WEBVTT - Kyle & Leslie - THE BLOCK - Reality TV Contestants

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload, the podcast past.

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<v Speaker 2>Deep that line.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, guys to TV Reload. As you may know,

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<v Speaker 1>today's podcast, I have House one Western Australian contestants Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>and Leslie, the viewers fan favorites from The Block twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. This season of the Block has been making

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<v Speaker 1>headlines for the tension between Houses two, three and four,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where we've seen a lot of the drama

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<v Speaker 1>so far, but audiences certainly haven't forgotten about File Leslie,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after Kyle shut down a one sided narrative at

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<v Speaker 1>the first Body corporate meeting. The interesting thing about Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>and Leslie is that you know they were a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit quieter through production, but have quickly become fan favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>The Block always has divided fans over the show's format,

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<v Speaker 1>as some people are there for the renovations and others

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<v Speaker 1>are there for the drama. I think this year has

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<v Speaker 1>been super juicy because both are actually quite phenomenal to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>As we know, this season is set amongst the family

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<v Speaker 1>friendly Melbourne suburb of Hampton East. The new series features

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<v Speaker 1>five houses designed and built in the nineteen fifties, but

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<v Speaker 1>all getting the Block treatment in true Channel nine style.

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk to Kyle and Leslie about this year's

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<v Speaker 1>conflict and if they were worried that they would come

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<v Speaker 1>across as boring. We will find out how the Block

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<v Speaker 1>has changed their lives and what their kids think of

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<v Speaker 1>mum and dad when they don't get the best results.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about the word validation and if some

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<v Speaker 1>contestants need more positive reinforcement than others. Plus we will

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<v Speaker 1>get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of The

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<v Speaker 1>Block twenty twenty three, which has its next room revealed

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday night on Channel nine and you can catch

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<v Speaker 1>up on nine now if you've fallen just that little

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<v Speaker 1>bit behind. Anyway, guys, let's bring Kyle and Leslie into

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast all the way from Western Australia and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoy this very fascinating episode of TV reload. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie and Kyle, how are you very good? Very well?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very invested in this season of the Block. I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel like I'm going to need some help at

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<v Speaker 1>some point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm professional.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have professional help. I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>all subscribe a group booking for us all. How has

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<v Speaker 1>your life been, you know, for the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>How have you fitted this TV show into your life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite tricky actually, like we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>other day, can be quite mentally fatiguing in discussing it

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<v Speaker 3>with all the people because everybody's so invested, so all

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<v Speaker 3>the people like in your bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>Then like working in a school, is you know everyone

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<v Speaker 2>that you work with, and there's all the parents and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just so many people, and if everyone's so invested in,

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<v Speaker 2>you're having these conversations constantly as well as just enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>it because we're watching it the same with everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Else, So we don't know what's happening. We don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen that episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, do not talk to me between the

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<v Speaker 2>hours of five and seven watching the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I just need to comprehend what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you could do like a zoom chat

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<v Speaker 1>with just all the you know, your closest, your nearest,

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<v Speaker 1>and your dearest, and just say to everyone you get

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<v Speaker 1>one question each, we're here for fifteen minutes after each episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and then leave us.

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<v Speaker 3>Alone because the group check gets a bit crazy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think someone with the Italian family.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, to get to a point where I ever

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<v Speaker 1>think to yourself, maybe we won't watch tonight's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, no, I could not do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the kids able to watch the show with you?

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<v Speaker 1>And do they understand what's going on? And do they

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<v Speaker 1>take things too personally if things aren't going mum and

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<v Speaker 1>Dad's way.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>So far, they watch it with us and they love it,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you know, you'll come home from school and

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<v Speaker 5>I'll stick on Dan and Danny walk around or they're

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<v Speaker 5>fully embracing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But look is old enough now though that you can

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<v Speaker 2>sort of see like someone's talking about something, he's oh

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<v Speaker 2>really an he's sort of having a reaction to, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What people might be saying about us sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, for the most part, like doing the challenges

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<v Speaker 2>and then watching that as well, is that was exciting

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<v Speaker 2>because when we were doing the challenges, we thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're really going to love this stuff like the sounds

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<v Speaker 2>sculpting and things like that, and then staying there with

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<v Speaker 2>them and they still find it as amusing when all

