1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to fearlessly Failing hot Seat. In this app, I 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. PS. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not so good 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: at the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: awesome answers. Now a new app is going to drop 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Failing hot Seat. Right, oh, hot seed with a familiar 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: voice on fearlessly Failing Hello. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: Full name Matthew Sofo. No middle name, no middle name. 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: No one in my family has middle names. 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Is that an Italian thing? 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Don't know, We're just fuminating middle names. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: I've got one Avery, Avery, which is my mum's last name. Anyway, 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: this is your hot seat boss. So we're having Boss 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Achingo on the hot seat today. So let's start gentle 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: favorite meal. That's not gentle, yes, it is, no way 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: is that a gentle thing. It's going to be like 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: chicken soup. Oh, your mum's chicken soup. 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: Mum's chicken soup. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about something sweet? 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Something sweet? Canoley, lemon, Canoley. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I would agree the lemon is the winner, because I 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: can't have glute and your mum is made in a 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: bowl with strawberries. 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: How nice. Biggest fear, biggest fear. My biggest fear is 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: having fear. 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: So you're you're scared of being scared. Yeah, this is 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: where your anxiety comes from. 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah, yes, I have a fear of fear, So 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: I before I do anything, I'm worried that I'm going 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: to feel fear doing it and that's going to stop me. 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, my biggest fear is fear. A bit philosophical, Yeah, no, 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense. Okay, what about your biggest failure, 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: biggest failure. That's definitely a very complicated one too. Yeah. Look, 35 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: I think there's like been heaps, but I think over 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: time I realize that, Yeah, they are lessons. But probably 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: the biggest failure is maybe, yeah, probably ten years ago 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: right now, like twenty twelve, when when I had my 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: first like big big record, like first breakout record, that 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: I didn't capitalize on that more. How so, I think 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: I thought that it would just kind of all start 42 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: coming to me without really having to, i mean, do more. 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: And I also like made the wrong listened to the 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: wrong people. 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you're only twenty six, it's hard to beer young. 46 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I pretty much listened to the wrong people. 47 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: I put out the wrong records after Like, yeah, I 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: reckon I did everything wrong. Really Yeah, yeah, I think 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: that's probably my biggest failure. I mean, like, I still 50 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: did so much and I'm proud of everything I did then, 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: but I've always been like, fuck, I definitely feel like 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: I did the wrong thing. 53 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Okay, let's change the channel favor animal. Oh, I don't 54 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: know about that, slot slot. I love horses. I've always 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: been obsessed with horses my whole life. They can read 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: your heart. I can read your heart, and I've always 57 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: wanted to own a horse. But maybe we can own 58 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a horse one day. 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: What do you think? 60 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love them. 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: I love them to name it Giuseppe. I'm down Giuseppe 62 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: the horse Giuseppo. 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a favorite song? 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Favorite song? Yeah? Again, very very hard questions. 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: You literally said to me before this. Don't tell me them. 66 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: I want to go in cold. 67 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: Okay. I think favorite song, probably favorite song of all time, 68 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: is a dance song and it's called Finally by Kings 69 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: of Tomorrow. 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Can you give us a little taste? 71 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: No, you know what I've been doing fun in the 72 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: meet you and if I died, then please make that 73 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: my funeral song. 74 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: Was that your funeral song? 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, kings It Tomorrow finally? 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: And then do you know what else he wants me 77 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: to do at his funeral? I have to text everyone 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: in his phone and say thank YOUKS for coming from 79 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: his phone. Yeah, like in Promising Young Woman. 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, King's It Tomorrow Finally written by Sandy 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: Rivera and Julie McKnight. Ok. Yeah, And actually asked Julie 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: McKnight really what the song was about. And the song 83 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: is about dying and meeting God. 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Really you asked that question, yeah, asked her. Yeah, that's 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I met her like maybe ten twelve years 86 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: ago at a party in Melbourne. As one does, Do 87 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you have a favorite composer? No, I have many, top three, 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: top three I think on a classic level, from you know, 89 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: doing things like who you're gonna say John John Williams. 