WEBVTT - A REAR IN YOUR VIEW. That's a wrap 2021!  🎉

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to a litle bonus episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Well is it a bonus?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a year in review.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing like a little sum up, a little rear

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<v Speaker 1>in your view.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I just went to say, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 4>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Rear in your view, a little view of my rear.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's anything that describes the year, that is it

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<v Speaker 1>a rear in your view.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I.

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<v Speaker 5>Literally just said.

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<v Speaker 4>Britt has completely checked out, she's not even here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing a year in reviewer.

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<v Speaker 1>We just thought we would take a little look back

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty twenty one, some of our favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>Moments, some of your favorite moments, some of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit that went down, some of the memorable things, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that we thought we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>immortalize here forever. I think we've spoken so much about

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<v Speaker 1>how I've said it, and I kind of take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said that twenty twenty one was a dumpster fire

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<v Speaker 1>of a year, and I think for so many of

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<v Speaker 1>us there were some very challenging parts of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I sat back and listened to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and listened to so many of the episodes that we

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<v Speaker 1>have covered, I also have loved so much of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we can often in life choose to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the negative, or we can choose to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the positive and the way that we perceive what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on around us, our reaction to situations can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>form our own personal feelings towards it, and looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Gosh, we've had such a It's been

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge privilege to interview some of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we've interviewed. It's been such a huge privilege to

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<v Speaker 1>engage with so many of you from the community, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we wanted to put together this little episode a

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<v Speaker 1>highlight real looking back on our favorite interviews, our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>moments in time, so we can walk down memory lane

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<v Speaker 1>together twenty twenty one hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing that did happen in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>That I think we can look positively on is we

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<v Speaker 1>welcomed producer Keyshirt to the team.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to think of that as a positive.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura, do you it's really been a highlight.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say that it is my suite.

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<v Speaker 1>Of twenty twenty one, But we actually are going to

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<v Speaker 1>trust her a little bit more than ever here and

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to take over this episode, she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go through some of the highlights this year, You guys

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<v Speaker 1>have had nothing but praise and love for Keisha, much

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<v Speaker 1>like us, so we are so stoked be taking Keisha

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<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty two as well. And also we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that we hope that you guys had

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible Christmas. We hope that you have a cracking

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<v Speaker 1>New Year, and we'll be seeing you red hot and

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<v Speaker 1>ready back in twenty twenty two. Well, actually we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you with a few bonus episodes before then, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>we back and in twenty twenty two, we're giving you

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<v Speaker 1>an extra episode a week. Now. Don't say we are

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<v Speaker 1>not good to you, but that is in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of our radio show. So we do have a radio

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<v Speaker 1>show coming every Saturday ten to twelve. We expect you

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<v Speaker 1>to tune in because we're going to really need those

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<v Speaker 1>ratings coming out of the gate, so that would be great.

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<v Speaker 6>Please just go.

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<v Speaker 1>And sit in your car, even if you're not actually

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<v Speaker 1>in your car. Just run your car, turn the radio on,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen Striving on your laptop.

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<v Speaker 2>I do do it on an app. Put on an app.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, get everyone you know to sit in their car.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn the car on, get your apps, everyone tuning just

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<v Speaker 1>for the start, otherwise they might come down on its heart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's only one other female led radio show in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. It's Umi Steins and Kate Longbrook, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the three pm pickup.

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<v Speaker 5>And they're against the big guns.

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<v Speaker 2>The big Guns.

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<v Speaker 5>They're great.

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<v Speaker 1>Have been so incredibly fortunate to be given an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to be the second female led radio show, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why we need you, guys to listen on every fucking

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<v Speaker 1>device you have. Anyway, that episode from the radio will

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<v Speaker 1>drop into the feed so you can listen to it

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<v Speaker 1>at a later date, but we prefer to listen in

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<v Speaker 1>real time.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We will hand you over to produce Akisha to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little walk down memory lane. We hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you love this as much as we did creating it.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't wait to see you in twenty twenty two. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>life is it's Keisha here.

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<v Speaker 3>What an absolute pleasure it is to be hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>with you and looking back on the year that was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one and thinking about all the highs and

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<v Speaker 3>the lows.

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<v Speaker 2>They're definitely worse and sucks. Maybe this is something we could.

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<v Speaker 3>Do actually I thine we should start a thread in

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<v Speaker 3>the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>Hashtag, don't worry, it's also not a photoshot request. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you should start a bit of a thread of our

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<v Speaker 3>suck and our suite of the year. I think for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people myself included, Suck of the year

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<v Speaker 3>would have to be lockdowns, and my suite of the

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<v Speaker 3>year was for sure joining the Life Uncut family.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>I get to hang out with my two bosses who

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<v Speaker 3>feel more like sisters now every day of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have absolutely loved making this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The best things I've ever gotten to do in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's jump into it. The very first person that

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<v Speaker 3>we are flashing back to is someone who has written

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<v Speaker 3>a book or two in their time, sold fourteen million

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<v Speaker 3>copies if I'm being more specific, it is Mark Manson,

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<v Speaker 3>who is the author of The Subtle Art of Not

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<v Speaker 3>Giving a Fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. What I love about Mark Manson.

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<v Speaker 3>Is his no bullshit kind of attitude to life.

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<v Speaker 2>I really really enjoyed this chat.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved what he had to say. So let's jump

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<v Speaker 3>into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Puck for anybody who hasn't read The Subtle Art of

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<v Speaker 1>Not Giving a fuck? Can you give us a quick

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<v Speaker 1>sort of run down on what is the philosophy of

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<v Speaker 1>not giving a fuck? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 7>The subtle are not giving a fuck? It's a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of a trick, you know. It kind of it

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<v Speaker 7>lures people in by by making this promise of like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>all your stress and anxiety, like you can just not

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<v Speaker 7>give a fuck anymore. But what the book quickly kind

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<v Speaker 7>of flips on you is the point that we all

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<v Speaker 7>have to care about something. You have to give a

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<v Speaker 7>fuck about something, and whether you realize it or not,

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<v Speaker 7>you're always choosing what you're giving a fuck about. You're

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<v Speaker 7>always choosing what you care about. And I think that

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<v Speaker 7>realization of that, that constant process of choice is an

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<v Speaker 7>extremely profound one because it calls in the question a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of things all across our life, you know, like

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<v Speaker 7>if you're not happy, why aren't you happy? Like why

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<v Speaker 7>are you not choosing the things that will make you happy?

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<v Speaker 7>If you feel like a failure, why are you not

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<v Speaker 7>choosing the things that will make you feel like more

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<v Speaker 7>of a success. And so it's kind of this, Uh,

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<v Speaker 7>it's strangely a book kind of about radical responsibility, but

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<v Speaker 7>it's also about you know, I wanted to write a

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<v Speaker 7>book that was very much against kind of all the

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<v Speaker 7>traditional cliche, positive thinking type of stuff. Life is full

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<v Speaker 7>of suffering and hardship, and that's fine, Like it's there's

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<v Speaker 7>no way to avoid that. It's actually the suffering and

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<v Speaker 7>hardship that makes life feel meaningful. No matter what you do,

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to fail. Every relationship you have is going

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<v Speaker 7>to hurt you at some point it. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 7>the cost of having close intimate relationships. So there's there's

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<v Speaker 7>literally nothing good in our life that doesn't have some

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<v Speaker 7>sort of like negative association with it, and so a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of the book is aimed at helping people learn

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<v Speaker 7>to accept that instead of try to run away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things why you sort of said, like

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<v Speaker 1>the question isn't why do you care about things that

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<v Speaker 1>are trivial, but why don't you have more important things

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<v Speaker 1>in your life to care about? Like you've got everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>got the same amount of bucks to give, So why

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<v Speaker 1>are you giving yours to such small, insignificant inconveniences is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a reflection that you don't have anything big and

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<v Speaker 1>important happening in your life, and that's the real problem.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, it's probably the most common

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<v Speaker 7>question I get from people, especially people who read that book,

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<v Speaker 7>is how do I stop giving a fuck what people

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<v Speaker 7>think about me? And my response is, you can't. You

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<v Speaker 7>have to care what people like. It's good you care

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<v Speaker 7>what people think about you. You know, we have a

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<v Speaker 7>name for people who don't care what people think. It's

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<v Speaker 7>called the psychopath. You should care what your mother thinks,

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<v Speaker 7>you should care what your friends think, you should care

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<v Speaker 7>what your coworkers think. The problem is not caring what

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<v Speaker 7>people think. The problem is that you don't have anything

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<v Speaker 7>more important in your life than what people think. That's

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<v Speaker 7>what's missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, I just want Mark Manson. He's so incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>He also has a really good website if you are

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<v Speaker 3>the type of person who likes reading articles. I tend

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<v Speaker 3>to find myself on his website quite a lot. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a little something for you to do over the holidays.

