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Speaker 1: We've had an incredibly wet weekend.

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Speaker 2: There is so much rain about even this morning, so

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Speaker 2: if you are out on the road, please make sure

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Speaker 2: that you've got those lights on and take care. But

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Speaker 2: it has seen some flooding across some parts of the

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Speaker 2: top End region. And joining me in the studio right

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Speaker 2: now is the Chief Minister of the Northern Territory and

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Speaker 2: Attasha Files.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 2: Now, Chief Minister, how are things looking across the Top

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Speaker 2: End right now when it comes to flooding any areas

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Speaker 2: of concern?

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Speaker 4: Well, as you just said, and I think for anyone

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Speaker 4: that just looks out the window, there's certainly very heavy

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen significant flooding.

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Speaker 4: There's been isolated flooding, so we do really encourage people

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Speaker 4: to take care, slow down. Some of the roads have

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Speaker 4: got water over them, they're still passable, and we're closely

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Speaker 4: monitoring our communities, particularly that Victoria Daily Districts. There's no

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Speaker 4: plans to evacuate the Daily River community presently, but as

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Speaker 4: we know, Katie, things can change very rapidly, very quickly,

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Speaker 4: and just like to acknowledge the Bureau of Meteorology and

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Speaker 4: all of our workers that have worked through the weekend

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Speaker 4: monitoring because it's not just about roads and getting about

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Speaker 2: And so at this point in time, are we tracking

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Speaker 4: So, as I just said, probably that Victoria Daily Districts

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Speaker 4: are the ones we're watching closely. Things are just at

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Speaker 4: a minor and moderate level presently, so there's not any

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Speaker 4: specific concerns or messaging to evacuate, but things can change quickly,

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Speaker 4: so our officials are closely monitoring these situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep a very close eye on things. And

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Speaker 2: certainly for any of our listeners, if you are heading

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Speaker 2: about anywhere, jump on the Secure and Tea website. You

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Speaker 2: can find all the information on the in terms of

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Speaker 2: flooding across the roads and that kind of thing. But

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Speaker 2: please take care if you are driving around this morning. Now,

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, let's move along to another issue which is

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Speaker 2: impacting territorians and a shocking incident that's left a senior

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Speaker 2: volunteer shaken after three ten ages armed with a large

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Speaker 2: stick stormed the Palmeston Red Cross shop late last week. Now,

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Speaker 2: despite putting up a fight, they stole the elderly woman's

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Speaker 2: car before crashing it in Molden. The vision from the

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Speaker 2: incident which happened on Thursday and saw these teenagers dodging

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Speaker 2: and weaving through traffic around the Greater Darwin region.

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Speaker 1: It's shocking. Staff.

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Speaker 2: Have you watched that vision and seen the way that

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Speaker 2: that stolen car was being driven around Darwit?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I haven't seen the vision yet, but I will

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Speaker 4: make sure that I see it. But it's not acceptable behavior.

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Speaker 4: It won't be tolerated. It's appalling, particularly someone that's giving

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do you feel like knowing that you've

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Speaker 2: then got a situation where there's these three elderly women

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Speaker 2: one of them allegedly only thirteen, holding up those volunteers

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Speaker 1: My understanding is that there was also a knife involved.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken over the weekend and we are going to

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Speaker 2: they're incredibly shaken, like that's life changing stuff for all

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Speaker 2: the wrong reasons. And my understanding is that two of

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Speaker 2: like I think, to me, it sort of encapsulates exactly

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Speaker 2: the frustrations that a lot of Territorians have got right now.

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Speaker 4: It makes me sick to my stomach, Katie. And it's unacceptable,

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Speaker 4: and it's where as our society got to when young

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Speaker 4: There is no excuse for it on anyone, but I

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Speaker 4: I understand, have been arrested, Katie, and it's before the courts,

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Speaker 4: but absolutely appalling behavior.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there are any measures or meaningful

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Speaker 2: I don't think our listeners sort of need to rehear that,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Katie, we will not give up. We will leave

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Speaker 4: And that's around working with families when children start to

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Speaker 2: I guess the thing is, you know, a society hasn't

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Speaker 2: They're really frustrated, really upset with what is going on,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you know, to then here that two

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, we have amended the Bail Act to expand

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Speaker 4: the list of prescribed defenses, and so that means there's

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Speaker 4: no presumption of bail given to offenses such as unlawful entry,

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Speaker 4: unlawful use of a motor vehicle, assault of a worker,

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Speaker 2: So from your understanding, they would now have been arrested

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Speaker 4: So Katie, that would be my understanding, and police would

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Speaker 2: Like the theft of a vehicle is one of those things. Correct, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So do you feel as though at this point in

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Speaker 4: Katie, if it's evidence based, absolutely, so. We need to

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Speaker 4: we have done and we will continue to do into

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Speaker 4: the future. And these issues are complicated. They are looking

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Speaker 2: All Right, I guess you know the thing is right

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Speaker 2: now and you know this, I think I've said it

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Speaker 2: to you on so many occasions that people are just

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Speaker 2: I guess what they're wanting to see from the government

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Speaker 3: Katie.

