WEBVTT - Talking Myers Briggs - Unpacking personality types 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.360 Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:22.799 un Cut. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.200 I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and this is Thursday. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.360 But don't be fooled. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.480 This is our big, meaty, juicy, sexy Tuesday episode because 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.800 you know, we love to pool a little switcherooni, and 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.519 we did have to do that this week. But it 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.960 is Thursday. We're doing our Tuesday episode and we have 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.960 a really really great fun episode for you today, but 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.920 we'll get into that a little later. How are you, Laura, Well, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.640 today it's my four year wedding. No, I'm not married, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.879 you're not hen't married. There is my four year bachelor anniversary. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.720 Oh so the finale anniversary. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.920 Today is the day that I was standing sweating my 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.520 balls off in Thailand and Matt said, I. 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:01.920 Want to spend the rest of my life with you, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:03.760 and then I cried. That was today, the day he 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.880 chose you out of twenty five women. And you know 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.400 how we remember that today is the day. Let me guess, 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.920 don't don't actually tell me. There had to have been 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.120 some sort of memory pop up on Facebook or something 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.039 like you would have both forgotten. I know you both. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:21.280 Osha sent us a text message Osher. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.200 I woke up to a message from Osher this morning. 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.920 He was like, happy anniversary, guys, And you're like, say, 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.280 anniversary of what completely completely forgot. But you know what, 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:31.920 I'm just really glad that Matt and I, you know, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.560 we took things slow. We didn't rush into anything. We 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.640 really got to know each other before we committed to 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.800 things and totally lived together, two kids, engaged. Yeah, it 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.360 all happened really quickly, and here we are four years 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:44.240 later and two children. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.880 See, obviously, if you both forgot, you haven't done anything special. Well. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.120 I came home from work today and I thought maybe 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.480 Matt would have cleaned the house. Like Matt knows if 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.160 he really wants to get me going, if he wants 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:54.559 to turn. 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:56.880 Me off, hold them towns, Matt, you vacuum outlo a 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.920 load of laundry. Tell me about how you're going to 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.920 sterilize the floor. Baby, it's some softenering and she's yours. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:07.960 So I it's been pretty soft these days. So I 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.440 expected to come home and have a clean house. But 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.360 I came home that was at the gym, and there 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.480 was a bunch of flowers perched on top of all 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:15.360 of the dirty washing. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.120 That was that was like, thanks, Pal, I love you too. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.800 He's like, Babe, I've gone to bulk for you. I've 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:21.960 got to get bigger at the gym. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.800 Well, I called him and I was like, I'm assuming 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.480 that the flowers that are hero from you and that 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.240 they're from me. And he was like, oh shit, you 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.000 got home before me. Yes, they're for you. He's like, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:30.640 I was also going to do the washing. I didn't 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.880 intentionally leave it on top of the washing, but in retrospect, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.560 maybe that's what I can do for him for anniversary 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:37.760 since I've done nothing yet. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:39.840 But anyway, No, you do his washing every day, he 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:41.640 can do the washing for you for the anniversary. I 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.359 keep his child alive. Goddamn it. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.679 I'm on a four hour round o'clock schedule right now. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.320 Okay, so that means today's also my anniversary of when 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.120 I was dumped. That but one year later. If you 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.160 want to make it about you, Bret, that's so fine. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.240 He just reminded me that, like if it's a Bachelor 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.200 finale day, it was my dumping anniversary. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.480 Loved that. So on today's episode, we're talking about something 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.079 that we have been teasing for about nine months now. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.639 Actually, we said we're going to do a baby I'm 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.360 not having another one yet. We did say we were 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.600 going to do an episode on this ages ago when 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.040 we did the attachment theory episode and also when we 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.200 did Conflict Resolutions, which are two of my favorite episodes. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.040 I think like we don't get to sit down and 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.000 just kind of hash it out very often anymore. We've 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.320 been doing a lot of interviews lately, so we thought 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.040 we would sit down and do this episode all around 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.440 Mayers Briggs personality test and how different types of personality 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.960 types better relate to each other in dating and just 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.400 in your normal day to day interactions. And I know 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:38.760 that Mayers Briggs is something that you guys have probably 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.280 heard about when it comes to workplace and when it 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.800 comes to like finding the best person for the job, 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:48.120 but it also has some really key indications throughout relationships 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.640 as well. So we again to unpack that and I 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.200 bet you could guess whether we're introverted or extraverted. