Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
Speaker 1: un Cut.
Speaker 2: I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and this is Thursday.
Speaker 1: But don't be fooled.
Speaker 2: This is our big, meaty, juicy, sexy Tuesday episode because
Speaker 2: you know, we love to pool a little switcherooni, and
Speaker 2: we did have to do that this week. But it
Speaker 2: is Thursday. We're doing our Tuesday episode and we have
Speaker 2: a really really great fun episode for you today, but
Speaker 2: we'll get into that a little later. How are you, Laura, Well,
Speaker 2: today it's my four year wedding. No, I'm not married,
Speaker 2: you're not hen't married. There is my four year bachelor anniversary.
Speaker 2: Oh so the finale anniversary.
Speaker 1: Today is the day that I was standing sweating my
Speaker 1: balls off in Thailand and Matt said, I.
Speaker 2: Want to spend the rest of my life with you,
Speaker 2: and then I cried. That was today, the day he
Speaker 2: chose you out of twenty five women. And you know
Speaker 2: how we remember that today is the day. Let me guess,
Speaker 2: don't don't actually tell me. There had to have been
Speaker 2: some sort of memory pop up on Facebook or something
Speaker 2: like you would have both forgotten. I know you both.
Speaker 2: Osha sent us a text message Osher.
Speaker 1: I woke up to a message from Osher this morning.
Speaker 1: He was like, happy anniversary, guys, And you're like, say,
Speaker 1: anniversary of what completely completely forgot. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just really glad that Matt and I, you know,
Speaker 1: we took things slow. We didn't rush into anything. We
Speaker 1: really got to know each other before we committed to
Speaker 1: things and totally lived together, two kids, engaged. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: all happened really quickly, and here we are four years
Speaker 1: later and two children.
Speaker 2: See, obviously, if you both forgot, you haven't done anything special. Well.
Speaker 1: I came home from work today and I thought maybe
Speaker 1: Matt would have cleaned the house. Like Matt knows if
Speaker 1: he really wants to get me going, if he wants
Speaker 1: to turn.
Speaker 2: Me off, hold them towns, Matt, you vacuum outlo a
Speaker 2: load of laundry. Tell me about how you're going to
Speaker 2: sterilize the floor. Baby, it's some softenering and she's yours.
Speaker 1: So I it's been pretty soft these days. So I
Speaker 1: expected to come home and have a clean house. But
Speaker 1: I came home that was at the gym, and there
Speaker 1: was a bunch of flowers perched on top of all
Speaker 1: of the dirty washing.
Speaker 2: That was that was like, thanks, Pal, I love you too.
Speaker 2: He's like, Babe, I've gone to bulk for you. I've
Speaker 2: got to get bigger at the gym.
Speaker 1: Well, I called him and I was like, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that the flowers that are hero from you and that
Speaker 1: they're from me. And he was like, oh shit, you
Speaker 1: got home before me. Yes, they're for you. He's like,
Speaker 1: I was also going to do the washing. I didn't
Speaker 1: intentionally leave it on top of the washing, but in retrospect,
Speaker 1: maybe that's what I can do for him for anniversary
Speaker 1: since I've done nothing yet.
Speaker 2: But anyway, No, you do his washing every day, he
Speaker 2: can do the washing for you for the anniversary. I
Speaker 2: keep his child alive. Goddamn it.
Speaker 1: I'm on a four hour round o'clock schedule right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that means today's also my anniversary of when
Speaker 2: I was dumped. That but one year later. If you
Speaker 2: want to make it about you, Bret, that's so fine.
Speaker 2: He just reminded me that, like if it's a Bachelor
Speaker 2: finale day, it was my dumping anniversary.
Speaker 1: Loved that. So on today's episode, we're talking about something
Speaker 1: that we have been teasing for about nine months now.
Speaker 2: Actually, we said we're going to do a baby I'm
Speaker 2: not having another one yet. We did say we were
Speaker 2: going to do an episode on this ages ago when
Speaker 2: we did the attachment theory episode and also when we
Speaker 2: did Conflict Resolutions, which are two of my favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: I think like we don't get to sit down and
Speaker 1: just kind of hash it out very often anymore. We've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of interviews lately, so we thought
Speaker 1: we would sit down and do this episode all around
Speaker 1: Mayers Briggs personality test and how different types of personality
Speaker 1: types better relate to each other in dating and just
Speaker 1: in your normal day to day interactions. And I know
Speaker 1: that Mayers Briggs is something that you guys have probably
Speaker 1: heard about when it comes to workplace and when it
Speaker 1: comes to like finding the best person for the job,
Speaker 1: but it also has some really key indications throughout relationships
Speaker 1: as well. So we again to unpack that and I
Speaker 1: bet you could guess whether we're introverted or extraverted.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Well, we're not telling you yet,
Speaker 2: so you can hold the line. Let's dissect that little
Speaker 2: bit later. And we're also made our partners, Jordan and Matt,
Speaker 2: we also made them do it so we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about that as well. Look, one thing I did
Speaker 2: want to sort of dissect with you, Laura. I want
Speaker 2: your opinion on it, because I've been reading a lot
Speaker 2: about it. It's this whole Chrissy Teagan, Courtney Stotten tweeting
Speaker 2: the mean tweets. Are we canceling Chrissy Tegan? So I
Speaker 2: want to know what your thoughts are. And let's if
Speaker 2: you guys haven't heard about it, let's give you a
Speaker 2: quick background. Chrissy Teagan is currently everywhere in the media,
Speaker 2: but for the wrong reason. Now, we as a society
Speaker 2: mainly have been loving Chrissy Teagan for the last you know,
Speaker 2: five six seven years. She's come out as someone that's
Speaker 2: really funny and quirky and supportive and like she's very vocal.
Speaker 2: She's had some very vocal thoughts about Donald Trump. You know,
Speaker 2: she did a song that was like fuck Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: which I thought was great.
Speaker 1: But she also had an incredibly painful child loss last
Speaker 1: year where she had a stillbirth at twenty one weeks
Speaker 1: and her conversation around that was incredibly so raw and
Speaker 1: real and vulnerable. And I remember seeing that and I
Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Lola at the time and it
Speaker 1: brought me to tears. So there are so many conversations
Speaker 1: that she started across social media that I have really
Speaker 1: felt like. I loved being a part of her social
Speaker 1: media community. But I know where are going with this, Brit.
Speaker 1: I'd love you to give a bit more background around
Speaker 1: what has happened and why we are very much sitting
Speaker 1: on the fence when it comes to Chrissy Teagan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing, just to touch on what
Speaker 2: you just said about her really open, powerful conversation about
Speaker 2: her still birth. She's also been a really big advocate
Speaker 2: in starting the conversations about miscarriages as well, because she
Speaker 2: has had a few. So there have been a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have, you know, are singing her praises
Speaker 2: for having these conversations and trying to normalize it, and
Speaker 2: I think it's been absolutely brilliant. And again, like you said,
Speaker 2: that was heartbreaking when she released those photos and her
Speaker 2: Instagram messages about the loss of her child. But we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about something a little bit different. So
Speaker 2: in a nutshell, there is a celebrity in America named
Speaker 2: Courtney Stotten. Long story short, Courtney was sixteen years old
Speaker 2: when they sort of came into the spotlight for doing
Speaker 2: some beauty pageants and they're on TV a lot. But
Speaker 2: what really threw them into the limelight was that they
Speaker 2: married someone much older. They married a man that was
Speaker 2: fifty two years old, and that's sort of got a
Speaker 2: lot of people talking, which you know what, it's pretty crazy,
Speaker 2: I guess, but ultimately two people feel in love and
Speaker 2: they got married. How this relates to Chrissy Teagan is
Speaker 2: Chrissy Teagan. It has come out that about eleven twelve
Speaker 2: years ago, I think it was twenty eleven when these
Speaker 2: tweets started, and they did go over a few years.
Speaker 2: But Courtney has come out and has been really open
Speaker 2: about the tweets that they received from Christi Teagan. These
Speaker 2: tweets and not only tweets, they would direct messages as well.
Speaker 2: So Chrissy wrote to Courtney's private account some really quite
Speaker 2: vile and I was very surprised when I read them,
Speaker 2: really really horrible sort of messages and tweets.
Speaker 1: Well, basically, these tweets are exactly the type of thing
Speaker 1: that when we talk about trolling from reality TV on
Speaker 1: the podcast, and we've spoken about it loads, how a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are kind of in the limelight.
Speaker 1: Have received comments like you should kill yourself, and one
Speaker 1: of the comments that Chrissy Teagan had written to Courtney
Speaker 1: was I want you to go and take a dirt nap,
Speaker 1: which obviously, you know, guys read between the lines, but
Speaker 1: also Courtney has come out and said that there were
Speaker 1: a whole lot of dms, not just saying to take
Speaker 1: a dirt nap, but saying, you know, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for you to die, I want you to kill yourself.
Speaker 1: Really horrific stuff that I think if anybody else said it,
Speaker 1: we would have canceled them a long time ago. But
Speaker 1: we do have this allowance for Chrissy Tagan because she
Speaker 1: is such a huge, relatable and lovable force on social media.
Speaker 1: And the other part of this as well is that
Speaker 1: this is not the first time that Chrissy Tagan has
Speaker 1: been thrown into the limelight for her very appalling behavior
Speaker 1: when it comes to Twitter and for the things that
Speaker 1: she has said. The thing that we wanted to kind
Speaker 1: of unpack here a little bit is, obviously we've spoken
Speaker 1: before about cancel culture, and we don't subscribe to cancel culture. However,
Speaker 1: at what point and for how far back in the past.
Speaker 1: Can you allow someone the grievances of being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I was a different person then and I have changed now.
Speaker 1: So Chrissy's come out and she said that she's appalled
Speaker 1: for the person that she was back then, that she
Speaker 1: was a troll, and that she's incredibly sorry for the
Speaker 1: things that she said and the things that she did.
