1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Twenty three year old Tash Bryant has had a remarkable 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: sailing career to date. She won the Under nineteen Youth 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: World Championships at just fifteen years old and qualified her 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: country for the Olympics at seventeen. In twenty twenty two, 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: she became the youngest member of the Australian sale GP 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: team and then in twenty twenty three, the youngest ever 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: winner of the sale GP Championship after winning the season 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: finale with the Australian team in San Francisco in May 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. She has continued her role as strategist 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: on board the Australian team for season four, with a 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: highlight of winning the home event in Sydney in February 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: this year. Tash, welcome to the Female Athlete Project. 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: We chatted off air about the fact that Bez and 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I chatted about this before we recorded the rap earlier today, 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: about the fact that sailing is not a strong point 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: for us. So I'm very excited for well for me 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: for my learning, but also for a lot of our 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: listeners to kind of get their head around sailing and 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: to learn a little bit more about it. Before we 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: get into the educational side of it, can you give 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: us a bit of a rundown about how you first 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: found a love for sailing. 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I was lucky enough to live very close 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: to a recording and I grew up on Pittwater, which 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: is about five minutes away, and I learned how to 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: sail with my family and some friends on a big 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: yacht and there was just a really big community experience, 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: and yeah, I was introduced just through enjoyment of that. 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: And yeah, over the years, I learned to love it. 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: And I was quite a competitive person growing up, and 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: so I realized that we could race these things. And 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: I had a younger brother who really pushed me along, 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and we sailed these little boats called Optimists single handed, 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: and we used to race each other after school a lot. 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: And so that's where the competitiveness kind of came. And 37 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: obviously from there I just progressed through the classes and yeah, 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm still doing it twelve years later. 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: It's very cool. Like, looking at it overall, how hard 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: is it as a sport to learn? Because there's a 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: lot of, I guess features that are out of your 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: control in terms of the water and the wind and 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: all these different elements. 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's actually where I kind of fell in 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: love with it. I was going between quite a few 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: different sports when I was younger of like what I 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: wanted to do more full time and really like throw 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: myself in. And with sailing, there's so many elements you 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: need to think about whilst you're racing. So it's like 50 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: your heart rates up a little bit. Some boat's more 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: physical than others, but yeah, your heart rate's up you're 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: out on the water. But you also need to think 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: about what you want to do and play almost like 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: a game of chess in your head around a race 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: course and learn how the weather works, how the wind works, 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: and there's so many different aspects to learn. And that 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: always just felt like every day I could learn something 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: new when I was growing up. And I love that 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: and I still feel the same way. And yeah, so 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: many things, and that's probably one of the biggest reasons 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: why I love the sport. 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: That's really cool talk to us about the America's Cut 63 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: because for the first time there's going to be a 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: women's side of the competition. But can you give us 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: a bit of a history for people who might not 66 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: know about the America's cut. Yeah. 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: So what I love to think about with the America's 68 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: Cup is that they really lead the way in the 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: research and design of sailing as a class or as 70 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: just a whole sport, and the way we progress through 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: with speeds or. 72 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: The technology in what we use. 73 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: Right now, I'm racing a boat that flies above the 74 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: water and you press buttons and don't hold any ropes, 75 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: which is crazy. The thing about considering what hundreds of 76 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: years ago we used to do, and the America's Cup 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: is like a race to design the best thing that 78 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: you can think of. And yeah, the Kiwis have been 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: pretty dominant the last few cycles and it only comes 80 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: around every three or four years. The way it works 81 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: is whoever wins the Cup gets to pretty much set 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: the rules and what type of boat they want you 83 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: to design, where the event is going to be held. 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: And lucky enough that the Kiwis have brought in a 85 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: women's event for this next round. 