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<v Speaker 3>If you really enjoyed that chat with Mark Manson. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up next in a Year in Review, This is one

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<v Speaker 3>of our favorite segments of the podcast. It definitely provides

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<v Speaker 3>the most laughs. It's called accidentally unfiltered and it's where

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<v Speaker 3>you write in your most embarrassing stories. And we did

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<v Speaker 3>an entire bonus episode of your Dating Accidentally Unfiltered, and

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<v Speaker 3>the episode was called we Don't Fuck on Weeknights.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>We did the call out for you to send us

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<v Speaker 1>your most embarrassing accidentally unfiltered dating stories and we will

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<v Speaker 1>get into them in a second. But one of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna keep you anonymous because I you know we.

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<v Speaker 6>Do that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're all anonymous, You're always anonymous. No one needs to

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<v Speaker 1>know this. However, one of you, you're a fucking rock star.

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<v Speaker 1>You sent us a synopsis instead of sending us one

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally unfiltered story. You just went through your whole dating list.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna read this out because this just had

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<v Speaker 1>me in hysterics. And I also think this really encapsulates.

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<v Speaker 6>Dating in the modern day.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think you're having a rough time in alone,

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<v Speaker 1>Todd couldn't get it up and sent me fake flowers

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Andrew g Andrew g shocking sleep apnear and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to sleep in another room Jane's. He got

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<v Speaker 1>locked out of his house and I had to break

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<v Speaker 1>in him as koona guy caught a blue tongue lizard

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<v Speaker 1>and played with it for ages. Tim Age rocked out

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<v Speaker 1>to first date of Vaga and Coke. Turns out he

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<v Speaker 1>was married Tim Mel. He could only come when I

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<v Speaker 1>told him I wanted him to come in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>Where does this girl get these days? Josh won't fuck

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<v Speaker 4>on weekdays?

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many more that I was like the first five, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel for you, but I also I can relate things.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things. Did he bring the blue tongue lizard or

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<v Speaker 1>did he catch the blue tongue lizard on the day?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he like they maybe they went for a

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<v Speaker 1>bushwalk and he caught a blue tongue lizard and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, well, this is more interesting than date

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<v Speaker 1>played with the day. Who doesn't fuck on weekdays?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that like a superstitious thing?

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<v Speaker 1>This could be like a new motel don't fuck on weekdays?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I was thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>As you're reading that, I was like, I could write

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<v Speaker 1>one of those, I men, it would be so long.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I think I only have sex on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night. That's when the kids are in bed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's because it's a rule. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you just exhaust it and like that's the day

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<v Speaker 1>of the week you get to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Fuck, where do I start?

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<v Speaker 4>That's literally this girl, Where do I start.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well known for liking my older men, the silver foxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm also by. Anyhow, there's this guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>got set up with on a blind date from a workmate.

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<v Speaker 1>I've dated two people in the last eight years, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can imagine how nervous I was. I reluctantly go

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<v Speaker 1>on this date and this guy, Oh, my fucking god,

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<v Speaker 1>he was sexy as fuck.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of fucks in this It's like I

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<v Speaker 5>thought they saw a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like instantly I got the fanny flutters ladies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind fox. We started getting to know each other

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<v Speaker 1>and we go on a couple of days. We had

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<v Speaker 1>that big oh several times every time we hooked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking with sex is mind blowing, incredible. This is

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<v Speaker 1>why I like older men. The floodgates were definitely opened.

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<v Speaker 5>Eventually, I tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm by and that I've had threesomes in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends now, I am very open with telling them

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<v Speaker 1>what I get up to. I tell them very intimate

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<v Speaker 1>details of this guy, and they are hyping me up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just loving it. They were like, yes, get

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<v Speaker 1>a girl fucking hard. Have those all chasms? They were

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<v Speaker 1>asking me every single detail. Everybody needs a woo girl

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<v Speaker 1>in their corner. Everyone needs a sex wo girl. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>we were at his house getting very very saucy.

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<v Speaker 5>We didn't hear anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming side, so we kept going. When we finally realized

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<v Speaker 1>someone was there, we stopped. We went to check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>To my absolute horror, one of my mates was in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 6>I was so confused.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, girl, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 5>But she just looked at me like a ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when the old silver Fox came out with a

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<v Speaker 1>towel around him. Oh shit, I'm really sorry. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter was crashing here.

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<v Speaker 5>This is hello.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I realized that's been my friend and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized simultaneously that she's been hyping me up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck her dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Ummy, is that you? How do you ever recover from that?

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<v Speaker 4>I had like, where does your friendship go?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens? She was hyping me up?

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<v Speaker 1>And I had just thought that the day before I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling her how good he was going down on me.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't see him.

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<v Speaker 1>After that because it was all And she's still funny

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<v Speaker 1>with me sometimes, but hey, he was amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, could.

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<v Speaker 1>You imagine that moment daddy's in the towel you were

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, that she has just heard you having sex,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's bad for everyone. The friend's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's pounding someone. Then it realizes they've pounding your friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you realize you've said how good your daddy's are

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<v Speaker 1>going down, and you to your friend.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like the most awkward triangle I have ever

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<v Speaker 1>come across. Well, I imagine if they stayed here and

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<v Speaker 1>then they got married and then she became a stepmom.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey mama, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, I have one for you. Guys, try to

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<v Speaker 1>keep this short and sweet. I went on this Tinder

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<v Speaker 1>date with a guy and we decided to meet in

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<v Speaker 1>the city. I drove he caught an uber, thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a big night. Guess that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first red flag. I decided to have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of drinks and we ended up playing pool and having

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good time. Anyways, it was late and I

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<v Speaker 1>decided I wanted to head home. He walked me to

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<v Speaker 1>my car and awkwardly waited there. Me being me, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help myself and I offered him a drive home.

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<v Speaker 6>He lived forty minutes in the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 5>That was very kind of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we hopped in the car and I was driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm cringing already that this happened to

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<v Speaker 1>kiss my neck as I was looking dead into the window.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he proceeds to whisper into my ear, I

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<v Speaker 1>just love your titty witties, clearly thinking this.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a turn on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm still scared to this day. I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up pulling up to his house and I told

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<v Speaker 1>him to get out. He then turns to me and says,

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<v Speaker 1>come inside and play some battleships with me in a

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<v Speaker 1>sexy voice. I could not believe what was happening. Cleard

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<v Speaker 1>did not get the picture. I still have secondhand embarrassment

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<v Speaker 1>for him this day. Okay, shout out to any men listening,

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<v Speaker 1>please never refer to them. It's titty wittyes, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get you anyway. I once had a guy

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<v Speaker 1>on a first date say to me, you're so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>I think he was pretty drunk, but I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>He literally sounds like this, You're so beautiful, I'd slay

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<v Speaker 1>a dragon for you.

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<v Speaker 4>And then stared at me really blankly. Then I still

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<v Speaker 4>had sex with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you fuck of course you did. You're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so are you giving me attention? Oh my god, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going They're in love, We're gonna have children.

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<v Speaker 5>You had be a dragon.

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<v Speaker 1>The last date I went on before Jordan told me

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<v Speaker 1>I slept with him too. He told me that I

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<v Speaker 1>had a really masculine energy and that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>boy in my boy thinks I was a man in

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<v Speaker 1>my past life. I don't remember you telling me this,

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said you had strong legs.

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<v Speaker 2>I still hooked up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brittany and Laura just reinforcing bad behavior since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I've got one. Okay, this one's pretty cooked.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a third date and we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>go camping for a night not too far away.

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<v Speaker 2>This is cute, I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I pictured toasting marshmallows over a fire under the stars

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<v Speaker 1>and making love outside. I've watched too many movies. Obviously. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>it rained, so all that went out the window. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to bed in our separate sleeping bags, which at

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<v Speaker 1>first I thought was a little off. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>would just be super cute and snuggle all night. This

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<v Speaker 1>thought process soon changed drastically. In the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up feeling really uncomfortable. I have ibsu see,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt a pain in my tummy, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, ooh, I probably need to go to the toilets.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I felt something wet in my pants, thinking oh, great,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have my period too. I reached into check,

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to be sure.

