1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: this podcast. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: The wererunerie people. This land was never seated, always was, 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: always will. 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Be quick boring bit before all the fun stuff. Guys, 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Two Good Sports and our mates at ARN aren't sponsors of, 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: or affiliated with, or officially connected to the Olympic Games, 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: the IOC or the AOC. It is so good to 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: have harving on my back of sponsors for this. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: Unofficial greener golden dish it Dear listeners, if there's one thing, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: hopefully after four seasons together, that you have learned about 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Jelmy and myself, it's that we love the games, all 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: versions of it, all iterations of it. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: We also have a rather unrealistic dream of thinking that 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: we're a pre season away from making our games debuts. However, 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: not even our combined outrageously unjustified audacity could lead us 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: to think that we could possibly compete there I say, 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: star in both the Summer Games and the Winter Games. 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: But that is exactly what our next guest has done. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Oh and she's also found time to become a doctor 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: as well, because there is nothing that this woman cannot 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: do with Milano Cortina in a full swing. Who better 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: for us to chat to than a two time world champion, 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: full time common world champion hurdler and part of the 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Ossie Bob s led folklore. 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: It's Yana Pittman. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 4: That's a lovely introductive guy. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 5: Oh you know what, Georgie, that was very very impressive, 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 5: that entire introduction, the most impressive thing for. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: Me, mother of six. 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 5: You left out the headline, Georgie, how do you do 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: it all? 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Yanna? 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: Firstly, paint us a picture of where you are, because 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: I've never related to anyone more. 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 39 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: I'm sitting in my garage, hiding from my children right 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: now with my oldest grandfather who turns eighty this year. 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: Who's babysity while I talk to you guys. 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: I love it, absolutely love it. 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: The reality tell us a little bit about being a 44 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 5: doctor now and making those choices because you're starting for 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: an exam. Are you just someone that the elite is 46 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: all that you can accept? 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: No, And look, you know what, I would have said 48 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 4: that up until maybe four or five years ago, but 49 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: it's been a real reality check doing medicine because it's 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 4: you know, your people's lives are in your hands and 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: none of if not everything goes to plan. And I 52 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: really try to change that about myself. It is hard 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: as an elite athlete to take that grain out of 54 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: your DNA. But I'm like next year, for example, the 55 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: kids and I am part of this year and to 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: travel around Astralia and a caravan, So we are trying 57 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 4: to change that plan. But it's hardwired, that's true. 58 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: Caravan with six kids, Yana. 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and it doesn't sound like a holiday, does it. 60 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: A game sounds easier at this point, honestly, yeah. 61 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 62 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: But it's that level of focus, Yana, that I feel 63 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: like has led you to achieve all that you have 64 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to Jermy and I love to talk 65 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: about inspiration on this podcast, whether that be you know, 66 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: your history as a summer athlete, your history as a 67 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: winter athlete. What were those initial icons for you that 68 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: you followed and you thought, oh, I can I can 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: do this, I want to achieve this kind of things 70 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: in sport. 71 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually amazing to say that because I have 72 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: been someone who has always had mentors or always had 73 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: someone who I've sort of put on a pedestal and 74 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: followed through my life so certainly as a younger person 75 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 4: like many of us. Kathy Freeman and Debbie flintof King, 76 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: who were goddesses in our in track and field in 77 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 4: Australia and obviously both Olympic gold medalists are in the 78 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: four and four hundred hurdles respectively, loved them. They were 79 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 4: all over my walls as a child, and I said, 80 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: we don't do that anymore. It's probably good for blue 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: tach for the walls, but I haven't posted everywhere so 82 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: that I could dream in their success. And even now 83 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: as a doctor, I held Catherine Hamlin in my heart, 84 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: who is a female extraordinary obstitution guy in a cologist 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: who pretty much paved ways in Ethiopia and saved over 86 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: thirty thousand young women's lives in a very different space 87 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: in sports and not what we're here to talk about. 