1 00:00:10,669 --> 00:00:14,869 Speaker 1: My hard podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen 2 00:00:14,909 --> 00:00:16,468 Speaker 1: live on the Free I heard. 3 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:19,029 Speaker 2: Ang It, I've ben everyone's wieler body. 4 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:21,229 Speaker 3: I'm having a great drive home Woods. 5 00:00:21,268 --> 00:00:25,148 Speaker 2: We've got one of the absolute stars of our catalog 6 00:00:25,229 --> 00:00:28,029 Speaker 2: these days, Lola Young joins us. 7 00:00:28,709 --> 00:00:33,909 Speaker 3: Very exciting. Hey, Lola, we're so good. 8 00:00:34,149 --> 00:00:36,269 Speaker 2: I want to start by saying something to you because 9 00:00:36,388 --> 00:00:39,549 Speaker 2: I heard MESSI for the first time, and I was like, 10 00:00:39,549 --> 00:00:41,629 Speaker 2: I want to go and watch this on YouTube. I 11 00:00:41,668 --> 00:00:44,069 Speaker 2: went to YouTube and I just double checked that this 12 00:00:44,108 --> 00:00:44,909 Speaker 2: is still the case. 13 00:00:45,149 --> 00:00:46,068 Speaker 3: So I've watched the clip. 14 00:00:46,108 --> 00:00:48,388 Speaker 2: I've got a fascination with top comments on YouTube, and 15 00:00:48,429 --> 00:00:50,229 Speaker 2: I was like, geez, the top comment on this clip 16 00:00:50,269 --> 00:00:52,629 Speaker 2: is absolutely hilarious, and I just double checked it. It is 17 00:00:52,668 --> 00:00:53,789 Speaker 2: still the top comment. 18 00:00:53,549 --> 00:00:55,949 Speaker 3: On your YouTube. It has forty one thousand up votes. 19 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:58,908 Speaker 3: Do you know what it is? No, Okay, it is. 20 00:00:59,389 --> 00:01:02,309 Speaker 2: I am a four hundred year old swamp witch and 21 00:01:02,349 --> 00:01:04,949 Speaker 2: this is the most authentic music I've heard in three 22 00:01:04,989 --> 00:01:06,069 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty years. 23 00:01:07,909 --> 00:01:13,509 Speaker 3: Is the top That is awesome? 24 00:01:13,949 --> 00:01:15,149 Speaker 4: I just wanted to hear it again. 25 00:01:15,269 --> 00:01:15,789 Speaker 3: That's great. 26 00:01:17,269 --> 00:01:19,389 Speaker 5: How does that compliment feel, Lola? 27 00:01:20,189 --> 00:01:22,909 Speaker 4: It feels good if it was real. But also, but 28 00:01:23,149 --> 00:01:25,509 Speaker 4: like I know why they're doing that, because every comment 29 00:01:25,589 --> 00:01:27,749 Speaker 4: underneath that video is like I'm a fifty seven seven 30 00:01:27,829 --> 00:01:30,229 Speaker 4: year old woman from like epswetch. 31 00:01:32,829 --> 00:01:34,629 Speaker 3: So like I think they're just playing off of that. 32 00:01:34,829 --> 00:01:36,869 Speaker 4: They're like, I'm a six hundred year old Yeah. 33 00:01:39,149 --> 00:01:42,349 Speaker 3: That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay, that's great. 34 00:01:42,749 --> 00:01:44,509 Speaker 4: It's not like there are actually a four hundred. 35 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:46,069 Speaker 3: That's why I was hoping that. 36 00:01:46,229 --> 00:01:50,349 Speaker 2: I was hoping that, which, hey, let's talk about some 37 00:01:50,429 --> 00:01:52,749 Speaker 2: new music, this new album. Now you might be able 38 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:54,309 Speaker 2: to help us to be here because we were talking before. 39 00:01:54,709 --> 00:01:57,269 Speaker 2: Obviously we're in a commercial radio station and sitting in codes. 40 00:01:57,989 --> 00:02:00,829 Speaker 2: We're just kind of trying to brainstorm away to announce 41 00:02:00,909 --> 00:02:02,749 Speaker 2: the album title that's radio friendly? 42 00:02:02,829 --> 00:02:03,789 Speaker 3: Have you thought about that? 43 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:07,749 Speaker 1: No, what are your thoughts on I'm only fudging myself, 44 00:02:08,508 --> 00:02:12,349 Speaker 1: No way, okay, okay, just a brain brainstorm some more. 45 00:02:13,069 --> 00:02:14,989 Speaker 3: I'm only frying myself. 46 00:02:14,668 --> 00:02:18,349 Speaker 4: Flicking we had, I'm fling myself. 47 00:02:18,389 --> 00:02:19,789 Speaker 3: It does sound like something else. 48 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:24,949 Speaker 1: Well, a few options, and so tell us a bit 49 00:02:24,989 --> 00:02:26,389 Speaker 1: about I'm only flicking myself. 