1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: the eighth of November. I'm Zara, I'm Billy. It's now 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: been a couple days since Donald Trump was elected the 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: forty seventh president of the United States, and yes, we 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: are somehow still talking about it. Yesterday on this podcast, 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: we provided some reflections and some early analysis on why 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: we think Donald Trump won and how the election played out. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Today we are answering your questions on Instagram. We put 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: up a story asking you to tell us what you 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: still need explain to you and those questions were so 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: insightful and so helpful to guide this conversation, and so 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: today we're here to answer them. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Zara. The first question that we got a lot, 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I think it was every second question that we got 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: is how does this result? How does Donald Trump becoming 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: president impact us in Australia. 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think that it's no surprise that this 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: would have been the most common question asked because between 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: the h You're not the Daily America, was, you know, 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: explaining why US politics actually matters to us here in Australia. 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: And I know that we touched on it a little 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: earlier in the week with another podcast, so I'll play 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: you a bit of that. But let's first start with 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: the economy. It was Donald Trump's biggest talking point throughout 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: the election, and it's probably going to be his top 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: priority as president. I'm going to play you a quick 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: grab of what Planet America host Chas had to say 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: when m asked this question earlier about what the impact 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: of a Donald Trump presidency would be on the Australian economy. 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Trump is obsessed with tariffs, and he can do them 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: by himself. He can lay tariffs down as much as 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: he likes according to American law. What that means is 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: Australia we export a lot to America, and we also 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: export to a lot of other countries that also trade 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: with America. So if Trump cuts off America from the 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: rest of the world as far as trading goes, that 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: creates a lot of potential opportunities for Australia with those 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: other countries, trading opportunities with say China, with Japan. There's 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: also the opportunities we have with America. Like Trump has 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: notoriously fought with a bunch of other countries in the past, 43 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: and I expect this term wouldn't be any different. But 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: if Australia can get on his good side and can 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: suck up to him just the right way, that could 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: potentially provide opportunities for Australia as well. 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so basically the TILDR on taris because I feel 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: like that's not something that we talk a lot about. 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: What he's saying is that under Trump, goods being imported 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: into the US could cost more for Americans because he 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: wants to encourage more things being made in America, right, 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: And so in Australia, how that could impact us is 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: that it could impact well, it could hurt Aussie businesses 54 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: that rely on US buyers. But what Chas is saying 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: is that it could potentially open up new opportunities with 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: other countries. 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And it's an interesting point. But that's just 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: you know, one part of what could change under a 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: Donald Trump presidency. We talk there of this idea of 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Trump cutting America off, and that's not a new idea. 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: It's like isolationism. You know, anyone that studied anything like 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: this at university would have heard these terms a lot. 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: But another way that that manifests is with things like 64 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: climate actions. So Donald Trump the last time around when 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: he was president, he withdrew the US from the Paris Agreement, 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: which is basically a big agreement that a lot of 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: countries have signed to take steps to curb the effects 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: of climate change. He withdrew the US, and we're expecting 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: more of that sort of action this time around, of 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: we're drawing from global agreements, especially as it pertains to 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: climate action. Because we know that he said that he'll 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: invest more in fossil fuels and those sorts of industries 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: in the US. 74 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: It could be something that it might not have an 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: immediate impact, but more of a long term impact. 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we might not know for decades exactly. Now, Billy, 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: we'll go on to the next question. So we've got 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: a lot to get through. A big question that came 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: up was around Project twenty twenty five. And we've spoken 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: about this before, so we'll throw a link to that 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: in today's show notes if you need to get up 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: to date. But will Donald Trump actually implement Project twenty 83 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: twenty five? 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, if you haven't heard of Project twenty twenty five, 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: it is a set of conservative policy recommendations for President 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: elect Donald Trump, and it was set out when they 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: were preparing for a potential Trump presidency and obviously now 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: we know that that will definitely happen. So it's basically 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: just an outline of proposals that was organized by a 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: place called the Heritage Foundation. So they are a right 91 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: wing policy advocacy group who have helped shape the policy 92 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: of Republican presidents since Ronald Reagan, who was the president 93 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: in the US in the eighties. So they have a 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: really long history of recommending policies for Republican presidents and 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: then those Republican presidents implementing their recommendations, and certainly they 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: have that relationship with Trump. So actually when Trump was 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: elected in twenty sixteen, by twenty eighteen, the Heritage Foundation 98 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: said that of the three hundred policy recommendations they had 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: made to the Trump administration at the time, he had 100 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: adopted two thirds of them as well. So there is 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: a history there of the Heritage Foundation working with Donald 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Trump in terms of what they want to do this time. 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: They've basically put together a plan for how Trump can 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: make really big policy changes in areas like immigration, abortion defense. 