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Speaker 1: Safan Hassan is the only athlete in Olympic history to

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Speaker 1: meddle in both middle and long distance running events at

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Speaker 1: the same edition of the Olympic Games. She's won gold

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Speaker 1: medals in the ten thousand meter and five thousand meter

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Speaker 1: Olympic events, and is the current reigning Olympic Marathon champion

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Speaker 1: and women's Olympic marathon record holder. Fresh off running the

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Speaker 1: Sydney Marathon in record time, Safan sat down with a

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Speaker 1: Female Athlete Project for an exclusive one on one thanks

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Speaker 1: to Nike, we hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: Sofan, congratulations on your win. How is your body feeling?

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Speaker 2: How are you recovering post race? A?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. It is very beautiful Tomson,

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Speaker 3: but it's also very hard after different of course when

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Speaker 3: I finish, when I win it, I didn't fill depend

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Speaker 3: because I win. Yeah, this is amazing. But yes, Saturday

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Speaker 3: nights and I feel like my leg is now contacted

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Speaker 3: to my body or not attached to my body.

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Speaker 4: It's like really or kind of.

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Speaker 2: Hold almost I have to pick them up from I've

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Speaker 2: seen you say that you often eat ice cream as

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Speaker 2: a post race celebration. Did you get some ice cream?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it the ice cream, but it's not

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Speaker 3: really often to really happen once or two ten.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, can you describe yourself as a little kid.

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Speaker 2: What were you like when you were young?

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Speaker 4: I'm crazy curious, war is done?

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Speaker 3: And if you're sorry for my mother because it was

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Speaker 3: really hard because I try everything. I tried, tried, tried,

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Speaker 3: especially when he said don't do them doing again and

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Speaker 3: I was waters done.

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Speaker 4: Really crazy, I was really curious. I was like, I

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Speaker 4: want to know everything is.

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Speaker 2: That was the curiosity that helped you to find a

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Speaker 2: way into running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the crazy because I'm very curiate,

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Speaker 3: just like when I read think, I just want to

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Speaker 3: find out what is they As a child, I really

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Speaker 3: want to become a scientist. Okay, so I just want

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Speaker 4: How just the nature, how so credible on this.

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Speaker 3: But I'm luckily I'm happy I didn't become because I

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Speaker 4: It's a way better.

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Speaker 2: What made you fall in love with running?

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Speaker 3: So I come from Ethiopia and when everybody running, I'm crazy.

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Speaker 4: I'm not really. I love outdoor, so I like outdoors,

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Speaker 3: Always seen we run to school and I play around

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Speaker 3: and sometimes really my mom used to look for me

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Speaker 3: for two its even skipped my land. And when I

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Speaker 3: come to Netherland, it's just everything was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not that much. You run, but I'm really outdoor

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I have to run, and

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Speaker 3: I was starting. I want to do every sport, but

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Speaker 3: I was, God, that's what I like it. The towers

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Speaker 3: I was eventually come up, I have talent And was.

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Speaker 2: There someone who noticed you and noticed the talent that

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Speaker 2: you have?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're always telling me as a child also, but

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Speaker 3: I immedially yeah, I think without knowing, I was already

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Speaker 4: Because I really run.

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Speaker 3: As a child, I would really play around, chasing each

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Speaker 4: I just school.

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Speaker 3: Also, most of the time I choose running when it's

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Speaker 3: know I like to do handerbred bullywood handbook.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, volleyable with the net. Yeah they wouldn't with

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Speaker 4: But I'm so bad at this?

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I drop, but I'm not good. So they

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Speaker 4: Run and I ran. I was good run.

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Speaker 4: No, it's so terrible that there was always kicking out.

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Speaker 4: Go go gole. You're not good at that. That's not fun.

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Speaker 2: How would how would youngs if I feel about the

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's like I can't believe me too, because sometimes

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Speaker 3: I really love my childhood, but I really don't want

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Speaker 4: I don't want to believer my OLYMPI paid Dahlia.

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's unbelievable because I never thought I

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Speaker 4: What if I don't have this so that I work

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about that and the level of work that

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Speaker 2: and how did you get through it?

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Speaker 3: The hardest session I have done it I did like

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Speaker 3: And it's just hot, and I was like somewhere in

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Speaker 2: When you're competing, when you're racing, when you get to

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Speaker 2: what is it that that drives you and pushes you

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Speaker 3: The funniest things like I really believe in training, like

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Speaker 4: I just I just keep going.