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<v Speaker 2>That it was my period.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this sounds gross, but I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get up in the cold and wet if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually need to. I touched it and pulled my hand out,

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<v Speaker 1>only to discover I had shit in my sleep, in

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<v Speaker 1>my undies and in my sleeping bag. My date was

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<v Speaker 1>literally lying next to me, and I was a ship burrito.

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<v Speaker 1>We shit on one hand. I tried to frantically escape

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<v Speaker 1>my sleeping bag with only one good hand and find

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<v Speaker 1>my way out of the tent. I made it out

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<v Speaker 1>and ran through the rain to the toilet. So now

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<v Speaker 1>I was a soaking, wet ship burrito. I cleaned myself up,

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<v Speaker 1>threw my undies out and tried to sneak back in,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking out I escaped successfully. In the morning when we

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<v Speaker 1>woke up, my date said, oh my god, all I

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<v Speaker 1>could smell was shit all night.

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<v Speaker 5>The baby next door must have been eating a dead animal.

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<v Speaker 2>Haha.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ashamed to say I blamed the baby. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>dating for eighteen months that I can't bring myself to

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<v Speaker 1>tell him. Maybe one day after I've locked him down

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<v Speaker 1>and married him, I'll tell him. I shat my pants

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<v Speaker 1>when I said date. That's so uncomfortable. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to think of embarrassing things that I've done

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<v Speaker 1>on a date, and the only thing I could think of, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually it's a lie. The only thing I could

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<v Speaker 1>think of that I hadn't shared with you guys yet.

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<v Speaker 6>So this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've been a O Dear listener, you will remember

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<v Speaker 1>I told you the story about a guy I dated

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<v Speaker 1>for like a year.

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<v Speaker 6>We were in a situation ship.

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<v Speaker 1>He never ever actually wanted to confirm to be my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Surprising why Yeah, sure, he was dating five other people.

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just because I was such a

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<v Speaker 1>hot mess of a person at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>So at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, like I went through this period. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>IBS because I had all the tests done. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was something wrong with me. Okay, shatt, there was something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with me. I don't know what it was. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd gone over to his house for a date. We'd

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<v Speaker 1>only been dating for a couple of weeks and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very casual at this point in time, and he

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<v Speaker 1>lived in a tiny one bedroom studio where the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>was in the bedroom, so like the bathroom there's no escaping,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the lounge where the TV is was directly

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<v Speaker 1>outside the bedroom was this time a little contained apartment. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we were sitting there watching a movie and he cooked dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a chef, and I could feel my stomach

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<v Speaker 1>just doing backlits, and I was like, oh God.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh god, God, play for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I was like, I'm so sorry, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the toilet, go to the bathroom. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>unleash the fury.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have music on? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I turned the tap one to try and like mask

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, so unleash the Fury.

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<v Speaker 6>The fucking window wouldn't open.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh my, oh my, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be kidding me, So I just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you put some hands soap around, like trying to like

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<v Speaker 1>fan it around. Anyway, nothing helped, and then I left,

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<v Speaker 1>like I shut the bathroom door, I shut the bedroom door.

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<v Speaker 1>I opened the bedroom window just in case. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I came back into the little loundroom area, which was

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<v Speaker 1>like attached to the bedroom, and I sit down next

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<v Speaker 1>to him and we keep watching the movie and like

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone for twenty five minutes, like I knows

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. You're obviously doing a shit and

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<v Speaker 1>he would have heard it because I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, never go back in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to renovate please.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, don't like imagine anyway, we're sitting there watching the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't say anything to me. Ten minutes later, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of fucking winter, right. Ten minutes later, he

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<v Speaker 1>just gets up and opens the balcony door, saddle fred subtle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I need to go home. Anyway, that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out he never wanted to date me.

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<v Speaker 6>It was so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that segment encapsulates what dating in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, am I right next up for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Year in review is what I considered to be one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most powerful interviews of life uncut. Laura and

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<v Speaker 3>Britt had the pleasure of sitting down with India Oxenburg,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a part of the Nexium sex cult for

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<v Speaker 3>seven years. This sex cult was run by a guy

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<v Speaker 3>named Keith Ranieri, and he manipulated people for twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>under the guise of self improvement workshops and seminars, and

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<v Speaker 3>he even recruited some people like Smallville actress Alison Mack.

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<v Speaker 3>They formed a separate kind of subcult of Nexium called

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<v Speaker 3>DOSS And this is India's story. Now, just to heads

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<v Speaker 3>up before we get into this segment, we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be speaking about sexual assaults and coesive control. So

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<v Speaker 3>if that's a little bit troubling you please give ahead

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<v Speaker 3>about four and a half minutes and you can always

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<v Speaker 3>call one eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 8>Respect Well, there's what DOS was, and there was what

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<v Speaker 8>we were told DOS was, and those were two entirely

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<v Speaker 8>different things.

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<v Speaker 9>So what DOS was was a.

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<v Speaker 8>Recruiting mechanism for Keith to enslave and use women for

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<v Speaker 8>his own benefit, whatever it was financially, sexually, for power, whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>That's really the basis of what DOS was what we

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<v Speaker 8>believe DOS was was a women's empowerment group that was

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<v Speaker 8>going to be one on one coaching and that was

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<v Speaker 8>going to help us grow and become stronger empowered women,

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<v Speaker 8>using a sort of sisterhood to achieve that, and that

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<v Speaker 8>it was going to be a secret because there were

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<v Speaker 8>going to be things that we were going to do

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<v Speaker 8>that was uncomfortable and kind of fringe that I was

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<v Speaker 8>okay with because I was open to it, but I

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<v Speaker 8>was also riding on the tail of five years of

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<v Speaker 8>grooming to get me to that place of saying yes

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<v Speaker 8>to something so vague and so nefarious. Ultimately, I never

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<v Speaker 8>knew anything about the details of the brand.

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<v Speaker 9>When I was recruited.

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<v Speaker 8>I was told that there would be a brand or

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<v Speaker 8>a tattoo, and that it would be small, and I

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<v Speaker 8>was okay with that.

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<v Speaker 9>I have a couple tattoos myself.

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<v Speaker 8>There were so many things that were concealed from us

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<v Speaker 8>in the recruiting process that it was difficult to actually

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<v Speaker 8>make an informed decision, And we were also made to

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<v Speaker 8>give collateral in order to receive more information about the

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<v Speaker 8>secret group. So you're already compromised before you've said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important for us to highlight that if

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't watched it yet, we do mention the name

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Mac a few times.

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<v Speaker 5>Mac was an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Mack was an actress, someone that I watched growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in Smallville. I knew her, I loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess she was this person that introduced you

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<v Speaker 1>to this secret society DOS and she was your master.

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<v Speaker 1>She was under Keith Ranieri. She was ultimately the one

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<v Speaker 1>that was grooming you and putting these restrictions on you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess did you ever hold any resentment towards

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Mack or did you just see her as a

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<v Speaker 1>loving guiding friend, like a mother figure, someone that looked

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<v Speaker 1>after you, or was there a part of you that

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why are you doing this to me?

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<v Speaker 9>But at both.

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<v Speaker 8>I was definitely afraid of her punishment and her disapproval.

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<v Speaker 8>And because I'm an EmPATH, that really was an easy

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<v Speaker 8>way to manipulate me. Like her being upset or unhappy

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<v Speaker 8>was terrifying to me because I was in this in

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<v Speaker 8>the Doss construct, her slave. She was my master. She

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<v Speaker 8>was ultimately in charge and in control of anything that

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<v Speaker 8>I could do. I didn't understand the gravity of that

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<v Speaker 8>until later on, But there were moments where I thought

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<v Speaker 8>she was my friend. It was not a natural relationship.

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<v Speaker 8>We were forced while I was forced to live with her,

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<v Speaker 8>and then from there I became her friend, but really

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<v Speaker 8>out of necessity. There were things that we bonded over.