105 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: There were also some tax recommendations. It is important to 106 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: acknowledge though, that consistently throughout the campaign, Trump really tried 107 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: to distance himself from Project twenty twenty five. That is, 108 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: despite the fact that a lot of his closest advisors 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: did work on these policy recommendations, but he just consistently 110 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: denied that he was part of it. Basically, in terms 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: of the actual question of whether he can of whether 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: he can implement Project twenty twenty five, the answer is yes, 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: particularly if the Republican Party has control of the Senate 114 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: and the House of Reps. At the time of recording, 115 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: we know that they do have control of the Senate. 116 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: We're still waiting to hear on the House of Reps. 117 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: But the Republican Party is ahead. 118 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so there would be really if Trump wanted to, 119 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: there would be a full mandate there to implement Project 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. But we have heard time and time 121 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: again that that's not what he wants to do. 122 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, although his policy recommendations are quite aligned with Project 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Okay. Next question, Zara, what will the 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: impact of Donald Trump's presidency be on global wars? Small question? 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we got this question asked about both Ukraine 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: and the war in Gazas. So when Donald Trump got 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: up the other night and declared victory, as part of 128 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: the early part of his victory speech, he said he 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: will stop the wars. So that was very clearly something 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: that was front of mind, and we knew that throughout 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: the campaign. When we you and I sat here and 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: did a podcast about the presidential debate, we spoke about 133 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: the fact that Trump had said that he would end 134 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: the Russia Ukraine war before he actually gets into office. 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: So when he said that back during that debate, he 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: was saying that this period between now and January, when 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: he becomes president officially, he thinks that he can stop 138 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: the war in Ukraine by them big claim, big claim. 139 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this is a war that's been 140 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: going on for years, and he is saying that as 141 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: president he can put an end to that. I think, 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: in a kind of very literal, immediate sense, we can 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: expect to see the support for Ukraine lesson, because Donald 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: Trump has said time and time again that he does 145 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: not believe that funding that is going to Ukraine should 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: be sustained at the level that it is at. 147 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: So you're saying that we can expect to see the 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: support or the financial support from the US to Ukraine 149 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: to lessen correct exactly. 150 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what we've been told so far from 151 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He could always change his mind, but that's 152 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: at least the sense that we're getting. In terms of 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: the war in Gaza. There have been kind of less 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: concrete commitments made about when and how that war could 155 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: really come to an end. But Trump is a staunch 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: supporter of Israel, as is Kamala Harris, it should be said. 157 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: But he is also much more politically aligned to the 158 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Israel and has a close relationship with him. 159 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: So I think under a Trump presidency we can really 160 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: expect to see Israel emboldened, strengthened because of that relationship 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: and the kind of political alignment of the right wing 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: leaders there. 163 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Again, big claim. I guess time will tell whether he 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: can deliver on that commitment. 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: All right, So next question, bit of a change of pace. 166 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: We got this one a lot as well. How was 167 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: a convicted criminal allowed to run for president? 168 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: This one's actually a very easy one to answer, because 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,479 Speaker 1: basically there is nothing in the US constitution that prevents 170 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: a convicted criminal from running for president. 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: All right, Well, quick and easy answer, there, Billy onto 172 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: the next one. Then what happens to Donald Trump's legal 173 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: cases now that he is president elect? 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: From a quick and easy one to a very long 175 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: and complicated one. This is really big, and I'm just 176 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: going to go through a few of them at a 177 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: very top level. I'm not going to go into huge 178 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: amount of detail. But basically, so Donald Trump's legal cases, 179 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: there are two state based ones and two federal ones. 180 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: So Trump has the power to pardon himself, which means what, 181 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: So that just means that you can drop criminal charges 182 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: against usually someone else or yourself. Yes, well, no president 183 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: has done it for themselves before, but we will presume 184 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump will do it for himself for the 185 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: two federal charges that are currently against him. Okay, so 186 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: those are the ones at the federal level. Then we 187 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: get to the state level. Now, pardoning is not something 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: that presidents can do at the state level, so he 189 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: can't drop these charges. Now. One of the state ones 190 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: is the one that resulted in the guilty conviction earlier 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: this year, when he was found guilty of falsifying documents 192 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: to cover up hush money he paid to adult film 193 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: star Stormy Daniels. So when we say that Donald Trump 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: is a convicted criminal. It is because of that case 195 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: with Stormy Daniels that we can say that in none 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: of the other cases has there been a guilty verdict 197 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: or a verdict at all. Week I have still been 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: waiting for results in that one. But like I said, 199 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the federal ones will likely be dropped. He is due 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: to be sentenced. 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: For that case, for the Stormy Daniels case. 202 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: For the Stormy Daniels case that he was found guilty in, 203 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: he's due to be sentenced for that in the coming weeks. 