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Speaker 4: So there's forty five young people I understand in youth

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Speaker 4: is absolutely young people being held to account for their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I get that.

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Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say, and I said the same

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Speaker 1: In jail and you know, throw away the key.

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Speaker 2: It's that they just want to see some change to

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Speaker 4: And Katie, the work that's taken place on Grood Island,

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Speaker 4: five hundreds down to around twenty I understand, in a year.

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Speaker 4: And they've done that through engaging local leadership, having programs

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Speaker 2: So I have heard that, and I've seen that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm interested to see that. You know that we're able

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Speaker 1: At the moment is working or not.

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Speaker 2: But I'd be also, you know, interested to see at

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Speaker 4: Absolutely and the basis for that, and I'll seek advice

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Speaker 4: on those figures, Katie. But god Island has taken a

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Speaker 2: And so how do you do something like that though

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Speaker 2: make that kind of change. Like I guess in somewhere

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Speaker 4: Katie, I think you can still do it because these

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Speaker 4: individuals their families are known, sadly within our system. And

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Speaker 4: so that's the work that is undertaken, the grinding, hard work,

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Speaker 4: and it's around putting in place in evidence based approaches.

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Speaker 4: So we had a Royal Commission into the detention of

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Speaker 4: young people, and many people get caught up in the

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Speaker 4: headline of building a new don Dale, but that Royal

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Speaker 4: Commission did outline to us based on evidence, based on

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Speaker 4: all the presentations and people attending that the measures that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So we're so many years since that Royal Commission now

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't seem to have gotten better.

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Speaker 1: It seems to have gotten worse.

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, in terms of young people, we know that

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Speaker 4: and that's obviously disappointing because there's more. But in saying that,

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Speaker 4: we will see them reform their behavior.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm going to move along because there is

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Speaker 2: This morning and on Friday, the Police Association president joined

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Speaker 2: survey results. So Paul McHugh said that the results should

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Speaker 2: ninety seven percent of Territory police saying that they do

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Speaker 1: Do you think we've got enough police?

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Speaker 4: So, Katie absolutely respect the Northern Charritory Police Association, the

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Speaker 4: Minister for Police and myself talked to Paul mcew as

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Speaker 4: take these survey results very seriously. I guess Katie, for me,

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Speaker 4: police have had a significant increase in budget one hundred

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Speaker 4: yet to have offices, and I absolutely believe what they're

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Speaker 3: We certainly have more work to do.

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Speaker 1: So do you think we've got enough police.

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, from my perspective, we provide that budget and

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Speaker 4: that overall figure has increased, and that one hundred and

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Speaker 4: is over thirty percent increased to the police budget since

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Speaker 4: we've come to government. But to have offices say that

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Speaker 2: So I guess it's a pretty simple question though, do

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Speaker 2: that you're saying we've got a big budget there, but

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Speaker 2: if they're saying they don't feel there's enough of them

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Speaker 2: If them you're saying they've got a big budget, it

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Speaker 4: So Katie, the police commissioner operationalizes that budget, so he

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Speaker 4: puts the allocation where it needs to go. I know

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Speaker 4: that we have a number of police, Katie, that are

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Speaker 4: I absolutely respect their health and wellbeing. We need to

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Speaker 4: work so radatically, Katie, Yes, and I think that we

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Speaker 4: need to. When someone is unwell, absolutely that has to

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Speaker 4: we can't. I guess where I'm coming to it is

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Speaker 4: if you working in a team and there's an allocation

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Speaker 1: So many are we talking.

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Speaker 3: I don't have the specific Katie, but I understand.

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Speaker 1: There is twenties one hundred.

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Speaker 4: There is a significant number of police, and that's something

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Speaker 4: that through wellbeing work that's being undertaken. And I absolutely,

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Speaker 4: with respect they are unwell with valid reasons, but we

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Speaker 4: just need to work through those factors.

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Speaker 1: There must be a lot though for it to be

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Speaker 4: So I don't have the figure in front of me.

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Speaker 4: I apologize, but there is certainly a significant amount of

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Speaker 1: I must have an idea though if it's sort of

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Speaker 4: It's in a couple of hundred KTI, so it's and

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Speaker 4: so it's looking at all these factors, and I guess

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Speaker 4: so from government's perspective, we provide budgets to chief executives

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Speaker 4: involved as line ministers and Minister Warden's been doing an

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Speaker 4: enormous amount of work ensuring that police have the operational

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Speaker 2: If we have literally if we're in a situation in

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Speaker 1: Does that say to you?

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, this is something that wellbeing aspect that we

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Speaker 3: Supports are there.

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Speaker 4: To me that actually all of these people, Katie, are

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Speaker 4: that we and what I'm saying is we provide the budget,

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Speaker 4: understand the frontline situation and that's the work that Minister

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Speaker 2: I mean, at the moment, if we we've got more

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory government.

