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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Hugh Ruminton on Chantle ten news last night.

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Speaker 3: We love you very much, not because he buys its

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Speaker 3: gifts from the White House, but also he's a great

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Speaker 3: journalist and does great news.

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Speaker 2: But he had this story that peaked my attention last night.

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Speaker 4: Australia's worst driving habits have been revealed by new research.

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Speaker 4: We are a nation of speeders. A quarter of us,

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Speaker 4: or more than six million people, regularly break the speed limit.

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Speaker 4: More than twenty percent of Aussies have had an accident

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Speaker 4: in the past three years, and less than half of

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Speaker 4: us consider ourselves to be good drivers. But some messages

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Speaker 4: are sinking in. Only seven percent of drivers admit to

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Speaker 4: using a mobile phone behind the wheel.

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Speaker 3: One in four of us regularly speed you do look,

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Speaker 3: I tell you this. Speed has been demonized very much

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Speaker 3: by speed.

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Speaker 2: Speed kill.

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Speaker 3: Speed doesn't kill poor driving kills, and sometimes I would

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Speaker 3: like to see how they adapt when you're on the waterways.

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Speaker 3: When you're on the waterways, there's fours, there's eight knots.

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Speaker 3: They're the various speed limits that you have. Outside of that,

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Speaker 3: you travel at a safe speed. So there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of roads around Sydney, that you can travel safe. For example,

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Speaker 3: at three point thirty in the morning, when I'm riding

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Speaker 3: along to work, there is no one on Lane Cove

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Speaker 3: raid I you could quite easily.

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Speaker 2: You could do one hundred and twenty on that road.

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Speaker 3: Not that I do, but you could do one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty on that road and you would be safe.

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Speaker 5: Let me play Devil's advocate here, just because the other

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Speaker 5: side to this story is that you're a safe driver.

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Speaker 5: You're going along, you say, I think it's appropriate. I'm

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Speaker 5: a good driver. I can speed. Other people think they're

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Speaker 5: good drivers even when they're not. So your idea of

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Speaker 5: when it's safe to speed and someone else's idea of

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Speaker 5: when it's safe to speed are two different things, which

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Speaker 5: is why we have to have a rule for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Me saying I metabolize alcohol differently. Therefore zero point five

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Speaker 5: doesn't relate to me. You can't have a society like that.

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Speaker 5: It has to be one sweek.

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Speaker 2: I think the Swiss do, yeah.

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Speaker 5: But we don't have that here. We have to cater

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Speaker 5: for everybody. We have to cater for the lowest nominator,

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Speaker 5: and that's where how our rules kick in. You can't

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Speaker 5: have roads where the rules apply to some and not others.

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Speaker 3: I just often find double demeritss coming up this long

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Speaker 3: weeke long weekend over Australia weekend. What happens is because

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Speaker 3: you don't want to lose your license. So you're in

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Speaker 3: a situation. You're in a car, you're driving along. You're

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Speaker 3: to be sitting next to a B double that's doing

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Speaker 3: one hundred ks, and so you're on a dual carriageway.

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Speaker 3: So you want to get past that car, past that track.

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Speaker 3: So so you pep it up to a you know,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and ten one.

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Speaker 6: Hundred, we get out of get dangerous scenario, and.

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Speaker 2: Then you can pulled up because you're going over the speed.

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Speaker 6: I know, I know, but I guess.

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Speaker 3: Should there should be reasonable discretion when it comes to speed.

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Speaker 6: Well, I guess we do have a court of appeal

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Speaker 6: for this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're going to go to the court,

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Speaker 2: I know, But what.

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Speaker 6: Else can you do?

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Speaker 5: Otherwise you're going to get someone who's going to go

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Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy on that.

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Speaker 6: Road because they can.

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Speaker 2: So you never speed, of course I do.

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Speaker 5: But I'm very actually since I lost a whole lot

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Speaker 5: of points in one go because there were roadworks and

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Speaker 5: I didn't see this changing thing.

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Speaker 3: That in the tunnel they dropped it down to forty

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Speaker 3: k's but there's no roadworks going on. Yes, it was

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Speaker 3: an oversight by the tunnel guy that he hasn't put

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Speaker 3: the speed signs back proptly.