86 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: That's amazing. And so how does that work? 87 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Like? 88 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Is it you just like as long as you fit 89 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the dimensions in certain specifications, you can kind of do 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: whatever you want if you put the right research in. 91 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's rule books, so there hundreds of pages 92 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: well that classify more detail, but there's certain in certain 93 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: parts of the boat. There's foils, there's like length of 94 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: the boat specifications, and you have like a heap of 95 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: people designing for years to try and figure out what 96 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: the next best thing is. 97 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: And it's really interesting. 98 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: You're only allowed to put out a few different practice 99 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: designs to run and so yeah, they've been testing for 100 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: the last couple of years in different places and it's 101 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: really cool to watch what they've come out with. And 102 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: sometimes there's like a big hidden show and it's very quiet, 103 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: like you're not allowed to talk to anyone. It's very 104 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: secretive and in your own yeah, and your own little departments. 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: And as soon as you get to the cup and 106 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: everything's released. There's not much you can do during the 107 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: cup because it's every every day you're racing and it's 108 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: a bit of a grind. So each night that all 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: the sailors will come home and the boat builders will 110 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: continue to work all through the night to try help 111 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: improve day and day out, try to get better the 112 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: next day if they find issues. So it's wow, Yeah, 113 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: just constantly constantly trying to figure out what's next and 114 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: what's the next best thing. 115 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Really, Wow, it's quite amazing. 116 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly, like, I love sailing, but also the 117 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: like research and design behind it is so interesting just 118 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: to see what's coming up next and how to make 119 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: the boat more efficient and yeah, there's so many different 120 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: things to think about. 121 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: Can you talk to us about the physical demands when 122 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: you're actually on the boat. 123 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's a few different things what we're sailing currently. 124 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: We actually have two drivers and two people that we 125 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 3: call trimmers that control the sails for us. On a 126 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: traditional boat, you would usually pull ropes or we do 127 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: the single grinding where it's almost like you're riding a 128 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: bike with your spin spin them around and that's there 129 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: quite physical roles, very hard and yeah, so you have 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: to obviously be really strong, quite big to do them. 131 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: But with the AC forty, which is the boat that 132 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: is going to be in the next cup for the women, 133 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: there's no physical roles, okay, Yeah, so it's all battery powered, 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: which is pretty cool for us because sometimes our limiting 135 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: factor recently over the last years has been the size. 136 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: These guys have been going up against the ninety kilo 137 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: cyclist or grinders, and so they're very strong can put 138 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: out way more whats than we can. But like we 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: still try now with this new technology that's completely like 140 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: it's a full yeah page for us to just start 141 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: over and we've got driving and trimming and that's about it. 142 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, So is this do you think moving forward 143 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: a way that there can be more equality in the 144 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: sport to allow women to still be involved with the 145 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: same capacity as men. 146 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's much more opportunity for us now. I'm 147 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: pretty lucky in a few of the things I sail 148 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: with sale GPS, especially the way they've opened it up 149 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: to just allow us to even get on board the 150 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: boats at the start. We haven't had the opportunity in 151 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: the past, So now we're really trying to push for 152 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: as much as we can leaning forward. 153 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: And I always thought when I saw sale GP that 154 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: they potentially led the way in terms of that innovation 155 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and technology, But it's actually America's Cup that lead the 156 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: way that kind of dictate what's used in sail GP. 157 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Is that right? 158 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: So the sail GP boats we're using actually came from 159 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: the America's Cup. So the old boats that were raised yeah, right, 160 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: I think it must have been ten twelve years ago. 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Now oh wow. 162 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were quite like at the early days 163 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: of their design way back then. Now we're still using 164 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: those boats, but they've been tweaked, so we have a 165 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: lot more technology on board them now that they didn't 166 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: have then. We also sail with more people than they 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 3: had then. That has allowed us to get on board, 168 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: women to get on board the boat got yeah, yeah, 169 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: and so it has developed. But the boats, like the 170 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: hulls and everything we're using it are the same. But yeah, 171 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: the America's Cup is just constantly changing and growing and yeah, 172 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: really just kind of. 173 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Guides the way talk to us about the foiling element. 