88 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: But I still do it, even at early forties. I 89 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: still have mentors that I follow their footsteps because I 90 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: don't see them as daunting. I think a lot of 91 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: people look at success in others and think, oh goodness, me, 92 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: that's tiring. I couldn't do that, how impossible, When I 93 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: actually think it sets precedent for us to say, look, 94 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: I may not choose to do the crazy job that 95 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: she but if I want to, it's. 96 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 5: It's a potential, and it is those sort of moments 97 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 5: you mentioned, the Golden Girls and those that win gold. 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: You know what it's like to win gold for Australia 99 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: at the comm Games in Melbourne, eighty thousand strong fans 100 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: screaming for you. How much do you carry those memories 101 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: of what do they mean to you? 102 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: Particularly that one? And funnily enough, so obviously I've won 103 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: Worlds as well, which theoretically is a trickier and harder 104 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: to win and more prestigious if you like. But I 105 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: remember that one so vividly because there were so many 106 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: people with Aussie flags and it was so loud, like 107 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: when they announced your name, it was like this woof 108 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 4: and this enormous energy in the stadium. So I can 109 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 4: feel like it was yesterday stand there and fill the 110 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 4: goose pimples on my arm. So, and I was quite injured. 111 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: I'm always injured, as you probably remember, but I was 112 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: quite as to that race, and I truly feel like 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: it was the crowd that carried me home to that 114 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: gold medal because my hands fring was half hanging off. 115 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: So it was one of those really amazing events where 116 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: you realize what it impact a crowd can have on 117 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: an athlete. 118 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: What was the moment, Yana that you thought when that 119 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: kind of mindset also almost shifted. You were trying to 120 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: farewell your incredible athletics career and then not to just 121 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: go into the background, fade into the background, begin your 122 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: medical career early. You then thought, hang on a second, 123 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: now I'm going to pursue Bob Slid. 124 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: Where did that come from? How was that jump? How 125 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: did that how did you make that? 126 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: Well? A bit of both. Actually, So I trained with 127 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: Lydia Lacelle in the gym for many years now. She's 128 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: obviously bree Walker, who is one of our metal favorites. 129 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: So the coming Platina Games, the bob sled she'll be 130 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: in and I'm hoping after three podium sure, he's got 131 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: three gold medals in Europe this year, so hopefully she'll 132 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: come out and get gold if nothing else silver or bronze. 133 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: She got fifth at the last Winter Olympics. So in 134 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: the mono bops it's the one woman Bob Slid and 135 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: so Lydia and I've sort of been training and I 136 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: love the idea of watching the Winter Games. And when 137 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: I unfortunately lost the London Olympics. So in the long run, 138 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: I never won the Olympic Games in track and field, 139 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: despite being world champion and odds on favorite on three occasions. 140 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 4: Injury knocked me out of three Olympic Games in a row. 141 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I ran, but I didn't I didn't bring 142 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 4: home the goods. I wanted to go to another Olympic 143 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: Games and you know the in the spirit of the Olympics, 144 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 4: enjoy and realized how incredibly lucky I was to represent 145 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: our country. And so I was doing boxing and rowing, 146 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: and then I literally bumped into Lydia who's like, why 147 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: don't you try bobsled? And I'm like, okay, that's interesting. 148 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: And then literally a couple of weeks later Astrodrojenovitch, who 149 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: was the current pilot. So in a bobsled, there's a 150 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: pilot who drives the sled and a brakewoman who pushes 151 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: at the back the big muscle musty ones like you 152 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: see in cool runnings. 153 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: I love a cool running reference. Yeah, speaking my language, yes, 154 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: speaking language yeah. 155 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: And so she gave me a call up and did 156 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: you want to give it a try, and literally within 157 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: four months I was in the back of a sled 158 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: having a crack and it was wonderful. It was like, 159 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: it was such an incredibly amazing opportunity. I mean, don't 160 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: get me wrong, Unlike Brie, we weren't ever going to win. 161 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: We were probably in the top eight for a lot 162 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: of the races, and in the end we end up 163 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 4: coming eleventh the Olympic Games, which is still fantastic for 164 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: an Australian team, but you know, realistically not in the 165 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: same class what Breeze now is showing what Australia can 166 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: do in that event. But it was an amazing opportunity 167 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: to sort of really realize, as I said, how lucky 168 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: it is to represent your country, and to do it 169 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: in two different sports, in two different winter and summer 170 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: games was a dream come true in all truth. 