90 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say John Williams on a classic 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: Star Wars, Yeah, Star Wars and Superman and just having 92 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: those like such simple og. Yeah, but the most simple, 93 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: simple riff for you know that? 94 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: And Harry Potter as well. 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then obviously Hans do you love hands? Love Hans? 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: But also yeah, I mean I mean there's I mean 97 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: there's heap small. Okay. 98 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: If you had a spirit animal, it's like a totem 99 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: or a spirit. What would it be? What would you be? 100 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm a jaguar or a lone wolf. Yeah, 101 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: you'd be a wolf, that's for sure. Yeah, can be 102 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: aggressive when I need. 103 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what am I sloth? 104 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: You're much more like gentle? 105 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: You reckon? 106 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what do you reckon? Maybe a 107 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: little koala chlamydia? I don't have never had chlamydia, kalas do. Yeah, 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: it's a massive outbreak, is there? You know that? 109 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: No? Well, kohala besides the chlamydia or a sloth Okay, 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: never had chlamydia. 111 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: So what would you be if you weren't a music 112 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: composer and producer? 113 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: That's a hard question. I think, Yeah, I think I 114 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: would have stayed like finishing a science degree and doing 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: what I did when I first finished school, which was 116 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: their work for a food manufacturing company. 117 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Cool that something in chemistry? Yeah, what's something that's moved 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: you recently? 119 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Moved me recently? 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: You know you've got emotion. 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Jeez, hard questions. 122 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Whilst you get emotional all the time, this should be easy. 123 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I don't know. I probably, Oh, well, 124 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: a bit of a stupid one. 125 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, a meme? Are you gonna say meme? 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: No, it's a new season of Archer. Yeah, and it 127 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: got like the last episode and I think it's the 128 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: last episode ever really. Yeah, and it just it made 129 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: me feel sad that we're going to get to watching you. 130 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: That's a great sign of a TV show. Yeah, isn't 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: that good. It's like thirteen seasons or twelve seasons or 132 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: something like that. Isn't that good. 133 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's just like my go to like 134 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: comfort show that I've watched over and. 135 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: Over and over animation. It's got Chris in it. 136 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: Chris Pinell And but also the lady that plays Mallory 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 2: Arch actually died in real life too, so her voice 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: is a little bit different. 139 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Because it's been replaced. 140 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and I love the name Sterling. Who the 141 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: lead is Sterling Sterling Arch about I think Sterling would 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: be a great girl's name. 143 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, we written baby names now. 144 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Let's see that. God. Okay, coming to the DMS. 145 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: What what's your favorite movie of all time? 146 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: Very very hard. Greece. I was gonna say Greece, you love. 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: I'll say Greece because it is my maybe most watched 148 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: favorite movie, Like growing up. 149 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we were injuring Greg on the 150 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: pod who was one of the co owners of Guya, 151 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and we went his place to record it and there's 152 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: all photos of him and Olivia and you were like 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: a B starstruck. 154 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: One hundred Yeah, but he's like, oh, that's just me, 155 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: John Chivolta, Livy and Bono in a photo. So I'll 156 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: say that because that's probably my most watched movie of 157 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: all time. And then another one is for many many 158 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: different reasons. We bought a. 159 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Zoo Oh the soundtrack. 160 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yonce. I was going to bring up Yonce and 161 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Johann Johanssen, Yeah, as composers as well, but is part 162 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: of Ross. Yeah, he's Ross. 163 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: And Johanno and Hansen writes with what's her name, Hilda 164 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Gudna daughter who did The Joker, and and Chernobyl yeah yeah, 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: and Cigario Andaro he was I think he was like 166 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: the executive composer on Sakario and I think she was 167 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: part of the team, which is what happens. 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we bought a zoo. And I'm going to tell 169 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: another funny one, which is a very obscure movie. I 170 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: don't know. When I was a kid, there was a 171 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: movie it was like Chevy Chase, Martin Short, and Steve 172 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Steve Martin. Yeah, and it was called The Three Amigos, 173 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: And I remember watching it as a kid and thinking 174 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: that this was the funniest movie ever. 175 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. 