Speaker 1: And since she has come out and made that public apology,
Speaker 1: more celebrities have come out and said, hey, I was
Speaker 1: also a victim of Chrissy Tagan's trolling. And on top
Speaker 1: of that, Courtney has come out and said, well, yes,
Speaker 1: she may have made this public statement, but she has
Speaker 1: never actually contacted me privately. No one from her party
Speaker 1: has contacted me privately to make this apology. So now
Speaker 1: we don't know where we stand on the Chrissy Tagan debate.
Speaker 2: Well so, yeah, and I'm really torn right because let
Speaker 2: me unpack this my own thoughts, and I don't have
Speaker 2: an end goal that I'm going to get to at
Speaker 2: the end of this conversation. Right now, I don't know
Speaker 2: how I feel, but this is me just wanting to
Speaker 2: unpack it and talk to you, Laura. But they're having
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have come out like you said.
Speaker 2: I know there was some really vild tweets that she
Speaker 2: made about Lindsay Lohan, for example, but I want to
Speaker 2: read you what Chrissy Teagan did say publicly. She came
Speaker 2: out and said, not a lot of people are lucky
Speaker 2: enough to be held accountable for all their past bullshit
Speaker 2: in front of the entire world. I'm mortified and sad
Speaker 2: and who I used to be. I was an insecure,
Speaker 2: attention seeking troll. I am ashamed and I'm completely embarrassed
Speaker 2: at my behavior. She then went on to say, this
Speaker 2: is nothing compared to how I make Courtney feel. I
Speaker 2: work so hard to give you guys joy and be beloved,
Speaker 2: and the feeling of letting you down is nearly unbearable. Truly,
Speaker 2: these were not my only mistakes, and surely they will
Speaker 2: not be my last, as hard as I try, but god,
Speaker 2: I will try.
Speaker 1: One thing from that that I just want to kind
Speaker 1: of that literally just sprung to me as you read that,
Speaker 1: Britt is to say not many people are lucky enough
Speaker 1: to have all of their past mistakes. I feel like
Speaker 1: that that's almost a very like backhanded comment to make,
Speaker 1: because I don't actually genuinely believe that anybody would feel
Speaker 1: grateful or lucky that their personal mistakes from the past
Speaker 1: are being brought to light. I feel like that that's
Speaker 1: a really underhanded way of making an apology and starting
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 2: No, I think she's Actually I'm a bit torn because
Speaker 2: I sort of took that as I think she's being sarcastic.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm saying I think she's being sarcastic.
Speaker 1: I think she's being underhanded in that apology, which for
Speaker 1: me almost sets me on a back foot. I'm like, Okay, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: You were held to a different set of standards because
Speaker 1: you are a celebrity, But do you know what, you
Speaker 1: were also a celebrity at the time. Maybe you weren't
Speaker 1: as big or prolific as a celebrity as you are now.
Speaker 1: You're still in the public eye and there is still
Speaker 1: an accountability And even if you weren't in the public eye,
Speaker 1: that doesn't give you right to say these things to
Speaker 1: someone else. And I'm straddling this one, hardcore guys, because.
Speaker 2: Saying I'm straddling that fence, I am on that fence.
Speaker 1: And that's because, on one hand, I think Britta and
Speaker 1: I we both agree that we do allow for growth,
Speaker 1: you know, like we want people to be different to
Speaker 1: who they were ten years ago. We think that it's
Speaker 1: imperative that we learn, we change, we acknowledge our mistakes,
Speaker 1: and we become better people. And everybody has the opportunity
Speaker 1: to and has the ability to be better than who
Speaker 1: they were ten years ago.
Speaker 2: But in that.
Speaker 1: Same instance, is there a higher level of accountability that
Speaker 1: needs to play out here? Because Christy Taguan is a
Speaker 1: role model, she is someone who has been put up
Speaker 1: on a pedestal, She is someone who has brand alignments,
Speaker 1: who has to uphold the integrity and the ethos of
Speaker 1: those brands. So as much as we can't cancel someone
Speaker 1: for them stakes that they've done, I don't think that
Speaker 1: you could just step straight back into the role that
Speaker 1: you once had. There has to be some repercussions for it.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the conversation. Do we hold her accountable
Speaker 2: now and completely cancel her throw it under the bus
Speaker 2: and everyone turns their back on up because she made
Speaker 2: some horrific mistakes twelve years ago. We can't let it
Speaker 2: get away with it completely. But I don't think we
Speaker 2: cancel it completely either. So I haven't really seen anything
Speaker 2: like this. I'm trying to think back to, you know,
Speaker 2: the last five ten years in the celebrity culture. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think of something that this relates to, but
Speaker 2: I really can't. I can't think something that was so
Speaker 2: loved and appreciated and the whole world fangirls and looks
Speaker 2: up to Chrissy Teagan. I can't think of anyone that
Speaker 2: has their pass to this extent has come back to
Speaker 2: horn them. So I don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 2: with her, I think, and I am a big believer
Speaker 2: that people do make mistakes, people can learn from their mistakes,
Speaker 2: and people can rewrite their story one hundred percent. I
Speaker 2: just don't know how we're going to do it with
Speaker 2: Chrissy Teagan.
Speaker 1: I agree, And I think the reason why people are
Speaker 1: so up in arms about this is because ten years
Speaker 1: ago wasn't that long ago, really, And I know it
Speaker 1: seems and it sounds like it is, but like I
Speaker 1: think about where I was ten years ago, and I
Speaker 1: was twenty six years old. I was not calling people
Speaker 1: whoes at twenty six years old on the internet, you know,
Speaker 1: And then that's not me saying I'm a way better person.
Speaker 1: Of course I made a load of mistakes, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't out there tweeting and saying Mariah Carey's fat and
Speaker 1: whatever else was written. You know, there was so many,
Speaker 1: so many occasions of what she said being wildly inappropriate,
Speaker 1: And I think that maybe there is a level of
Speaker 1: that is who you are, or that is the person
Speaker 1: that you have behaved as, like that meanness is inside
Speaker 1: you for you to want to verbalize that on the Internet.
Speaker 1: And maybe there was a part of her that thought
Speaker 1: it was funny or witty or sarcastic.
Speaker 2: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I guess at the end of the day, what
Speaker 1: we kind of have to look at when it comes
Speaker 1: to things like cancel culture is that we live on
Speaker 1: a spectrum, right, Like nobody is completely bad, nobody is
Speaker 1: completely good. And all of the good conversations that Chrissy
Speaker 1: Taggans had around miscarriage, around stillbirth, around creating community, all
Speaker 1: of that still has value that doesn't just get wiped
Speaker 1: because of the fact that she has done these horrible tweets. However,
Speaker 1: it does bring her character into question as a person. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how it plays out watch this space.
Speaker 1: If I have to take a guess now. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to completely cancel her. I think that
Speaker 1: we're gonna give her hard time, and I think she's
Speaker 1: gonna have to put a lot of effort in privately
Speaker 1: and publicly to get back to the place that she was.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna have to make a prediction here, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be like, I don't think we're going to one
Speaker 1: hundred percent canceler, but she's gonna have a bloody tough time.
Speaker 1: She's gonna lose a lot of deals, and she's gonna
Speaker 1: have to rebuild a.
Speaker 2: Hell of a lot of relationships.
Speaker 1: Well, Target has just pulled all of her recipe books
Speaker 1: and all of her kitchen brand that she has out
Speaker 1: of all their stores.
Speaker 2: So they have received a huge backlash, and this just
Speaker 2: shows like what a force public opinion can be on
Speaker 2: someone's But it was saying to me earlier that a
Speaker 2: whole lot of people had gotten onto Target and left
Speaker 2: horrendous reviews saying like, how could you support somebody who
Speaker 2: has written these things? And Target's knee jerk action was
Speaker 2: to pull all of Chrissy Tiggan's line from their doors.
Speaker 2: And I guess it's already having ramifications for her. But
Speaker 2: maybe we'll put up a pole and see what you
Speaker 2: guys think, and see what side of the fence you
Speaker 2: sit on in this whole conversation and whether or not
Speaker 2: you think that there is some validity to cancel culture
Speaker 2: when it comes to these sorts of actions. Watch this space.
Speaker 2: It's time for our favorite segment. You know what that
Speaker 2: is you write in your most embarrassing stories. We call
Speaker 2: it accidentally unfiltered. All right, you can go first.
Speaker 1: I love always say it every single time, like we've
Speaker 1: never practiced this before, and this is the first episode
Speaker 1: we've ever done.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like we're on the radio or
Speaker 2: like some cheesy child's show, you know when they say
Speaker 2: accidentally unfiltered. Okay, I'll go first, Laura. This is probably
Speaker 2: something you do. Actually, I feel like I say that
Speaker 2: I preface every accidentally unfiltered, no matter wordyther It's like vomit, pooh, sexty.
Speaker 1: I just like shut on themselves and dropped a dildo
Speaker 1: down the stairs. And you're like, oh my god, Laura,
Speaker 1: it's totally something you would do.
Speaker 2: Did you write this in the Probably, guys, I haven't
Speaker 2: accidentally unfilter for you. That happened just this morning. I've
Speaker 2: recently moved house, and my husband listed some items on
Speaker 2: marketplace for sale. As you do. It's the first time
Speaker 2: he's ever used marketplace, so he was quite surprised at
Speaker 2: the number of messages and how ridiculous some of them were.
Speaker 2: One of the last items to go up was our
Speaker 2: children's tracks. Now, I saw this pop up on my marketplace,
Speaker 2: so I thought I'd be funny. I'd respond to the
Speaker 2: ad with a whole bunch of weird and sexy things,
Speaker 2: obviously as a personal joke. I kept bombarding him with
Speaker 2: the messages, and I turned them very sexual, very quickly,
Speaker 2: things like are you single? Will you take a blowjob
Speaker 2: to the payment of that trick? If you are married,
Speaker 2: I can offer you some discrete fun you guys get
Speaker 2: the picture. I probably sent about ten of these messages,
Speaker 2: all of a sexual nature. I thought this was really
Speaker 2: fucking funny, but I had no response, so I asked
Speaker 2: my husband, can you go and read the messages I
Speaker 2: sent you? About the track? It goes? What messages? I
Speaker 2: was like, well, fuck, My stomach dropped. I went back
Speaker 2: into check the seller information, and sure enough, there was
Speaker 2: just some innocent random bloke trying to sell his trick.
