obviously the Superintendent 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: met Peter Malley at Palmerston on Monday night. We discussed 148 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: the issues. He spoke to a number of our police officers, 149 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: had to listen to the issues that they were facing, 150 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: and he discovered things that were struggling that could change, 151 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: possibly like us waiting at three hours at a hospital 152 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: to get someone seen that's in our custody or something 153 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: similar to that where we can actually get the resources 154 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: back on the road. So we identify these issues, but 155 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: he wouldn't identify these issues if he didn't actually go 156 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: out and do it. So we applaud him for going 157 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: out and actually speaking to the members and finding it 158 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: what actually we're facing. 159 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: And they seem like very much common sense things like 160 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: when you're talking about police resources then being tied up 161 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: at the hospital waiting there for three hours with somebody 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: that's in custody. You do wonder if there's different ways 163 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: that we could be doing things. Now. I'm not saying 164 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: that you know that we need to hire security to 165 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: do that kind of stuff. But if we've got security 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: patrolling the streets or going around the streets in the CBD, 167 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that we can use different models to try 168 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to assist the police. 169 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: He's seen firsthand the responsibility is that police have in 170 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: relation to domestic violence. He's seen domestic violence instant hand. 171 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: He's seen a couple of members arrested of the community. 172 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: He's seen the processing of people through the watchhouse. He's 173 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: seen a youth being charged in custody presenting himself to 174 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: the judge. So he had understanding of policing. He was 175 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: interested in what we do and how we go about it, 176 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: and obviously how he can assist us. Yeah, Rochi's positive. 177 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that for a long long time from 178 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: a member of this government, So I'm very optimistic that 179 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: he's actually listen to our members and listen to what 180 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: the NTPA have to say to support our members on 181 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: the front line. 182 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Well, we might try and getting back on the show 183 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: and find out a little bit more about how it 184 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: all went and you know where too from here. 185 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: But I do want to. 186 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Ask you as well, Finny. On Monday, the Chief Minister 187 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: joined us on the show and confirm that work is 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: underway a head of changes to alcohol legislation following on 189 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: from the tabling of the recent review at the last 190 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: parliamentary sittings. Are you going to be meeting with the 191 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: government on this and are you hoping that they're going 192 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: to be some changes that the Police Association want to 193 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: see included in those legislative amendments or changes. 194 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: Definitely, I hope we're at the table for consultation in 195 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: relation to what they're trying to introduce. I did speak 196 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: to the Ministry as well around the name obviously the 197 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: name and address of identifying people drinking in the public place, 198 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: and he's seen as a an urgent fix as well, 199 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: a necessary fix for us for allow us to do 200 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: our job and provide us with the information. So there 201 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: are some positive stuff and I really would like to 202 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: be sitting at that table to make those legislative changes 203 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: that we need and to empower our police to do 204 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: the job that they can do. 205 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: Aside from the identification process and being able to actually 206 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: check that idea, is there anything else that the Police 207 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Association does want to sort of push or try to 208 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: see included. 209 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 2: We want to see treatment of these people they're chronic alcoholics. 210 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: They are known to the government, they are known to 211 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: police officers. We deal with the same cohort day in 212 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: day out, Katie. It's very frustrating for our members when 213 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: they're not getting the treatment that they deserve. We're just 214 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: picking up the pieces at the end of the day, 215 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: and it's left as a police responsibility where it shouldn't 216 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: be police responsibility. There should be a health problem to 217 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: start with, and we're seeing this constantly with nothing done. 218 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: These people left in these open spaces, living in our 219 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: community parks, providing a mess to our community and providing 220 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: frustration to no level with our community people. We need 221 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: that to be fixed. That's not a police issue. 222 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Well, Northern Territory Police Association President Nathan finn I appreciate 223 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks very much for joining us. 224 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and also yeah to all those members. 225 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: It's been a tough few days out there in the 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: police world with accidents and everything else, and we're thinking 227 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: of those members that have to respond on especially our 228 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: fire is as well to these accidents and we look 229 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: forward to obviously supporting you guys the best possibly can 230 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: to do your job out there. 231 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely Nathan Finn, thanks so much for your time. 232 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, have a good day. 233 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: Thank you.