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.000 What do you reckon? Well, we're not telling you yet, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.200 so you can hold the line. Let's dissect that little 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.920 bit later. And we're also made our partners, Jordan and Matt, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.320 we also made them do it so we're going to 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.720 talk about that as well. Look, one thing I did 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.480 want to sort of dissect with you, Laura. I want 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.440 your opinion on it, because I've been reading a lot 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.680 about it. It's this whole Chrissy Teagan, Courtney Stotten tweeting 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.320 the mean tweets. Are we canceling Chrissy Tegan? So I 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.480 want to know what your thoughts are. And let's if 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:23.960 you guys haven't heard about it, let's give you a 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.839 quick background. Chrissy Teagan is currently everywhere in the media, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.920 but for the wrong reason. Now, we as a society 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.200 mainly have been loving Chrissy Teagan for the last you know, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.440 five six seven years. She's come out as someone that's 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.279 really funny and quirky and supportive and like she's very vocal. 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.120 She's had some very vocal thoughts about Donald Trump. You know, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:44.760 she did a song that was like fuck Donald Trump, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:45.640 which I thought was great. 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.159 But she also had an incredibly painful child loss last 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.719 year where she had a stillbirth at twenty one weeks 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.680 and her conversation around that was incredibly so raw and 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.159 real and vulnerable. And I remember seeing that and I 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.599 I was pregnant with Lola at the time and it 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.040 brought me to tears. So there are so many conversations 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.440 that she started across social media that I have really 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.800 felt like. I loved being a part of her social 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.880 media community. But I know where are going with this, Brit. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.719 I'd love you to give a bit more background around 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.800 what has happened and why we are very much sitting 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.480 on the fence when it comes to Chrissy Teagan. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.640 Yeah, and the other thing, just to touch on what 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.679 you just said about her really open, powerful conversation about 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.880 her still birth. She's also been a really big advocate 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.840 in starting the conversations about miscarriages as well, because she 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:29.440 has had a few. So there have been a lot 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.000 of people that have, you know, are singing her praises 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.320 for having these conversations and trying to normalize it, and 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.360 I think it's been absolutely brilliant. And again, like you said, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.040 that was heartbreaking when she released those photos and her 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.760 Instagram messages about the loss of her child. But we're 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.279 going to talk about something a little bit different. So 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.840 in a nutshell, there is a celebrity in America named 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.760 Courtney Stotten. Long story short, Courtney was sixteen years old 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.920 when they sort of came into the spotlight for doing 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.479 some beauty pageants and they're on TV a lot. But 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.080 what really threw them into the limelight was that they 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.760 married someone much older. They married a man that was 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.000 fifty two years old, and that's sort of got a 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.040 lot of people talking, which you know what, it's pretty crazy, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.400 I guess, but ultimately two people feel in love and 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.320 they got married. How this relates to Chrissy Teagan is 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.960 Chrissy Teagan. It has come out that about eleven twelve 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.400 years ago, I think it was twenty eleven when these 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.800 tweets started, and they did go over a few years. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.200 But Courtney has come out and has been really open 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.920 about the tweets that they received from Christi Teagan. These 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.480 tweets and not only tweets, they would direct messages as well. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:37.159 So Chrissy wrote to Courtney's private account some really quite 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.520 vile and I was very surprised when I read them, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.480 really really horrible sort of messages and tweets. 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.960 Well, basically, these tweets are exactly the type of thing 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.520 that when we talk about trolling from reality TV on 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.240 the podcast, and we've spoken about it loads, how a 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.880 lot of people who are kind of in the limelight. 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.760 Have received comments like you should kill yourself, and one 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.080 of the comments that Chrissy Teagan had written to Courtney 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.440 was I want you to go and take a dirt nap, 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.160 which obviously, you know, guys read between the lines, but 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.880 also Courtney has come out and said that there were 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.960 a whole lot of dms, not just saying to take 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.839 a dirt nap, but saying, you know, I can't wait 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.880 for you to die, I want you to kill yourself. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.480 Really horrific stuff that I think if anybody else said it, 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.160 we would have canceled them a long time ago. But 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.720 we do have this allowance for Chrissy Tagan because she 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.000 is such a huge, relatable and lovable force on social media. 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:24.600 And the other part of this as well is that 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.720 this is not the first time that Chrissy Tagan has 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.400 been thrown into the limelight for her very appalling behavior 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.160 when it comes to Twitter and for the things that 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.480 she has said. The thing that we wanted to kind 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.120 of unpack here a little bit is, obviously we've spoken 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.720 before about cancel culture, and we don't subscribe to cancel culture. However, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.200 at what point and for how far back in the past. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.040 Can you allow someone the grievances of being like, Okay, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.440 I was a different person then and I have changed now. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.600 So Chrissy's come out and she said that she's appalled 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.680 for the person that she was back then, that she 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.400 was a troll, and that she's incredibly sorry for the 0:07:58.400 --> 0:07:59.960 things that she said and the things that she did. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.560 And since she has come out and made that public apology, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.200 more celebrities have come out and said, hey, I was 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.080 also a victim of Chrissy Tagan's trolling. And on top 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.640 of that, Courtney has come out and said, well, yes, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.760 she may have made this public statement, but she has 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.360 never actually contacted me privately. No one from her party 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.200 has contacted me privately to make this apology. So now 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:24.160 we don't know where we stand on the Chrissy Tagan debate. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.440 Well so, yeah, and I'm really torn right because let 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.440 me unpack this my own thoughts, and I don't have 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.800 an end goal that I'm going to get to at 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.880 the end of this conversation. Right now, I don't know 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.839 how I feel, but this is me just wanting to 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.280 unpack it and talk to you, Laura. But they're having 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.720 a lot of people that have come out like you said. 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.199 I know there was some really vild tweets that she 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.960 made about Lindsay Lohan, for example, but I want to 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.880 read you what Chrissy Teagan did say publicly. She came 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.120 out and said, not a lot of people are lucky 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.080 enough to be held accountable for all their past bullshit 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.280 in front of the entire world. I'm mortified and sad 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.679 and who I used to be. I was an insecure, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.679 attention seeking troll. I am ashamed and I'm completely embarrassed 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.080 at my behavior. She then went on to say, this 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.280 is nothing compared to how I make Courtney feel. I 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.640 work so hard to give you guys joy and be beloved, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.480 and the feeling of letting you down is nearly unbearable. Truly, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.760 these were not my only mistakes, and surely they will 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.559 not be my last, as hard as I try, but god, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:19.319 I will try. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.400 One thing from that that I just want to kind 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.040 of that literally just sprung to me as you read that, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.720 Britt is to say not many people are lucky enough 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.280 to have all of their past mistakes. I feel like 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.240 that that's almost a very like backhanded comment to make, 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.040 because I don't actually genuinely believe that anybody would feel 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.280 grateful or lucky that their personal mistakes from the past 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:40.839 are being brought to light. I feel like that that's 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.800 a really underhanded way of making an apology and starting 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.160 it out. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.640 No, I think she's Actually I'm a bit torn because 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.360 I sort of took that as I think she's being sarcastic. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:50.000 That's what I mean. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.240 Oh yeah, yeah, I'm saying I think she's being sarcastic. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.040 I think she's being underhanded in that apology, which for 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.640 me almost sets me on a back foot. I'm like, Okay, yeah, totally. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.800 You were held to a different set of standards because 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.160 you are a celebrity, But do you know what, you 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.560 were also a celebrity at the time. Maybe you weren't 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.840 as big or prolific as a celebrity as you are now. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.120 You're still in the public eye and there is still 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.160 an accountability And even if you weren't in the public eye, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.080 that doesn't give you right to say these things to 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.520 someone else. And I'm straddling this one, hardcore guys, because. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:22.320 Saying I'm straddling that fence, I am on that fence. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.800 And that's because, on one hand, I think Britta and 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.160 I we both agree that we do allow for growth, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.040 you know, like we want people to be different to 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.199 who they were ten years ago. We think that it's 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.600 imperative that we learn, we change, we acknowledge our mistakes, 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.319 and we become better people. And everybody has the opportunity 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.000 to and has the ability to be better than who 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.040 they were ten years ago. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.200 But in that. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:48.000 Same instance, is there a higher level of accountability that 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.120 needs to play out here? Because Christy Taguan is a 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.040 role model, she is someone who has been put up 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.920 on a pedestal, She is someone who has brand alignments, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.199 who has to uphold the integrity and the ethos of 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.640 those brands. So as much as we can't cancel someone 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.400 for them stakes that they've done, I don't think that 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.840 you could just step straight back into the role that 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.520 you once had. There has to be some repercussions for it. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.520 Well, this is the conversation. Do we hold her accountable 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.400 now and completely cancel her throw it under the bus 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.800 and everyone turns their back on up because she made 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.079 some horrific mistakes twelve years ago. We can't let it 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.320 get away with it completely. But I don't think we 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.400 cancel it completely either. So I haven't really seen anything 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.560 like this. I'm trying to think back to, you know, 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.559 the last five ten years in the celebrity culture. I'm 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.440 trying to think of something that this relates to, but 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.240 I really can't. I can't think something that was so 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.920 loved and appreciated and the whole world fangirls and looks 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.680 up to Chrissy Teagan. I can't think of anyone that 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.880 has their pass to this extent has come back to 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.520 horn them. So I don't know what's going to happen 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.760 with her, I think, and I am a big believer 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.000 that people do make mistakes, people can learn from their mistakes, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.719 and people can rewrite their story one hundred percent. I 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.240 just don't know how we're going to do it with 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.000 Chrissy Teagan. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.439 I agree, And I think the reason why people are 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.080 so up in arms about this is because ten years 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.760 ago wasn't that long ago, really, And I know it 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.840 seems and it sounds like it is, but like I 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.040 think about where I was ten years ago, and I 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.680 was twenty six years old. I was not calling people 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.840 whoes at twenty six years old on the internet, you know, 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.400 And then that's not me saying I'm a way better person. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.600 Of course I made a load of mistakes, but I 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.280 wasn't out there tweeting and saying Mariah Carey's fat and 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.120 whatever else was written. You know, there was so many, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.479 so many occasions of what she said being wildly inappropriate, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.920 And I think that maybe there is a level of 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.320 that is who you are, or that is the person 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.000 that you have behaved as, like that meanness is inside 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.240 you for you to want to verbalize that on the Internet. 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:38.520 And maybe there was a part of her that thought 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.199 it was funny or witty or sarcastic. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:41.960 Or whatever it is. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.079 But I guess at the end of the day, what 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:46.760 we kind of have to look at when it comes 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.600 to things like cancel culture is that we live on 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.800 a spectrum, right, Like nobody is completely bad, nobody is 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.079 completely good. And all of the good conversations that Chrissy 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.880 Taggans had around miscarriage, around stillbirth, around creating community, all 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.280 of that still has value that doesn't just get wiped 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.560 because of the fact that she has done these horrible tweets. However, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.600 it does bring her character into question as a person. Look, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.080 I'm interested to see how it plays out watch this space. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.680 If I have to take a guess now. I don't 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.280 think we're going to completely cancel her. I think that 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:20.920 we're gonna give her hard time, and I think she's 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.280 gonna have to put a lot of effort in privately 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.040 and publicly to get back to the place that she was. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.920 If I'm gonna have to make a prediction here, I'm 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.840 gonna be like, I don't think we're going to one 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.160 hundred percent canceler, but she's gonna have a bloody tough time. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.880 She's gonna lose a lot of deals, and she's gonna 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.959 have to rebuild a. 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.280 Hell of a lot of relationships. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.640 Well, Target has just pulled all of her recipe books 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.000 and all of her kitchen brand that she has out 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:43.760 of all their stores. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.400 So they have received a huge backlash, and this just 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.280 shows like what a force public opinion can be on 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.560 someone's But it was saying to me earlier that a 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.760 whole lot of people had gotten onto Target and left 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.560 horrendous reviews saying like, how could you support somebody who 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:00.560 has written these things? And Target's knee jerk action was 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.920 to pull all of Chrissy Tiggan's line from their doors. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.000 And I guess it's already having ramifications for her. But 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.400 maybe we'll put up a pole and see what you 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.440 guys think, and see what side of the fence you 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.320 sit on in this whole conversation and whether or not 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.720 you think that there is some validity to cancel culture 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.400 when it comes to these sorts of actions. Watch this space. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.400 It's time for our favorite segment. You know what that 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.920 is you write in your most embarrassing stories. We call 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.680 it accidentally unfiltered. All right, you can go first. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.960 I love always say it every single time, like we've 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.280 never practiced this before, and this is the first episode 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:34.880 we've ever done. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.360 It makes me feel like we're on the radio or 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.600 like some cheesy child's show, you know when they say 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.840 accidentally unfiltered. Okay, I'll go first, Laura. This is probably 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.600 something you do. Actually, I feel like I say that 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:50.840 I preface every accidentally unfiltered, no matter wordyther It's like vomit, pooh, sexty. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.360 I just like shut on themselves and dropped a dildo 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.120 down the stairs. And you're like, oh my god, Laura, 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:56.560 it's totally something you would do. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:01.080 Did you write this in the Probably, guys, I haven't 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.280 accidentally unfilter for you. That happened just this morning. I've 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.240 recently moved house, and my husband listed some items on 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.240 marketplace for sale. As you do. It's the first time 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.320 he's ever used marketplace, so he was quite surprised at 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.880 the number of messages and how ridiculous some of them were. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.880 One of the last items to go up was our 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:24.680 children's tracks. Now, I saw this pop up on my marketplace, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.840 so I thought I'd be funny. I'd respond to the 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.880 ad with a whole bunch of weird and sexy things, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.360 obviously as a personal joke. I kept bombarding him with 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.240 the messages, and I turned them very sexual, very quickly, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.560 things like are you single? Will you take a blowjob 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.560 to the payment of that trick? If you are married, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.000 I can offer you some discrete fun you guys get 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.640 the picture. I probably sent about ten of these messages, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.000 all of a sexual nature. I thought this was really 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.360 fucking funny, but I had no response, so I asked 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.400 my husband, can you go and read the messages I 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.360 sent you? About the track? It goes? What messages? I 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.080 was like, well, fuck, My stomach dropped. I went back 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.720 into check the seller information, and sure enough, there was 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.360 just some innocent random bloke trying to sell his trick. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.800 I quickly told him that I am so. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.360 Sorry and that these were men for my husband. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.440 I'll give you a blow drop for the trick for 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.240 a kids. After I apologized, there was still no response, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:23.360 so I panic blocked him. This poor man's just trying 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.080 to sell his kids buying and there's some woman on 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.720 there being like, I'll give you a blowy if you're married, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.680 that's cool, we can still have some discrepe fun. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.440 I mean, let's be really, I don't feel that sorry 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.840 for the guy. I think he's gonna be okay. 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.960 Well, he was obviously mortified. He was just like nope, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.640 but imagine him. Also, he left her on red that's 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.600 my favorite bart but like he could have. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.120 Also blocked her himself, but instead he was like, I'm 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:44.760 getting the kick out of this. I'm just gonna see 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.840 where this woman goes. He's like, maybe if I hold out, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.040 I'll get a hole. I'll get to fourth Is it 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:49.520 home run? 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:50.120 Fourth base? 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:50.720 Home run? 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.800 I'll just told you it's been a really long time 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.400 since you'll hit a home run. All right. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.400 So this is the story my sister told me about 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.120 one of her girlfriends who lives in France, So I'm 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.440 going to hope that she doesn't actually listen to this podcast. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:04.760 I'm going to say that because she's in France with 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.240 probably not her demographic, but who knows anyway, So and 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.080 I'm going to do it as though she has written 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.159 this in just for a real dramatic effect. Guys, I 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.520 love that. So I was at the supermarket this one day, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.160 and I often don't wear underwear. Actually I almost never 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.840 wear underwear because I don't really find them very comfortable. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.639 You do, your girl, live your best lives, live in 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:25.399 a best life. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.800 So I'm standing at the cash register waiting for the 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.240 woman to come back, and it'd been quite a weight already, 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.440 feel a fart brewing, but I thought I'd be okay anyway, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.399 still waiting and waiting, and the cashier hadn't come back yet, 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.159 so I thought, do you know what, It's only going 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.960