Speaker 2: I quickly told him that I am so.
Speaker 1: Sorry and that these were men for my husband.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a blow drop for the trick for
Speaker 2: a kids. After I apologized, there was still no response,
Speaker 2: so I panic blocked him. This poor man's just trying
Speaker 2: to sell his kids buying and there's some woman on
Speaker 2: there being like, I'll give you a blowy if you're married,
Speaker 2: that's cool, we can still have some discrepe fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be really, I don't feel that sorry
Speaker 1: for the guy. I think he's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: Well, he was obviously mortified. He was just like nope,
Speaker 2: but imagine him. Also, he left her on red that's
Speaker 2: my favorite bart but like he could have.
Speaker 1: Also blocked her himself, but instead he was like, I'm
Speaker 1: getting the kick out of this. I'm just gonna see
Speaker 1: where this woman goes. He's like, maybe if I hold out,
Speaker 1: I'll get a hole. I'll get to fourth Is it
Speaker 1: home run?
Speaker 2: Fourth base?
Speaker 1: Home run?
Speaker 2: I'll just told you it's been a really long time
Speaker 2: since you'll hit a home run. All right.
Speaker 1: So this is the story my sister told me about
Speaker 1: one of her girlfriends who lives in France, So I'm
Speaker 1: going to hope that she doesn't actually listen to this podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that because she's in France with
Speaker 1: probably not her demographic, but who knows anyway, So and
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it as though she has written
Speaker 1: this in just for a real dramatic effect. Guys, I
Speaker 1: love that. So I was at the supermarket this one day,
Speaker 1: and I often don't wear underwear. Actually I almost never
Speaker 1: wear underwear because I don't really find them very comfortable.
Speaker 2: You do, your girl, live your best lives, live in
Speaker 2: a best life.
Speaker 1: So I'm standing at the cash register waiting for the
Speaker 1: woman to come back, and it'd been quite a weight already,
Speaker 1: feel a fart brewing, but I thought I'd be okay anyway,
Speaker 1: still waiting and waiting, and the cashier hadn't come back yet,
Speaker 1: so I thought, do you know what, It's only going
Speaker 1: to be a little one. So I just did a
Speaker 1: little fart, and at the very same time, a malteseer
Speaker 1: sized nugget fell out of my backside.
Speaker 2: She shot, wait, she shot a little poo out of
Speaker 2: her bum because she and then she kicked it under
Speaker 2: the cash register.
Speaker 1: I went to the ground a little more teas and nugget.
Speaker 1: I swear I'm not making this up. Guys, A little
Speaker 1: more teas and nugget popped out of her bum, fell
Speaker 1: on the ground, and then she kicked it under the
Speaker 1: cash Registar and all of this happened, and she turned
Speaker 1: around and the woman who was going to serve her
Speaker 1: was standing behind her.
Speaker 2: That is the most discuss that's probably that's probably the
Speaker 2: disgusting when we've had there's like a kangaroo pellet, you
Speaker 2: know how they shoot the bellows out like a little kangaroo.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I had to do that in first person,
Speaker 1: but like the way my sister told me this story today,
Speaker 1: she was like, how can I word this in a
Speaker 1: way that it makes sense for accidentally unfiltereds.
Speaker 2: It has to be done in first person.
Speaker 1: I did not make it up. It is a true story,
Speaker 1: comes all the way from France. Girl, you need to
Speaker 1: start wearing undies.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be shooting these nuggets out all over the places.
Speaker 2: You need to start wearing undy.
Speaker 1: Do you ever not wear undies?
Speaker 2: I don't sleep in undies. I sleep naked, yeh in winter.
Speaker 2: I never wore undies on The Bachelor. I was noody
Speaker 2: all the time. But that's because that wasn't nick that
Speaker 2: I was hoping to her luggy. No, that was because
Speaker 2: the dresses they basically had to sew me into them
Speaker 2: that were so tight. I just couldn't do it. You'd
Speaker 2: see you in the line. So I was always I'd
Speaker 2: like to say, free bawling. What's the equivalent free fanny.
Speaker 2: I was always free fanny, free flapping, el free fanny,
Speaker 2: and free flapping was gross.
Speaker 1: I have to wear underwear to bed. I cannot sleep
Speaker 1: without underwear on. I feel unprotected. I feel like and
Speaker 1: everything needs to be contained. What if Matt tries to
Speaker 1: have sex with me. I need some protection there, God forbid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very tired, and I've got a headache. I actually
Speaker 1: seem I've had a boyfriend. I actually sleep with honeys
Speaker 1: on for that exact reason. During the day, can only
Speaker 1: wear a G string. I can't wear full briefs because
Speaker 1: I feel like my butt's being hugged.
Speaker 2: It's just a thing. I've got a thing a G
Speaker 2: string during the day, full briefs at night. I will
Speaker 2: own you wear a G string in the day usually,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna show you what. I've got one right now, Laura.
Speaker 2: I've got a full brief on and I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: show because I got a skirt on and she's got
Speaker 2: a great ass. I'm showing you because it's their full brief.
Speaker 2: But they're the seamless ones and they're really thin, so
Speaker 2: I still feel like I get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 2: It's like coverage, but it's so light that I don't
Speaker 2: know what's there.
Speaker 1: And do you know what, guys, this is actually not
Speaker 1: sponsored by an underwear brand at all. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to know that about. I wanted to share that with you.
Speaker 1: Maybe you guys can share with me what's an underwear
Speaker 1: you wear?
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna feel like we're a close knit family.
Speaker 2: But anyway, guys, that.
Speaker 1: Is it from us for the start of this episode.
Speaker 1: I reckon it's time to get into unpacking some of
Speaker 1: this Meyers Briggs stuff.
Speaker 2: People are gonna be like, the fuck are we here for?
Speaker 2: We've had enough of the un missed free balling and
Speaker 2: the poopellers.
Speaker 1: There's probably a good chance that you've heard of Mayas
Speaker 1: Brigg's personality tests before, but I'm thinking that most people
Speaker 1: would have heard about this personality test in relation to
Speaker 1: your workplace. It's a test that often if you're going
Speaker 1: for a new job, you might find that they will
Speaker 1: give you a random personality test and then you never
Speaker 1: really find out the results from it, and you are like,
Speaker 1: hopefully they like me, Hopefully I'm doing a good job here,
Speaker 1: Hopefully I get the job, Hopefully I'm the right person.
Speaker 1: But one of the big things that I want to
Speaker 1: talk about before we get fully into Mayers Briggs personality
Speaker 1: tests is that we're going to be talking about it
Speaker 1: in relation to relationships, and obviously like not just how
Speaker 1: we relate to people in the workplace, but how we
Speaker 1: relate to our friends, how we relate to our partners,
Speaker 1: and understanding someone's personality type goes a really long way
Speaker 1: for conflict resolution. And now we've done two massive episodes
Speaker 1: around attachment styles and also around conflict resolution. But one
Speaker 1: of the big things I really love about Mayas Briggs
Speaker 1: personality tests, and no it's not for everybody, but when
Speaker 1: I very first did my Mayas Briggs I remember reading
Speaker 1: the definition of who I am as a person and
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck off, that is me, And it
Speaker 1: just really put into words who I am and how
Speaker 1: I sort of show up to the world in a
Speaker 1: way that I don't think anybody had done before.
Speaker 2: And so then I.
Speaker 1: Made my partner at the time do it, and it
Speaker 1: really gave me a little bit more insight into who
Speaker 1: he was as a person. And now it's not like
Speaker 1: I made Matt apply to date me. I wasn't like, Hey,
Speaker 1: before we start dating, do the Meyers Briggs personality test.
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't.
Speaker 1: That's what I do when I start dating someone. But
Speaker 1: I also kind of made him do it. And the
Speaker 1: reason why I made him do it is, like I said,
Speaker 1: it really helps with this idea of conflict resolution. And
Speaker 1: the reason for that is because when you better understand
Speaker 1: how a person shows up to the world, whether they're
Speaker 1: an introvert or an extrovert, whether they're a big picture
Speaker 1: person or a detailed person, it gives you a better
Speaker 1: understanding of how to deal with them when you are,
Speaker 1: you know, facing conflict, or when they've done something or
Speaker 1: said something that maybe you've taken offense to, because you
Speaker 1: can really unpack whether was that said or done with
Speaker 1: malice or is that person just living their life in
Speaker 1: a way that they experience the world are they just
Speaker 1: perceiving something different to the way I'm perceiving it. So
Speaker 1: before we fully get into all that, the Meyersbrigs personality
Speaker 1: test actually came about around so in nineteen ten. This
Speaker 1: is a bit of the history.
Speaker 2: Guys, we did add due diligence, lo and behold.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were a well research. You come
Speaker 1: here for the facts and also for some you know,
Speaker 1: dubious advice.
Speaker 2: But that's okay.
Speaker 1: So in around nineteen ten to nineteen twenty, there was
Speaker 1: a guy called Carl Jung, and he did a whole
Speaker 1: lot of research into these different types of personalities, but
Speaker 1: he abandoned the research and it wasn't until nineteen forty
Speaker 1: when two American women, one was named Isabella Briggs Meyers
Speaker 1: and her mother, Catherine Cook Briggs, set about to make
Speaker 1: the work of cardooing more accessible to people all over
Speaker 1: the world, and they were the ones who actually created
Speaker 1: the test. And one of the things that I love
Speaker 1: about these women more than anything is that they were
Speaker 1: completely unqualified, but obviously very enthusiastic, kind of like Brittany
Speaker 1: and myself.
Speaker 2: That's why this fits in so well. Now, look, Laura
Speaker 2: say they're unqualified. Look it's skeptical. People are saying, do
Speaker 2: we really believe these twoman's advice when they don't actually
Speaker 2: have any psychoanalytical background whatsoever. But the fact of the
Speaker 2: matter is it has a ninety percent accuracy rating and
Speaker 2: a ninety percent average test retest correlation. This is what
Speaker 2: makes it one of the most reliable and the most
Speaker 2: accurate personality tessmens that are available. It's the most wildly
Speaker 2: used in the world. Now I've actually done a few
Speaker 2: personality tests, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like I'm still fucking dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: Still if I'm trying to figure this shit out, I
Speaker 2: don't know who I am say in all honesty, I
Speaker 2: had never actually heard of the Meyers Briggs test until
Speaker 2: Laura brought it up, probably about six months ago, maybe longer.