174 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: So like for people who don't get the boat, well, 175 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: previously it was like in the water. Now it's up. 176 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: Yes, So we have these. 177 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: They kind of look really crazy when you look at 178 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: them on the water, so we almost fly above the water. 179 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: But the way a foil works is quite similar to 180 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: the way an aeroplane wing would work. So it's the 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: exact same, exact same thing. So you have to get 182 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: to a certain speed create enough lift to get like. 183 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: The plane off the ground. We need to get the 184 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: boat out of the water. 185 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: Our wings aren't as big as aeroplane wings though, because 186 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: the water is a lot more dense than air, so 187 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: we don't actually have to have as bigger wings of 188 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: the plane, which. 189 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Is great for us. 190 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, so we have to reach a certain speed 191 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: to get the boat out of the water, and then 192 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: the faster we go, the higher it wants to fly 193 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: out of the water. So we have to have some 194 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: sort of controller on our sl GP boats. Someone actually 195 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: flies the boat and keeps it back into the water. 196 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 2: So that's a whole job. Anytime we're going out in 197 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: the water. He sits down. His name is Jason. 198 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: Locally from here, and he flies the boat and so 199 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: that's his sole job, whether it's on the AC forty. 200 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: We have autopilot software that will detect how high we 201 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: are out of the water and at real time updates 202 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: and flies the boat for us. 203 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: WHOA, this is quite amazing. 204 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really crazy when you think about it, all 205 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: the technology that goes into it. 206 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: So could you go too fast? Is that what would 207 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: get you out of the water. 208 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it the faster you go, the more it 209 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: wants to fly, and so you can actually change the 210 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: rate of the foil. 211 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: So it's kind of going into a lot of technology 212 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: but I'm picking for it. 213 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,119 Speaker 3: You can move the foil under the water with controls 214 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: that will either push you further out or bring you in. 215 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 216 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so there's either someone controlling that all the 217 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: time or it's on autopilot, which. 218 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: Is pretty crazy. 219 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: And what speeds are we talking? 220 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, we've been up to over fifty knots, which is 221 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: about one hundred kilometers an hour with sal GP, and 222 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: they're doing speeds close to that on the AC forties 223 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: as well, so racing pretty fast on average, around sixty 224 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: seventy k's. 225 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, amazing. Yeah, talk to us about sale GP. 226 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: There was a pretty cool video that came out that 227 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: we collaborated on. So back in twenty nineteen, I think 228 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: it was you're involved in like a commentary role. You're 229 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: trying to well, I think had you qualified for the 230 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Olympics at that point. 231 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we qualified the country for the games, and so 232 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: I was sailing a different class. Yeah, yeah, but I 233 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: was trying to be involved in sale GP in any 234 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: capacity I could. 235 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you handed out the medals or the trophy 236 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: was it? 237 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the medals to the Aussie team at 238 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: the home event in Sydney, which was actually the first 239 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: ever event for SALEGP. Yeah, and then this year we 240 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: had the Sydney event about a month ago now, and 241 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: we won and I was actually. 242 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: Racing on board, which was a pretty cool progression. 243 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: It was awesome to see the contrast of the two 244 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: about four years apart of you handing other medals to 245 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: actually receiving a medal as part of the team. It 246 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: was pretty special. How did that feel? 247 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I remember watching them and watching the sailors 248 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: on board them. They're amazing sailors, all of them from 249 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: all the teams, like the best sailors in the world 250 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: jumping in one league, which is. 251 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Really cool to watch. And I remember watching. 252 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: Oh I would give anything to sail in one of 253 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: those boats one day, just to even have a go. 254 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, and yeah, lucky enough. 