176 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: It's like it's some weird of skaties. Yeah. Maybe early nineties. 177 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: That's a good era of movies. 178 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I loved all three of them because I 179 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 2: thought they were hilarious. And then as just some movie 180 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: that I've always thought about that it was the free 181 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: and funny one that I watched as a kid. 182 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Do you know that Martin Short co hosted The Circle 183 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: one week and and I got him to eat worms. 184 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've told me that. 185 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Oh cool, cool, cool. What about a book? Do you 186 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: have a favorite book? 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: Favorite book? 188 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: You're not a massive reader, but you do read. 189 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm not a big reader. I think The Alchemist 190 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: is my favorite book of all time. And I think 191 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: that that reading that kind of started to change my 192 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: perspective on everything you know about the journey of life 193 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: and finding what you want and where you're finding it, 194 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: where you started and finding your treasure and all those 195 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: kinds of things. I also read all the Harry Potters 196 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: very quickly, and all back to back. Binge would you bread? Yeah, 197 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: I've read Harry Potter. 198 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Is it better than the movies? I've never read Harry Potter. 199 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: It's just different, it's different. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a 200 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: bit hard to read because like Hermione, like when you're 201 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: reading it, you're like, how do you say that? It's 202 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: like her? Of course, but yeah, it's very very cool. 203 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: I read all the Twilights ahead of the movies, and 204 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: that was a different experience. Yeah, because you haven't seen 205 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson as Edward yet, do you know what I mean? 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: You have in one season and then you're casting him 207 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: in your brain for the rest of them. 208 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. And there's always things in their books that they're 209 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: not in the movies. Totally, of course, yes, yeah, all 210 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: the Harry Potters, Power of Now and totally and yeah 211 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, they're probably those. 212 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: Three very nice. What do you have a favorite movie 213 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: score that's going to be we bought a zoo then. 214 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: Well yeah, either either probably we bought a zoo Yonce 215 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: or Dark Knight returns Hans Hans, but yeah, also Superman 216 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: John Williams like. 217 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: And Hans writes with Christopher Nolan a lot, Like he'll 218 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: write for Christopher Nolan movies. 219 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Right, word, yeah, they work, they work together, heaps. Yeah, 220 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, Inception all that kind of stuff. 221 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: But I think Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises was I 222 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: think everything you did there. 223 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: Was pretty that's Heath right, he was the joker. 224 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good, so good. 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: What advice do you have for like a young creative. 226 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Don't do drugs, don't do drugs, don't get caught up 227 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: in the party. Yeah, definitely did that right. 228 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, don't listen to your friends, don't listen to 229 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: your family, really, don't listen to anyone. 230 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Just do your thing. 231 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Do your own thing. Don't listen to like anyone that 232 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: tries to tell you, don't do it. And if they try, 233 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: if anyone tries to sell your dream, don't take it. 234 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: That's hang on bus Like that's you're giving very dark 235 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: feedback here, Like if a creative works with a manager 236 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: or an agent, they have to believe in the dream 237 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: that they've sold. Even if they outgrow that agent or 238 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: that dream, you still have to you need facilitate a 239 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: creative needs. 240 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like choose your team wisely, but always 241 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: really like follow follow your gut, which is which goes 242 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 2: back to like my biggest mistake and my biggest failures 243 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: of like listening to the wrong people. 244 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: And I've totally done that though when I've gone you know, 245 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: a year with no management and stuff. 246 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: Like that before. Yeah, yeah, I think I think just 247 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: find out what I think, especially with writing or if 248 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: you want to be an artist, like find out what 249 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: you truly are and what you truly want to do. 250 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: And then yeah, you can't go wrong with that favorite color. 251 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: I want to say it's blue, but I tend to 252 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: wear black. 253 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: You wear black and brawn. I wear brown since living here. 254 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's the ethoso. 