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Speaker 1: So we learned last week a study by u WA

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Speaker 1: concluded legalizing cannabis could make w way two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year. And tell us more, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Brian Walker, who's from legalized Cannabis WA and is a doctor,

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Speaker 1: is joining us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, morning, doctor, good morning. How are you both?

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Speaker 1: They good?

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Speaker 2: Very well.

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Speaker 1: Now this is not a joke. This is something that

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Speaker 1: could have so many far reaching effects, couldn't it legalizing

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Speaker 1: cannabis socially, financially, economically, and of course medically, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hugely. But my whole passionate about wellness, financial, mental, social,

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Speaker 2: and of course physical. So this all fits together. It's

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Speaker 2: that the government hasn't listened to all the good scientific advice.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they'll listen to the financial advice.

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Speaker 1: You would hope not. I mean, what who turns down

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars a year?

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Speaker 2: Well, we going apparently.

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Speaker 1: I've always thought, why wouldn't you just take control of it?

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Speaker 1: And I mean they love a tax, don't they, So

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they? You know, here here's something on a plate.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's so much more than just the tax money

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Speaker 2: or the savings or the earnings you can get from this.

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Speaker 2: It could transform society. Is a takeaway the worries about THC.

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Speaker 2: We could open up the whole hemp industry and that

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Speaker 2: is twenty times more valuable than the cannabis industry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the benefit of people's healthy. Yeah, Doc, This is

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Speaker 3: the line as Lisa and I spoke about this last week,

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Speaker 3: the line that says it's estimated Australia, so the whole

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Speaker 3: nation spends roughly one point one billion annually in the

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Speaker 3: effort to eradicate cannabis. It's that word, to eradicate. Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's still everywhere it's doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, eleven percent of the population w is a regular

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Speaker 2: user of cannabis. Yeah, that's a lot of us. It

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Speaker 2: is a lot.

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Speaker 3: It is big percentage of population.

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Speaker 1: It is that says such a way, So a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: It is almost a year since you know, as you

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Speaker 1: said premium, mart McGowan rejected a proposal to legalize cannabis,

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Speaker 1: saying having freely available cannabis is not our policy. Has

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Speaker 1: anything progressed in the last year since you made that statement,

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Speaker 1: because things are changing at a fairly decent place now

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Speaker 1: around the world.

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Speaker 2: Not a thing has changed he's adamantly a paused. Most

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Speaker 2: of his members actually would support the idea of legalizing cannabis,

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Speaker 2: but Mague and the few of his chosen ones are

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Speaker 2: apposing it.

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Speaker 3: Brad, you feel like sometimes you're bashing against the brick

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Speaker 3: wall and you just kept to keep soldiering on.

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Speaker 2: Look, we knew that that was going to be the

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Speaker 2: problem all along. That's not a problem. We just have

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Speaker 2: to keep dripping away in that stone and it will change.

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Speaker 2: It. It isn't inevitable. It must change. The scientific evidence is awverlwhelming,

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Speaker 2: the financial evidence is averwhelming. Why not it is?

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Speaker 1: I think I've felt that it's inevitable for a while,

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Speaker 1: so we may as well be first, you know, we

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Speaker 1: may as well get that. I mean, there would be

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Speaker 1: a tourism benefit as well if we were first one there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, well, there's even plans here for a cannabis

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Speaker 2: healing park to be made that people can come there

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Speaker 2: to recover, because do you know, the end cannabinoid system

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Speaker 2: that we all have helps to balance the body, and

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Speaker 2: there's a sister there's a syndrome there of endocannabinoid deficiency.

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Speaker 2: It balances the body and we can do so many

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Speaker 2: good things for our wellness. And so look, Olivia Newton

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Speaker 2: John was a champion of this. Follow her example.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, what do you think, doctor, is the biggest

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Speaker 1: misconception with regards to if cannabis was legalized?