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<v Speaker 8>But I look at it now and I have a

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<v Speaker 8>lot less judgment for myself because I was surviving that

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<v Speaker 8>and I was trying to make the best of an

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<v Speaker 8>unpleasant situation and trying to cherry pick and make, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Make those even more better than they really were. I

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<v Speaker 9>was really trying to make it better than it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did things change for you once you had

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<v Speaker 1>joined DAWs.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I felt like I had just been given this

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<v Speaker 8>amazing secret, and I admired Allison because she was excelling

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<v Speaker 8>so quickly within next and I was kind of stagnant.

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<v Speaker 9>I wasn't moving as a coach.

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<v Speaker 8>So once I joined DAS, I started to see things

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<v Speaker 8>change in my life.

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<v Speaker 9>And I thought that it was because of DS.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't realize that it was pretty much arbitrary and

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<v Speaker 8>that it was being decided by Keith and Allison was just.

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<v Speaker 9>The one, you know, doing the orders to me from him.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't really understand the connection early on, but I

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<v Speaker 8>thought that I was growing and I thought that I

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<v Speaker 8>was improving, and I actually believed that it was because

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<v Speaker 8>of DOS so was it was hard to make the distinction.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one of our favorite moments from twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>comes from the vibrant and vivacious M Carrie. And Carrie

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<v Speaker 3>is the girl who fell from the sky at twenty

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<v Speaker 3>years old. She was skydiving in Switzerland on what was

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<v Speaker 3>meant to be an adventure of a lifetime, and her

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<v Speaker 3>parachute child and it left her paralyzed from the waist

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<v Speaker 3>down where she was told she probably wouldn't ever walk again.

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<v Speaker 3>This chat with EM it really shaped the way that

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<v Speaker 3>I viewed my body. You know, I think all of

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<v Speaker 3>us at some point in time would have struggled with

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<v Speaker 3>a part of body image or maybe not liking a

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<v Speaker 3>particular part of ourselves. And after listening to EM's chat,

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt so damn grateful for everything that I

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<v Speaker 3>have and for what my body could do for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the chat with M Kerry.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a chance you're not going to walk again? What's

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<v Speaker 6>that like?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, they didn't even say there's a chance. They were

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<v Speaker 10>just matter of fact, like, no, this is permanent, this

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<v Speaker 10>is how it's going. And it was tricky because they

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<v Speaker 10>the doctors could speak English, but we definitely weren't having

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<v Speaker 10>affluent conversation, and it was harder to understand exactly what

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<v Speaker 10>was happening. But yeah, when they said you'll never walk again,

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<v Speaker 10>I just couldn't wrap my head around that because of

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<v Speaker 10>just yeah, because of how fast things changed and how

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<v Speaker 10>fast it went from a fun holiday to the worst

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<v Speaker 10>thing I'd ever been through. I just couldn't wrap my

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<v Speaker 10>head around that. And I didn't believe it. And I

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<v Speaker 10>don't say that in a way it's like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 10>never believed I could walk again, which is why I

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<v Speaker 10>can walk again. I just mean I literally couldn't wrap

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<v Speaker 10>my head around the fact that I would never get

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<v Speaker 10>back on my feet and walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you angry?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you feel resentful?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? I mean, I guess when you're in in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation like that, it could be so not that it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing about that situation is easy, And I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>put myself into your position to really understand what that

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<v Speaker 1>would feel like. But I can only imagine there would

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of you that's really fucking angry at

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<v Speaker 1>the instructor or at the system that something had gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 10>Weirdly, no, I mean I've felt anger, but only maybe

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<v Speaker 10>in the past two years that all came up for me.

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<v Speaker 10>But in the beginning, I never I'm not sure why,

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<v Speaker 10>but I never had that mentality of like, why me.

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<v Speaker 10>I just kind of thought, why not me? Like I

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<v Speaker 10>chose this gud. I've that was a risk fair enough,

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<v Speaker 10>so I.

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<v Speaker 11>Didn't feel angry.

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<v Speaker 10>I more so felt like the instructor was also so

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<v Speaker 10>badly injured, and he, I imagined, would have felt so

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<v Speaker 10>much regret and so deeply apologetic for what he had

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<v Speaker 10>done that I thought that that's enough.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't need to be angry as well.

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<v Speaker 10>So no, I molso just hoped that he was okay,

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<v Speaker 10>and I felt really bonded to him, weirdly, thinking that

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 10>we'd both gone through this thing that no one else

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<v Speaker 10>would ever, you know, experience like every element of what

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<v Speaker 10>I knew obviously couldn't work anymore.

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<v Speaker 11>I couldn't do the.

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<v Speaker 10>Hobbies that I loved, So I felt like every aspect

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<v Speaker 10>of who I was was taken away.

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<v Speaker 11>So I thought, who, like who am I?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess going through a breakup when you know

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<v Speaker 1>you go through something like this and you think the

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<v Speaker 1>people who love you and around you're going to support you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then being thrust into and I know that the

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<v Speaker 1>breakup shouldn't be the thing to hone in on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's a part of that that must

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<v Speaker 1>leave you feeling like, well, now I'm fucking unlovable as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then having to deal with like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have this disability and the person who I thought

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be with me it came with caveats. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be with me anymore because of this.

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<v Speaker 10>It's what I was in hospital in Australia, so it

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<v Speaker 10>would have been within three months, maybe two months later,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not sure, but while I was.

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<v Speaker 11>In hospital, but yeah, I did feel that.

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<v Speaker 10>And being so young as well, he was my first

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<v Speaker 10>serious boyfriend, so I didn't have Yeah, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 10>anything else.

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<v Speaker 11>To compare it to.

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<v Speaker 10>And I thought, oh, if he's not gonna let me

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<v Speaker 10>through this, and he knows me well, like who will

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 10>When I really put in effort to healing emotionally and

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<v Speaker 10>thinking I'm going to make life good regardless of what

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 10>the outcome is with me physically, I just started to

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 10>just notice things that I hadn't before. Like this sounds

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<v Speaker 10>really dumb, but I don't think I ever realized that

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<v Speaker 10>the sunset every single day and that I could choose

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 10>to go outside and watch it like I I had

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 10>just never thought about that before. And I think what

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<v Speaker 10>really helped me, even though it was hard to go

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<v Speaker 10>through at the time, was the fact that I was

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<v Speaker 10>awake for the fall and that I have full memory

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<v Speaker 10>of that, and I have full memory of me thinking

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<v Speaker 10>I had ten seconds left to live. So going from

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<v Speaker 10>ten seconds left to live to realizing I have the

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<v Speaker 10>rest of my life, it just gave me such an

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<v Speaker 10>appreciation and such a different perspective to look at life through.

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<v Speaker 10>When I thought about that and I thought about how

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<v Speaker 10>lucky I am, I was like, yeah, like, there's still

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<v Speaker 10>a lot to be grateful for here.

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<v Speaker 11>So I switched the perspective.

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<v Speaker 10>From whatever I lost, like what, Yeah, I've lost my legs,

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 10>I've lost my boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 11>I stopped thinking about that and instead thought, what have

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<v Speaker 11>I still got?

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<v Speaker 10>And I realized I still have the use of my arms,

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 10>I still have my brain, I still have my mind,

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 10>I still have my family. And then I even started

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.959
<v Speaker 10>wondering like, Okay, is there anything I've actually gained from this?

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 10>And at first I thought, no, of course not, there's

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 10>nothing good that's come from this. But when I really

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 10>thought about it, I realized I'd gained heaps, Like I'd

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 10>gained so much strength that I never knew I had.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 10>I'd gained appreciation for my body, which I never took

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 10>the time to think about. And I'd gained the knowledge

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 10>that I survived something unsurvivable. This is maybe like a

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 10>harsh truth, but so here's what I don't know. See

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 10>for me, since my accident, I have not at all

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 10>had any body self conscious issues like I like, I

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 10>think I look great, love that. No, But let me

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 10>tell you why. Because when I was in hospital, No,

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<v Speaker 10>when I was on the ground after the accident and

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<v Speaker 10>my leg weren't working. Before my accident, I was only twenty,

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<v Speaker 10>but I was super fit, loved the gym, love to

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<v Speaker 10>go running, so I had quite muscly legs, and I

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 10>remember pre accident being like, oh, I wish my legs

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<v Speaker 10>weren't so mustly. Whereas when I was laying there on

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<v Speaker 10>the ground and my legs weren't working, I was like,

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 10>I couldn't give a fuck what my legs looked like.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 10>I would take any legs regardless of what they looked like,

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<v Speaker 10>as long as they worked. Like all I wanted was

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 10>a body part that worked. So from that moment, any

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 10>time I did have an insecurity on my body, I

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 10>would straight away and be like, okay, but what does

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 10>that body part do for me?