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Speaker 3: I just don't don't imagine when I'm running I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I feel, you know, just just keep pushing. I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I love that. So you're the only athlete

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Speaker 2: winning the Marathon of Paris, you became the only woman

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Speaker 2: to win Olympic gold in five ten and marathon races.

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Speaker 2: What drives you to be great?

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Speaker 3: I did most of the curiosity, and and like I said,

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Speaker 3: like most of the time, I'm scared for things. If

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: I kind of like you're telling child, don't do They

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Speaker 4: It make me.

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Speaker 3: I think I have a lot of dopey really is

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Speaker 4: Is one person possible. Let me tries possible.

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Speaker 3: That's how I think CreaCity And they think I'm scared

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Speaker 4: When I'm scared. I see my support. I learn from that.

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Speaker 3: Actually I care about it, That's why I'm scaredy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. What is your proudest moment in

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Speaker 3: Uh, Paris Marato.

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Speaker 4: Really that's fun, I say, most a problem moment.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: It means to me everything because I like I always

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Speaker 3: like negative thought, this scared or do why you did this?

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Speaker 3: But I didn't listen and I just I dare to

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Speaker 3: It's okay you have money, thought, you have money, dogs

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Speaker 2: Though. I love that. Who has had the biggest impact

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Speaker 3: It depends like as a person it is my mom.

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Speaker 3: But as the sport when the old generations have a

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Speaker 4: I like to read somebody, every people.

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Speaker 3: Whatever the succeeds, the success people have really a lot

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Speaker 3: Oh the fell Australia the ten thousands twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: fell though, yeah I think, but like how I didn't

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Speaker 5: I have sexy medical Okay, this is what it is.

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Speaker 4: And then just move forward.

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Speaker 3: Also the time when I felt like it takes me

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Speaker 3: You know, I turned myself. I'm not die in my teeth.

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Speaker 3: No break my leg is no break. I actually look

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Speaker 4: But you shouldn't think, oh, what it happen.

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Speaker 3: You should say it could be worst, So we make

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Speaker 3: You know, after six weeks I run the fastest marat

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Speaker 3: or the second fastest marathon and.

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Speaker 2: History amazing, yeah amazing. How do you shift your mind

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Speaker 2: How do you shift your mindset to prepare for each

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Speaker 4: Most of the time I try to.

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Speaker 3: No celebrates the one I will because if they celebrate,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be happy? But when I will, I

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Speaker 3: I remember twenty twenty one, I was really good at

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Speaker 3: I want fifty hundred meters. I was actually that I

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's what might besure. Just warming up.

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Speaker 2: I hope you have many years left. But when you

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Speaker 2: do eventually retire, what do you hope is your legacy

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Speaker 2: that you leave.

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Speaker 3: I want to sell. I want to legacy as to

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Speaker 3: the cure or to younger people. Of course life, you

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Speaker 3: don't give up. Always taxt step by step text step

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Speaker 4: Try to be good.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they don't don't follow bad bad footsteak, and I don't.

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Speaker 3: Also think doesn't work, look it for another, and I

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Speaker 3: look it for add the way to lose, to search

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Speaker 3: the solution, how to solve the problem. Just don't like

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Speaker 3: you try this way doesn't work, Try other way, don't

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Speaker 4: Do work or something? Try to be crey, try to be,

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Speaker 3: Just just try first money way to succeed and learn

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Speaker 3: more whatever you do. Learn always. I think learn it

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Speaker 3: try to learn myself. Teach myself always how I'm gonna larn,

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Speaker 3: doesn't need to learn. You need to learn more and more.

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Speaker 3: Keep learning because you're gonna improve. And ask always how

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Speaker 3: you're going to improve yourself? Everything. Be the best of yourself.

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Speaker 4: You don't you. I cannot be you, you cannot be me,

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Speaker 4: but you can be the best of yourself.

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Speaker 3: You know. For example, some people come to me, they say, oh,

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Speaker 4: It's hard for yourself. I ask to say, Yeah, that's enough.

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Speaker 3: It's as long it's hard for you, as long you

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Speaker 3: improve yourself, that's matter. You always don't see yourself where

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Speaker 3: improves us all and everybody happen is on positive, it's

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Speaker 3: on negative. Everybody's somewhere greatness, somewhere weakneds. So like what

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Speaker 3: you have, I don't have it. Maybe you are something

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Speaker 3: better un than me. I'm better than you.

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Speaker 4: It is different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. That's amazing. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your time. I've admired you from a far, so

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Speaker 2: it's a real honor for me to have the chance

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Speaker 2: to sit down with you today. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: so far, Thank you so much, Thanks so much for listening.

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