171 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: Well, actually, Yanna, you mention bree Walker, and she is 172 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: such a star, someone that we not only think is 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: a chance to podium, but she could genuinely come home 174 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 5: potentially with the goal from these games. I'm just putting 175 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: it out there given her recent World Cup run. She 176 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: is someone who said she was inspired by Kathy Freeman, 177 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: had a goal at track, and it was watching you 178 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: that made her think that I could have a goal 179 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: at the bob Sleigh. Is the fact that you're someone 180 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 5: who's always had mentors to now give that back and 181 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 5: to hear that from someone who's gone on to be 182 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: at the top of her game. 183 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: How much does that mean to you? 184 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: I mean, it's fantastic. I remember meeting her at the 185 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: very beginning and even thought, well, maybe I should stay 186 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: doing a bit more bobsleds so I could push for her, 187 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: because I thought maybe that might be my final chance 188 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: of getting a medal a couple of years ago. 189 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: It's not beyond you to make a comeback. 190 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: Other Oh well, look a couple of the bob setters 191 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: a bit older as well. And I certainly flirted with 192 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: the idea for at least two or three years, but 193 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: you know, really scared for sure. I got back into 194 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: training and I contacted her a few times, and there 195 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: was two teams going. There's two teams now as well, 196 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: but two teams at that point, and I undernard and 197 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: you know what, you've got to grow up sometime, guys. 198 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: I had that face, had three kids. I was a 199 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: third or fourth year medical student, I'm like, Yanna stop, 200 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: Like you know, there is a ceiling and you've reached 201 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: the back off woman. 202 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: So I can just see the shot of you at 203 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: the back of the bob with some sort of medical 204 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: book being like I've just got to finish this and 205 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: then I've got to put it down and a lot 206 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: to have it for give me a minute. 207 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so you've got a dream. But she's extraordinary, 208 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: so I you know, obviously we did the same event 209 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: for quite a while. She was a hurdle of the 210 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: same as me. Yeah, and that allowed, you know, some recruitment, 211 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: which is really the good place for track and field 212 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: athletes to come in to bobs their track and field 213 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: athletes in downhill like anyone in some like motocross and 214 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: their mex or MTV. But it's whichever you know, you 215 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: buy into make great Bob satters because they're quite feelers 216 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: that they're strong and their power. So if there's anyone 217 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 4: listening to this who's an avid runner but not quite 218 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 4: making the Australian team for track and field, Bob said's 219 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: your game mate, you walk? 220 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask you about that Yan, 221 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to sound stupid, but I'm also 222 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: not afraid of sounding stupid. It's more difficult hurdling or Bob. 223 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: Slid Oh, track of Bill is much harder, but it's 224 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: also when I say hard, well, it's different because it 225 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: depends on your body. Unfortunately, was probably never supposed to 226 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: run track. I was probably supposed to be a thrower. 227 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: I'm almost six foot, guys, and I weigh comfortably eighty 228 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: kilos when I'm doing gym at the moment. The only 229 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: reason I'm slimmer is because I barely touch a weight. 230 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: But if you're that kind of heavy, you just get 231 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: injured all the time. And so fast on my track 232 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: and field career, and don't get me wrong, obviously I 233 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: was the best in the world for a long time, 234 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: but I was always injured because I was always too heavy, 235 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: and you know, and it's pure physics. If you've got 236 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: a lot of weight going through the ground, it reverberates 237 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: five times into your legs and your bones can't cope 238 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: with it. Your muscle get torn. So whereas in Bob 239 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: Slaids it was speed, it was I was lifting super 240 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: heavy weights in the gym, which meant it actually my 241 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: shasty st ure was strengthened by the amount