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<v Speaker 2>the little banners pop up like dining disaster and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, look just for the novels is not

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<v Speaker 2>more officers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet it's a great show because it is something that

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<v Speaker 1>the family can watch. Sunday Lights particularly. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>half Australia seems to watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, And I think that was definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a driving factor in terms of our attitude on the

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<v Speaker 5>show and how we sort of you know, reacted to

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<v Speaker 5>whether it was the feedback wasn't you know what we wanted,

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<v Speaker 5>or when things were challenging that we didn't sort of,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let it get us down too much because

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<v Speaker 5>of how that might reflect for the boys watching it back,

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<v Speaker 5>and yeah, potentially them struggling watching ours struggles. So we

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<v Speaker 5>decided to sort of keep a positive attitude and always

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<v Speaker 5>put a little positive spin on everything that was happening,

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<v Speaker 5>even if it wasn't sort of going away.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think once you get to the end of this series,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe watching yourselves and seeing how you interact with others,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think reality TV can sort of change who

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<v Speaker 1>you are as a person or do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a moment in time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's hard to say, because I think.

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<v Speaker 2>All along the way, we were always who we are

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<v Speaker 2>as people in our normal life. Like we always had

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<v Speaker 2>this perspective that there was life outside of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even though you caught up in the bubble, we always

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<v Speaker 2>had this thing that maybe that was the kids, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but it was this perspective of like, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>can be so terrible in this situation, Like you would

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<v Speaker 2>feel like crap and you get terrible feedback or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But we always just.

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<v Speaker 2>Had this, well, we just keep pushing through because we're

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<v Speaker 2>here for the opportunity, and we've always sort of had

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<v Speaker 2>that perspective and even coming out of it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of course everyone reads the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>But for the most part we just laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone's like, oh my god, I can't believe they

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<v Speaker 2>got given the table whatever it's a didn't feed or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, because you just go, that's not it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Real life kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the situation is that the money could be end

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<v Speaker 2>but that particular thing that you did at.

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<v Speaker 3>The time sort of if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting with the two of you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite often we read on social media that you two

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<v Speaker 1>are the fan favorites, and it's always really funny when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about social hierarchy inside these shows when productions

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<v Speaker 1>happening versus public perception of everyone. Were you surprised to

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<v Speaker 1>be the couple that the fans seem to like the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, I think we are relatable, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think we give an opinion or a perspective that

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<v Speaker 5>people see and I don't know, they draw in too

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<v Speaker 5>that and go that's how I would react in that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's how I'm feeling now.

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<v Speaker 5>Watching it, so you know, I mean, they make that

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<v Speaker 5>sort of connection straight away.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was the fact that.

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<v Speaker 5>We've probably been a bit more involved in watching the

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<v Speaker 5>show in the past and really well, obviously we wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>We've tried out the most out of all the couple,

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<v Speaker 4>so we were.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of just that was our focus for a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of the time being there is you know, making the

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<v Speaker 5>most of the experience, and we sort of didn't go

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<v Speaker 5>off at any other tangent in terms of drama or

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<v Speaker 5>no creating a stir.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were definitely times that you felt, mean, for

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<v Speaker 2>lack of a better word, boring when you were there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's before the show's even gone to end people even

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<v Speaker 2>see it, because you could already see there were things

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<v Speaker 2>happening that were way more interesting, if you will, and

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of went, oh, are we here, Like we're

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<v Speaker 2>sort of just getting on with building and renovating and all.

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<v Speaker 3>That sort of stuff, and you sort of went, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, but I guess our role in that

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<v Speaker 2>sense was that we were there to narrate what was happening,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not our style to get involved, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and have conflict with people.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I guess the part that we played.

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<v Speaker 2>Was to narrate on what was happening, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I s don't want to know about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about it. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>miss anything, but I just don't want it to involve me.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think that sort of became the part

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<v Speaker 2>that we played, just narrating what was happening around the

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<v Speaker 2>place without actually ever having a side.