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<v Speaker 11>And I would change.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 10>I would like flick the switch from just instead of

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<v Speaker 10>looking at my body as an object to looking at

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 10>it as like the vessel.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 11>That lets me experience life.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.239
<v Speaker 10>So like if you don't like your eye color, think

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<v Speaker 10>of what it enables you.

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<v Speaker 11>To see, you know what I mean.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 10>It's just changing the perspective of what your body can

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<v Speaker 10>do and realizing that the way it looks is the

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<v Speaker 10>most like irrelevant part about any of it. And it's

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<v Speaker 10>like you would never walk into a spinal ward and

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 10>complain about the way that your legs look, or you

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 10>would never go up to a quadriplegic who can't even

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 10>move their hand and complain about a part of your body,

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 10>or you never go into a burned unit and complain

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 10>about your skin, you know what I mean.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 11>So it's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>I just gave me this confidence not to think like, oh,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm the hottest person in the world, but just more

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<v Speaker 10>so that it doesn't matter, Like it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 10>I look like, so I don't put a focus on it.

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<v Speaker 11>It doesn't even cross my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, she is so right. Em Care is just such

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<v Speaker 3>a ray of sunshine. I absolutely loved that chat with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Next up in our Year in Review. How could we

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<v Speaker 3>possibly even contemplate doing a year in review without doing

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<v Speaker 3>a big old shout out to our guy Maddie Jay

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<v Speaker 3>for the Batch Uncut episodes that him and Laura did.

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<v Speaker 3>Now to bring you behind the scenes a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>for these ones. Man, they worked so damn hard on

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<v Speaker 3>these episodes. They were often up I'm talking like early

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<v Speaker 3>hours of the morning, late recording these and editing them

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 3>so that you could have them in your libraries on

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Friday mornings.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be a little biased. I think significantly funnier

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<v Speaker 2>than the show. I don't know, you could be the

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<v Speaker 2>judge of that.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one of my favorite episodes of Batch on Cut,

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<v Speaker 3>featuring the one only Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>J episode number eleven, Let's just jump straight to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot and ready and sexy and can't wait to get unpacking.

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<v Speaker 12>And The budget restraints continue here on The Bachelor, because

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<v Speaker 12>on this episode we're going camping.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice that they've kind of pitched this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to know if the girls are outdoorsy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they liked, you know, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Get one with nature and get out there and get

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<v Speaker 4>amongst it.

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<v Speaker 1>But really it was the arts department being like, fuck, hell, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot work under these restrictions. What have we got

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>left alson tar poland and a couple of blow up mattresses.

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<v Speaker 1>The goal camping, Get the jackals ready, I'll do us

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<v Speaker 1>for a full episode.

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<v Speaker 12>No one's gotta notice.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it was literally a full episode of camping.

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<v Speaker 12>My school camp had more budget than this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know, like normally every episode it changes locations.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 4>Like you'll have a day that'll be on a yacht.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you'll have it at the Batch mansion, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll have a group date that's somewhere else entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>like even just the traveling to and from dates costs money.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't have to travel.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally just went pitched a tent and stayed there

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<v Speaker 1>for the duration of an entire episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like angry for Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 12>One of the scenes you can see the Batch mansion

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<v Speaker 12>in the background.

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<v Speaker 6>They're in the paddock.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not really.

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<v Speaker 12>You can see Asher sitting there in the driveway of

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<v Speaker 12>the Batch mansions.

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<v Speaker 6>Smoking a cigarette. He's like one of these idiots.

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<v Speaker 5>Make them dance.

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<v Speaker 1>When Jay and Jimmy are coming back to the cocktail party,

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming back to the bonfire.

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<v Speaker 6>The bush Dove.

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<v Speaker 12>Is DJing, the glow sticks around, it's all kicking off.

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<v Speaker 2>Flora Sheldon m.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, episode twelve, let's do it. There's only six girls

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<v Speaker 1>left in the mansion. How did that happen so quickly? Oh,

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I've got an ideas. Because they keep doing double bpers.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, the sad thing is Laura. With all these

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<v Speaker 12>double episodes, it does mean the amount of bat chunk

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<v Speaker 12>cut episodes that we do together is going to be

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<v Speaker 12>cut short.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>It also means that these episodes have to go for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time in order for us to cover everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope that you are maybe going for a

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<v Speaker 1>long walk, maybe you're you're working at home and you

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>just need some background noise and I don't know, maybe

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you just need some friends in your ears for an hour.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Everyone needs a friend. Matthew Way laughing, at that. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even a joe.

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<v Speaker 12>I know, I just didn't know. I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 12>you're going with that. Everybody just needs some friends, everybody

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<v Speaker 12>out there, Laura on a four class of wine. The

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<v Speaker 12>thing about friends is that you need them, Okay.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And everyone shoots the messenger because just going to get shot.

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<v Speaker 12>People know, people in the long walks being like, what

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<v Speaker 12>the fuck is Laura talking about mersengers and friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Another favorite moment of twenty twenty one is when we

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<v Speaker 3>got to meet the bloody legend that is Kath Kochal.

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Kath was a professional cricketer who broke her back twice,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 3>who had to learn to rewalk three times. She's also

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 3>someone who has a bit of a tragic love story

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 3>that led to her creating the Kindness Factory and really

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 3>realizing how kind apps can change your life. But I

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to start with that story because Kath brought

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<v Speaker 3>us what I would consider to be one of the funniest,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 3>accidentally unfiltered stories I have ever heard in my high life.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 3>So we're going to kick things off there, but just

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a heads up before we jump into

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>this segment. There are mentions of suicide, So if that

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 3>brings up anything for you. Please call Lifeline on thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>eleven fourteen or skip ahead about seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to start the way we start every interview,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is with your certainly unfiltered, your most embarrassing story.

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<v Speaker 13>It's a great way to break the ice. Well, I

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 13>feel like I'm just on a brain scan. There's so

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<v Speaker 13>many to pick from. This could take up the entire podcast. Now,

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 13>a good one that my friends love. Actually sounds really

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 13>kind of wanky, But I'm motivational speaker. So to my

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<v Speaker 13>day job and we'll get into waget a really unique story.

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<v Speaker 6>But I was in the US. I got invited to

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 6>a pretty exclusive event in the US, and I didn't

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 6>really know what it was about.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 13>The way that the woman had explained it to me

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 13>was that it brought together the world's most powerful and

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<v Speaker 13>influential people and brands.

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<v Speaker 6>And to me, it's sound of like a cult.

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<v Speaker 13>And I was a little bit apprehensive, Actually I should

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 13>do this event.

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.280
<v Speaker 6>But they said that'd fly me and my assistant.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 13>I didn't have one at the time, so my best

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 13>friend got a junket to the US with me first class.

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 6>All this kind of stuff and bells should have started.

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 13>Ringing at this moment when I'm sipping champagne in first

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 13>class and all that kind of stuff. And I get

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 13>to this event and we're having a sound check the

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 13>day before, and again things should have been making sense.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 13>The screens were bigger than any house I lived in,

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 13>and I looked like an aunt as a four thousand

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 13>strong audience it was going to be the next day

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 13>because all these seats were there, and I was like, okay.

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 6>The brief that I.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 13>Got were these people have everything they could ever want

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 13>and neat, so you just bring humility, So bring yourself

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 13>humble them.

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<v Speaker 6>I can do that.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 13>And they said to me, I said how long have

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 13>I got for this talk? And they said You've got

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 13>eight minutes? And I said, wow, that's a big story

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 13>to fit.

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 6>Into eight and I normally get forty five.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 13>Any chance I could have fifteen just in the prep

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 13>And they said, look the Dalla Lama and it gets twelve,

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<v Speaker 13>so and I thought they were joking. I thought they

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 13>were joking. I was like, oh, good one, I guess

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 13>eight will do. And so I get there the next

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 13>day and I'm in the green room and the Lily

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<v Speaker 13>snacks and I love snack there's this woman sitting there

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 13>like an African American woman, black woman, beautiful, stunning, and

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 13>I was like, geesus, looks familiar.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 6>And I said, good a. I'm Cath and she said, Caath,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 6>really nice to meet. I'm Michelle and I was like, awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck.