255 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: SALESGP brought in a women's pathway program about two years 256 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: ago or maybe a bit over now three years and 257 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: that allowed us to become more involved. Initially, it just 258 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: started with training days, so we were allowed to go 259 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: on training days. We weren't racing at the start, and 260 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: then it came into racing and now it's like compulsory 261 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: any day we go out on the water, we're on 262 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: board no matter the conditions. 263 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: And so we've had quite a lot more opportunity. 264 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: To jump on board with these amazing sailors and on 265 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: these really cool boats. 266 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been just a dream. 267 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: Really, that's amazing. It's cool. You can like see your 268 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: face light up, like you can tell how much you 269 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: love doing it. It's pretty special. 270 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, every day get on board those boats. 271 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: It's just Yeah, I remember watching five years ago have 272 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: long boars and just remember the feeling of wanting to 273 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: do it so bad. And the first day got the 274 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: call up to actually jump on board for not even 275 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: a race, just for five minutes to train. 276 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just amazing. 277 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: And what do you think the importance is of having 278 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: parameters in place to actually allow women to the opport 279 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: and young girls, hopefully the pathways to get to the 280 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: point of where you're at now. Yeah. 281 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's a little tricky at the start because 282 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: these guys have been sailing those boats for years and 283 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: years just five up, and so it was tricky to 284 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: just introduce a role no matter woman or male whoever 285 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: jumped into that role. 286 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: It was going to be hard because. 287 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: They'd already figured out how to do everything without them, 288 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: and so jumping on board was definitely interesting and it 289 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: was really a matter of trying to figure out. 290 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: What are we missing here, how can we make gains 291 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: and how. 292 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: Can you unload people or load yourself up in areas 293 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: you were confident in and so yeah, it was a 294 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: bit not controversial at the start, but it was just 295 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: definitely it wasn't an easy transition. 296 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: But now talking to everyone, it's been. 297 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: A couple of years, but the way we've gone about it, 298 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: we're progressing. The boats, they're sailing faster than they've been. 299 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: We're racing with more people on the race course than 300 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: ever we're racing, and that can almost touch boats next 301 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: to us, which is pretty crazy. And I think it's 302 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: quite a crucial role. Now it's become, yeah, just one 303 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: the roles and no one really questions it anymore, which 304 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: is what you really want. But yeah, like, honestly, to 305 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: just making the opportunity in the first place was really 306 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: where it all started. 307 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Talk to us about the America's Cup that's coming up. 308 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: When is it? Where is it? 309 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so we're racing. 310 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: It's odd the kiwis won last time, but they've chosen 311 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: to race in Barcelona beautiful. So the end of this 312 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: year we'll all be off to Barcelona. A lot of 313 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: the teams are already there the actual the racing in 314 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: the Big Proper Cup. They've been there for a couple 315 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: of years now, some of them. Yeah, they start all 316 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: their research and design immediately or sometimes even previously before 317 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: the previous Cup. They're already looking towards the next thing. 318 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: And so they've been set up in Barcelona for a 319 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: long time training and then the women's event is going 320 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: to be just before the Big Cup and our final event, oh, 321 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 3: our final race is going to be during their racing. 322 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: And so the America's Cup goes over a long period 323 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: of time. It's almost over a month with races each day. 324 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: The Youth America's Cup is going to be at the 325 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: start of October, followed by the women's and then the 326 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: America's Cup racing is going to be after that. 327 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. 328 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm really excited it's going to be like a massive 329 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: event and can't wait to be a part of it. 330 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, I'm excited to watch and I think it's 331 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: really cool for our listeners to be able to actually 332 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: understand it, because I think that's A big part of 333 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: what we want to do at the Female Athlete Project 334 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: is introduce people to the athletes themselves like you, who 335 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: are just killing it, but also give them kind of 336 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the tools to understand more about it so when they 337 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: see it, they can actually engage with it and have 338 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: more of an understanding. Yeah, is there anything else that's 339 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: on your bucket list? I feel like the America's Cup 340 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: is probably a big one for you to tick off 341 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: in October, But is there anything else on your bucket 342 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: list ahead of that? 