of weight, 242 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: and it didn't matter because I needed I was totled 243 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: too skinny. Can you imagine I was? I remember as 244 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: a track athletely on you're too fat, Yana, you're too fat, 245 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: You're too fat, you're too fat, constantly and then getting 246 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: on the scales and having my skin folds done as 247 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: a bobsitter, and then going you're too thin, Yana, you 248 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: need to put weight on it. I was like a 249 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: part of me say that again, You're. 250 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: Like, has this game's always been an option? Why? Why 251 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: have I been over here when this sounds nice? We 252 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: can do this. 253 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: You made your debut representing your country at just sixteen 254 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: years old. This is something that we see a lot 255 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: with winter athletes, where we've got Inja Brown, who's only 256 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: just sixteen. We're talking days into being sixteen representing our country. 257 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: And we know with Scotty James and Brick Cox, these 258 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: are the sort of stars for the winter side of 259 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 5: things that we see start so early. What sort of 260 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: mentality do you need as a child to compete for 261 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 5: your country? 262 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: You know? I mean I've even seen Jared Hughes and 263 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: Bella Brokoffs, they've been doing this sport for decades, and 264 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: I've watched them when they were younger, and obviously they're 265 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: still competing and I'm well retired ten years now. Well 266 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: it is wild and it's interesting to watch them coming 267 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: through as adults now and like the mentors and the 268 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: seniors in the team and it's like, wow, I remember 269 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: you when you were like me high to a grashopper 270 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: and can barely put the sentence together. So, and it 271 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: is a challenge. And when you've been in sports for 272 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: such a long time, do you know one of the 273 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: biggest things you don't have is good social etiquette and 274 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 4: being out, particularly with the media. And I don't know 275 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: if you guys remember, but I had a real rough 276 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: truck with the media when I was young. 277 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, media stun Who would be in that? Ya? 278 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: Hell? The it's just you don't have that skill set, 279 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: Like you're just a kid, and you're a kid that's 280 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: micromanaged by your medical team and your coaches, and you know, 281 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: even your schooling is very strict, and when you can 282 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: study and when you have time to train, otherwise things 283 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: don't go to play. So it means you don't have 284 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: that skill set to make good decisions when it comes 285 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 4: to media, it's tricky to make decisions for social active 286 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: is when you have time off, and so it is 287 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: tricky when they eventually become older and it's a big 288 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: learning curve and it's a long time to keep your 289 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: mental health going in the right direction and not falling 290 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: off the wagon when things like injuries come into play. 291 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: So it's it's amazing when you see Olympians walk into 292 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 4: a stadium on their fifth Olympic Games. You sometimes see 293 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: it the s Olympics with our rowers and volleyballers as well, 294 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: but you know, it's quite extraordinary when you see some 295 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: of these veterans of sports still making their fourth and 296 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: fist Olympics. 297 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and especially when we're talking about I guess athletes, 298 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: A big thing and a big thing for you is 299 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 5: talking about fear and how you can overcome fear. How 300 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 5: have you changed that word and what is a way 301 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: that you can turn it around? 302 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, fear's my fate. I love doing. I 303 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: do a lot of public speaking, as you may know, 304 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 4: but fear is my main, my main talking point when 305 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: I do my discussions and for me, fear is your 306 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: false evidence appearing real. So fear is false evidence appearing 307 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: real and it isn't it great? I love it. I 308 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: got taught this. I went and did speaking International Women's 309 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: Day about five years ago, and it's a little old. 310 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: She would have been eighty five year old. Doctor came 311 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: up to me. She was from India and she'd immigrated 312 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: to Australia and had this amazing story and then she 313 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: gave me that acronym and I said, could I nick 314 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: it from you? And you're probably not even necessarily alive 315 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: or anymore, but she's like, yes, I love you too, 316 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 4: And so she gave me this because it's resonated so well, 317 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 4: because that's exactly what it is. Ninety percent of the time, 318 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: our fear comes from past experience, is not going to plan. 319 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: Other people's opinions getting in the way and giving you, 320 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: you know, the incorrect decision around whether you are capable 321 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: of something. And if you can sit down and write 322 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: down it's a bit pesitisty, but if you can sit 323 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 4: down and write down what the worst case scenario that 324 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: comes out of something, and you're really honest with yourself, 325 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: you know it might be disappointment, lack of finances, embarrassment. 