50 00:02:26,389 --> 00:02:30,109 Speaker 5: What what? What's the album about? Lola? 51 00:02:31,309 --> 00:02:34,069 Speaker 4: This is about It's quite a deep album, and I 52 00:02:34,069 --> 00:02:36,349 Speaker 4: mean it's it's it's a node to kind of my 53 00:02:37,149 --> 00:02:39,069 Speaker 4: where I was at in my life, and it's a 54 00:02:39,069 --> 00:02:46,469 Speaker 4: reflection of some difficult situations I was in it. It's 55 00:02:46,469 --> 00:02:49,349 Speaker 4: like partially a love album, but it's more about learning 56 00:02:49,389 --> 00:02:53,069 Speaker 4: to kind of accept and and push past some some 57 00:02:53,149 --> 00:02:55,789 Speaker 4: tricky situations and experiences. 58 00:02:57,069 --> 00:02:59,309 Speaker 1: I read a quote actually, Lola, which I'm going to 59 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:00,029 Speaker 1: pick up right now. 60 00:03:00,069 --> 00:03:01,469 Speaker 5: I find this really really interesting. 61 00:03:01,709 --> 00:03:03,869 Speaker 1: You said that it's about kind of not giving a 62 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:07,629 Speaker 1: not giving a flick and also embodying that feeling, and 63 00:03:07,669 --> 00:03:09,189 Speaker 1: it makes you feel a little bit like you've got 64 00:03:09,229 --> 00:03:11,429 Speaker 1: an alter ego because it's sort of like how you 65 00:03:11,469 --> 00:03:12,669 Speaker 1: should be feeling or how you. 66 00:03:12,589 --> 00:03:14,109 Speaker 5: Want to be feeling. Can you talk about that a 67 00:03:14,109 --> 00:03:14,509 Speaker 5: bit more? 68 00:03:15,029 --> 00:03:16,949 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was I think that was in reflection to 69 00:03:17,029 --> 00:03:19,829 Speaker 4: one thing, in relation to one thing, because that song 70 00:03:19,909 --> 00:03:22,788 Speaker 4: was like quite a cential song, and it was definitely 71 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:27,108 Speaker 4: me taking on like an ego a little bit, but 72 00:03:27,149 --> 00:03:30,389 Speaker 4: more like it was like me wanting to feel like 73 00:03:30,389 --> 00:03:33,948 Speaker 4: this way, but not necessarily feeling that way. That sums 74 00:03:33,989 --> 00:03:36,349 Speaker 4: up the album quite well too, in the sense of 75 00:03:36,669 --> 00:03:40,589 Speaker 4: wanting being hopeful for the future, but not necessarily experiencing 76 00:03:40,789 --> 00:03:44,989 Speaker 4: or experiencing that that sense of happiness right in that moment. 77 00:03:45,389 --> 00:03:48,109 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, okay, So then so then can you comment 78 00:03:48,189 --> 00:03:49,949 Speaker 1: on where you are in that journy now now that 79 00:03:49,989 --> 00:03:51,909 Speaker 1: you have written that album and you've gone to the 80 00:03:51,949 --> 00:03:56,509 Speaker 1: place of wanting to be at a certain feeling, like 81 00:03:56,669 --> 00:03:58,069 Speaker 1: you do you feel like you're closer to that. 82 00:03:58,269 --> 00:04:00,749 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely more. It was definitely healing writing it 83 00:04:00,829 --> 00:04:03,949 Speaker 4: and very Yeah, cathartic writing it because I meant it 84 00:04:03,989 --> 00:04:06,989 Speaker 4: meant that I could push past some things and also 85 00:04:07,069 --> 00:04:09,949 Speaker 4: and also therefore kind of like look back at myself 86 00:04:09,989 --> 00:04:11,949 Speaker 4: and look back at that place I was in and 87 00:04:12,029 --> 00:04:14,389 Speaker 4: have it all, you know, have it all in song form, 88 00:04:14,389 --> 00:04:15,389 Speaker 4: which is really nice. 89 00:04:15,749 --> 00:04:15,909 Speaker 3: Yeah. 90 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:18,868 Speaker 4: I meant that I could heal a lot through some things. 91 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:21,709 Speaker 2: Yeah, when Messi's coming out of really going viral, you're 92 00:04:21,829 --> 00:04:22,588 Speaker 2: you're in rehab. 93 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:24,909 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild. 94 00:04:25,229 --> 00:04:28,069 Speaker 2: And then you've come out what MESSI kind of in 95 00:04:28,069 --> 00:04:30,429 Speaker 2: Australia particular early this year was when that song was 96 00:04:30,509 --> 00:04:33,069 Speaker 2: hitting its straps. And now I've got a new record, 97 00:04:33,549 --> 00:04:37,388 Speaker 2: You've really gone through. Arguably, they must, like I can't 98 00:04:37,429 --> 00:04:40,909 Speaker 2: picture a more tumultuous period in terms of transitioning from 99 00:04:41,229 --> 00:04:44,029 Speaker 2: where you were there to now being one of the 100 00:04:44,029 --> 00:04:46,949 Speaker 2: biggest artists in the world. And I thought I saw 101 00:04:47,349 --> 00:04:50,389 Speaker 2: an interview did with Elton John where I feel like 102 00:04:50,469 --> 00:04:53,709 Speaker 2: he said some stuff, which I mean, it must have 103 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:55,549 Speaker 2: been nice to hear things like this from him. 104 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:56,109 Speaker 3: Have a listen. 