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Speaker 1: I was a little concerned with this one because I

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Speaker 1: love her, but I don't know a huge amount about her,

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Speaker 1: which is why we will say the second was a

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Speaker 2: With all due respect, we had to think with this one. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: An envelope contains the music topic to discuss this five

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Speaker 3: minutes on the clock to film, and there's no time

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Speaker 3: to prayer this. He's banter with Clezy and Lisa.

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Speaker 2: I've got the timer ready to go.

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Speaker 4: It is are the Coin of Soul Franklin.

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Speaker 2: Time starts now five minutes. Well, what a legend.

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Speaker 1: She's incredible, Aretha Franklin. I mean, what do you say

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Speaker 1: about Aretha Franklin. Well, one thing, I'll say, be disappointed

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Speaker 1: with the movie.

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Speaker 4: That they made.

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Speaker 2: You didn't like it?

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Speaker 4: No, it was, and she's fabulous. She was a wonderful choice.

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Speaker 2: I think it wasn't she Aretha's choice to play her.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but just the script focused on all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you know, you already knew. You wanted

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Speaker 1: to know what.

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Speaker 4: Made Aretha Aretha, and you get that from the.

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Speaker 1: Documentary, but you don't get it from the movie.

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Speaker 4: And I thought it was disappointing.

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Speaker 5: We talk about a lot about an amazing relationship. There

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Speaker 5: was violence in her marriage or something along those lines.

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Speaker 5: I had haven't seen it, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There was violence right from the beginning Forretha Franklin growing up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think her dad was the most pleasant person

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Speaker 1: ringing around and might have used her as a bit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not the first family member to do that.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, but we won't be the last. But

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Speaker 1: what a voice. Of course, like so many of those

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Speaker 1: amazing voices grew up, you know, getting it right by

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Speaker 1: singing in gospel choirs, and.

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Speaker 5: They'll be in there every weekend. Just she's such a natural,

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Speaker 5: wasn't she? Aretha Franklin and influenced so many people. I'm

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Speaker 5: not just talking about the girl had someone's her name,

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Speaker 5: Jennifer Jennifertson, not just her, so many singers and those

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Speaker 5: get that stature of Aretha who were inspired by her

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Speaker 5: to sort of go out and wield their craft and

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Speaker 5: sing live.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like she didn't really get the credit

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Speaker 1: that she deserved. Well, she was alive, for she was

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Speaker 1: the queen of soul and all of that but I

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Speaker 1: mean she was brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you had that.

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Speaker 5: You we all know about the Motown sound and Berry

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Speaker 5: Gordon and all the incredible acts that they had, But

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Speaker 5: the greatest of all time, especially when it came to

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Speaker 5: female soul singers. She's the one that she's a go to,

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Speaker 5: isn't she.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's the one that when you ask people who

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Speaker 1: influenced her women singers, I will invariably say Aretha Franklin

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Speaker 1: was one of the first.

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Speaker 4: Just some incredible songs.

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Speaker 5: She had a real resurgence, didn't she in the mid eighties,

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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden she was doing Jumping Jack

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Speaker 5: Flash with Keith Richards on guitar.

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Speaker 1: Doing a song with Annie Lennox YEP and one with George.

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Speaker 5: With George Michael for me was a huge hit, and

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Speaker 5: of course the Freeway of Love was a massive hit

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Speaker 5: because that was when that solo album took off and

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Speaker 5: that she became like a big commercial talent and even

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Speaker 5: played the videos on MTV, which was nice to see

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Speaker 5: her to get that kind of attention.

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Speaker 1: I think she stole the Blues Brothers. The one scene

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Speaker 1: in the Blues Brothers. Was incredible.

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Speaker 5: That's what she did, think, wasn't it. The queen has

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Speaker 5: and she was a queen of soul for a reason,

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Speaker 5: because there's been some magnificent singers.

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Speaker 1: Over I love that same little prayer and all that

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Speaker 4: When she did that, it was incredible.

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Speaker 5: The documentary was the concert, the concert video. I've seen

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Speaker 5: a concert video of hers, which is just amazing.

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Speaker 4: There is some concert video.

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Speaker 1: There's some footage from when she was performing in churches

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Speaker 1: and so on.

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Speaker 4: It's on I'm trying to think which streaming service it's on.

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Speaker 4: I can't think. I think it's just cool.

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Speaker 2: It's worth searching around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because as you said, she was that girl who

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Speaker 5: started off singing in the church, and you could still

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Speaker 5: hear that later in life when she was still doing that.

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Speaker 5: A woman who didn't tour as much as she could

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Speaker 5: have because she hated flying. There are out there, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: she had such a few of flying so she would

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Speaker 5: travel domestically around the States a lot, but didn't get

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Speaker 5: to places like Australia in the UK.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually ever straddled a few health problems as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she had I think like arthritis problems and so

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Speaker 1: on that'll stop you traveling around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and she she was one of

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Speaker 5: I think it's sad that she got so many people

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Speaker 5: got robbed of seeing her live so many more times. So,

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Speaker 5: like I said, I never got to see her here

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Speaker 5: in Australia because of that incredible fear of flying. But

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Speaker 5: with a lot of artists who are like that, and

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Speaker 5: so they get around, they're doing the train, they're doing

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Speaker 5: the planes to get around the gigs, or they're on

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Speaker 5: the tour bus.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kate Bush is so she doesn't. She's scared of flying,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we don't see Kate.

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Speaker 2: Bush tournay as much as she could. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Have you favor was scared of flying? Maybe she was

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Speaker 4: scared of flying.

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Speaker 2: She was, she was so scared of flying. She was

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Speaker 2: critical fear. Yeah, yeah, like crippling fear, Yeah, which I

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Speaker 4: Issue to go to them in that case that's coming to.

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Speaker 5: You, Yeah, you'd have to go to go to the

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Speaker 5: States to see her play live. But yeah, just one

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Speaker 5: of those incredible voices. And also, have you got a

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Speaker 5: favorite song that just comes to mind when you think

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Speaker 5: of belief chaina fool Yeah, yeah, that one, I mean,

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Speaker 5: respect is the most famous one, but I have to

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Speaker 5: say I think is one of my Because of the

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Speaker 5: Blues Brothers, it became a better known song for younger fans. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: never forget the point of soul FANSID time

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Speaker 3: Is over ninety six a FM, Clezie and Lisa