326 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: You can most of the time cross those offers not 327 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: correct false evidence, and that leaves you the ability to 328 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: focus on only the things that truly need to keep 329 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: you awake at night, or in fact, better than that 330 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: stop you waking at night, because you realize that a 331 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: lot of it is it is doable, and in fact, 332 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: you don't know if you don't try. And certainly a 333 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 4: medicine now and I'm sure people listening will think, how 334 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: on earth do you do you know medicine? I'm training 335 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: to be an obstetrician gynecologist, My exams are approaching, as 336 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 4: you heard, with six children, how is it possible? And 337 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: it's like, well, you know what, I had that conversation 338 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: with myself two years ago, three years ago when I 339 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: started training. I sat there and go, I can't do this. 340 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: This is absolutely impossible. And funnily enough, my massage therapist 341 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: for the Olympics rang up and said, well, you've never 342 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: had a problem with it before, Yard, and you've always 343 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: done crazy things, and how do you know if you 344 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: don't try, you can always stop and change a different direction. 345 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: And I'm like, wow, you're so right. If it doesn't work, 346 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: we'll find something else. But you don't know if you 347 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: don't give it a shot. 348 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: I feel like as a summer athlete, the worst case scenario, 349 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: you're like, I might be embarrassed, I might fall over, 350 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: Like what if I drop? 351 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: As a winter athlete, the worst thing you can probably 352 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: do is die with. 353 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: Like some of these aerial particularly the aerial scheme, you're 354 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: watch and you're like, oh yeah, sometimes are overcorrect into water. 355 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: What if you're doing this. 356 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: Did you ever get a chance when you were obviously 357 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 5: competing in the bob sleigh to go and watch other 358 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 5: events and did you have a favorite that you loved 359 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 5: to watch purely for that because they are a spectacle. 360 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: One hundred event and actually, funnily like the aerial skiing 361 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: was my favorite event, as I said, because I'd trained 362 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: with Lydia in the gym down the vis in Melbourne, so. 363 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: I imagine she'd be gentle in the gym. Lydia she 364 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: doesn't go too hard. 365 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: No, oh body, she is a mad woman. She's just 366 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: cut exactly like me. We're very much cut from the 367 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: same cloth, which is great. But I also know Jackie 368 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: Cooper many years ago as well, and I lista champlin, 369 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: So I think that event has always been one that 370 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: I've just really had my eye, and I also think 371 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: it's extraordinary. The fear, as you said, would be imagine 372 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: launching off that like, you know, meeters and meters in 373 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: the air, flipping and hoping it might land correctly. I 374 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: can't even fathom it, but I remember watching. Obviously, Lydia 375 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: was already Olympic gold medalist and in Sachi at the 376 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: Games I went for, she tried to do one of 377 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: the skills that only men had ever landed to win 378 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: the Olympic gold and in doing so she didn't quite 379 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: stick it so therefore and lost that gold medal. But 380 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: I just thought a brave, extraordinary thing to do at 381 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: the very beginning of you know, the very well, I 382 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: guess almost towards the end of her career. It was 383 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: her last Olympic campaign, but she knew that if she 384 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: landed that, so for her it was about performance, not 385 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: about medals. And I found that such an inspiring thing 386 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: to watch, because you know, she's already won, she's already 387 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: won gold. But for her it was about a legacy 388 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: she wanted to leave to do. I think it was 389 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: a quadruple flip or something something ridiculously nuts that only 390 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: men had stuck at a major competition, and she decided 391 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: that was her goal for the Games. And I found 392 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: that just really admirable. 