Speaker 2: It might have been a year ago when we first
Speaker 2: started discussing this, and I had never heard of it. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I have done the questionnaire. The questionnaire anyone can do
Speaker 2: what's online. We'll put the links up in the show notes,
Speaker 2: But essentially it's one hundred questions or thereabouts. But they're
Speaker 2: very simple. It's just like yes, no, in the middle, neutral,
Speaker 2: you're not sure. It's very quick and easy but when
Speaker 2: I got my results and we're going to go into it,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about you, Laura. But I was with
Speaker 2: Sherry We're both doing the test, and I started to
Speaker 2: read out my answers to her and I looked up
Speaker 2: at her and I said, I sound horrible. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't like who this says I am, and I
Speaker 2: was quite shocked by it. And Sheridan's like everything that
Speaker 2: they've said about you, She's like, each little thing is accurate,
Speaker 2: but when you read it out as a whole, She's like,
Speaker 2: I get why you're not overly impressed with the description,
Speaker 2: and we'll get into that later. I just think I
Speaker 2: sounded a bit like a wayanker.
Speaker 1: Really, this is one thing I want to say to
Speaker 1: you guys. It's like, none of these personality types are
Speaker 1: bad personality types. There are sixteen different types. We're definitely
Speaker 1: not going to unpack every single one of them. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine this is like a forty.
Speaker 2: Eight hour til next week.
Speaker 1: But what I want to say is there is no
Speaker 1: such thing as a bad personality type. We just all
Speaker 1: show up to the world differently, and we all react
Speaker 1: to different situations according to who we are as people.
Speaker 2: At our inner core.
Speaker 1: This goes for introverts and extroverts, it goes for people
Speaker 1: who are big picture people, it goes for people who
Speaker 1: really need to have everything scheduled down to a t.
Speaker 1: There's no right and wrong on this. And the other part,
Speaker 1: which I think is really important, is that this is
Speaker 1: painting everyone with a big broad brushstroke. Everybody displays characteristics
Speaker 1: from each personality type. You may be an extrovert, but
Speaker 1: there may be times in your life where you have
Speaker 1: introverted tendencies. Because we are humans, we are complex sentient beans.
Speaker 1: We don't just sit in one category. But we really
Speaker 1: like as humans to categorize things and to label things
Speaker 1: because it makes life a little bit easier for us.
Speaker 1: So I guess what this is is it's an overarching
Speaker 1: category that kind of oversimplifies someone's behavior in someone's characteristics,
Speaker 1: but it gives us a really good general understanding of
Speaker 1: who that person is at their very core and at
Speaker 1: their essence. I know they're not everybody agrees with personality tests,
Speaker 1: but I think it's because some people think, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: only going to date someone who is a good match
Speaker 1: for me when it comes to a personality test. That's
Speaker 1: a really stupid way of going about dating. It's also
Speaker 1: a really stupid way about employing someone. I think you
Speaker 1: employ the person who is the best person for the job,
Speaker 1: and you date whoever you have an incredible chemistry and
Speaker 1: attraction for and whose core values align with your core values. However,
Speaker 1: like I said, if you understand their personality and you
Speaker 1: understand where they sit on this personality spectrum, it allows
Speaker 1: you to deal with them on a much more personal
Speaker 1: and deeper level because you can kind of divvy out
Speaker 1: and go all right, they didn't mean that in the
Speaker 1: way that I'm taking it. We are just fundamentally different
Speaker 1: people when it comes to this subject. So what we
Speaker 1: are going to do with this conversation is that we're
Speaker 1: going to kind of talk about the four different dichotomies
Speaker 1: of what the Mayers Briggs is and we're going to
Speaker 1: break that down. And then we're also going to talk
Speaker 1: about Britain Jordan, and we're going to talk about me
Speaker 1: and Matt Me.
Speaker 2: That's all I can say. Well, before we jump into
Speaker 2: it too heavily, I just want to say, just so
Speaker 2: you can get your head around it. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of letters involved in this topic and this subject because
Speaker 2: when we say dicotomies, we're saying that basically there are
Speaker 2: four categories, which we call diaconomies, four diconomies. Now, they're
Speaker 2: made up of introvert, extrovert, intuitive or sensory thinking or feeling,
Speaker 2: and judging or perceiving. And once you do the test,
Speaker 2: you are told what you are with four letters. And
Speaker 2: the four letters, for example, could be I STP. That
Speaker 2: means it's telling you which part of each category you are,
Speaker 2: so I STP will be introvert, sensory thinking, per So.
Speaker 2: I hope this makes sense for you now. It's going
Speaker 2: to make a lot more sense when it's on your
Speaker 2: computer and it's in front of you. But I just
Speaker 2: wanted to give you a quick overview.
Speaker 1: Of that before we get into unpacking what we are.
Speaker 1: We're going to kind of break down what the different
Speaker 1: dichotomies are, and we're kind of going to explain what
Speaker 1: an extrovert is, what an introvert is, what a perceiver
Speaker 1: is versus a judger, and just kind of go through
Speaker 1: them to give you guys a bit of a base
Speaker 1: understanding of that. And then we're going to unpack what
Speaker 1: we are and also how we relate to our.
Speaker 2: Partner and what the hell Jordan is, which is not
Speaker 2: what I am, so to get into it. The first
Speaker 2: ecotomy is introvert and extrovert. I feel like the general
Speaker 2: population know a little bit about introverts and extroverts, but
Speaker 2: I think that we look at it in a very
Speaker 2: broad sense. I think we look at introverts as the
Speaker 2: hermit that doesn't want to come out of their house,
Speaker 2: and we look at extroverts as the person that wants
Speaker 2: all the attention, wants to be the life of the party.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot more to it than that. And
Speaker 2: this again, this is very very broad. This is not
Speaker 2: going to be one hundred percent absolute to every person
Speaker 2: that fits in this category. But overall, introverts you sort
Speaker 2: of always spending time on your own, and you get
Speaker 2: your energy and you get your recharge from being on
Speaker 2: your own, from being in a quiet place, from feeling
Speaker 2: really calm and just having your own thoughts. When you
Speaker 2: go out with people and you're around a big crowd,
Speaker 2: you get really really drained. Introverts also like to think
Speaker 2: before they speak, so they like to really really think
Speaker 2: about what's happening, what they want to say, the message
Speaker 2: they want to convey whereas somebody like myself, who's more
Speaker 2: of an extrovert, probably.
Speaker 1: I always say things and then we're like, we'll let
Speaker 1: it that out.
Speaker 2: I don't really have a filter. Let's be real, like
Speaker 2: it comes into my brain and in one second is
Speaker 2: out my mouth. So that's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: difference as well.
Speaker 1: Some one of the big things which I think you
Speaker 1: kind of touch on a little bit there, brit But
Speaker 1: like in regards to introverts and extroverts, we do look
Speaker 1: at this in a really oversimplified way in our day
Speaker 1: to day lives when we talk about extroverts and we
Speaker 1: talk about introverts. I think most people who have extroverted
Speaker 1: tendencies don't always necessarily see themselves as being extroverts. And
Speaker 1: I say this because both Britain and even though we
Speaker 1: fall very classically into being extroverts, we would describe ourselves
Speaker 1: as extroverted introverts. And when I unpacked this more and
Speaker 1: I did more research on this, what I realized is
Speaker 1: that yeah, we are actually one hundred percent always extroverts,
Speaker 1: but even somebody who is extroverted still has this is
Speaker 1: going to sound so complicated, but still has introverted tendencies.
Speaker 1: Just because you get your energy from being around people
Speaker 1: and you enjoy conversations and you know, like you really
Speaker 1: feel charged and happy when you're spending time with other people,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you can't also enjoy quiet times and
Speaker 1: need time to yourself. Like, like I said, we're all
Speaker 1: very complex beings and we can straddle two different personality
Speaker 1: categories at the same time, because that's the reality of
Speaker 1: being a human. Like, no human constantly wants to be
Speaker 1: just full of bombarded by other human company full stop.
Speaker 1: Like that doesn't mean that you're an extrovert. That just
Speaker 1: means you're probably a little bit crazy. But you know,
Speaker 1: we all need some levels of our own solitude and
Speaker 1: quiet time to recharge. But one thing that I found
Speaker 1: that was really interesting and something that I think if
Speaker 1: you are an extrovert and you're in a relationship with
Speaker 1: someone who's introverted, is that sometimes you might feel that
Speaker 1: there's a disconnect, like you might feel like you don't
Speaker 1: have one hundred percent access to that person because a
Speaker 1: lot of times extroverted people really prioritize deep connection, and
Speaker 1: we prioritize feeling like we completely know and understand another
Speaker 1: person and that's something that we really get a lot
Speaker 1: of bond and love from. But if you're dating someone
Speaker 1: who's introverted, you might feel like they're withholding something from you.
Speaker 1: And the reality is is they're not withholding something from you.
Speaker 1: They're giving you everything that they're able to give to you.
Speaker 1: But some true introverts need to keep something for themselves.
Speaker 1: And I think I looked back on some of my
Speaker 1: past relationships and when I read this and kind of
Speaker 1: really started to unpack this, I was like, wow, Actually,
Speaker 1: I think I have dated people who have fallen into
Speaker 1: that category and I felt like they weren't letting me in.
Speaker 1: But actually, really, in retrospect, maybe it was that they
Speaker 1: have a part of themselves that no one will ever access,
Speaker 1: and they were really trying to let me in, but
Speaker 1: it just wasn't quite enough because of my per personality type.
Speaker 2: Generally, also speaking, introverts are known as really good listeners
Speaker 2: because you don't want to be the one that's overpowering
Speaker 2: the conversation, and you actually really care about what your
Speaker 2: partner or your family member, whoever it is that's in
Speaker 2: your close little circle. You really do genuinely care about
Speaker 2: what they have to say. But a lot of people
Speaker 2: can stereotype you as shy, or a level of rude,
Speaker 2: or a level that may seem disinterested because you're not
Speaker 2: contributing to the conversation a lot when really you're processing.