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<v Speaker 4>So to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as well, they kind of know the personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a lot of psychological assessment on knowing personality

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<v Speaker 1>types and casting you both in there where you both

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to see drama or bigger personalities and try

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<v Speaker 1>and beat it, but you guys still stay on your level.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it became pretty clear pretty early that

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<v Speaker 5>there was some big personalities and they were trumped anything

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<v Speaker 5>that we were sort of going to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>bring in that sort of domain. So yeah, I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like it was fairly obvious that where we stood in

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<v Speaker 5>the whole group and it was it was always going

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<v Speaker 5>to be drama packed because you know, I mean, everyone's

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<v Speaker 5>competing in each other's backyards and you can see when

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<v Speaker 5>things aren't going right at other people's houses and when

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<v Speaker 5>they are and yeah, it's impossible for it not to

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<v Speaker 5>bring tension and everything that we're seeing on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's weird that people would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>boring or anything like that. I don't see that. I mean, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>you really did stand up for yourself and give a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first I went to say town meeting, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not called a town meeting. In the first the body

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<v Speaker 1>call all the town fucker, we got all the town

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<v Speaker 1>folk together. Oh, first meeting. You I thought people could

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<v Speaker 1>have been loud and obnoxious or whatever, and you two

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<v Speaker 1>could have easily just been quiet. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>do still speak up and put your point across. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just probably not aggressive, but you know, probably not as dominating,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I think you know, I mean, that meeting

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<v Speaker 5>had gone on for quite a while up until it

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<v Speaker 5>when I eventually spoke up, and you know, it was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was getting over it, and you know, there was

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<v Speaker 5>just a part of me that didn't like about how

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<v Speaker 5>it was all structured and how it was very much

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<v Speaker 5>It's not to blindside anyone, but then it really was

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I got to a stage where I was

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't. Yeah, I didn't want to impose myself

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<v Speaker 5>in an aggressive way or anything like that. I just

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to have an opinion and potentially have the opinion

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<v Speaker 5>of others that weren't going to speak up. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>sort of I guess who I am. I'm not someone

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<v Speaker 5>that gets on the front foot straight away. I, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>will assess what's happening and give everyone their chance to

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<v Speaker 5>have an opinion and not shut it down without sort

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<v Speaker 5>of thinking about how I want to go about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was saying, we've been there for quite some

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<v Speaker 2>time and everyone had tried attempted to say something, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you weren't on board with what the narrative of

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<v Speaker 2>the meeting was, it was like, you know, you were

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<v Speaker 2>just getting spoken over. So I think he got to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where it was like enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess as well, do you think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been enough balance in who is being shown on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard because I think the storyline with there and

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<v Speaker 5>Ash and even the four of them, it's so relevant

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<v Speaker 5>to the whole experience for all of us, So I

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<v Speaker 5>think not showing it doesn't really do justice to everyone's experience.

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<v Speaker 5>So even though it's very one side in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>what we're seeing. I do believe that the potentially that

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<v Speaker 5>will swing later on and as you know, the rest of.

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<v Speaker 4>Us get closer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it'll give a bit of balance and I guess

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<v Speaker 5>maybe give a bit of insight and so what was

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<v Speaker 5>happening before and what happens at the end maybe, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's positives coming out of that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So as much as you're sort of seeing the same

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<v Speaker 2>people on TV all the time in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 2>behind that, there's the positive that the relationships that we

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<v Speaker 2>were all starting to make with each other. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like like Well said that that all has

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<v Speaker 2>to be told as part of the story because that

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<v Speaker 2>continued from that moment right to the end and then

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the show. So people are going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to see how that developed.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the show back. Though, who's shocked you the most?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you know both of you were there every day,

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<v Speaker 1>but in terms of being the most different to how

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<v Speaker 1>you had perceived it whilst production was on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, I'm not haven't been shocked about anything

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<v Speaker 5>that I've seen so far. Like, obviously you don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what's being said and nothing that's been said in interviews

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<v Speaker 5>or at anyone's house has related to you by producers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not trying to say, this is what someone said.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your response? Like that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know you're hearing things a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>time for the first time with everyone else, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're around it still, so you would hear

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<v Speaker 5>other things that haven't been shown that. So what you

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<v Speaker 5>do see hasn't surprised me or hasn't shocked me.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess the only thing that shop was that's how

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<v Speaker 4>early it started happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the one gave them cap or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that did shock me a little bit. Closers

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<v Speaker 5>like how didn't even have an opportunity to form an

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<v Speaker 5>opinion on anyone in the first week, And yeah, others

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<v Speaker 5>had obviously they hit.