393 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Would you say, Yanna, And I mean, you know, I 394 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: am asking you to generalize here, but is there a 395 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: difference between the vibe the mindset the people at the 396 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: Summer Games versus the Winter Games? Because you were in 397 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: a very unique situation that you have case. 398 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: Studies of both. 399 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: And look, you know, it's funny I always say that, 400 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: and then some of my swimming friends always get the 401 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: shits with me as already swear language. But we trained 402 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: together in the Winter Game. So in there was fifty 403 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: six in the Winter Olympic team and twenty eight is 404 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 4: and were coached by John Marsden, who was my weights coach, 405 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: so we all knew each other. And so despite being 406 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 4: across multiple different events, the collegiate nature of the Winter 407 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: Olympic Games made it really wonderful to be a part of. 408 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 4: You know, Alex Pullan was in my training group, and 409 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: you know, so we had we had people that were 410 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: Sam Kennedy and you know, brock Bello, Brockfield, so we 411 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: just we just we had so many people that made 412 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: gorockoff sorry, made such a difference to know, well, you're 413 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: not in the same sport, not in the same event, 414 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: but then they all came and watched you compete at 415 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 4: the Games, there was varying levels. You know, Pullan was 416 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: obviously trying to win gold. It didn't happen, so you 417 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: shared that disappointment with him, and when you know Lydia 418 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: didn't pull off her event, to see how extraordinarily she 419 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 4: handled not winning was amazing and such a It was 420 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: so inspiring to be part of that team. And don't 421 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: get be wrong with Summer Games is like that too, 422 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: but it's very segregated. So track and field stays with 423 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: track and field, swimming stays with swimming. You know, the 424 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: shooters stay with the shooters, and it's you do make 425 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 4: some friends across the game, but it just feels more. 426 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 4: It felt more competitive and intense and separated, whereas I 427 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: feel like, and I guess it comes down to it. 428 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: Let's be honest as well, running four hundred meters is 429 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: not fun, so there's no part of anybody who wants 430 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: to go and do it just because it's great, whereas 431 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: going skiing and snowboarding is something everyone does because they 432 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 4: love it, not just because it's a competitive thing to do. 433 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: So these kids grew up doing something they loved, whereas 434 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 4: we all did something because we were good at it. 435 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 4: You got the accolades for it and it was fun 436 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 4: to win, but the event itself sucked. 437 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: Guy. 438 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 4: It was hard and horrible and just makes you vombit 439 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: every time. So there's not much enjoyment in that. 440 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 5: Oh, I cannot relate more to what you just said, 441 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: because every time I watched someone run four hundred in particular, 442 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 5: it's the worst distance known to man. 443 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: It's a sprint that goes far too long. It's awful. 444 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: Whereas I just think with as you said, there's something 445 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: and we always just say Winter Olympians are so cool. 446 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 5: There's something no un intended but they're just absolute weapons. 447 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: We would love to ask you more about the Games, 448 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: but really I want to know what's hard, the Amazing 449 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 5: Race or sas Australia given. My co host recently went 450 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: on the Amazing Race and I said to her, dear God, 451 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: everyone's going to see how competitive you are. She's not 452 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 5: someone who's represented her country in sport. 453 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: You are. 454 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: Was there something in your head that went, there's a 455 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 5: side of me that not everyone needs to see up 456 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 5: close on camera. 457 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because it didn't come out in sas 458 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: Australia at all. So and I because I'm not actually 459 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 4: a naturally competitive person usually what but explain so not 460 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: not in sport yet so in track and field I 461 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: definitely am, but in like medicine, for example, I guess 462 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: academically I tried hard with my exams, but I'm not 463 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: someone who fights and scrubble. I've never I'm not into 464 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 4: board games competitively. If we play tennis, it's to play lobs, 465 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: it's not to play for support. I hate it. I 466 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: absolutely hate competition. And I don't know if I don't 467 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: know if that's always been the case. I don't know 468 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 4: if it's because I had so much much competition as 469 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: a young person. I now just don't like. I'm far 470 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: more interested in being part of a team and just 471 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: sort of doing things as a group in a collegiate 472 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: space rather than which I think is why I love 473 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 4: Bob said, because it was actually all about Astroid. She 474 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 4: was a pilot, she was the key of the team. 475 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: I was just her support career. I was her brakewoman. 