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent there, you're listening and you're processing.
Speaker 2: So if that's you, it's also something to be hyper
Speaker 2: aware of that people can unfortunately perceive you in the
Speaker 2: wrong way. And we're going to talk about this in
Speaker 2: every little category. There are pros and cons to every category,
Speaker 2: but it's important we really reemphasize that there is no
Speaker 2: wrong category. If you fall into any of these, there
Speaker 2: is absolutely nothing wrong with that. All we are trying
Speaker 2: to do is bring to your attention so you can
Speaker 2: realize and have these really healthy relationships with your partner.
Speaker 2: You can also understand where they're coming from to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and open this like really authentic dialogue around who
Speaker 1: you are as people and not take things to offense
Speaker 1: that aren't meaning or intended to be offensive.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the biggest thing I've learned from this.
Speaker 1: Britt This is a question for you, and I think
Speaker 1: that this really comes out with his personality tests. Do
Speaker 1: you believe that opposites attract.
Speaker 2: Oh you're really You could have given me some warning
Speaker 2: on this one. No, I mean, I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 2: going to say yes because I am in love with
Speaker 2: the most opposite person you could find on this entire planet.
Speaker 2: And I cannot stress that enough. Jordan and I are
Speaker 2: so opposite.
Speaker 1: I actually can't fucking wait to unpack this personality type
Speaker 1: over here. I cannot wait for you to talk about
Speaker 1: your like who you are and who he is as
Speaker 1: a couple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're one hundred pay different people. But I do
Speaker 2: believe opposites attract, And I think that the reason that
Speaker 2: my relationships in the past haven't worked is because I've
Speaker 2: always been attracted to people that are very like me,
Speaker 2: very very similar, and then we're getting these relationships, we
Speaker 2: start dating, and the conflict is too overwhelming because you
Speaker 2: have these two personalities that are almost trying to compete
Speaker 2: with each other, and you don't even realize you're trying
Speaker 2: to compete. I think the only other relationship that I've had,
Speaker 2: the AE one that was really really long term, obviously
Speaker 2: and really serious, he was opposite to me. He was
Speaker 2: as opposite as it can get. So I think I
Speaker 2: definitely for me, I need someone that he's on the
Speaker 2: other end of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that's so so true in
Speaker 1: that maybe when somebody does have different characteristics to you,
Speaker 1: it can be a really grounding thing in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Like we said, there is no right and wrong and
Speaker 1: there is no reason why like people who are completely
Speaker 1: different can't have really fulfilling and awesome relationships. But we
Speaker 1: just serve and offer different things to our partner, which
Speaker 1: I think, you know, be wary about who you are
Speaker 1: as a person, but more important than anything is the
Speaker 1: values that your partner has and who they are as
Speaker 1: a person, not so much the personality test. It's just
Speaker 1: a nice way of unpacking them, I think.
Speaker 2: So the dichotomy to that is the extrovert. We all
Speaker 2: know the extrovert. They're the life of the party. They're
Speaker 2: the one that has so much energy. They're the one
Speaker 2: that brings motivation and brings energy. They're the one that
Speaker 2: holds the conversation. They're the one that makes you laugh.
Speaker 2: They're the one that can sometimes come across as a
Speaker 2: little bit overpowering. These are also the people that usually
Speaker 2: go and get the promotion at work, and it's not
Speaker 2: because they're better, but it's because the introvert is a
Speaker 2: little bit too shy or doesn't think they're deserving enough,
Speaker 2: or doesn't want to go and compete with the extrovert
Speaker 2: for the position. Yeah, they're more of like a campaigner.
Speaker 1: I guess like someone who's extroverted would have less of
Speaker 1: an issue vocalizing how they feel or how they think,
Speaker 1: because we're more outward with our expressions. So I feel
Speaker 1: like introvert extrovert is probably the most easy to understand
Speaker 1: out of all of the different dichotomies. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's the one that we probably at a base level,
Speaker 1: would understand and know without even having to have that
Speaker 1: explained to us. But the next one from this is
Speaker 1: intuition versus sensing. Now, intuition is more around the big picture.
Speaker 1: So people who are intuitive not a details person. They
Speaker 1: like to kind of look at a whole picture, or
Speaker 1: they're very like abstract in their thoughts and that's how
Speaker 1: they show up to the world. Whereas somebody who is
Speaker 1: more sensing, then they're that sort of person that is
Speaker 1: very detail orientated. They want to know times, they want
Speaker 1: to know specifics. They're probably the person who's when telling
Speaker 1: you a story about history. They know the dates and
Speaker 1: the names and all that sort of stuff, whereas like
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this guy named Carl Jong did some
Speaker 1: personality tests I think was around them. Who knows, early nineties.
Speaker 1: So it's a very different way of perceiving the world.
Speaker 1: And one is like very open and one is kind
Speaker 1: of more pointed in their direction.
Speaker 2: Next, economy guys is thinking versus feeling. Now think as
Speaker 2: a more matter of fact people. They like to make
Speaker 2: decisions very rationally, and they like to make them based
Speaker 2: on facts. So they don't want someone to come to
Speaker 2: them and say, I think we should give this a go.
Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen, but why not
Speaker 2: let's go in and try something new. They want to
Speaker 2: be like, well, what happens if this goes wrong and
Speaker 2: this goes wrong, you don't have this in place to
Speaker 2: fix that. They overthink everything and they really want a
Speaker 2: hard fact in front of them. They want something to
Speaker 2: grasp onto and they want to feel like they're more
Speaker 2: in control.
Speaker 1: I guess they're kind of more practical and pragmatic people,
Speaker 1: and I guess in a sense they're slightly more safe. However,
Speaker 1: safe kind of sounds like that's a negative, whereas it's
Speaker 1: really not. You know, they're just very reliable in their
Speaker 1: outlook and they want to have all the facts before
Speaker 1: making a decision.
Speaker 2: They're also not overly emotional. They take a step back
Speaker 2: from being emotional and they're definitely like you just said,
Speaker 2: they're more pragmatic. They're like, this is what it is.
Speaker 2: It's like this because of this, whereas a feel is
Speaker 2: going to be like, but I just really feel like
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to do this. They're more in touch with
Speaker 2: their emotions. So I think that as an overall is
Speaker 2: the main difference between the thinker and the feeler.
Speaker 1: And I guess you know, the thing that I can
Speaker 1: kind of pinpoint this down to is buying housing. For example,
Speaker 1: Like for someone who's a thinker.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're a heart verse head, totally right, And.
Speaker 1: It's like the most perfect example. Someone who's a thinker
Speaker 1: is going to buy property based on what the rental
Speaker 1: yield is, how that growth is going to be in
Speaker 1: that area, you know, what's the repayments on it. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a very well thought out strategy around
Speaker 1: buying a house. A feeler is going to have an
Speaker 1: emotional connection to a house. A feeler is going to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, look it's slightly out of our budget.
Speaker 1: Will make it work because I fucking love this old Queenslander.
Speaker 1: That's a feeler, you know, and.
Speaker 2: Ever think it's going to be like, but how will
Speaker 2: we make it work? It feels like we just will.
Speaker 1: And one of the really interesting things around this personality test,
Speaker 1: and the more when I looked into it in regards
Speaker 1: to relationships, people who are different in this category thinkers
Speaker 1: and feelers who don't agree. This is where the biggest
Speaker 1: problems can arise in a relationship because someone who's a feeler,
Speaker 1: someone who's like a big ideas person who maybe wants
Speaker 1: to go and start that new business, they might feel
Speaker 1: shut down by someone who's a thinker who's like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe that's not a good idea because we have two
Speaker 1: kids and a mortgage, and actually, you know what, we
Speaker 1: need to be sensible here. They might feel stifled. And
Speaker 1: maybe someone who's a thinker will feel disrespected by someone
Speaker 1: who's like, but I have all these ideas and ambitions
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go do them anyway. So there
Speaker 1: can be a really big mismatch in personalities with this
Speaker 1: one and I think like from all of the different
Speaker 1: upsets that you can have in relationships, that this is
Speaker 1: one that can be the most treacherous to try and
Speaker 1: overcome when you're mismatched in this area.
Speaker 2: The last dichotomy that we will tell you about is
Speaker 2: judging and perceiving. Now, this is a really big one,
Speaker 2: and this is more based around how you view the
Speaker 2: outside world. Judges prefer to be very very structured, and
Speaker 2: they really want to be organized. Everything is calibrated in
Speaker 2: a very certain way and very carefully. There's all these
Speaker 2: short and long term plans. They want to know where
Speaker 2: they're going and they want to know how they get there.
Speaker 2: People like this. They are like this because they really
Speaker 2: want to be in control of their environment at all times.
Speaker 2: They don't like to feel unsettled. They don't like to
Speaker 2: feel unstable. They don't like to feel unsure of what
Speaker 2: the future holds. They're usually really self disciplined and decisive.
Speaker 2: They know what they want and they know how to
Speaker 2: get there, and they're not really open to anyone else's
Speaker 2: opins in that, especially when they have their plan in
Speaker 2: place and they have the facts available.
Speaker 1: So the opposite end of the spectrum to this is perceivers,
Speaker 1: and now perceivers are more relaxed. I guess, like the
Speaker 1: perfect example for this is like we all have that
Speaker 1: one friend and maybe you are that one friend who
Speaker 1: when you go on holiday, has every day itinerize. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: on Monday, we're doing this. We're going to go to
Speaker 1: this winery and then we're gonna get picked up from
Speaker 1: here and we're going to go to this restaurant. They
Speaker 1: have everything booked in so that they know they're going
Speaker 1: to have a great time in their holiday.
Speaker 2: And nothing's going to be booked out. They're not going
Speaker 2: to miss out on anything.