343 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: Not necessarily ahead of that, but I'm slowly chipping away 344 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: with it. With sail GP, all the other boats I've 345 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: learnt sail in or sailed in the past, I've driven 346 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 3: m H and. 347 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: I really really would like to drive Okay a. 348 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: Sail GP boat Okay race on our fifty year as 349 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: a driver. It would be real dream come true. When 350 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm working towards it, and the guys I'm racing at 351 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: the moment are awesome. They give me every opportunity in 352 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: training to learn how to drive sometimes a little bit 353 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: in the racing, and so we're slowly progressing, but we 354 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: don't have much training time, so it's very tricky to 355 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: us progress when you don't have much time on the water, right, Okay, yeah, 356 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: so it's a work in progress, but we'll keep chipping away. 357 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: A few years ago I didn't think i'd be racing 358 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: on board the boat, so well, i'll see where it goes. 359 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. How does the format work for the 360 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: women's format of the America's Cup? 361 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: So there are twelve teams competing against each other, all 362 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: twelve countries. They're split into two different flights and you 363 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: do a round robin series, so six teams race against 364 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: each other for a fleet race, and then the top 365 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: three from each of those flights will go through to 366 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: the next round and you do another fleet race series. 367 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: With the top six. 368 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: Then the top two from that will go through into 369 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: a match racing final where it's a one v one 370 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: and we do a few races and it's usually best 371 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: of three or best of five, but can't remember exactly 372 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: at that moment. 373 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the mattch racing finish is pretty crazy. 374 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: So we're hoping to see you there in that one 375 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: v one. 376 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: Oh that would be great. 377 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, amazing. If you don't have a lot 378 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: of time on the water to train, is there other 379 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: ways that you can learn how to do it. 380 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the technology that we have for the 381 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: America's Cup and the salgypeen Out, we have a simulator 382 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: that's actually located in Sydney for us, for the Australian team, 383 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: and we train on board that. So we sit in 384 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: the room with a massive screen in front of us, 385 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: and we actually have cockpits, so the whole that we 386 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: would racing, and we have everything that would be in 387 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: the actual boat, with all the buttons in the same place, 388 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: all the trimming toggles in the same place, the wheels, 389 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: and we sit in there and we train and we 390 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: can actually race people internationally on it. 391 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: It's almost like a PlayStation. It's pretty funny, yeah. 392 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Right, but real people are doing it at the same time. 393 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: Yes, So we organized to race against teams that we 394 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: obviously know from other sailing and yeah, we will organize 395 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: like tonight, I'm going down to the training and I'll 396 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: be racing against the teams. That's amazing, And they'll be 397 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 3: training in either some of them are in Barcelona and 398 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: some of them are actually in Sweden, and yeah, we'll 399 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: be racing each other in real time virtually. 400 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: On a fake water body of water. 401 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's actually the graphics are pretty good. 402 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: The perspective you have is from when you're sitting inside 403 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: the boat what you would see if you're actually sailing 404 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: on the boat. 405 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, Yeah. 406 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: The only difference is you can't obviously like look around 407 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: and spin around, but you can use keys to pan 408 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 3: have a look at different views to make sure you're 409 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: not crashing into anyone. 410 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: Good. It's handy. 411 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be a bit chaotic sometimes, yeah, but yeah, 412 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: we've raced with up to seven boats so far on 413 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: one game, which is okay, it's very very different anything 414 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: I've experienced before. 415 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: But the technology is seriously impressive. 416 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy as if you were like we talked 417 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: to pilots and stuff, and they obviously practice in the 418 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: simulator before they go flying and different things. But yeah, 419 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: it's cool to have a sport that's really pushing in 420 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: that amazing. 421 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time today. I've loved 422 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: getting to know more about it, and as I said, 423 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to keep watching you and your team 424 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: as you progress. 425 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 426 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 427 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 428 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: could send it on to one person who you think 429 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: might enjoy it. 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