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Speaker 5: But then since then, I've been so careful, and I

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Speaker 5: say to my friends if we go to the Blue

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Speaker 5: Mountains or something, I say, can you check the speed

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Speaker 5: limits because I'm very, very conscious. Now we drive to

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Speaker 5: the South Coast over the holidays, I'm so so conscious

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Speaker 5: of staying the speed limit.

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Speaker 6: And you're right.

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Speaker 5: It takes your natural driving ability away and you find

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Speaker 5: yourself next to a truck and you can't get around them.

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Speaker 6: But I've been had the fear of God put into

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Speaker 6: me speeding.

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Speaker 2: Does it pass the pub test?

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Speaker 6: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: You like?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 6: You? Speed's appropriate?

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Speaker 2: I love going fast.

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Speaker 3: There was nothing better than winding at a motorcycle at

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Speaker 3: speed is fantastic.

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Speaker 5: But what if everyone Brendan who wanted to go fast

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Speaker 5: went fast because you're competent in your capabilities. Sure there've

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Speaker 5: been ten accidents, yep, but other people share the road

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Speaker 5: with you, and.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. That last accident. I had

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Speaker 3: the doozy on the Triumph. That was an eighty K zone.

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Speaker 3: I was doing under eighty k's I was doing seventy

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Speaker 3: and I hit some.

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Speaker 2: Gravel on the road.

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Speaker 3: So speed limits a kind of a moot point when

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Speaker 3: you look at it, because the road was unsafe, I

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Speaker 3: was in unsafe conditions if I was riding at a

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Speaker 3: safe speed. If anything, that speed limit gave me a

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Speaker 3: false sense of security. That was the terrible It's Captain

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Speaker 3: Thunderbolt's way.

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible, terrible ray.

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Speaker 3: But I was thinking, oh, it's eighty and next minute

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Speaker 3: I'm lying on the road with a busted back.

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Speaker 5: Well, speed limits are there, and they are irritating. I know,

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Speaker 5: and I guess I'm playing Devil's advocate because I got

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Speaker 5: down to hard on any points at some point. But

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Speaker 5: we think we're great drivers, we all do. So we

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Speaker 5: think I'm capable to go faster here, and it seems natural.

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Speaker 5: There's no other traffic around four in the morning when

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Speaker 5: I on our way to work, why can't I speed?

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Speaker 5: But I am aware that one rule has to be

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Speaker 5: for everybody. It's like drink driving. You have to have

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Speaker 5: that same rule for everybody because we have different capabilities,

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Speaker 5: and just because you're good doesn't mean everyone.

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Speaker 2: Else is speeding. Does it pass the pub test?

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Speaker 1: No. I'm in the traffic every day and the things

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Speaker 1: that I see scamming crazy.

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Speaker 3: Drivers, I agree with what Janey's saying. Sometimes you need

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Speaker 3: to put the foot down a little bit harder.

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Speaker 1: If you understand what I mean. They're trying to get

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Speaker 1: around a truck or something going up a hill or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But we're teaching our young people to drive. There's no

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Speaker 1: by the emphasis on safe driving. It's more just don't feed.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to do more twitching about how

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Speaker 1: to be a defensive driver and less emphasis on speeding.

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Speaker 1: For me, watched driver is allowed to be point oh five,

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Speaker 1: So a little bit of drinking is tolerated, but a

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Speaker 1: little bit of spreeding is absolutely not tolerated, and that

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Speaker 1: puzzles me.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 5: So if you get done for three over the limit

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Speaker 5: or something that's okay.

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Speaker 6: Isn't it three?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: No? No?

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Speaker 6: Three? You know three k's over the limit.

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Speaker 3: There's a gray area. I know a guy that got

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Speaker 3: pulled up and he was five k's over the limit.

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Speaker 2: The Copple said, well, the speed limit is fifty k's,

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Speaker 2: you're doing fifty five

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Speaker 5: So there isn't necessarily a period of grace in That

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Speaker 5: comes down to discretion and seeing Amanda's gamnation.