Speaker 1: A perceiver is the total opposite. A perceiver is the
Speaker 1: person who books the flight at the last minute, hasn't
Speaker 1: booked accommodation when they rock up to the plays, has
Speaker 1: no fucking idea what they're going to do on a Tuesday,
Speaker 1: tries to call the restaurant, The restaurant's booked out, and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, whatever, we'll pick something else. They kind
Speaker 1: of thrive in chaos, I guess is a perceiver and
Speaker 1: someone who sits in that end of the spectrum. They
Speaker 1: don't like to be tied down by calendars. They don't
Speaker 1: really put meetings into their calendars. They just kind of
Speaker 1: try and store everything in their brain. Guilty.
Speaker 2: It's like you're literally saying me to a t I'm like,
Speaker 2: I have I don't know why, but I keep everything
Speaker 2: in my head. I refuse to have a diary.
Speaker 1: And this is the difference, right Like, And I think
Speaker 1: that somebody who is a judge versus perceiver, someone who's
Speaker 1: a judger who writes liss who is organized, a perceiver
Speaker 1: to them is absolute, utter fucking chaos. A perceiver is
Speaker 1: probably more inclined to have a messy bedroom, which Brittany
Speaker 1: is sitting in right now.
Speaker 2: This is like the actual perfect explanation of my sister
Speaker 2: Sherry and I the judging in the perceiving when we
Speaker 2: went traveling for years. She is definitely a judger, and
Speaker 2: I'm definitely a perceiver. She wasn't for her, I don't
Speaker 2: know where I would be. She's so organized. She knows
Speaker 2: where we're going, how to get there, she knows the
Speaker 2: best foods to be eating when we're there, the best transport. I,
Speaker 2: on the other hand, would turn up somewhere last minute.
Speaker 2: I would turn up to the airport and I'd be
Speaker 2: like what fly are we getting on, where we're going,
Speaker 2: what country we're going to today? Like I don't even
Speaker 2: have my pass for how I am the most disorganized
Speaker 2: person in that sense. I'm very spontaneous, and I'm very
Speaker 2: Sherry's very spontaneous too. I mean when we move overseas, right,
Speaker 2: we were like, WHOA, let's sell everything and move in
Speaker 2: a month. We both did that. She's very spontaneous, But
Speaker 2: then I wait till the night before to pack my
Speaker 2: bag for three years. She knew where we were going,
Speaker 2: she bought the ticket, she'd had a bag back for
Speaker 2: three weeks. We're just very, very different like that. But
Speaker 2: the reason her and I work is because we are
Speaker 2: opposites in that sense, and we balance each other. I
Speaker 2: only survived three years around the world because of Sheridan,
Speaker 2: and she probably only got well to my own horn here.
Speaker 2: I think she had a lot of fun, great experiences,
Speaker 2: and she probably lost some hair from stress due to me.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right. You can also change who
Speaker 1: you are slightly depending on who you were around. So
Speaker 1: if you are someone who kind of errs a little
Speaker 1: bit more on like the organizational side, but then you're
Speaker 1: spending your time with someone who's super organized.
Speaker 2: It might make you more relaxed.
Speaker 1: You know, it might make you go, okay, well, that
Speaker 1: personality trait is way stronger in that person. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to lean into them whilst they do all the
Speaker 1: itinery because I know it's something that they really care
Speaker 1: about and I don't care about it as much. So
Speaker 1: we do sometimes almost reflect each other's personality types. For example,
Speaker 1: if you're introvert and someone super extroverted, you might lean
Speaker 1: on the extrovert to kind of like cushion the conversation
Speaker 1: if you're out with them, whereas when you're on your
Speaker 1: own you probably stand a bit more on your own
Speaker 1: two feet and do it yourself. But if you've got
Speaker 1: someone there that you can kind of be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do any of the heavy lifting
Speaker 1: because you know, I know that I'm gonna be there
Speaker 1: with Sarah and she's gonna do that. Like, it does
Speaker 1: sort of go hand in hand that you can kind
Speaker 1: of leverage these different personality types off the people that
Speaker 1: you're spending time with, and it depends on the situation
Speaker 1: you're in. But that in a nutshell, I know it's
Speaker 1: a lot to kind of decompress. But that is all
Speaker 1: the different dichotomies which make up what Mayers brigs are.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna put the personality test in the show
Speaker 1: notes so that you guys can do it yourselves. And
Speaker 1: this will make so much more sense when you can
Speaker 1: actually sit down and read what is your personality type
Speaker 1: and what are the different letters that reflect who you are?
Speaker 1: And then you can kind of go back to what
Speaker 1: we've just said and be like, Aha, that is me
Speaker 1: to at.
Speaker 2: So let's tell everybody what we all are. So Laura,
Speaker 2: myself and Matt. So we made Matt and Jordan do
Speaker 2: it like we said, Laura, myself and Matt are all
Speaker 2: E ANDFP. Now I'm gonna give you a little brief
Speaker 2: rundown of what the site told me E NFP was.
Speaker 2: NFP is known as the champion I feel like such
Speaker 2: a way guard reading this, guys.
Speaker 1: This is not I didn't write this, This is not
Speaker 1: this is not leg or dope.
Speaker 2: No, this is what it said. It said The champion
Speaker 2: E NFPs are people centered creators with a focus on
Speaker 2: possibilities and a contagious enthusiasm for new ideas, people and activities. Energetic, warm,
Speaker 2: and passionate. E NFPs love to help other people explore
Speaker 2: their creative potential. Now that didn't sound too bad to me.
Speaker 2: But then the next part is the performer. E NFPs
Speaker 2: are vivacious entertainers who charm and engage those around them.
Speaker 2: They are spontaneous, energetic, fun loving, and take pleasure in
Speaker 2: the things around them food, clothes, nature, animals and people.
Speaker 2: Now that is definitely me because I'm We all know
Speaker 2: I spend more money than my rent on food everywhere.
Speaker 1: Are you guys not charmed?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It basically just says that we want
Speaker 2: to be the life of the party. We want to
Speaker 2: be overachievers. We work hard, but we want people to
Speaker 2: like us at the same time, and just a these
Speaker 2: little characteristics, I was like, Oh, the more I read
Speaker 2: about it, the more I'm like, do I like this person?
Speaker 2: But individually I think it's great and I do think
Speaker 2: a lot of it suits me. Now this is based
Speaker 2: around being more on the extroverted side. But what I
Speaker 2: want to say is when we say that you can't
Speaker 2: just stereotype. Whilst yes, I feel like personally, when I
Speaker 2: try to analyze myself psychoanalyze myself, if I go out
Speaker 2: to an a evan or a party. I love to
Speaker 2: be the life of the party. I want to make
Speaker 2: people feel good. I want to make people laugh. I
Speaker 2: will talk to anyone underwater, whether I know them or
Speaker 2: they're strangers. Nothing makes me uncomfortable in all honesty, really,
Speaker 2: I can't think of much that makes me uncomfortable. I
Speaker 2: could turn up somewhere by myself and feel okay. So
Speaker 2: when I'm on, I'm on, and when i'm there, i'm great.
Speaker 2: Getting me there is the hard part, and keeping me
Speaker 2: there is the hard part, because I don't recharge that way.
Speaker 2: A lot of extroverts that's where they get their energy from.
Speaker 2: But I get my energy from being at home, being
Speaker 2: on my own, having some quiet, being with my own
Speaker 2: thoughts on the lounge, and that is a bit more
Speaker 2: of an introverted side. So I think this is a
Speaker 2: really great example of how you can get these results.
Speaker 2: And when you get the results, you'll see them. It'll
Speaker 2: tell you a percentage match. It'll be like ninety five
Speaker 2: percent extroverted and you know, five percent introverted. You can
Speaker 2: still have aspects of both, it's just what's more of you.
Speaker 2: So I think it's accurate in the sense that I'm
Speaker 2: definitely like, I want to be out and talking and
Speaker 2: I'm really confident in that sense, but I don't get
Speaker 2: my energy from that. I feel quite drained from that.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting, though, that you read what this
Speaker 1: breakdown is and then sort of said, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know whether I necessarily like the person that it describes.
Speaker 1: The reality is is like we all have great characteristics
Speaker 1: about ourselves, and we all have characteristics that we don't
Speaker 1: like about ourselves. You know, to say someone's an overachiever,
Speaker 1: or to say that someone really wants other people to
Speaker 1: like them, those things in and of themselves aren't bad qualities.
Speaker 1: You know, of course you want other people to like you.
Speaker 1: It's what also means that you stay and are a
Speaker 1: good person and you know, don't do shitty things by
Speaker 1: other people. And being an overachiever is not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: It just shows that you know, you've got ambition and
Speaker 1: you really want to do well in your career. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we have negative connotations to words and we
Speaker 1: kind of have an attachment to them where we think, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't like who that person is. But when you
Speaker 1: break down what that actually means, it's not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things I think is interesting
Speaker 1: about this whole idea of doing a personality test. No
Speaker 1: one is bad. None of these personality types are negative.
Speaker 1: It's just that we display things differently. They have their pros,
Speaker 1: they have their cons, and in different situations, something that
Speaker 1: could be a negative might actually be a positive. So
Speaker 1: it's just a really interesting way of better knowing who
Speaker 1: you are. And like Britt said, we got Matt and
Speaker 1: Jordan to do these tests, and for us, I think
Speaker 1: it was so interesting. I wasn't surprised at all. Like
Speaker 1: Matt is also an E ANDFP. We are so incredibly
Speaker 1: similar and that was one of the things that really
Speaker 1: attracted me to Matt, not because I want to date myself,
Speaker 1: but because.
Speaker 2: That is me with a penis, so I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: totally fantastic.
Speaker 1: But also it's more so that, like I felt like
Speaker 1: when we very first met that we had known each
Speaker 1: other for fever, Like we have this really deep connection.
Speaker 2: And I think part of that is because we are
Speaker 2: so so.