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem is why was a band in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Not a single scientific and medical reason was

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Speaker 2: given to that. It was all political, It was all

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Speaker 2: racist and xenophobic. So now we're trying to give scientific

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Speaker 2: justification for reversing an incorrect ban cannabis. I mentioned this

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Speaker 2: actually last week. We've got four things tobacco, alcohol, sugar,

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Speaker 2: and cannabis, and all those four cannabis is the safest

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 1: They're all a bit addictive.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I want to talk about the dreaded blot patter

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Speaker 3: that happens to be sugar. Yeah, Doc, what about the money?

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Speaker 3: I believe you got some merch on the website you

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Speaker 3: like Simmons of Kiss Miken have been colin. Where does

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Speaker 3: that go for the t shirts and the coffees, the

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Speaker 3: tiny leaf gear?

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Speaker 2: Well, it goes actually to supporting the legalized cannabis re

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Speaker 2: election campaign.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, okay, we.

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Speaker 2: Really need we need to awaken the people, and to

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Speaker 2: be honest, you need to have funds to do that,

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Speaker 2: because most people just take what there's been put out

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Speaker 2: in the main seam press that is, cannabis is bad,

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Speaker 2: cannabis is doing just none of that is true. And

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Speaker 2: as a passionate and medical practitioner, I'm all about wellness.

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Speaker 2: Banning cannabis actually leaves us open to things like alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Just yesterday in my clinic, I was discussing with a

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Speaker 2: colleague about a lady there who is desperately ill with

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Speaker 2: alcohol and will not stop. She will die and she

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Speaker 2: will die soon, and it's an avoidable death. We have

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Speaker 2: too much, six and a half thousand deaths year in Australia.

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Speaker 2: We must stop.

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Speaker 1: It's always amazed me that alcohol is perhaps the one

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Speaker 1: drug that you just cannot go cold turkey off without

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Speaker 1: the risk of without the risk of dying. And I

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Speaker 1: think that there are so many things that come along

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Speaker 1: with alcohol that don't come along with cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Well, that one point five billion I mentioned, you see,

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Speaker 2: that's just the tip of the icebreak. What would happen

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Speaker 2: if we didn't have domestic violence?

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Speaker 1: While its fatal car crashes, it goes on and on

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Speaker 1: and on. Now it's been two years since you were

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Speaker 1: elected to parliament. Did you celebrate with a special cake?

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Speaker 2: Were a few weeks ago living the dream? Well, we

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Speaker 2: met up. We met it with five for the MPs.

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Speaker 2: We've got two, he in w A two and Victoria

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Speaker 2: one the New South Wales. We're not actually a team.

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Speaker 2: That's great, these are.

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Speaker 1: These would be a good conference.

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Speaker 2: Dr Walker.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm sure that you know, sort of rational

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Speaker 1: thinking will prevail in the end. And it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: same sex marriage. You don't have to do it just

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Speaker 1: because it's being if it's legalized, benefits. Yeah, just let

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Speaker 1: me ask if we did, if and when we do

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Speaker 1: legalize it, would we have a similar setup to other

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Speaker 1: countries where there would be specialist dispense reason it would

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Speaker 1: all be controlled once another reason why it would be

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Speaker 1: you know, handy to know what's what's being.

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Speaker 2: This is the beauty, This is the beauty of legalizing cannabis.

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Speaker 2: You can regulate, regulate exactly indeed, and there's different ways

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Speaker 2: of doing it, and we haven't yet found the best

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Speaker 2: way of doing it. Look at Malta, look at Germany

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Speaker 2: that we're doing it, Canada, America, different states in America,

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Speaker 2: it's all different. We need to find the best to

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Speaker 2: put and I do think we in w W can

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Speaker 2: make the best shot of it because we've got the

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Speaker 2: evidence elsewhere and we can put our plans into into practice.

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Speaker 2: I think we can be the best in the world.

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Speaker 2: And they're also the best cannabis growing country in the world.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, And never mind the small crime kind

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Speaker 1: of you know thing that it would eradicate, freeing up

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Speaker 1: our police to you know, work on more important things.

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Speaker 2: Want that. There's a lot of reason we can hear yea.

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Speaker 3: And of course, as you said, spreading the word is

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Speaker 3: not japed beyond the mindstream media. But best of luck with.

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Speaker 1: It well, doctor Walker, thank you very much for joining

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Speaker 1: us this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure you take care of Bore you too,