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like she's so beautiful and I go, it's

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 6>really nice to meet you. And she said yeah. Likewise,

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 6>what are you doing back here?

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<v Speaker 13>And I said, I'm speaking today, I'm opening the whole conference.

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 6>Said what are you going to talk about?

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 13>I said, well, I guess my life's but essentially kindness.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 13>She said, it's one of my most favorite things to

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 13>hear about and to learn about it.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh, that's truly lovely.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 13>I said what are you doing and she said, I'm

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 13>on after you. And I was like, what are you

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 13>talking about? And she said, oh, this is in twenty eighteen.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 13>And she goes and I don't watch TV or anything

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 13>like that, and she says, I'm going.

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 6>To talk about the Me Too movement. And I said, wow,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 6>I've heard about that and she said I'm sure you have.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>There.

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<v Speaker 6>So she's sitting there.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 13>And she goes, she goes, hey, I'm going to go

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 13>out the front. Do you mind if I watch I'm

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 13>going to leave you here. I'd really like to listen

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 13>to it you're going to talk about And I said.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 6>Of course, Like I said, I'll do the same.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 13>This is the finish, I'll run around like I really

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 13>want to hear what you got to say. And I

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 13>was like, what a wonderful woman. So I sweat starts

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 13>and I'm like, where am I? Like, what's going on?

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 6>I get out and I'm two minutes into.

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 13>The eight that I've got start sort of sharing everything's

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 13>gone really, really well. And then I look off center

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 13>on stage to the right, and I was like everything

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 13>just started to make sense.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 6>She's sitting next to her husband, Barack Obama, and I'm like,

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 6>and I just go, holy fuck, that was Michelle Obama.

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 6>What the fuck did I say? Did I swear? Oh

0:37:59.480 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 6>my god?

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm my god?

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 13>And I was like, where am I? And I looked

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 13>to the left and it's the da la Lama. See

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 13>You've ready all like the who's of the in this room?

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 13>And I just shout myself like this like the sweat

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 13>was dripping off me, and I nearly ruined the whole thing.

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 13>And I was just like, so I finished the talk

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 13>and had to apologize to her for basically saying, I'm

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 13>a fucking idiot.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm so sorry.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 13>I didn't know, like, of course I know who you are, like,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 13>of course it I just like I was so nervous.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 6>And she was like, it's fine. I loved your story.

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 13>I got this like standing ovation and everyone's like on me.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 13>But I was like, holy shit, how has this happened?

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 13>And yeah, my parents hate me for that. So like,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 13>how if you should bowing down to this person? I

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 13>was like, yeah, I didn't really think so, but.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>She one hundred percent would have loved the fact because

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>she would have thought you knew who she was and

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just didn't care or didn't clock it.

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>She would have loved that.

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 5>You treated her like normal. But I think this is

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.959
<v Speaker 5>so fucking.

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.799
<v Speaker 4>At least you didn't say you look familia. At least

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.839
<v Speaker 4>you didn't ask her what she did for a job.

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 6>I was like, she's tout.

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 13>I was like, she's stunning, like she's she's so beautiful

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 13>when she's got the runaway so like people like that

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 13>have an aura, but she genuine I've never really experienced

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 13>setting on. I'm like, this woman is stunning and her

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 13>voice and all that, and I'm like, yeah, she did

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 13>look for me. I'm like, maybe it's just because she's

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 13>so beautiful.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Was there any kind of explanation or do you think

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>he just wasn't ready to face a life on the outside,

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>like starting again? Was he still not walking or where

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's stemmed from? After he's done? He

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>seems to have done all the hard work. You literally,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like you said you'd sign at leash, you're one day

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>away from your life.

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 5>What do you think happened?

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 13>I don't know, And I think I've heard from a

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 13>lot of I think we're called survivors of suicide, you know,

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 13>when someone very close is passed away in that way,

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 13>and there's so many different responses and it's such a

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 13>relative experience, and I think it's such a personal experience.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 13>For Jim, it was so inexplicable. He was never going

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 13>to be the guy that did that. Like Jim was

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 13>never going to be the guy that did that, And

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 13>so many stories out there like that, right, you know,

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 13>smiling depression, all that kind of stuff. He didn't have

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 13>an existing mental health condition, he didn't seem to be struggling.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 13>There was support available all those sorts of things, but

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 13>there was so much going on for him that I'm

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:04.799
<v Speaker 13>still learning about today that still just gives me so

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 13>much empathy for him and his struggle and all those

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 13>sorts of things. And I think, even individually for both

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 13>of us, we never know what another person is truly thinking, right,

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:14.799
<v Speaker 13>Like we can think that we do and we can

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 13>say that this person is my everything and I know

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 13>everything about them, but we all have little secrets like

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 13>I do. I haven't told a lot of people certain

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 13>parts about my life and things like that, and that's

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 13>just because they're our own.

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 6>And I don't think.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 13>He wanted to share that outwardly with anyone. His mum

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 13>and I were incredibly close, and she didn't see it.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 13>There was no warning sign or anything like that. His friends,

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 13>you know, I feel like I just I exhausted them

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 13>post his passing just by calling them going. But when

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 13>that moment happened, could he have meant that? And it's like,

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 13>well he could have, cath, but we don't know mat

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 13>like it's you know, And so I think he can

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 13>run yourself into the ground, honestly, asking so many questions.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 6>All those photos that we've got together, are they and

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 6>he's smiling in them.

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 13>Does he mean that smile or was that moment as

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 13>special to him as it was to me? And you

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 13>rack your brain and you're never going to have.

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 6>The answers to that.

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.959
<v Speaker 13>For Jim, A lot of people say you must be angry,

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 13>and I was like, absolutely not. Angry is not an

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 13>emotion that I felt towards him, certainly at all. I

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 13>felt a little bit of anger towards myself. You know,

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 13>why did I not see that coming? And this is

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 13>a fair while ago now, But no, it was. If anything,

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 13>I probably loved him more, not for any other reason

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 13>than I just it was just so special.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Kath is a really impressive woman.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 3>Her episode is something that I've found myself going back

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>to quite a few times. I think I've listened to

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.399
<v Speaker 3>that episode about six times myself, just because I seem

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to get so much out of it.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I think she is amazing. Coming up next as.

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 3>A part of our rear in your View, as Brittany

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Hockley would say, is actually the girl who started accidentally

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>unfiltered as a segment. It is Britt's sister, Sherry Hockley.

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Cherry is a nutritionist and she doing life on cut

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 3>to talk about our somewhat complex relationship that we have

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 3>with diet culture and with food in general and exercise.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>But her accidentally unfiltered was as Britt would say, a volcano.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 3>It was actually themed with coconut oil. I just think

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it's absolutely brilliant. Here is Sherry Hockley.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my at home loob story.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 14>So I'm gonna throw j under the bus here because

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 14>it's happening to Jay, my my new fiance.

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 9>Everybody.

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Jay.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 4>We were getting getting.

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 14>Down and dirty one night and we were doing massage Mondays,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 14>which is where we you know, is exactly what it sounds.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 14>We do a massage every Monday, which always.

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 6>Leads to like beautiful, beautiful sex.

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 14>We didn't have any loob, and I said to him, oh, babe,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 14>there's some there's some coconut.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 9>Oil in the pantry.

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 14>Go get that because guys, and I'll give you a

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 14>pro tip, coconut oil is not healthy for you. It

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 14>is not a super food by any means, but it

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 14>is a great lubricant. So I sent him to get

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 14>the jar of coconut oil and he comes running back

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 14>into the bedroom and I said, oh, hold on, like,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 14>I actually use that for cooking. Sometimes, so just put

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 14>a small amount into a tupperware container, bring it back

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 14>into the bedroom, and leave the rest in the pantry.

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 4>So he does.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 14>He scoops it out, he puts it into a tough

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 14>ware container. But I've really got to set the scene

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 14>for you guys.

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:06.400
<v Speaker 6>So we use it.

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 5>It's great, it's fine.

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 6>It's a really good lubricant.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:09.760
<v Speaker 9>Use it a couple more times.

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 14>And then next time massage Monday rolls around. I'm in

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 14>the dark, I'm naked. We're getting down to it. We're

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 14>using the coconut oil. It's really great, you know. He

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 14>gets the container out. It's everywhere, it's on me, it's

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 14>in me. And then I was like, Jay, I feel funny,

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 14>Like I feel really bitty, Like I can feel like

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 14>there's stuff all over me.