Speaker 1: Similar as people that it didn't take me a long
Speaker 1: time to feel like I fully understood him because we
Speaker 1: just shared so much in common. The flip side to
Speaker 1: that is is that we fight in the exact same way,
Speaker 1: and we're both really, really fucking stubborn, and we both
Speaker 1: dig our heels in and we are agitated by the
Speaker 1: same things in the other person. So, for example, when
Speaker 1: Matt does something like maybe it's a tone thing that
Speaker 1: he said, something that's made me get frustrated, I will
Speaker 1: arc up at him, but then he will aark up
Speaker 1: in me for the exact same types of things. So
Speaker 1: it's almost like sometimes I think with retrospect, we could
Speaker 1: be a little bit more allowing of the other person
Speaker 1: because we are so similar, but then we hold each
Speaker 1: other to a different level of accountability. And sometimes reading
Speaker 1: through these personality types it makes you go, ah, okay,
Speaker 1: I can be a little bit more gentle with things
Speaker 1: that I better understand.
Speaker 2: Now do you read what you are and think that
Speaker 2: it's accurate? Did you find it was accurate? So accurate? Right?
Speaker 2: Okay to a t Now to talk to me about Jordan.
Speaker 2: So Jordan, I asked, God bless him. He does everything
Speaker 2: I ask him to do. I messaged him. This was
Speaker 2: only yesterday and he was getting on a flight and
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I just have a quick hundred
Speaker 2: questions for you to fill out. I was like, if
Speaker 2: you could also get back to me. He's like, is
Speaker 2: this a test, as in not a test, but like
Speaker 2: a relationship test? And I was like, well, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I was like, it is, but not a test for us.
Speaker 2: I was like, I just physically, I'm doing it for
Speaker 2: the podcast and I want to know what you are. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he came back as ISTJ. And they've said that that
Speaker 2: is like the inspector. That's the way they've summed it up.
Speaker 2: Very briefly, I'll read what his came back as Istj's
Speaker 2: are responsible organizers driven to create enforce order with systems
Speaker 2: and institutions. They are very neat and orderly inside end
Speaker 2: out and tend to have a procedure for everything they do.
Speaker 2: Everything is very very structured, and they prefer to approach
Speaker 2: life with order. They like things very planned and scheduled,
Speaker 2: and dislike unexpected changes. They dislike spontaneity, which is like
Speaker 2: not great for me, because I'm like, hey, let's move
Speaker 2: overseas tomorrow. He also came back as more introverted than extroverted,
Speaker 2: so he came back at sixty seven percent introverted and
Speaker 2: thirty percent extroverted. And mine came back completely opposite. So
Speaker 2: I came back as seventy percent extroverted and thirty percent introverted.
Speaker 2: He also came back with being more of a thinker
Speaker 2: than a feeler. I was more of a feeler than
Speaker 2: a thinker. So he wants to literally dissect everything that
Speaker 2: he said to him and think about the best response,
Speaker 2: think about the best outcome, think about how he can
Speaker 2: go about it, Whereas I'm a very deep feeler and
Speaker 2: I say what I'm thinking without overly thinking it. I
Speaker 2: feel very deeply and I really want that deep emotional connection.
Speaker 2: This is where we've sort of we're butting heads a
Speaker 2: little bit because I want this really really passionate emotional
Speaker 2: response from him, and he wants to really think about
Speaker 2: everything I say, and he does it in a really
Speaker 2: strung way, and I want all this spontaneity. And he
Speaker 2: likes his routine. He knows what he wants to do
Speaker 2: in the day in his head. He's like, oh, but
Speaker 2: I'd already planned to do it this way. So when
Speaker 2: I want to throw a curveball and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's go nuts and go here, He's like, but we
Speaker 2: always go here, Like I, you know, I hadn't planned
Speaker 2: on that, and it hasn't been a problem at all.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely something that we're working on and it's
Speaker 2: not an issue because we're both open to it, and
Speaker 2: I'm really open with him. I'll be like, yo, like,
Speaker 2: you need to give me some more emotion here, because
Speaker 2: I'm really needing that. That's who I am. I'm a
Speaker 2: feeler And he's like, but you know, I love you.
Speaker 2: He thinks that he can say that and he can
Speaker 2: convey that in other ways and that's enough, whereas it
Speaker 2: one hundred percent is enough because I know it. But
Speaker 2: as a feeler, I'm like, smother me still, literally lay
Speaker 2: your body on me, tell me how much you love me,
Speaker 2: pat my head, and kiss me.
Speaker 1: But did you find at all that doing this test
Speaker 1: gave you a little bit more of like a black
Speaker 1: and white insight into who he is as a person.
Speaker 1: And when you read that out, does it make you
Speaker 1: go So I get that, Like I get that none
Speaker 1: of this action or none of this behavior is malicious
Speaker 1: and that this is just him being him.
Speaker 2: Totally, and he's the same. Like we both did it,
Speaker 2: and I said, do you think my results are accurate?
Speaker 2: Because we sent each other results, and he's like yes,
Speaker 2: He's like one hundred percent. He's like, you're so needy
Speaker 2: and I was like, squeeze me, I am not needing.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, you literally are. And I'm like okay, fat.
Speaker 2: I was like, do you think that yours is accurate?
Speaker 2: And he's like absolutely, He's like we can both see
Speaker 2: what we are. And I think it's really nice because
Speaker 2: then we spoke about it and we told each other,
Speaker 2: you know, what we feel like we need from the
Speaker 2: other person in this sense, and it was just a
Speaker 2: really nice open conversation and it helps me understand where
Speaker 2: he's at, where he's thinking, and he understands where I'm
Speaker 2: at where I'm thinking. And then the most important thing
Speaker 2: to do, especially if you're on the opposite side to
Speaker 2: your partner, you need to be able to understand what
Speaker 2: they need and what they want, and you have to
Speaker 2: meet them halfway. So, for an example, an introvert and
Speaker 2: an extrovert can have a really really great, wonderful relationship,
Speaker 2: but only if each other comes to the table. The
Speaker 2: extrovert is going to need you to come out with them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're going to need you to come to the party.
Speaker 2: They're going to want you to go and do something
Speaker 2: spontaneous and outside of your comfort zone. And likewise, the
Speaker 2: introvert's going to want you, as an extrovert as a partner,
Speaker 2: to sometimes stay home with them, to watch a movie,
Speaker 2: to stay in, to stay quiet, just to have a
Speaker 2: really calm, structured sunday. It's never ever going to work
Speaker 2: if neither of you will compromise, and if you're both
Speaker 2: living in your little bubble to the extreme. And I
Speaker 2: mean we say that all the time relationships of any sense, family, friends, partners, romantic,
Speaker 2: it's compromised. You're never going to meet someone ever. And
Speaker 2: if you do, I take my hat off to you.
Speaker 2: You're never going to meet someone where it's smooth saying
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time and there's no compromise.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you perfectly nailed it. Then, Brett
Speaker 1: as well, with the idea of like being outside of
Speaker 1: your comfort zone. I actually think it's great to date
Speaker 1: people who are different to you that challenge you to
Speaker 1: do things. I mean, it's not good for an introvert
Speaker 1: person to spend all their time inside and staying completely
Speaker 1: inside their comfort zone. Like what a boring life that
Speaker 1: would be it's not good for an extroverted person to
Speaker 1: always be out and just you know, chasing tail.
Speaker 2: But like we date in tail anymore? How all the way?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you date people who are different to you, who
Speaker 1: challenge you in different ways, who have different personalities to you,
Speaker 1: who put you outside your comfort zone, not to a
Speaker 1: point where it gives your anxiety, not to a point
Speaker 1: where you feel wild and out of control. That's not healthy.
Speaker 1: But it's healthy to live life often outside your comfort
Speaker 1: zone because that's where growth happens. That's where you are
Speaker 1: challenged to be, you know, a better person, a slightly
Speaker 1: different person.
Speaker 2: That's how you learn.
Speaker 1: That's how we change as people, and that is so
Speaker 1: important to our constant evolution of.
Speaker 2: Who we are.
Speaker 1: So I really love that you touched on that because
Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the biggest things about
Speaker 1: this idea of a personality test, is like, do it
Speaker 1: with your partner, sit down and then unpack, and maybe
Speaker 1: it'll give you a better insight into who they are
Speaker 1: and what they need from you, and also what you
Speaker 1: need from them and how you can compromise.
Speaker 2: All Right, I know that this was probably like a
Speaker 2: whole lot of word vomit. There are a lot of
Speaker 2: words in there, There are a lot of initials and
Speaker 2: letters in there, there are a lot of dichotomies. We
Speaker 2: did cover a lot, and I feel like we tried
Speaker 2: our best to cover it well in a really condensed episode,
Speaker 2: because you could talk about this forever, like there is
Speaker 2: so much to it.
Speaker 1: And we did so much reading and research in regards
Speaker 1: to this before we actually got started, so we wanted
Speaker 1: to present this to you in like the most palatable
Speaker 1: and edible way. We wanted to make sure that it
Speaker 1: was something that you guys would fully understand and be
Speaker 1: able to unpack. But we hope that you got something
Speaker 1: from this episode and that you know it helps you
Speaker 1: to be able to have better conversations with your partners.
Speaker 1: Exact same reason as to why we did the Love
Speaker 1: Languages episode and why we did the Attachment Theory episode,
Speaker 1: because you can go and sit on the couch now
Speaker 1: and have a chat to your partner and kind of
Speaker 1: see how you guys relate with each other and maybe
Speaker 1: open up a whole new way of communicating.
Speaker 2: Like when we showed you guys Attachment Style quiz and
Speaker 2: the Love Languages quiz. I can't stress enough how many
Speaker 2: people wrote into us saying basically, thank you for just
Speaker 2: letting us know these even exist, because they did it
Speaker 2: with their partners and they had such a good outcome
Speaker 2: from it. They were like, I had no idea that
Speaker 2: what I was doing for him wasn't doing what I
Speaker 2: thought it was. I didn't know that they were getting
Speaker 2: anything from it. I thought I was showing them my love,
Speaker 2: but they didn't get it. And I think personally, I
Speaker 2: made Jordan do the Love Languages quiz about a month
Speaker 2: or two ago because I was really interested and I
Speaker 2: felt like there were some mismatches happening and I learnt
Speaker 2: so much. I mentioned it on the podcast a little
Speaker 2: while ago. But I sent him a gift basically, and
Speaker 2: I didn't get the response that I wanted, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh okay. I was a bit upset by that,
Speaker 2: And then he did the Love Languages. We spoke about it.