204 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: I have no more notes than that. Ye. 205 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: I guess we'll wait and see. Yeah, check back in 206 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: a few weeks. 207 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's going. But we just have no idea. 208 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: An incredibly unique situation we find ourselves in, or rather 209 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: an incredibly unique situation that Donald Trump finds himself in. Yes, okay, 210 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 2: I want to go quickly back to policy, because we 211 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: got quite a few questions about abortion. It was obviously 212 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: a big talking point during the election, and so the 213 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: question that we got a lot was does Donald Trump 214 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: have the power to enact a national abortion ban? 215 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: Again, similar to my answer on Project twenty twenty five, 216 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: if he has control of the Senate, which he does, 217 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: and also the House of Reps. Then he can pretty 218 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: much do what he liked, to do what he likes 219 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: and pass any legislation. But on this topic of a 220 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: national abortion ban, he has consistently said that he will 221 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: not do that and that his position is that abortion 222 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: should be an issue that is up to the states, 223 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: and that is how he plans to leave it. Again, 224 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: who knows what he'll do now that he actually is 225 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: the president, but that was his dance in the campaign. 226 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Next question we got Zara. Is it a coincidence that 227 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Trump has run three similar campaigns but has only lost 228 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: to a man? So they're saying that in twenty sixteen, 229 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump won against Hillary Clinton, in twenty twenty he 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: lost to Joe Biden, and now he has won against 231 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. 232 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a really interesting question. I think 233 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: that it is probably a bit too simplistic to put 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: it down to that or to really answer that. It's difficult. 235 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: There are so many variables. You know that was COVID. 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: There's the economy, there's international conflict. There's so much that 237 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: goes into how and why people choose their president. But 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: I did think that this was an interesting question to 239 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: highlight the differences between Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris's campaigns, 240 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: and you and I were talking about this, But what 241 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: I found so interesting is that in twenty sixteen, the 242 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Democrats went very hard at talking about how consequential electing 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: the first female president would be, and so much of 244 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: the language of breaking through the glass ceiling and you know, 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: the pants suit and all of this. There was so 246 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: much retoric around the fact that America was seemingly on 247 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: the precipice of electing their first female president. Obviously that 248 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: didn't eventuate, That's not what happened, and Donald Trump won 249 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: in that election. And so I think this time around 250 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: the Democrats went for a different strategy. And you'd be 251 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: very hard pressed to find a lot of examples of 252 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris actually talking about that herself. She really didn't 253 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: make it about how historic it would have been for 254 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: a woman, let alone a woman of color, to take 255 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: the presidency. It was more about you know, the policy 256 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: or Donald Trump himself, and a lot less about what 257 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: that would mean for the US. So big difference is there. 258 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: I know that doesn't really answer the question, but I 259 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: just thought it was an interesting thing to talk through. 260 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't talk about it at all. She only 261 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: talked about it issue was asked about it, and when 262 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: she was asked about it, her answer was basically, well, 263 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: it's very clear that I am a woman, But what's 264 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: your next question? 265 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: Next? 266 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: It was such a clear strategy that she did not 267 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: want to focus on it. Okay, last question. Every one 268 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: wanted to hear what Joe Biden, the current president, had 269 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: to say and what we know about this transfer of 270 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: power from now until January. 271 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Yes, so Joe Biden released a statement yesterday our time 272 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: in which he only spoke about Kamala Harris. He in 273 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: the whole statement did not reference the president elect once, 274 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: which I thought was very interesting. I'll read you a 275 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: quote of what he said. He said, as I've said before, 276 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: selecting Kamala was the very first decision I made when 277 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: I became the nominee for president in twenty twenty. It 278 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: was the best decision I made. Her story represents the 279 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: best of America's story, and she made that clear today. 280 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: I have no doubt that she'll continue writing that story. 281 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: So it was very much a positive, uplifting thing about 282 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. But as we know, Joe Biden remains in 283 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: office until January, as does Kamala Harris as the vice president. 284 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Harris did call Donald Trump before she got up and 285 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: spoke publicly, conceding to him privately, and they had a 286 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: phone call there where she committed to the peaceful transfer 287 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: of power, which just means that she will, you know, 288 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: not stand in the way of there being any transfer 289 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Interestingly, as just a 290 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: fun fact to end on, Kamala Harris is going to 291 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: have to be the person to certify the election and 292 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: to certify Donald Trump's presidency. Back in twenty twenty, that 293 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: was Mike Pencer's job, the then vice president. We know 294 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: obviously that there was a lot of controversy that emerged 295 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: that was January sixth insurrection. We understand that that won't 296 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: be the case given Harris's commitment, but you know, just 297 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: an interesting position that she finds herself in months after 298 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: having lost an election to Donald Trump. 299 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: So interesting, and there's still so much that we haven't 300 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: even got into. But that is all we have time 301 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: for today. If you do have any other questions, please 302 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: dm us on Instagram or send us an email or 303 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: however you want to contact us. 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