105 00:04:56,269 --> 00:04:58,308 Speaker 6: There's a track on your album to be the next single. 106 00:04:58,469 --> 00:05:01,628 Speaker 6: I'm going to tell everyone it's called Dealer. I but 107 00:05:01,829 --> 00:05:05,549 Speaker 6: my house that that's the number one single. It's unbelievable. 108 00:05:05,669 --> 00:05:09,669 Speaker 6: It's the biggest smash I've heard in years. So I 109 00:05:09,709 --> 00:05:11,629 Speaker 6: just can't tell you how proud of you I am, 110 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:13,988 Speaker 6: because I know what you've been through and you've come 111 00:05:14,029 --> 00:05:15,868 Speaker 6: through it. On the other side, You're going to have 112 00:05:15,909 --> 00:05:19,428 Speaker 6: the best career because you can sing live, you can 113 00:05:19,988 --> 00:05:22,268 Speaker 6: you are just you've got the whole deal going. 114 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:25,789 Speaker 2: How did it feel to have Elton and empathize with 115 00:05:25,829 --> 00:05:26,349 Speaker 2: that journey? 116 00:05:26,589 --> 00:05:27,029 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 117 00:05:27,149 --> 00:05:30,069 Speaker 4: It was mad, I think, like I couldn't believe they 118 00:05:30,069 --> 00:05:32,349 Speaker 4: were saying that. And also, you know, it was very 119 00:05:32,349 --> 00:05:35,029 Speaker 4: meaningful coming from someone who's done it and done it 120 00:05:35,069 --> 00:05:37,869 Speaker 4: so well and beautifully, and you know, yeah, it was 121 00:05:38,149 --> 00:05:41,669 Speaker 4: last year was a lot, and it was a lot emotionally, 122 00:05:41,829 --> 00:05:44,109 Speaker 4: and hearing him say he was proud of me, even 123 00:05:44,149 --> 00:05:46,068 Speaker 4: though I'd never met him in person, was like, so 124 00:05:46,949 --> 00:05:49,589 Speaker 4: was so like it was even more special because it 125 00:05:49,629 --> 00:05:51,389 Speaker 4: meant that there's a connection that you can form with 126 00:05:51,429 --> 00:05:54,188 Speaker 4: somebody just through kind of listening to somebody's music that 127 00:05:54,269 --> 00:05:56,949 Speaker 4: he feels like safe enough and he feels like he 128 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:59,029 Speaker 4: knows me enough through my music to be able to 129 00:05:59,069 --> 00:06:01,469 Speaker 4: say that, say something like that, which is so powerful. 130 00:06:01,509 --> 00:06:03,988 Speaker 4: And also knowing what he's gone through, knowing he's been 131 00:06:04,269 --> 00:06:06,629 Speaker 4: through addiction, and knowing that he's kind of come out 132 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:08,469 Speaker 4: the other side. There's hoping that too. So it was 133 00:06:08,549 --> 00:06:10,509 Speaker 4: very moving and very powerful. 134 00:06:11,149 --> 00:06:13,669 Speaker 1: Did he did he share some advice with you, Lala, 135 00:06:13,829 --> 00:06:17,628 Speaker 1: just on you know, dealing with things like like fame not. 136 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:20,189 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm seeing him soon, so I'm going to 137 00:06:20,269 --> 00:06:21,909 Speaker 4: go to his house, and I'm going to still his 138 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:27,629 Speaker 4: house because it's not an Onborn hat yet. So I'm 139 00:06:27,669 --> 00:06:29,629 Speaker 4: already I'm already, I'm already getting the. 140 00:06:29,589 --> 00:06:30,309 Speaker 3: Keys, mate. 141 00:06:32,149 --> 00:06:32,389 Speaker 2: No no, no. 142 00:06:32,589 --> 00:06:33,909 Speaker 4: I thought like, I'm going to give him a little 143 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:36,068 Speaker 4: bit more time, maybe, yeah, more and if it's not 144 00:06:36,149 --> 00:06:36,428 Speaker 4: by that. 145 00:06:37,229 --> 00:06:39,069 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I love that. 146 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:42,149 