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<v Speaker 1>The ground running. I want to know is the drama

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<v Speaker 1>still going? I mean, do you know if Steph and

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<v Speaker 1>Christy and Leah are they are they all friends now? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are we heading to a happier place with the three

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<v Speaker 1>of them? Or do you think that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>calm before the storm?

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<v Speaker 2>I think even from what we've seen and as it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to develop, it's very hard to come back from

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, and for us it happens later on

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. You know, we become you know, someone's

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<v Speaker 2>focused sort of thing, and so I think it's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to always come back from something like that. We're all

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<v Speaker 2>adults at the end of the day, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>be amicable, but I think you know when you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to leave with a genuine friendship and something that continues

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the show, and when you're not, and you just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of that's that's absolutely fine. There is ten different

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<v Speaker 2>human beings and you are also different that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be have a close relationship with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always going to have it. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that being in House one and where you were

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<v Speaker 1>situated was a blessing in disguise as you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts of it, like you're kind of down

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the block, so less likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the thick of it. Do you think that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of helped or would you have preferred to have been

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was pretty comfortable being House one, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you sort of did feel like you were sheltered a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit from everything else, so we could sort of

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<v Speaker 5>get on with what we were doing and avoid you know,

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<v Speaker 5>some of the prying eyes. Maybe so in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>what I wanted my experience and the show to be,

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<v Speaker 5>I was I was happy to be sheltered a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the snipes from Leah, Ash and Christy were

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<v Speaker 1>sort of coming in thick and fast this week. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that they should have all started to focus

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<v Speaker 1>more on their building of their houses or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just normal to make comment on your work

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues or you know, your fellow contestants.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's that water cooler stuff, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that happens in every workplace everywhere where you like, did

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<v Speaker 2>you see what Susan did or this one's and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that kind of thing with you in an

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<v Speaker 2>office job, whether you're on in a hospital, in it wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just something that does naturally happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the most interesting part is that it's

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<v Speaker 2>recorded and we get to watch it, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you went to an office block and then you

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<v Speaker 2>played it on the screen for everyone to watch what

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<v Speaker 2>people were saying about who was at the photocopyer, people would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, oh my god, I can't believe they said that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not like we didn't do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't talk about what was happening, just how we

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about it was never yeah, malicious and in that

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<v Speaker 2>tone you know, you comment on something, Oh, someone struggled

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<v Speaker 2>with this, they had to restumble. There was never a

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<v Speaker 2>malicious tone. It was never a where they're getting help

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<v Speaker 2>from or why is that happening? Or their favorites or

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<v Speaker 2>there was never anything like that. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>where that the difference came.

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie. There was that thing that they said that you

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<v Speaker 1>know tonight on the block, Leslie. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the ad. I actually think I read this online

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere it was like, Leslie storms off because she can't

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<v Speaker 1>take the bitching anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you storm off because you were a jack of

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<v Speaker 1>these girls having these problems?

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed at the story when I saw the story,

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<v Speaker 2>because that for those particular pictures didn't even match the

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<v Speaker 2>week that I actually lived. But I left for very

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<v Speaker 2>planned outing, which I came back home for. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean later on it does get a bit tiring.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we were like, just get me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of here, So you haven't stormed off yet, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. It's on its way. What about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reading about the commentating the commotation of this season, you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously would see or be tagged in a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you read about yourselves that's been completely untrue?

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<v Speaker 5>We've been lucky in terms of the response to us,

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't really think there's been anything that's been

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<v Speaker 5>too far fetched yet.