255 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Earthy tones. But I don't know. Yeah, it's it's probably 256 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: black or blue. Okay, Okay. 257 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: Favorite mood mood melancholy. Well, no, that's how you like 258 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: to write, isn't it. 259 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: Look I learned how to be melancholy and work. It's 260 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: not I wouldn't say it's like my favorite. 261 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Though, But isn't that how you used to write songs? 262 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Always melancholy, but I'm a melancholy person. Favorite mood 263 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: I would want to be happy, but I struggle to 264 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: sit in happy. 265 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: But I think there's an addiction to melanchol in its great. 266 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: I would say, like my favorite mood is just like passion, 267 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: like to be in like a passionate state. 268 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that flow that feels good. Yeah, yeah, I 269 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: fucking love that. I always love like the feeling of 270 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: when you'd start like a gig and you're like ten 271 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes in and the nerves start like wearing off, 272 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: and then you feel like that like rush of endorphins 273 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: and that rush like feeling in your body, and then 274 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: it's just it's like the most incredible like light light feeling, 275 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: you know. Same with any kind of like yeah, I 276 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: suppose creative or anything like that. The first couple of 277 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: minutes you're shit in yourself and then it really starts 278 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: to just flow nicely and feel good. Same when I 279 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: played in like the band, in orchestras, like all that. 280 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, what you do in orchestra, you played? 281 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: I played the trombone in some orchestras, and I played 282 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: the bass guitar and some mothers Orchestra's. 283 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: Final question, favorite instrument, that's a xylophone, ukulele, sylophone. 284 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: The bass guitar is my favorite. What about a harmonica, No, 285 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: not a harmonica, bass guitar, because I always just love like, 286 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: you know, funk, oh yeah, fun, yeah, and disco, which 287 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: is all just like bassline, like funky bass line driven 288 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: if disco. 289 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: If people could look up a song to listen to 290 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: right now, I know you've given you a like funeral song, 291 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: but if people could like listen to a cool song 292 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: right now, just pump punch it into Spotify, what would 293 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: you just be like, this is a fun song. Some 294 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: is on its way, go listen Jesus like and you're 295 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: old whatever. 296 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: Like something. 297 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be too new. It could be old. 298 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: But something is just like a song that you like. 299 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay, oh that's such a hard one. Maybe I'm going 300 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: old disco do it? I think it's God Start the 301 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: Dance by bonhom Okay yeah, no, okay. 302 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Well you can google that one guy so you can 303 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: put in Spotify. 304 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: That's like a fun one. 305 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I always love that perfect all right, big love. Thank 306 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: you for doing Hot Seat. Oh my pleasure, and you've 307 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: got many an episode on feels with failing that people 308 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: can go back to and listen to if they want 309 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: more of your sultry voice. And even Monday's episode you 310 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: were the host. 311 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah I was, wasn't I? Do you think I 312 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: have a sultry voice because I hate my own voice? 313 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Oh, you've got a really nice, dulcity low toned voice. Hello, Yes, 314 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: it's nice Richard Mercer, welcome back. Yeah, I think it's 315 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: a nice voice. 316 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: Thanks, Boss. I think you're a nice You're a nice person. 317 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: Love that he avoids talking about my voice but just 318 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: says I'm a nice person. 319 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: You have a wonderfully beautiful and fun voice and quite unique. 320 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? 321 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely. 322 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: I just think it's now that I've been doing all 323 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: the voice training, it's almost just like it's it sort 324 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: of it feels like a trained voice now because I've 325 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: done so much work on it, you know what I mean. 326 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: No, it's great, and I'm still very usy. Yeah, no American. 327 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: Although you have rolled your RS a few times, No, 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: I haven't you have No, I have one hundred. 329 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: No, I have none about as Australian as it gets 330 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: over there. 331 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: Ye. Anyway, anyway, I love you, Thanks for having me. 332 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: Love you. Thanks doing hot Seat. Next week you're interviewing me. 333 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: Oh birthday episode, can't wait. 334 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're the but the hot Seed as well 335 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: next Wednesday. 336 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: So we're doing next week birthday and then I'm doing 337 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: you hot Seed. 338 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Yes you better get those questions ready. 339 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh jas okay, I love you. Bye way