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Speaker 2: That must be of concern to you given the very

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and so Minister Warden is meeting with the Police

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Speaker 2: If we're literally in a situation right now though where

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Speaker 2: eighty percent saying that they're rating.

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Speaker 1: Morale as low or very low.

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Speaker 2: To me, it seems like things are seriously broken right

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Speaker 4: I think that, first of all, I would like to

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Speaker 3: We do have a highly functioning police force.

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Speaker 4: But I think there is absolutely from those survey results

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Speaker 3: People, there's absolutely more work we have.

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Speaker 4: To do around supporting our frontline workers to make sure

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Speaker 2: Now. The Opposition leader Leafanocchiro, she came out swinging about

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, does the Police Minister still have your full support?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: She is working so diligently in this space, and not

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Speaker 4: And I just pointed to getting right out across the

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Speaker 2: Everybody sort of said, like you know, everyone was saying

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Speaker 2: Now as a result, like after that last survey, things

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, some of this work will take time to change.

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Speaker 4: But as I've said, the Minister will be fully briefed

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Speaker 2: Do you still fully support the Police Commissioner. Yes, so

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Speaker 2: no changes in terms of the leadership. You feel as

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Speaker 2: though the leadership within the Police Executive and also in

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Speaker 2: But you've got the Police Association saying that you know

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Speaker 2: that these results should be of serious concern to the

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I am acknowledging there is more work to

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Speaker 2: I know that, you know people are going to be listening.

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Speaker 2: They will have heard us speaking about the issues with crime.

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Speaker 2: Then they'll now hear us speaking about these survey results,

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Speaker 4: I do, Katie, and we'll continue to work in this space,

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Speaker 4: will continue to make sure that we provide resources, that

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Speaker 2: Do you think that there needs to be some kind

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Speaker 4: I think we know what we need to do. We

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Speaker 3: They just want us getting on with it.

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know whether there does need to be

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Speaker 4: So Katie, I'm not saying that there won't be changed

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Speaker 4: Absolutely that can change. But what I'm saying is we

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Speaker 4: don't need to have another talk fest. We don't need

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Speaker 4: we have and we act upon that and that's what

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Speaker 1: How did you act upon the last survey results?

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Speaker 4: So, Katie, there has been work undertaken, particularly around well being.

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Speaker 4: The Executive, which is the Police Commission and his team

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Speaker 2: So you don't think there needs to be any kind

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Speaker 1: The police force.

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Speaker 2: Yes, hasn't offer been put on the table for police

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Speaker 2: in terms of their pay negotiations, so we're.

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Speaker 4: Working closely with them around the EBA. I met with

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Speaker 4: the Police Association President Paul mceuwe. I think it was

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Speaker 4: just before Christmas. We're both keen to see this resolved

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Speaker 4: to give our offices not just a pay increase, but

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Speaker 4: also the other aspects.

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Speaker 3: That come with a new BBA.

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Speaker 4: And many people get fixated on the financial but an

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Speaker 4: EBA is an opportunity to renegotiate different parameters and working environments,

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Speaker 4: and we're both keen to see that happen.

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Speaker 1: Are you far away from that happening, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I would have to seek advice from ACP, but there's

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Speaker 4: been ongoing conversations around the Police Association EBA. We saw

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Speaker 4: the teachers signed off just before Christmas, so we'll continue

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Speaker 4: to work in that space.

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Speaker 2: We are out of time, but I do just want

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Speaker 2: to ask you, is there a bit of an update

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Speaker 2: on what's going on in Alice Springs in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of the NGOs.

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Speaker 2: There was work happening looking at some of the work

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Speaker 2: that they are doing and whether the funding that's been

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Speaker 2: provided to them at the moment is sort of beneficial.

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Speaker 1: I guess if they're meeting their KPIs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, so I think you're referring to the program

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Speaker 4: and the service mapping, so looking at what's in place,

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Speaker 4: what can be expanded, what perhaps is missing, what needs

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Speaker 4: to be changed. But Darrell Anderson, she had senior officials

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Speaker 4: from the Northern Territory government supporting her last week in

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Speaker 4: Aarl Springs. I was briefed, I understand that Australian government

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Speaker 4: officials are heading there to be you know, this is

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Speaker 4: Australian and Northern Territory government working together.

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Speaker 3: But yes, that works continuing and.

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Speaker 2: So how soon are we expecting that some of that

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Speaker 2: money is sort of going to be allocated to different areas?

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Speaker 4: So Katie, there is already money and programs in place,

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Speaker 4: and we can change those. And then my understanding is

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Speaker 4: the turn in and fifty million dollars will start to

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Speaker 4: flow from the first of July. But there's already money

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Speaker 4: from both the Territory and Comnwealth government there. If we

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Speaker 4: need to change that, we can do so.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to have to leave it there.

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Speaker 2: Chief Ministerrez always, thanks very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thank you