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<v Speaker 3>The most savage just our dining room planning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the word validation got thrown around a lot

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Do you think that people these days need

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<v Speaker 1>too much validation? Because I feel like the drama that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening this week about validation comes down to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people want to be told that they're doing a good

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<v Speaker 1>job all the time, where I feel like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>always need to be told we've done a good job

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<v Speaker 1>to keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think everything everyone needs validation. I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>it's hard if if the only opinion that you give

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<v Speaker 5>is negatives, then you know, I mean, that's difficult to

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<v Speaker 5>take all the time true, And you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we would always try to be very constructive in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of what we thought of someone's room, whether we liked

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<v Speaker 5>it or not. You know, even the things that we

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<v Speaker 5>didn't like, we weren't ashamed to go and speak to

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<v Speaker 5>that person and let them know. But that wasn't the

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<v Speaker 5>sole purpose of the conversation to say I didn't like this,

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<v Speaker 5>this and this, see you later enjoy the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>your week.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't sort of like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think especially the girls, like they got beat

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<v Speaker 5>downs from the judges, so then for them, from your peers,

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<v Speaker 5>the only thing they say to you is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>Ash said, the most will look like Shrek's cube. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just it's I guess it's a bit of pill to take.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not that they just want validation all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it doesn't always have to be solely negative.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone wants a reference of anyone. Pubes,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're shreks are.

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<v Speaker 4>No, probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lovely green merk and you're wearing today, are

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<v Speaker 1>they shreks? Pubes are great?

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<v Speaker 2>And like, we didn't agree on the wall, but we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just walk in there. And Cole didn't just go

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<v Speaker 2>hate it. He was like, it's not for me because

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<v Speaker 2>x y Z and I was like, yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fair point, but it's in your guest suite, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not where someone's going to be for you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>months at a time. It's just in they're out the

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<v Speaker 2>visiting and it's a bit of a feature sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you give that sort of feedback as in, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do, or you have these things. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's hard, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole premise of the whole week is to get

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<v Speaker 2>validation from three people so you can have money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true, I think as well. You know, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>was there when people were doing tours of the houses

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<v Speaker 1>and they saw that feature wall, and I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>anyone say anything nice about it either. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to make success on this show, you really need to

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<v Speaker 1>make some really bold choices outside of just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what people would do in their homes every day. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you do want to have those moments where you feel

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<v Speaker 1>quite polarized. Like, I think that the success of this

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<v Speaker 1>show is people making some bold choices that we can

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<v Speaker 1>at home go well that's fucking shit, Like it's it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it more inclusive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's a tricky position to be in

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<v Speaker 5>because it is you're being judged week by week. So essentially,

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<v Speaker 5>you could make a room every week that has nothing

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<v Speaker 5>to do with the room before and nothing to do

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<v Speaker 5>with the room that you're planning in the future. But

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<v Speaker 5>in the whole grand scheme of things, you're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>sell a house or a home, so it has to

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<v Speaker 5>feel like a home. So as much as yeah, the

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<v Speaker 5>focus is.

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<v Speaker 4>In just what you've delivered that week, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>You kind of don't a play safe, but you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to think of the end sort of project or home

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<v Speaker 5>that you're creating.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were just going to create a house that

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<v Speaker 1>was personally tailored to yourself, you might not do all

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<v Speaker 1>of the decisions that you've made. You're trying to win

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<v Speaker 1>the block, do you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I took my head off to Ash and Leah sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>even from their very first bathroom because it was something

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<v Speaker 2>that you wear.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I haven't seen that and it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So the living room no for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Great if I was in Palm Springs somewhere on a

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<v Speaker 2>holiday again for a short period of time, awesome if

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that's where you arrived at your airbnb, not the home

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to buy, but I could appreciate that they

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<v Speaker 2>were taking this whole different path that everyone else was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also a source of the driver at the

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<v Speaker 1>most moment comes down to Eliza Liberty being accused of

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<v Speaker 1>being Channel Line's favorites. And I guess that was a

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<v Speaker 1>real problem as the show was going on, because they

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<v Speaker 1>got spoken about quite a bit. Did you think they

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<v Speaker 1>were being helped by Channel nine at all?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't, and I didn't think they were a Channel

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<v Speaker 5>Line plant or whatever the.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the narrow secret savage. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what possibly one part of the show that

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<v Speaker 5>people don't understand is that it's the benefit of House

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<v Speaker 5>one is that a lot of the work that Channel

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<v Speaker 5>Lines builders do in conjunction with us starts at House

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<v Speaker 5>one and finishes at House five sort of thing, because

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<v Speaker 5>they have to have some sort of structure and schedule.

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<v Speaker 4>So the negative of being.

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<v Speaker 5>House five is that you often thinks start happening in

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<v Speaker 5>your house later than everyone else. So for me, what

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<v Speaker 5>happened this week with the girls and they're living and dining,

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<v Speaker 5>it needed to happen otherwise they weren't gonna have a

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<v Speaker 5>room to present.