Speaker 2: Gifts for him are zero percent. They don't even register,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know that, and that's now why I
Speaker 2: will never give him a gift. Forget I'm I'm always
Speaker 2: my money. I'll make him a fucking cardboard card with
Speaker 2: a you know, some.
Speaker 1: Silly don't even do it, just don't even bother just
Speaker 1: telling me looks pretty.
Speaker 2: But for me, that's how I want to show love,
Speaker 2: especially in long distance. But for him it just doesn't
Speaker 2: register as him. He would rather me write a nice
Speaker 2: message like words of affirmation or quality time and things
Speaker 2: like that. So that's straight away. By doing that and
Speaker 2: talking about it with each other straight away, we're in
Speaker 2: a one hundred percent better place because I was like, cool,
Speaker 2: I get it now, this is why you don't respond.
Speaker 2: I'm saving my money and never buying you anything again.
Speaker 2: So I think, if you haven't done the love languages,
Speaker 2: go and do that. If you haven't done the attachment style,
Speaker 2: go and do that, and definitely definitely do the Meis
Speaker 2: Briggs personality test. Do it with your partner. We've put
Speaker 2: in the show notes, have some fun. And if you
Speaker 2: do this and you do it with your partner and
Speaker 2: you think it's going to help you, let us know
Speaker 2: because we want to know that you guys are getting
Speaker 2: things from this.
Speaker 1: You are getting so much homework tonight.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: We don't have to do it.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do it stat but I think
Speaker 2: it's a really great thing. It's bonding as well. It's
Speaker 2: a really great thing to do with your partner, especially
Speaker 2: if you're long term, because shit can get boring long term.
Speaker 2: I feel really attacked by how you looked at me
Speaker 2: just then.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, you know that we never finished an
Speaker 1: episode without our suck and our sweet, our highlight and
Speaker 1: our low light of each and every week.
Speaker 2: Brittany, you can go first, Okay, mind, pretty easy.
Speaker 1: My suck is so I.
Speaker 2: Don't actually know if we've spoken about it yet. I
Speaker 2: put on my Instagram the other day guys that I
Speaker 2: am going overseas to see Jordan in it. So only
Speaker 2: about five weeks now, and I'll be gone for about
Speaker 2: two months, so that's super super exciting. Yeah, we haven't
Speaker 2: even unpacked that, so there, that's it. We'll talk about
Speaker 2: it as the weeks are coming on. But because of that,
Speaker 2: Laura and I are really really trying to compensate and
Speaker 2: get ahead of our records. We're trying to get a
Speaker 2: lot of the business side done, and we're trying to
Speaker 2: get into a place where we feel like we're comfortable to,
Speaker 2: you know, do the podcast by.
Speaker 1: Distance and if it is pissing off for a really
Speaker 1: long time, and we need to make sure that we
Speaker 1: have episodes banged so that we're not abandoning you guys.
Speaker 2: We'll still be recording long distance as well. I'm taking
Speaker 2: my equipment, but we still wanted to just in case
Speaker 2: something went wrong and there was Wi Fi issues or
Speaker 2: something on the other side of the world. We wanted
Speaker 2: to make sure we had a lot of good shit
Speaker 2: to give you. In order to do that, it has
Speaker 2: been mental. We are like just running around like chickens
Speaker 2: with his head cut off because we're essentially trying to
Speaker 2: condense eight weeks into the next few weeks. So life
Speaker 2: is mental. We've both had a few little moments and
Speaker 2: breakdowns over the past or the past week especially, I
Speaker 2: think also because I'm getting my period. Too much information
Speaker 2: for you guys, but I'm highly emotional anyway. And then
Speaker 2: Jordan and I are doing this long distancing that is
Speaker 2: so stressful. I haven't been speaking to him because he's
Speaker 2: been traveling a lot. Then we've been trying to do
Speaker 2: all this on top and we both just had our moments.
Speaker 2: But that's my suck. My suite is one hundred percent
Speaker 2: the life uncut and meet up that we had on
Speaker 2: the weekend if you guys missed it. There was a
Speaker 2: little Eastern Suburbs Bond and I meet up with a
Speaker 2: bunch of amazing girls and Laura and I went and
Speaker 2: crashed it and I just left feeling it. We both did.
Speaker 2: We both message each other as soon as we left,
Speaker 2: and we were like, that was just so good. This
Speaker 2: is why we do it. We love it. People are
Speaker 2: making friends, people are having these great relationships because of
Speaker 2: this community. So for me, that is I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a sweet every single week, but for me to see
Speaker 2: firsthand in real life what is actually happening because of
Speaker 2: this community. Guys, it warmed my heart. You want you
Speaker 2: won me over? Girlfriend? You stole my sweet?
Speaker 1: Can we have the same? BRIT's so right. It is
Speaker 1: honestly like the most amazing thing to be able to. Like,
Speaker 1: we were there at the meetup and then when we left,
Speaker 1: I called Brit straight away.
Speaker 2: We're in our own separate cars, and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I love our little community. Ah
Speaker 1: and just like was feeling so recharged and buzzing after
Speaker 1: what had been a really really stressful week. So as
Speaker 1: much as like what you guys get out of the podcast,
Speaker 1: we get so much more out of it as well,
Speaker 1: and we're just so totally grateful for everybody who listens
Speaker 1: and for all your feedback, all of your reviews, all
Speaker 1: of your subscribing, everything that you have done for us,
Speaker 1: Like we cannot thank you enough for how much this
Speaker 1: podcast has grown and how much it means to us
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm gonna like do my suck and
Speaker 1: sweet and reverse because that's definitely my sweet as well.
Speaker 2: You always break the rules. I got a mattress, a
Speaker 2: new mattress that's really important to actually so exciting. Another
Speaker 2: thing that shows your age. But I'm like a good mattress.
Speaker 2: You can't like money doesn't matter when it comes to
Speaker 2: a mattress because you spend more time in bed than
Speaker 2: a lot of other places in your life.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of like showing your age, I've had such
Speaker 1: significant back pain since having Lola that that is why
Speaker 1: we went and bought a mattress. So I am a
Speaker 1: decrepant old lady who has a bougie mattress and I'm
Speaker 1: very very happy. None of this out of the box stuff.
Speaker 2: Laura's been sleeping some nights on the floor because she
Speaker 2: found the floor more comfortable than her mattress. Yeah, that's insane,
Speaker 2: like that is She told me that, and I was like, girl,
Speaker 2: I don't understand. The problem is go and get a
Speaker 2: mattress tomorrow. Hard.
Speaker 1: Breastfeeding is hard, Okay anyway, So that is my sweet
Speaker 1: and my suck. Actually, do you know what, We're are
Speaker 1: literally the same person this week. My suck is the same.
Speaker 1: It's been trying to juggle two kids, two jobs, and
Speaker 1: a partner. I have felt like in the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks that I just don't have anything left in
Speaker 1: my cup for myself. And you know, as much as
Speaker 1: we absolutely, like I said, we love doing this podcast,
Speaker 1: and as much as I love and feel so grateful
Speaker 1: for the work that I get to do with you know,
Speaker 1: Tony May, and also with this, there's definitely been some
Speaker 1: days recently where I come home and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I am empty and there's nothing left, and I feel
Speaker 1: very sad, and it's hard to just turn it on
Speaker 1: and be like and here we are, ready for the podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to life on Cut.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, we try and keep things as
Speaker 1: authentic on here as possible, and I know that we
Speaker 1: share the ups and downs of what we're all going through,
Speaker 1: and I definitely have shared a lot about my parenting
Speaker 1: journey on here as well. But sometimes it's difficult to
Speaker 1: shoup each week and be super super stroked and positive.
Speaker 1: But you guys give us so much energy and you
Speaker 1: are the reason why we keep doing this, so we're.
Speaker 2: So grateful for that. And also because we love each other.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, totally. Sometimes we're like, if we have to
Speaker 2: see each other for one more minute this week, we
Speaker 2: spend more time with each other. And it's like one am,
Speaker 2: it's twelve pm, it's seven am. It's all sorts of times.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right And one of the things
Speaker 1: that I love about being able to do this podcast
Speaker 1: is that even and I'm going to I love you
Speaker 1: hand holding hands now, guys? Is that gross? Is having
Speaker 1: someone who you are such good friends with, who you
Speaker 1: know I feel like brit is like a sister to me.
Speaker 1: We have our fights, we have our makeups, our friendship
Speaker 1: has gotten better and better over the years, so I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful for that as well.
Speaker 2: I'm still mind blowing that it's years, plural years. I
Speaker 2: know you are stuck, Bucky. Guys, that is it from us.
Speaker 2: We hope you absolutely love the episode. A little bit
Speaker 2: of housekeeping quickly if you're interested in these meetups, because
Speaker 2: we have had a lot of people actually on the
Speaker 2: Facebook groups still not knowing where to find them. People
Speaker 2: in our dms that saw this meetup group on our Instagram,
Speaker 2: you can jump onto our Facebook group. We have a
Speaker 2: Facebook group called Life Uncut Podcast. Within the group are
Speaker 2: all these little meetup groups. Now. People have just made
Speaker 2: these individually for whatever location they're in, and then you
Speaker 2: can just join the group.
Speaker 1: They all meet up.
Speaker 2: They do different things. A couple of people meet up
Speaker 2: at a time, the whole groups meet up at a time.
Speaker 2: They've had boat parties with like sixty seventy people. It's
Speaker 2: actually mind blowing. So if you're interested for any reason
Speaker 2: that you want to meet people, you can go with
Speaker 2: a bunch of your friends. There's so much fun, so
Speaker 2: just jump on there. Also, you know, to keep your
Speaker 2: questions coming in to a Life Uncut podcast on the instead,
Speaker 2: and also you're accidentally unfiltered.
Speaker 1: And if you love the episode, leave a review, subscribe.
Speaker 2: You know, just do all the things.
Speaker 1: Tell your mum, to your dad, to your dog, take
Speaker 1: your cat, tell your friend up the road name Jake,
Speaker 1: and tell your copy guy. Because Maybe he wants to
Speaker 1: listen to you and share the love because we love
Speaker 1: love