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.479
<v Speaker 9>And it wasn't just coconut oil.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean bitty?

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.839
<v Speaker 14>Like you know when like when you rub your hands

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 14>really fast together and bits of skin come upon your hand.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, Like I felt like there was sand, saw

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 14>something on me everywhere. The little boobies were just like

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 14>covered in bumps pretty much.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 5>And so I was like, just put the light on

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 5>and so I'm laying their.

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 14>Stark naked and he puts the light on and I

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 14>am covered head to toe in black mold, the coconut

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 14>oil on moldy in the.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 5>This is wrong on so many levels, called black molds

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 5>literally toxic. You had that shit all over your body.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 6>He's fucked.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 4>It is so fucked.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 14>It had gone mold in the container and it was

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 14>a dark and I couldn't see and he had literally

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.280
<v Speaker 14>massaged mold all over my body.

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 5>It was in chunks all over me.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 2>It was disgusting. Thanks Art for our Year in Review.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 3>We are chatting with Hugh van Kylenberg. He is an author,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 3>he is a motivational speaker, he's a podcaster, and he's

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 3>also the creator of the Resilience Project. Laura and Britt

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.240
<v Speaker 3>had a really can a conversation with Hugh about something

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 3>that I think impacts all of us every day, whether

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 3>we are aware.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Of it or not, and that's comparison culture and the

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 2>way that social.

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Media plays a role in.

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Our everyday life.

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And I just absolutely loved this moment with Hugh Van Kylenberg.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because we do live in a society that is

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>very consumer is driven, where advertised to constantly, like we

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>are told you get the next newest best thing, you

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>will be happier. I mean, there's every time that Apple

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>brings out a new phone as a line around the street.

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Every time you know, added As brings out in new shoes,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a line around the street. Like, we are very,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>very consumer driven in the society that we live in.

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>But how do you think and I think just going

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>on for something that you just said, Britt, this idea

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>of comparison culture. It's something we talk about a lot

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, and I think because we both work

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot in the social media world, we really do

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>see how fake it is and how much people put

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>on this.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 5>So fake facade.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time we even get sucked into

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it from time to time. What role do you think

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>comparison culture plays into into the mental health battles that

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.479
<v Speaker 1>people are having in this day and age.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 15>It has an enormous impact on us. It's an example.

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 15>I was changed to someone the other day about this.

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 15>If a friend come up to us and said, oh,

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 15>I've got a promotion. I've been promoted at this job,

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 15>Like they said it to us and they sat us

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 15>down and said, I'm so excited. We would say I'm

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.439
<v Speaker 15>so happy for you that's just so, and we would

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 15>feel that. But the way it's presented on social media,

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 15>I think our first thing is to go, I'm not

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 15>a promotion in ages, or gosh, I'm not getting paid

0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:00.080
<v Speaker 15>that amount of money. The way that Instagram or whatever

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 15>it is whatever on Instagram is probably the most common one.

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 15>The way it's presented and packaged up. We just can't

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 15>help it. Compare ourselves because we compare ourselves to everyone.

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 15>So then we don't look at our friends and go, oh,

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:12.720
<v Speaker 15>my friends are promotion great. We go, that's someone else's

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 15>doing better than I am. But if that sat down

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 15>and told us face to face the good news, we

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 15>would feel joyful them. So there's so much happening. And

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 15>a very good friend of mine, Ben Crow, was talking

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 15>to me about this the other day and we were

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 15>talking about three main places we get our information consuming

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 15>information from right now, social media, the news, and advertising.

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.160
<v Speaker 15>And if you just think about the three roles they

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 15>play on what they do to us. So the news

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 15>is skewed massively to the negative. So I think it's

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 15>something like there's an index that measures positive to negative

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 15>language in the news, and I think at the moment

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.320
<v Speaker 15>in twenty twenty one, it's something like eighty eight percent

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 15>of what we hear in the news is negative. I

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 15>could be a bit off there, it's close to eighty

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 15>eight percent, so we got a lot of negative news.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 15>Social media is predicated off shame, so whenever you jump

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 15>off social media, you feel regret and shame. You feel

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 15>like I'm not enough. Basically that's what you feel like.

0:46:58.000 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 15>And think about the amount of hours we spend on

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 15>social media, that's the main thing we get from it

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 15>is I'm not enough. And then we have advertising, and

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 15>the role of advertising is to make us feel like

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 15>if we had this certain thing, our life would be better.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 12>Now.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 15>According to research done not too long ago, the average

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 15>amount of advertising impressions we receive a day is five thousand,

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 15>so we get five thousand reminders a day that our

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 15>life could be better. Plus we spend, however many hours

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 15>on social media feeling like I'm not enough because I'm

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 15>not like this person, and then we have this negativity

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 15>on the news. I think that all adds up to

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 15>the amount of anxiety right now in the world is

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 15>just it's off the charts, and I feel like these

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 15>three things have are a big part. I'm not saying

0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:40.720
<v Speaker 15>turn off the news. We need to engage in what's happening,

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 15>but just be aware that that that's like a deliberate

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 15>like there's a lot of good news happening in the

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 15>world as well. We got a tune into that as well.

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 3>To finish off our review of twenty twenty one, we're

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 3>going into an episode that was recorded quite recently, Laura

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 3>and Brits that down with Chanel Bryan. Chanel Bryan is

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 3>a life up.

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 2>She's a member of our community.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>She's a mom of two, she's a wife. We're so

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 3>incredibly grateful for the time that Chanelle took, which is

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 3>something that she doesn't have very much left of because

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Chanelle has terminal cancer. And she joined the podcast to

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.200
<v Speaker 3>talk about grief, about leaving a legacy for her family,

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 3>about advocating for your own health, to talk about gratitude, to.

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 5>Talk about love.

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 3>It was an incredibly powerful and moving conversation. So I

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>can think of no better way than to wrap up

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:37.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one than by thanking new Chanel and really

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 3>telling you that we are so grateful for what you

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 3>provided for life.

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 16>On cut, She's like, it's not good, it's a really

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 16>bad prognosis, and I'm so sorry to do this to you.

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 16>And you know, I don't want to be doing this

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 16>over the phone and in this way, but it's terminal.

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 16>Life just stops, you know, hence the docu series called

0:48:55.320 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 16>Life on Standby. It just stops. And but yet when

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 16>you're a young mum, it has to fucking go on.

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 16>My kids are inside waiting for dinner, you know.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Liked, I'm so sorry, Chanell. I just can't imagine what

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like to be in that moment. And like you

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>just said, to know that someone has just literally told

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you that there's an end point for you and it's

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>probably not far away. But you're like, well, I just

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>got to get back into the spaghetti on the stove.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 6>Like my kids are waiting.

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 16>That's it, and that's far off flight. I guess like, okay,

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 16>I can't be around the kids right now. I know that,

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 16>And luckily we've got a really good community around us.

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 16>We did move away from family and we literally call

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 16>the neighbors and the kids over right at the neighbor's

0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.880
<v Speaker 16>house straight away, and Luke went and did that, and

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 16>whilst he was away, he was trying to set all

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 16>the kids. When he got there as well, so he

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 16>was gone for about half an hour and I was

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 16>just sitting there and the person I want to call

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 16>his mum, obviously, and I can't call her. So I'm

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 16>sitting there just with this intense fear, not knowing what

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 16>to do, and desperately wanting Luke to come home, feeling alone, shaking.

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:05.799
<v Speaker 16>You know, You're just it's so difficult to explain. And

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 16>I found myself getting drawn to write this death list.

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 16>It sounds so morbid and so weird, but I just

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:14.680
<v Speaker 16>wanted to write notes in my phone of things that

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 16>I needed to do, like and I think it was

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 16>that mum and that like maternal part of me. It's like,

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 16>if I'm going to die, my kids need all these things.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 16>And it just kicked in and I tried to almost

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 16>block it instinctively. I'm like, God, just relax, just try

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 16>and settle into this news. Don't focus on your death.

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 16>Just yeah, and it just kept coming, and I was

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 16>just like, honor this, it's coming for a reason. Just

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 16>write down what you need to write down. And in

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 16>that moment, I've still got it on my phone, you know.

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 16>I wrote down things like writing letters to the kids

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 16>on their wedding days and recording videos.