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<v Speaker 4>So nine s builders needed.

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<v Speaker 5>To get in there and finish framing that exterior wall

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. So I didn't see it as

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<v Speaker 5>a favor or anything that you know, someone else wasn't getting.

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<v Speaker 5>The rest of us were still having the same amount

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<v Speaker 5>of work done on our houses, just it had happened earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>And even I don't know even the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Dan being a show for for the I just I

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<v Speaker 5>saw the humor in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why some people just went straight to

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, it's a favoritism thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>But from a viewers perspective, I don't necessarily think we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing them being favored that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you, I used to give them shit, so

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<v Speaker 2>can I say shit? I you know that these little

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>men would come in the nighttime and be like, oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>like because the girls were up, they were doing just

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<v Speaker 2>like we all were, but you know they really did.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd have more consistent over like long nights than everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>We might go to bed on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>at like eleven o'clock. There are two o'clock, three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>consistently in the week, and so you know, for them

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<v Speaker 2>as well, that feeling of people going like, oh, you're

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 2>just getting help. That's how you're getting finished. Not okay,

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.679
<v Speaker 2>so you go sleep now, and then I'm sleeping, and

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:21.919
<v Speaker 2>then we're up and we're tagged teaming and they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>their insulation and all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you went for a wonder at twelve o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>at night, two o'clock, they were up, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>think for them that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Where that they really take it to heart, because they

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<v Speaker 2>were slogging it out and you know, and again as

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<v Speaker 2>was I'm not saying other people weren't doing that, but

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<v Speaker 2>no one else is being accused of getting help from

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<v Speaker 2>Channel nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that one sort of like is taken. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that story is grotten legs and arms and walked off

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I think there's nothing you can do

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I did get told that you get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the drama at some point, and we're not there

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<v Speaker 1>of the show yet, but can you kind of tease

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<v Speaker 1>me on what does it take for you both to

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 1>get involved in drama? Because I've met you both a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times before doing this podcast. Your most placid

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<v Speaker 1>loveliness people.

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<v Speaker 2>But us it was because it was a question about

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<v Speaker 2>actual character. So you're taking your coming from what is

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<v Speaker 2>in the bubble that you can accept.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're in a bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to get a bit heated and bit offended

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<v Speaker 2>about every little thing to questioning us as actual people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think for us it was I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not, that's not what we're about sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and just this feeling at that point like just stay

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<v Speaker 2>in your lane, just worry about yourself, like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, you've got some people feel better about themselves by

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<v Speaker 1>like talking about someone else. You know, it happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me for a long period of my life, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like it came down to sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>lott of work that I did on myself where the

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<v Speaker 1>more insecure I was, the more I was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>commentating on other people. And then when I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>at those times that I would say something negative about others,

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<v Speaker 1>it was usually at my most insecure, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>learned in those moments to say nothing. You know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my best friends said to me, Ben Norris, say

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<v Speaker 1>less the best thing I've ever the best thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ever going to teach you, you know, But I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at the same time, it's human nature. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to sometimes worry about what other people are

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<v Speaker 1>doing and worrying if they're doing it better than you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely it is. I just think

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<v Speaker 4>it needs to needs to happen a different way, and

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 4>it needs to be if you know, if that's your.

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<v Speaker 5>Goal and that's your intention on coming on the show,

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<v Speaker 5>then then share that with everyone. Let us all be

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.919
<v Speaker 5>a part of the game sort of thing. Don't just

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 5>fire bullets and you know, and the rest of us

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.640
<v Speaker 5>can't fire back because we don't know that we're involved

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<v Speaker 5>in conflict sort of.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, you know what I mean? Yeah, just taking the

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<v Speaker 4>hits and then expect it to laugh about it later on.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't feel like that's a fair fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. And you know, we've also seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the work now from Neil and Marty, So we've

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<v Speaker 1>had Neil and Marty look at some of these rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted your perspective, like, which judge do you prefer?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you prefer your rooms being judged by Neil or Marty?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I prefer either one.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, Marty gives a great new perspectives that you know,

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.199
<v Speaker 5>potentially that haven't had before from a judge in terms of.