Speaker 2: So, Lola, I mean, it's funny you're talking about wanting 147 00:06:42,349 --> 00:06:46,029 Speaker 2: an experience and not quite having it, and then maybe 148 00:06:46,029 --> 00:06:48,188 Speaker 2: this is a nice reflection for people who are outside 149 00:06:48,229 --> 00:06:51,349 Speaker 2: of the fame and success that you've enjoyed. Is the 150 00:06:51,389 --> 00:06:54,509 Speaker 2: feeling that you wanted when you were kind of in 151 00:06:54,549 --> 00:06:58,628 Speaker 2: the doldrums and dealing with addiction. Has that been solved 152 00:06:58,988 --> 00:07:01,949 Speaker 2: or healed through success and fame or or is it 153 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:04,509 Speaker 2: still or is that solved? 154 00:07:04,749 --> 00:07:07,029 Speaker 4: I don't think anything can be solved or healed through fame. 155 00:07:07,149 --> 00:07:09,349 Speaker 4: I think it's only what you make. And I think 156 00:07:09,829 --> 00:07:12,469 Speaker 4: I don't think anything could be can be changed necessarily 157 00:07:12,509 --> 00:07:14,269 Speaker 4: even by fame, because you're still the same person. You 158 00:07:14,269 --> 00:07:17,069 Speaker 4: still deal with the same things. But I think it's 159 00:07:17,069 --> 00:07:20,029 Speaker 4: definitely changed my outlook on how much I have to lose. 160 00:07:20,229 --> 00:07:22,069 Speaker 3: So has it been difficult becoming famous? 161 00:07:24,429 --> 00:07:27,269 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm not. I mean it's been like a 162 00:07:27,349 --> 00:07:30,669 Speaker 4: journey of like, you know, getting to know myself a 163 00:07:30,709 --> 00:07:34,629 Speaker 4: little bit better through the lens of other people and 164 00:07:34,869 --> 00:07:38,589 Speaker 4: also just like you know, just being learning how to 165 00:07:38,669 --> 00:07:41,429 Speaker 4: navigate its complex within itself. But I do think that 166 00:07:41,509 --> 00:07:44,669 Speaker 4: I'm I'm getting there, I think, And also there are 167 00:07:44,669 --> 00:07:46,189 Speaker 4: some beautiful moments within that. 168 00:07:46,509 --> 00:07:48,789 Speaker 2: Can you give us an example of maybe like what's 169 00:07:48,829 --> 00:07:50,829 Speaker 2: been the hardest and then what has been the most beautiful? 170 00:07:52,269 --> 00:07:55,749 Speaker 4: The hardest has kind of been just the expectation of 171 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:59,509 Speaker 4: the performative personally. You feel like some of you are like, 172 00:07:59,589 --> 00:08:02,949 Speaker 4: you know, there's a per performative person inside me that 173 00:08:03,269 --> 00:08:04,749 Speaker 4: someone them feels like I have to live up to 174 00:08:04,789 --> 00:08:08,949 Speaker 4: this like idea of me that other people may see 175 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:12,709 Speaker 4: or expect. And then the most beautiful thing is just 176 00:08:12,749 --> 00:08:16,269 Speaker 4: having the response and and and performing to people who 177 00:08:16,269 --> 00:08:20,349 Speaker 4: connect to your music in the same way that I 178 00:08:20,389 --> 00:08:23,069 Speaker 4: have done or in a completely different way, and hearing 179 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:28,149 Speaker 4: people stories and memories that they've created with my music, 180 00:08:28,509 --> 00:08:30,989 Speaker 4: and also just having that kind of raw connection with 181 00:08:30,989 --> 00:08:33,468 Speaker 4: my actual with my fans or you know, whether you 182 00:08:33,468 --> 00:08:36,309 Speaker 4: want to call them that that interaction. 183 00:08:36,429 --> 00:08:39,109 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been so lovely getting to know Lola. Yeah, 184 00:08:39,228 --> 00:08:42,069 Speaker 1: like it's just you you. You are such a real person. 185 00:08:42,149 --> 00:08:44,749 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your honesty Any Canada. Good 186 00:08:44,828 --> 00:08:47,669 Speaker 1: luck with the new album again. Hopefully Dealer doesn't go 187 00:08:47,789 --> 00:08:50,309 Speaker 1: number one though, so you can have Elton John's house 188 00:08:50,348 --> 00:08:52,309 Speaker 1: and then if you do throw a party, we'd love 189 00:08:52,348 --> 00:08:52,949 Speaker 1: to be invited. 190 00:08:53,549 --> 00:08:55,029 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'll invite both of you. 191 00:08:56,149 --> 00:09:02,309 Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. Then we'll see you there.