WEBVTT - Attraction - Is it a "grower" or a "shower"?! 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.800 Hi, guys, Emma, welcome back to another episode of Life 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.000 One Cut. I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and I have 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.520 some good news. Well, I mean it's good news for me, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.720 maybe not for Brittany, but it's kind of good news 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.839 for you guys as well. What's the good news. Am 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:34.479 I in on this good news? Am I privy to 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.080 this information? Well, you just told me about the good news, 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.199 at which I mean you have emotional and sad wid 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.160 blash from it. But I'm excited. Brittany is like ninety 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.760 nine point nine percent getting a flight back to Sydney. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.080 She's going to come and join us in this hell hole, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.559 which do you know what? Originally when BRIT's trip was booked, 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.840 she was only supposed to be going for six weeks 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.040 to you know, go spend some time, fall in love, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.600 run around, frolic, be nude, and obviously, because state of 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.319 affairs that we're all in, it extended, Brick couldn't get 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.960 a flight back. But she's just brought me the good news, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.440 and that is that sooner rather than later, we won't 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.800 have to do these recordings and zoom recordings, and I'll 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.120 be able to touch you and get all up in 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.520 your one point five meters space. I don't actually know 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:17.400 if this is good news or not. Like a part 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.920 of me is a bit bittersweet. Part of me is 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.080 the tiniest bit happy. I'm like, you know what, I 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.119 am ready. I'm ready to come home, do life face 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.240 to face again, get back into normal life, get back 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.520 to my apartment, get back to a little bit of 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.600 routine and not staying up all night so I can 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.600 work on Australian time. But the other part of me, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.520 I'm like, fuck, like, I'm over here with the love 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.920 of my life and I'm having a great old time 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.440 and I don't want to leave him again. So it's 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.080 definitely gonna be a bittersweet and I'm definitely, like you 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.520 just said, I'm gonna have some real emotional whiplash when 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.720 I get back. But that's for future, Brittany. Tomorrow's problems 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.760 are Tomorrow's problems. But also, I don't know if people 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.440 necessarily know you and Jordan have actually only spent quite 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.720 a small amount of time face to face prior to 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.520 this trip. So it was like this time that you 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.760 guys got to have trip. It was the make or break. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.080 It was what was either going to galvanize the relationship 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.440 or it was going to be that real one or 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.160 one time where you were like, oh, long distance Jordan 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.160 is better than face to face Jordan, kill each other. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.560 I like FaceTime Jordan. I like the one where we 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.320 just sex. No, but it's like for you guys that 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.840 don't know the timeline, Jordan and I met, fell in 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.880 love very quickly, saw each other every day, but it 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.320 was probably only for about three months, give will take 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.519 a week. Then he left and he was away for 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.840 three to four months before I saw him again. Then 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.600 I was only supposed to come back here for six weeks, 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.240 so I don't supposed to be with him for six weeks, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.080 So we ended up spending more time apart than we 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.760 had together. So this five weeks that I was coming 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.800 over to see in was really really important, And the 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.519 fact that I ended up getting stuck here, I guess 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.520 was a little bit of a blessing in disguise, because 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.760 we were able to spend some really good time together. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.320 We were able to be like, you know, is this legit? 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.080 Is this fucking real? Are we really going to do this? 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:53.520 Though? 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.680 Imagine if you'd gotten there, you got stuck there, and 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.040 then you realize you didn't like him, Like this was 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.919 the perfect come from this situation. But it could have 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.760 gone very very badly. It really could have. And I'm 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.760 sure there are plenty of people that that has happened to. 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.920 But I mean I actually thought about that. I was like, 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.040 what if I do get stuck here for six months? 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.800 Who knows? I mean, that could happen and it didn't 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.480 work out, And I just thought, you know what, I 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.200 would just I would be so fine on my own. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.720 I'd probably just go on cruise off somewhere. He's not 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.079 the sort of person that would ever throw me under 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.800 a bus. He would look after me at the same point, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.320 So like I wasn't overly worried about There's always somewhere 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.560 to go, there's always something to do. But yeah, look guys, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.880 it is a happy ending for now. But when I 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.880 come home again, I don't know what I'm going to 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.680 see him again. He might not even be back this year. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.320 He might not be back till next year, and even 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.400 then we're not sure. If the Australian Open goes ahead, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.960 he'll come back. But what we're facing is probably for 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:43.840 the next five or six years if we stay together, 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.760 is like six months apart at a time. It's pretty insane. 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.840 So well, and I think as well that there's so 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.320 many people who have been in your situation in the past, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.640 like you know, two years, especially because of this COVID situation, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.600 Like there are so many people who have had and 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.440 been forced into doing long distance from their partners, or 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.920 even if they haven't done long distance, they've been forced 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.840 into making some really radical decisions about their relationship that's 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.760 either fast tracked it and then they're now in the 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.880 same place, or they've had to do this pro long 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.280 time apart. So I know that we've been saying this 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.480 for ages, but there is there is such an episode 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.080 in long distance and managing long distance, and now you've 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.640 got some real first hand experience, because my long distance 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.240 experience was not a good one. So I think it's 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.279 really great that you have been able to manage this 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.400 in a way and be able to keep the spark 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.080 alive and to be able to like not have jealousy 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.600 creep in or all the other things that can sometimes 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:39.279 like rear its ugly head in long distance relationships. And yeah, guys, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.120 there's an episode in this coming. I know we've been 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.120 saying this for a while now, but now she's well 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.000 and truly versed in it. Yeah, I just needed a 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.000 bit more experience, but I'm good to come back and 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.560 do it. But Laura, I was thinking today. I was like, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.120 I cannot believe. I actually cannot believe that we're in September. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.599 Like I feel like it was yesterday that we were like, well, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.640 welcome to the new year. It's twenty twenty one. It's September, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.840 coming towards the end of the year, which is bonkers. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.840 But do you know what September is? No, But I 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.680 know that you, like you think that this year has 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.520 gone fast, and I feel like it's been the slowest 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.839 year of my fucking life. I haven't slept in seven months. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.600 Guys like I am, yeah, wow, Well, I mean that's 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.159 self inflicted. You keep reproducing. I just think it's weird 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.640 that I was like pregnant in January and had a baby, 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.719 and now that child is crawling and has two teeth 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.320 like I. For me, NAP does not feel like a 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.919 fast year at all. Feels like the year that's never ending. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.960 But before we get any further, today's episode is brought 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.880 to you by our sponsor, which is Dermavine. So we 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.480 just want to say a very big thank you to them, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.719 and Dermavine is a product that gets a very good 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.839 nudge in our household with dry, scaly, crusty little kiddies. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.680 They have some amazing skincare products. And I don't know 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.120 about you, but with the change of season and coming 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.480 out of winter, my skin is so dry and crusty. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.680 But speaking of a change of seasons, do you know 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.440 what September is, Laura, I do know what you're getting at. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.400 I know what September is. September is soft launch September, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.679 because we're going to talk about this soft launch September, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.320 and I have a few feelings. Okay, for anyone who 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.920 doesn't know what a soft launch is and what we're 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.800 talking about right now, a soft launch is when you 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.440 might see someone on social media and maybe it's a 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.320 famous person, maybe it's an influencer. Hell maybe it's just 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.400 your friend and they're in a new relationship or they've 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.279 just started seeing guy or a girl or whoever, and 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.920 instead of coming out and being like, this is my boyfriend, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.720 this is my new partner, they do a soft launch. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.800 They might just post a picture of their dog, or 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.719 they might just post a picture of their hand or 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.200 maybe like a bit of their side arm as they're 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.599 holding hands on the couch. There's a lot of different 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.520 ways that you can soft launch a new part of 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.520 what a soft launch is. It's a tease. It's a tease. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.960 It's a way to build anticipation. It's the way to 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.159 get people talking about, oh my god, did you see 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.919 Laura had a new boyfriend? Or something's definitely going on. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:58.960 There's something there, but we can't find out who. It's 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.039 a way for people to be like I'm gonna tease this, 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.040 but I'm not sure when I'm gonna drop the actual bomb. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.680 And it can be as small and minute as like 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.200 two glasses in the photo, like two wine glasses, and 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.920 then there's no person in it. It's just you eat 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.240 the two glasses and you're like, had the best night. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.280 It's like shit like that where you're like, oh my god, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.160 who did she have the best night? With? You tap 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.480 on the picture. There's no tag on there, there's nothing. 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.560 It just leaves you wanting more. And then a week 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.560 later there might be like an elbow, like someone else's 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.440 elbow in the frame and you're like, slowly it's driving 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.720 you insane and you want to know more than ever. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.600 And it's gone to the point where there are so 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.920 many comedians that have taken the piers. It's gone pretty 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.560 viral on social media, so they have given it its 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.280 own month, which is soft launch September. Nola, How do 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.600 you feel about a soft launch? Mat? I have so 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.160 many feelings about this, and also I feel like one 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.000 of them is me going to be criticizing you because 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.840 I know that you are partial to a soft launch brute, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.960 and I am not. No, hang on, I actually am not. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.120 I have had friends that have soft launch lunch friends 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.400 and non friends, and I fucking hate it, Like I'm like, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.440 why are you doing this? I actually never soft launch. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.160 You soft launched, Jordan? No, I didn't. This is a 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.200 common no. I did. Were lying. We din'd have a 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.640 fight on the podcast everyone. I know why you think 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.200 I did, but I didn't. The way that Jordan came 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.400 about was I didn't soft launch because it actually like, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.200 whilst has pardon me? That sort of wanted to start 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.080 to show him before I knew that, I was ready 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.320 to say, Hey, I'm committed to this person. I was 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.320 doing a Q and A on my Instagram and I 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.120 was answering loads of questions and somebody said to me, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.360 show us a time you were happy. So I put 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.320 a picture up with Jordan. It could have been anywhere 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.000 you couldn't see his face. It was just a time 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.440 I was happy. That was it. That was my soft launch. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.200 I didn't say it was now. I didn't say it's current. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.120 I didn't say I am happy. Don't raise your hand 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.200 at me like you're in a classroom. I I'm finished, Okay. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.280 I have so many things to say to this, which 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.480 are like, Brittany, you can live in a delusional land 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.480 and you can tell yourself that that's not what you did. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.640 The reason why that is not true is because this 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.520 was New Year's you're away, you're out, you're on holidays, 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.319 and Jordan came to see you, and you had been 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.280 posting photos which were by the pool and in that area. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.760 So everyone who follows you knew that it was a 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.520 current photo because it was taken in the same area 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.960 that you had been posting photos the day before. It 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.240 was a photo that only showed half of his face 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.360 and the guy's sock tan no no face, no face, Yeah, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.880 there was no face. Everyone who saw it was like 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.520 even The Daily Mail was like, who is Brittany with 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.720 So you can convince yourself that you didn't soft launch Jordan, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.680 but you did, Okay, so in my I can see, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.240 I can see when in my defense, it was never 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.960 an intentional soft launch. It was like, in all honesty, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.679 it was a lot someone says, show me when you've 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.760 been happy. It was the last time I could remember 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.680 that i'd actually been happy, and I was so happy. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.000 So I was like, cool, this is going to answer 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.199 that question. No part of me thought that this was 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.520 a soft launch. Otherwise I would have said had the 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:55.040 best time at the bottom, like it feels so nice 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.720 to be falling in love, and then just like really ambiguous. Okay. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.280 There are a few influences who I have noticed are 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.240 very partial to a soft launch. Bella, who was un 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.760 Lucky Season I have noticed, and I've followed Bella for 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.960 a long time, like you know, we've been friends, but 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.840 I have noticed it over the years that she loves 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.560 a soft launch. Ruby Tuesday Matthews also partial to a 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.640 soft launch. Now, I mean, like, live your best life. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.720 You can do whatever you want on your social media. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.560 The reason why I find a soft launch weird, I 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.800 guess is because it's not so much about the person 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.559 and their relationship, it's about the followers and their reaction 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.880 to the relationship, and so like, if we're supposed to unpackwater. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.640 Soft launch is The term soft launch comes from something 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.560 that businesses do when you're trialing a new product, or 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.440 you're trialing like a new service to market, and you'll 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.080 do a soft launch on that product in order to 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.720 garner your customer's feedback. Right, it's advertising. You're like building suspense. Yeah, 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.079 so you're like, okay, so you're like trying to garner 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.760 feedback on a product or you're building suspense. How can 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.959 that then be related to a boyfriend? Like the only 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.680 reason why people are doing it is in order to 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.960 create suspense, in order to like create a hype around 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.720 their interests in their own personal love life. And I 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.760 just think it's a little bit self indulgent. Oh it's 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.360 completely self indulgent. Okay, good around. It's like we're completely 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.000 taking our personal branding way too seriously, That's what it is. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.640 Why do you think people give a fuck who you're 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.840 dating or who you're not dating. I just think it's 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.679 I mean, I think that's actually oh my god, Brittany, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.440 you are so partial to a soft launch. This is 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.840 killing me. Hang on, who else I've never I'm dating 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.280 in ten years? Who are I soft launch? Okay? Everyone, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.040 Britta and I actually kind of dated the same guy 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.520 mini years apart. Ha ha, that was not a soft launch. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.400 I saw him like twice. I used to call him 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.640 Man Mountain because this guy was literally like a man 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.560 you could climb. He was so attractive, but he was 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.720 also did you try like white bread? Which actually leads 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.120 us so well into this episode for today we're talking 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.720 about attraction. But okay, this guy Man Mountain, he was 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.520 so hot. He was literally whitebread though the most boring 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.040 He's beautiful, Yeah, boring. Man. He was so hot that 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.240 he never had to try and be interesting. That's how 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.800 I That's how I described him. You know those people 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.720 that like roll out of bed, don't even put shoes on, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.280 and just walk down for a swim and you're like, 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.000 holy shit, you are so hot. That was what he 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.360 was like. And now Laura and I didn't know that 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.959 each other day did the same guy. I just came 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.800 up in conversation one day, like if we were just 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.680 talking about I was like, I've dated someone similar to that, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.800 and then we started talking about everything about him and 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.240 he's like this was like this sounds very familiar. Figured 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.480 out we dated the same person, but you dated him 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.480 way more seriously than I did. I hung out with 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.280 him like twice, but Brittany started sharing photos of his 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.079 dog on her stories and I was like, holy shit, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.319 it's a fucking man Mountain soft launch. Here we are, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.319 Laura and I are zooming right now, and I'm pretending 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.520 to massivate to the phone's work because I'm like, get 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.960 get as I did not solft launch him. We So 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.640 what happened was we literally hung out like twice, and 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.400 then I was it was not going anywhere. We were 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.760 not interested, but we're to this day still friends, and 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.120 he had a really cute dog, so we kept hanging out. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.760 I put photos on the dog. That is not a 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.240 soft launch. You obviously don't know how to soft launch 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.240 if you think that as a soft launche Laura, but 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.960 I did. Look, I can see how people think I 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.720 soft launched Jordan, but that sort of like makes me 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.280 feel a little bit unwell because I'm not fond of 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.760 the soft launch. So that was an unintentional soft launch. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.760 I think you guys need to just like back off 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.000 me a little bit now. Yes, Laurie, put your hand 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.800 up again. Sorry I had my hand up. It's really 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.600 hard on zoom because we can't talk over the top 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.679 of each other. Okay, I have one more thing to say. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.600 And this is like playing Devil's advocate here. I know 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.160 I went in hard and I said that it's like 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.520 a very like self indulgent thing to do, to do 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.800 a soft launch. I do also think it comes from 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.800 a place of being very excited about being in a 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.760 new relationship and like having this connection with someone, but 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.920 obviously the relationship not being progressed enough to be able 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:44.800 to share it. I think that if you find yourself 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.080 doing a soft launch, and the intention isn't so much 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.040 to bait your audience, because like, for example, I'm sure 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.760 people do it who don't have huge followings, so their 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 intention isn't to be like to their friends, Hey, look 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.240 at who I may or may not be dating. I 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.480 think that sometimes people do this idea of a soft 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.520 launch more so because they're so excited about this person, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.920 but the definition and the parameters around the relationship is ambiguous, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.520 and they're not comfortable with being like, hey, here's an 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.480 intimate photo of my partner because the person's not their partner, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.760 so they don't want to like seem as though that 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.439 they're over eager or give the person the wrong impression. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.160 But they also want to be able to share this 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.720 really special time and how excited they are about this person, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.120 and so doing a soft launch. I guess it doesn't 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.920 always have to be as self indulgent as what I'm saying. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.760 For anybody out there who's done it and feels personally 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.840 victimized by me right now, there is another side to 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.440 this that I can completely appreciate as well, Like we 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.000 take the piers and we have a laugh, and like 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.720 as I said, I've just sort of done it in 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.680 the past. Whilst I don't love seeing people do it, 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.920 there isn't anything wrong with it. It's exactly what you 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.680 just said, is right, Laura. Sometimes you want to share 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.360 moments of your life without completely exposing yourself as well. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.440 So you might want to share a really fun moment 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.960 at a friend's party or engagement or whatever. You're there 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.120 with this person that you're seeing. You want to take 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.560 a photo, but you're not ready to say I think 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.600 i'm seeing this person or Hey, this is the person 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.920 in my life right now, so your soft launch, and 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.280 I think that's absolutely fine. And you know, a lot 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.360 of celebrities, a lot of famous people, and the big 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.320 people with big followings, I think for them it comes 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.440 down to privacy too. They want to share that they're 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.000 happy and in love, they want to share that they're 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.239 off the market, but they're not ready to be bombarded 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.200 with articles and interests and paparazzi and things like that. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:23.840 So I think that's why the big dogs do it. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.920 See I think for me, that's the one point of 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.360 this that I don't agree with. I don't think that 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.320 the big dogs, I ease, celebrities and influencers do it 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.600 because they're wanting to create ambiguity or they're not wanting 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.920 people to be talking or have that interest. The problem 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.960 is is I think that they actually do it because 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.040 they are trying to drum up their audience. They're trying 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.800 to create engagement, They're trying to create commenting and hype. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.640 I actually am more suspicious when influencers and celebrities do 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.360 it because I think that there is it's really a 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.280 gender and motive driven. So for example, Kendall Jenner recently 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.240 did a soft launch of some guy that she's seeing, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.280 and yeah, sure, the articles aren't about the guy and 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.000 his name, but the articles are all about the fact 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.240 that she's doing a soft launch. Everyone's like, who is he? 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.160 And so then the followers, who are super engaged go 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.840 into overdrive trying to figure out who this person might be. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.320 I think the hype is even greater, and it's more 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.840 intrusive because there's this element of like, I'm not letting 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.760 you know this, but I'm going to give you just enough. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.800 I'm going to give you a nugget to keep you guessing. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.800 So I think that it's far more tactical when an influencer, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.000 a celebrity does it than just say someone who has 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.960 a smaller social media following, who maybe is just doing 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.400 it because they're not comfortable yet to share their life 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.920 with their friends or their family. Yeah. Look, I think 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.040 you've been a bit pessimistic. I think we need to 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.440 give the big dogs the benefit of the doubt in 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.280 some cases, like one hundred percent what you've said is true. No, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.480 I am being a realist, and it's just because you 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.920 are feeling threatened. I feel so I feel so attacked. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.800 But no, while we're talking about the soft launch of relationships, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.720 the antithesis of a soft launch of a relationship, you 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.960 can actually soft launch your way back into single them. 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.800 Have you seen that or have you where all of 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.200 a sud maybe you've been following someone right you know 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.040 they're single, you can you can. I mean, like, let's 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.600 be real, we can all tell someone's posts from when 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.720 they're single. You know, if someone's single from their graham, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.520 then all of a sudden, they've soft launched their boyfriend. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.800 They're in love, everything's loved up. You know that they're happy. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.600 You can tell once that relationship's broken up because the 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.119 soft launch to singletoon starts, and whether you want to 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.760 believe it or not, we're at a point in our 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:29.159 generation where social media, it is like a CV is 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.560 what friends look at, it's what perspective lovers look at, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.560 people online dating, it's what prospective employers look at. Like 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.439 you you get for a job, now people go and 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.679 search you. It is everything. So it's really important if 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.919 you're all of a sudden single, to be like, hey, guys, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.200 don't forget I'm single. So people soft launch their way 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.199 back into singletom. And I think that starts with like 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.360 a couple of little bikini photos, you know, a couple 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.520 of wild nights out drinking with your friends. You can 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.320