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<v Speaker 4>From a real estate point of view.

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 5>And obviously Marty doesn't bet around abortion in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>what his opinion is. And I don't know as much

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<v Speaker 5>as sometimes you know, we didn't score great with Marty

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<v Speaker 5>or his feedback wasn't necessarily positive.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. We didn't have an issue with no.

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I was never offended.

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean I always I was always going to write

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<v Speaker 2>on the cotails of his comment that any real estate

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.919
<v Speaker 2>agent would be lucky to sell our house. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, you can say anything right now, and he's

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>already said, that's put back.

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>What you going to put on that? You know, it's

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>what you put on the throw pillow. When did you

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<v Speaker 1>realize that you should have a full open living space

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and one wall needed to come down? When did you

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>get to that realization?

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean early on, but the options explored weren't plausible

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 2>at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you know, Dan came in and is like, well,

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 3>you need this roll out.

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, aha, are you taking the

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>piece because it's Tuesday Wednesday?

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 3>With it the date, it was like, that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But in reality, we had so many more questions than

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I had answers to, and we were both like, I

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 2>just how does that look if we don't present a room,

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>like how's that playing out here? And I was like,

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I just there wasn't any answers or a path that

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>we knew like this is where it was going to go.

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, can we just let's just get

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<v Speaker 2>to judging, Let's just keep going, finish up where we are,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and just let me just see it come together. Because

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm also a visual tactile person, so I'm like, well,

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>how do you know, maybe we'll sit there and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a double side of flyplace and we're having something else

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>on the other side, like and I wasn't. We weren't

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put out here in the sand, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was disappointing when you sort of went, oh, it's so stunning,

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and yes it is small. I'm not an idiot.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was small, But there was just no answer at

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<v Speaker 2>that moment of like, look, just don't present and let's

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 2>explore all these options and we you know then that

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 2>came later on obviously, So for me, I was just

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 2>like I just would have Yeah, we decided we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to judging. Take the hit on the chin if it

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>was going to go super badly, and then decide from there,

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what it is.

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 3>That we were going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is really hard. I guess if you

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>get the bottom score, I guess, or whatever, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to change the way that your next week goes. It's

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 1>not always a bad thing either, do you know what

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like I think sometimes if you do rank

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom, you go, Okay, well I'm going to

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 1>try and do things differently the next week, and then

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you level up. I feel like kind of doesn't always

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>have to be that bad, you know what I mean?

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You can try and look for the positive and that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, And even you know, even based on living

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 5>and dining week, it was still the fact that the

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 5>room was beautiful. You know, the styling was beautiful, so

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, you really sort of focused on those positive

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 5>and go, well, it's just the fact that it's too

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 5>small and we can fix that. You know now that

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 5>we can plan to fix it. So you know, the

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 5>bones and the structure were there, and that's really what

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 5>we focused on.

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<v Speaker 4>I think after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Judging, Yeah, do you have a favorite room at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the room that you feel the most proud of.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, in terms of what's being done, I really love

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 5>our whole space, But in.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Terms of what's to come, my favorite is the master.

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<v Speaker 1>On Suite, and you're going to recreate that in your

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>own home. I mean the show is very good when

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's being aspirational. You kind of want to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>show and you know, have that level of integrity of

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>building to be just that level above what you probably

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 1>could really afford. I think that's kind of like you know,

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>home pawn or whatever.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely attraction of being on the show, the fact

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 5>that you can create, you know, a multimillion dollar home

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.120
<v Speaker 5>that you know that's very much not in the opportunity

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 5>for you know, the average Joe.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's an amazing opportunity to have.

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>But then having said that too, we also do things

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 3>where you hope someone at home who is on a

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 3>budget can go, oh, they're just they put sand in

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>their paint and they got this textured finish that looks stunny,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 3>like we could do that.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Where are you going to take this? I mean, after

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you've been on the show, you might win millions of dollars,

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we don't know, But where where do you want to

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>take this experience. I mean, are you wanting to move

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>more into this sort of work full time?

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 3>It's really hard. Like I probably need to hone in

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 3>on it in the next seven weeks and the show

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>in I don't know yet.

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I definitely, I guess I want to be in the

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 2>space in some way now that I've sort of done that,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Like I love being in a Kidney classroom.

