Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch Up podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the potty Little Brookie, our producers here
Speaker 2: in the studio. She's wearing a white top.
Speaker 1: It always was if you're about to attack, when you
Speaker 1: do the clothing looking at in your eyes. When you
Speaker 1: start rattling off what we're wearing, I'm like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want any problem.
Speaker 2: Radio craft Flex. It's a radio show. You need to
Speaker 2: paint a picture, isn't that right, Brookie? That's it. Brookie
Speaker 2: is wearing I've been staring at it all day, a
Speaker 2: little headband. She looks like a princess. She's a princess.
Speaker 2: And it looks like crusty microplastics in a good way,
Speaker 2: in a good way, in a good way.
Speaker 1: Like it looks it looks like.
Speaker 2: Seeds that a bird would peck, but they're rainbow so crazy?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you about will you remind me of
Speaker 1: right now? Did you watch that show you People on Netflix? No?
Speaker 1: So it's about this show about interracial relationships. Right, you
Speaker 1: got this black girl, this white guy. Look looking at
Speaker 1: my own life right now? Right, and there's always that
Speaker 1: like white mom who thinks she's being flattering as she
Speaker 1: like tears you a new one. How are you gonna
Speaker 1: tell brook her head but looks like microplastics. You're actually insane.
Speaker 1: And then you've gotta keep pointing at her as you
Speaker 1: survey her with those beaty little eyes. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like gosh, you guys, what I meant creative things.
Speaker 1: We would have never done it in my days. We
Speaker 1: preferred more classic, more items than we did. But gosh,
Speaker 1: it just is so creative the way you young girls.
Speaker 1: That's what you're giving and you're literally three years away
Speaker 1: from that being your full identity. I promise you. It's
Speaker 1: the tread wife.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I am now FLEXI I mean Brookie, stop.
Speaker 1: It, leave her alone, Leave her alone. Yeah, stop looking
Speaker 1: at her. I'm about to go to war for brook
Speaker 1: You stop looking at her. It's like what I feel,
Speaker 1: I need to do poopy and the eyes go white.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Flex put on my story a few weeks ago, me
Speaker 2: saying need to go poopy as a joke, and then
Speaker 2: my friends message me straight away being like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: on Flexy's story, your eyes widened. It means you're being
Speaker 2: serious And what did I go do poopy. So I reminded.
Speaker 2: You know, Flex makes for contents. My best friends are
Speaker 2: out here watching within an hour.
Speaker 1: I'm quite good at what I do. People forget it's
Speaker 1: not simple.
Speaker 2: And you won't hesitate to remind them.
Speaker 1: I don't remind people enough if I really started to
Speaker 1: bring out the CV. You people are forgetting.
Speaker 2: Flex and rooms on Kata.
Speaker 1: Your residents, she eos, girl bosses, lady entrepreneurs, oh dear,
Speaker 1: oh dear, and we don't mind the titles. I actually
Speaker 1: quite encourage them, call us beta s babe. It is
Speaker 1: what it is. What I will say, though, is that
Speaker 1: we have a listener message in. It's about hustle culture broadly.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to it.
Speaker 4: Hey, Flex, Hey, I have a little question for you.
Speaker 4: I've been a big time fan of the show, but
Speaker 4: at the moment I've been seeing a lot of things
Speaker 4: about hustle culture. Now, what I mean by this is
Speaker 4: people doing side hustles on top of their actual jobs.
Speaker 4: I with so many friends that do it. There's like
Speaker 4: only fans to Instagram's TikTok. They're all doing these hot
Speaker 4: side hustles and I want to get into it, but
Speaker 4: I just don't know is it all hype? What do
Speaker 4: you reckon side hustles? Yay or nay?
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I think we need to make a distinction
Speaker 1: between hustle culture and a side hustle because the two
Speaker 1: there's a correlation between the both of them, but they're
Speaker 1: not the same ven diagrams ven diagram as most things
Speaker 1: are when you really think about it. So we can
Speaker 1: assume hustle culture is this nine to five rise and
Speaker 1: grind capitalistic. You must early bird get to the worm,
Speaker 1: This overworking yourself to accumulate a success of some kind,
Speaker 1: and the idea that you know, the harder you work,
Speaker 1: the bigger the reward, or that in order to achieve
Speaker 1: the success you want, you need to work so much
Speaker 1: harder than what is expected, versus a side hustle, which
Speaker 1: is just an additional job on the side that might
Speaker 1: not be a career path, but another source of income
Speaker 1: at the very least. Correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I see the confusion in this ven diagram
Speaker 2: situation because I can't help but feel that side hustles
Speaker 2: are really a way to do what you actually want
Speaker 2: to do. So in order for you to do that properly,
Speaker 2: you have to bust your bussy to do it right.