476 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 4: And so it is, and so I hear you saying 477 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 4: it does sound like, oh my god, that's ridiculous. But 478 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: I'm very happy blending in in a group now, and 479 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: I find that such a nice way to be. And 480 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: I actively don't like competitive events, like I won't race ever, 481 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: but I run for fun kind of thing now because 482 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: I don't like being pitched against someone else to find it. Really, 483 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: I find it quite uncomfortable in my soul. So again, 484 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's something you've changed as I've 485 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: gotten older, although I've never been competitive in board games, 486 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 4: so it's interesting. I don't really know, but yeah, you 487 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 4: should have fuck that out. 488 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: At some other point we thought maybe we could be 489 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: three good sports. But the fact that you're not competitive 490 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: and like to run for fun means that you couldn't 491 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: be any more different than. 492 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: Georgia and I. 493 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 5: I feel like that was the exact moment that I 494 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: went on. I just want some of your glory to 495 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: rub off on me, whether it be much. 496 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: Would you sound healthier? It sounds healthy. 497 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 5: You sounds a little bit happier than us, But we 498 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 5: know that you do have exams to get back to 499 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: and all of those things. But I think we are 500 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: just so grateful for you giving us your time. Will 501 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: you be in touch with Brie? Will you be speaking 502 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: to with her over the games or do you just 503 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: let her do a thing. 504 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: I messaged her in the season occasionally, but to be 505 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: honest with you, her main mentor is actually Lydia Lascilla, 506 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: and I think right now she's the best person for 507 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 4: it because she's on the ground and speaks to her regularly. 508 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: It's more just a message of support these days. But yeah, 509 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: earlier on, yes, but I think, do you know what, 510 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: most people feel like they're bothering me, which is absolutely 511 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: not the case, but they're like, oh, she's so busy, 512 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: she hasn't got time. But if she ever reached out, 513 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: I would love to have a conversation with her, because 514 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: I think she's an absolute superstar. 515 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 5: I must admit we thought you were busy, and we 516 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: were bothering you by being like, I wonder if she 517 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: come off for a chat because she's gonna be. 518 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: Busy, but so and so. 519 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I just have to ask 520 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: this very technical question. As a Queenslander who's never skied, 521 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: has never seen any version really of snow, how cold 522 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: is it in the arenas when you're competing and the 523 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: village itself, like just let's talk about the ellen, like 524 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: how freezing is it for you to deal with all 525 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: of that among get trying to get your head in 526 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: the game. 527 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: Not at all, because you have the right clothing and 528 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: this is such an oddy question. So it's perfect when 529 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: you're prepared. We just don't. We're not used to cold 530 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: in Australia, so the outfits we have are very well 531 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: suited to that environment. Yeah, of course it gets cold day. 532 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 4: Saint Maurritz is actually one of the coldest places I've 533 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: ever been to and it was like minus twenty one. 534 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 4: But it's only wind till factor, so it depends how 535 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: windy it is as to how cold you are. But 536 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 4: you know, I mean I actually love the cold and 537 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: love the snow. It's the one thing I missed so much. 538 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: We went to the snow four times last year just 539 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: because I missed winter sports so much. So just Ginevie 540 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 4: obviously an up at perishure, but you know, I think 541 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: it's obviously time for you to get on some skis then, but. 542 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 5: They throw around the challenge we need the amazing race 543 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: on ski. 544 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Says I have to do it. 545 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so so much. For your time. We really 546 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: appreciate it, doctor, and best of luck. 547 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: With the kids, best of luck with the caravan, and 548 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 5: I'm sure you'd be watching the games as intently as 549 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 5: we will. 550 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for your 551 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: Time, thanks for having me, Thanks so much to having 552 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: On for making this unofficial Green and Golden dish possible.