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 3>But I'm like more like, you know, obviously, because we'll.

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Put the show so I'm like, yeah, I just don't

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>know where it's going to go, but I hope it's somewhere.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Who do you think at this stage, like even

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>watching the show back, who do you think is going

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to get the most amount of money out of all

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the houses? Out of one to five? Do you have

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 1>a house that do you think is going to going

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to win? Or too busy vision boarding your own house

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>at that spot.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm very confident in terms of what we finished with

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 5>and how it makes people feel and that emotional connection

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<v Speaker 5>that Scottie really drives home. I feel like you do

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<v Speaker 5>get that with our home. I think, you know, Stephan

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<v Speaker 5>John's plays ticks a lot of the right boxes, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just in terms of even just orientation, you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean. And they've got that massive living dining era

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<v Speaker 5>in the kitchen to come. Yeah, I think it's it

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<v Speaker 5>might be hard to trump them, but you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go with Stephan Giarn than yourself. Then

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<v Speaker 1>who is third, fourth, and fifth?

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<v Speaker 4>Would I would put the girl's third again because of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Norse aspects well, and then just pro purely from an

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<v Speaker 5>investment point of view, probably lear in Ashle than Christian Bratt.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there we go. There's our five, which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always hard to be put on the spot with

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<v Speaker 1>those ones, but it's what people want to know. They want,

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<v Speaker 1>they want the juicy. I guess I think I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit about this earlier. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>know if the drama is still going? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>that Steph and Christian and Lea are they still going

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<v Speaker 1>out and have their friends? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Do we know the answer that post post show?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, post show? What do we know? Are they okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Call them friends?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think personally, I think that the six

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<v Speaker 5>of us will remain very close and potentially not feel

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<v Speaker 5>the need to have to be close with the other four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there we go. That's that's what's happening for Christmas.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Some people are on the Christmas put some people aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>And I only have six chairs around my dining.

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<v Speaker 1>Table that's there, then it's fair you can't bring another

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<v Speaker 1>chair in.

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<v Speaker 3>Carl's got broad shoulders. It starts kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>In the media this week, we've heard a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>Dalsford was supposed to be the next block, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it's not going to happen. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have any ideas as to where you think the block

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<v Speaker 1>should be for the twentieth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I don't know. I think I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Suburbs worked.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked I liked how the show ran, and obviously

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<v Speaker 5>it was much easier for the crew not having to sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of be in the mud and the cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. So I'm not sure. I hope they come

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<v Speaker 4>up with a space.

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<v Speaker 5>That gives justice to the twentieth season. I would I

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<v Speaker 5>mean me personally, I would love to see like a

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<v Speaker 5>gap week series again, where you're all in the same building,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, trying to get out the same flight of

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<v Speaker 5>stairs and just you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it'd be good to see teams not just like couples,

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<v Speaker 2>but like teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams sounds like too many people. It's bad enough with

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<v Speaker 1>two people per house.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I mentioned that, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And before you guys going to ask you what is

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<v Speaker 1>something from behind the scenes, something we won't see, kind

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of like a behind the scenes secret to what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to film the block.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I think one of the most memorable things

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<v Speaker 2>is the crew and the people that no one else

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<v Speaker 2>gets to see. That was really especially in the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>when you haven't really gotten to know contestants. You're getting

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<v Speaker 2>miked up by the saying people you're all up at

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<v Speaker 2>that time of the morning, you're all going.

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<v Speaker 3>To bed late.

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<v Speaker 2>You form these relationships with people and you get to

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<v Speaker 2>know people and they're on the other side, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is what translates to what people can see, because

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 2>once you have those relationships, you feel comfortable to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk and to say things, and so there's something to yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of my favorite things about behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>And they come.

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<v Speaker 2>Back again and again like they have been there for

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years, and there's people who go

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<v Speaker 2>from being just runners and then you know they said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I started out and now I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 2>and so it is somewhay that people want to be working.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it does translate when you.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're to skip kinder kids. For being a television producer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be really good at that. Actually, people trust me,

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<v Speaker 3>they tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>People they tell you all of their pulling secrets. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a skill set. Yeah, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being so generous with your time and chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with me today.

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<v Speaker 4>Speak to you again.

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<v Speaker 2>H m hm