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 12>On ye like me.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, it's like it's just all those things that

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 16>you know you're going to miss.

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Shelle, and you saying that you wrote this like this,

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>did this death list come in this half hour that

0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you're waiting for Luke? Yeah?

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, literally, such a mom shit.

0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 9>I couldn't not do it.

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.799
<v Speaker 16>I just I had to, and I felt like I

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 16>wasn't honoring myself if I didn't. And you know what,

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 16>It's grounded me. That list has grounded me so much

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 16>through the uncertainty of his time, and I keep going

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 16>back to it. And you know, I did that the

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 16>other night. I had a night at Accommodation. Someone had

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 16>booked me this beautiful night, and I was like, I'm

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 16>gonna go and I'm gonna fucking write these letters and

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 16>record these videos and do these things.

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:26.040
<v Speaker 6>It was hideous.

0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 16>It was the worst thing I've ever done in my life.

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 16>And I didn't even last the whole night. I ended

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 16>up calling Luke. I started getting hysterical and I was like,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 16>I can't do this, and then I couldn't breathe very well.

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 16>It's in my lungs, so it's kind of everywhere in

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 16>my lungs and they're just waiting for them to fill

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 16>up with fluid effectively, so my breathing is a little

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 16>bit more labored, and the cough, it's just gonna progressively

0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 16>get worse. And because I was so emotionally upset, it

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.919
<v Speaker 16>was triggering the physical parts of me. And until Luke

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 16>said he's like, I'm just gonna come and get you,

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 16>I just couldn't calm down.

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 6>Until he was there.

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:55.560
<v Speaker 9>I just felt so far away.

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:57.959
<v Speaker 6>I was ten minutes up the road.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 16>So I've been told if I don't have treatment, I'll

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 16>be lucky to see Christmas. So that's weeks away.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm so sorry, thank you, Like.

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 6>What can you do?

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 16>You know, it's fucked, It's so fucked. But I can't

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 16>control it. You know, I can control writing letters to

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 16>the kids. I can control bringing forward our wedding vow

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 16>and Yule to this weekend as opposed to in five

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 16>months time. I can control my goodbyas and creating memories

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 16>and traditions with the kids now, taking videos.

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:29.240
<v Speaker 6>So they're the things I'm.

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 16>Controlling, and you know that's that Mum and me and

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 16>I'm doing that, and that's all that I can do.

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 16>So then Once I do that, I have to let

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 16>go like it's the ultimate lesson in surrender, ultimate lesson.

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 16>But yeah, look, I'm still hopeful. I'm realistic. I understand

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 16>the type of cancer that I have. I understand the prognosis.

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 6>I've accepted it.

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 16>We're still looking into some interesting alternative treatments that I'll

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 16>be starting literally tomorrow. There are very limited mainstream options,

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 16>but I'm very much at a point of there's a

0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.840
<v Speaker 16>clinical trial. I might be able to get into slim chance,

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 16>but it will do anything for me, high chance that's

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 16>going to impact the quality of my life, and there's

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.319
<v Speaker 16>no crystal ball. It might last months. You know, they

0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:10.399
<v Speaker 16>get this shit wrong all the time. They do, they

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 16>do they do. You hang on to that, but I

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 16>have accepted that it's correct, and we'll see where we

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 16>end up. But it's that limbo land of like quality

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 16>over quantity, making special memories. I want to go out

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 16>in my way. We're setting things up, having those fucked conversations.

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 16>I want to die at home. I want the kids

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 16>to be around. I want them to experience death in

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.480
<v Speaker 16>a way that's not mainstream. I want them to have

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 16>these beautiful little traditions and things that they can do

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 16>to be a part of it and to really understand

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 16>what death is as opposed to mummy gets wrapped with

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 16>a you know, as she comes over and then she's

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 16>wheeled out of the room and then you go back

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:44.759
<v Speaker 16>home and she's just not there. That's not what I

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 16>want for them at all. So putting the work into

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 16>that as well is also another thing that's bringing me

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 16>calm and ease at the moment in knowing that again,

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 16>I'm doing all that I can to set them up

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 16>to cope with this and deal with this in the

0:53:59.320 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 16>best way that I can.

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, But you said something to me about boundaries,

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and you were like, do you know what? This last

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>period has made me very very aware of my boundaries.

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 1>It's made me very acutely aware of what's important to me,

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:13.720
<v Speaker 1>and if I didn't want to do it, I wouldn't

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>fucking do it. And I was like, Yeah, there's nothing

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that's going to cut through the shit in life like

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 1>knowing when the end is coming. Like what has this

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>been like in creating priorities in your life? How do

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you navigate this next part and this next phase of life.

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 16>It's so difficult to explain. It's the highs are high

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:35.920
<v Speaker 16>and the lows are low, and they're both there simultaneously,

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 16>and the highs are phenomenal. I can't explain. I wish

0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 16>I could explain to you how beautiful the moments are

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 16>right now. Like I've done therapy for years, I've been

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 16>working on these things for myself, and you know, you

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 16>have a breakthrough in therapy and you deal with these

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:52.239
<v Speaker 16>things and you're like, this is great, I can see

0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 16>where this has come from, and blah blah blah. And

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 16>I spoke to my therapist the other day and I

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 16>was like, we've been working on this issue for like

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 16>a year. It's gone, It's instantly resolved, and all those

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:07.439
<v Speaker 16>things are just everything's just clear. I've never let love

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 16>reach me in this way before, and I never knew

0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 16>that it was accessible in this way. Like I feel

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 16>like I have been cracked open to my care like

0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 16>literally like a morbid way of saying it, but like

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 16>corpse on a body, just cut open, and every single

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 16>ounce of love is penetrating my entire body, my entire being,

0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:32.400
<v Speaker 16>and to fully allow that in is magnificent. It is

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 16>the most glorious thing I've ever experienced in my life.

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 16>And to be able to share that with my family

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.239
<v Speaker 16>and my kids and to actually fully let that reach me.

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 16>A bit of a take home message with that, and

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 16>I'm trying to share that with people at the moment

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 16>is this is actually accessible all the time. People around

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 16>us do have the capacity to show us love in

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 16>this way, but it's all our shit that gets in

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 16>the way to block that.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 9>We block it.

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 16>So many intricate moments that I've had that are just

0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 16>so beautiful at a time like this, when life is

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 16>just fucked. To have the beautiful moments like that so

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 16>clearly and so frequently just allows such a sense of

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 16>calm and ease and peace into leading into this next

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:15.840
<v Speaker 16>transition for me. The more at peace I can find

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:17.880
<v Speaker 16>with this, I can come with this, the better it

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 16>is for everyone around me.

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Chanelle is just a phenomenal woman.

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.399
<v Speaker 3>We actually have never received as many messages on our

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 3>social media as to what we did after that episode

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 3>with Chanel. I think she made a lot of us

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 3>look at life through a different lens and we're so

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 3>so immensely grateful for it. And with that, we are

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 3>wrapping up our year in review twenty twenty one. That's

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 3>what it was it was a whole lot of things.

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 3>It was filled with a lot of good stuff. It

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 3>was filled with a little bit of bad stuff as well,

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 3>but we got through it together and I'm very, very

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:56.759
<v Speaker 3>grateful to have done it with you guys. That's it

0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>for twenty twenty one. We cannot wait to be back

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.399
<v Speaker 3>in your ears or your earholes, as Laura would say.

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty two. We've got a whole bunch of

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 3>incredible guests coming your way. We got a few topics,

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and we will have an additional podcast to drop in

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 3>the form of our radio show that is starting January fifteenth,

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I think is the dates, So we're going to catch

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 3>you in like two.

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And a half, three weeks something like that. I hope

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 2>you have a wonderful end of the year.

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 3>And I just thought I would wrap this up by

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:26.480
<v Speaker 3>letting you know that I am recording this in a loundroom.

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 3>It's my loundrooms and not bricks lund room. But I'm

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 3>in my underwear in true life on CUF form, and

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't see much of that changing in twenty twenty two.

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 3>You know the drill, tell your mum, tell your dad,

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 3>tell your dog, tell your friend, particularly a self isolating friend,

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 3>tell them about life on cut. It might just get

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 3>me through some kind of lonely days that a lot

0:57:44.720 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 3>of us are experiencing at the moment. And share the

0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 3>love because we love love.

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 8>Bakandaba tagabata berbay karabayo.