Speaker 2: So I think it does inevitably come under the umbrella
Speaker 2: of hustle culture. I don't think you can do a
Speaker 2: side hustle properly without falling into that trap.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. That makes sense as well,
Speaker 1: because you could do it. The presumption is that you
Speaker 1: know you need your primary source of income so you
Speaker 1: can live and like really fulfill your Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Speaker 1: Can I get a hoorrah? But also, if you want
Speaker 1: to do something in addition to well, you've tapped out,
Speaker 1: you've reached your quota, so anything above that is that
Speaker 1: you're above and beyond. I will say, though, as someone
Speaker 1: who's been side hustling, hustle culturing for the bulk of
Speaker 1: my career, I feel like the amount of effort it
Speaker 1: takes to do something the presumably easy way out, you
Speaker 1: might as well have done it properly. So you have
Speaker 1: people who are like I want to do a side hustle.
Speaker 1: Let's say I want to do only fans, for example.
Speaker 1: Right now, we've talked about only fans quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and the one thing that I feel that hasn't really
Speaker 1: come through is that only fans is a hard job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very difficult job, far harder than if you
Speaker 1: just want when I got a hospital job or a
Speaker 1: retail job. Absolutely, because not only are you let's say
Speaker 1: you're building your own schedule, but you are finding your
Speaker 1: own customer, then turning your customer into a loyal subscriber,
Speaker 1: then creating enough content to not only meet that subscriber's needs,
Speaker 1: but every other subscriber so they will continue to pay
Speaker 1: for this subscription. Now, let's say you've managed to get
Speaker 1: you know, let's say even one hundred subscribers. They need
Speaker 1: to make a rate that's competitive, because you have it's
Speaker 1: a saturated marketplace. When people can get access to pawn, video, image,
Speaker 1: whatever for free, now you're gonna charge for it. You
Speaker 1: need to make this service so appealing that the subscribers
Speaker 1: you were able to get you can sustain. Now I
Speaker 1: can imagine a lot of us. If you want to
Speaker 1: start only fans, we could get one hundred people to
Speaker 1: subscribe once. Yeah, ten dollars, one hundred fans, one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars before tax. Only fans got to take their cart.
Speaker 1: Ats can take their cart and know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not a suddenly you've made three hundred dollars for one month.
Speaker 1: You got to make a bunch of new content to
Speaker 1: get those same people to stay. It's not simple, and
Speaker 1: it's okay. Let's say you're able to sustain making three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month for three months. How many hours
Speaker 1: of work did you put into creating a profile, creating
Speaker 1: editing your content, sharing your content, joining discords, joining Twitch servers,
Speaker 1: joining reddits like all these things when realistically you can
Speaker 1: make thirty bucks an hour at a bar job and
Speaker 1: like call it a day.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're saying harder work perhaps is the
Speaker 2: term I would think is contentious. Yeah, it's a different
Speaker 2: type of work.
Speaker 1: I think it's more either way. Yeah, I back myself
Speaker 1: when I say harder work. I think people don't know
Speaker 1: what it goes. I think, broadly speaking, people have no
Speaker 1: idea how hard it is to make good content. Content
Speaker 1: people want to pay for You don't you want to
Speaker 1: pay for your Netflix? And that's the top of the
Speaker 1: top of the quality. You know, people like I don't
Speaker 1: ever want to pay the eighteen and all. You don't
Speaker 1: want to pay for your Spotify access to the best
Speaker 1: music in the world. You want to pay your ten
Speaker 1: dollars a month, but you think, you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: a popular or tit pick and charge twenty bucks a
Speaker 1: month and you gotta kick the subscribers rolling in. I
Speaker 1: don't think that you have it. I really don't. I
Speaker 1: think people don't. They underestimate how hard it is to
Speaker 1: build a community, to communicate value, to keep people coming
Speaker 1: back to sell sex. It's all difficult stuff. And I
Speaker 1: don't think people realize how a lot of these other
Speaker 1: industries that are established and conventional, let's say, like I said, hospital, retail,
Speaker 1: officehob temp whatever, you don't have to go in and
Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel to get your money's worth. You sign
Speaker 1: that contract, you're entitled to your hourly rate regardless it's
Speaker 1: coming in, so like you don't even have to use
Speaker 1: your extra brain cells for that, and like that would
Speaker 1: be a lucrative side hustle off the jump. There's something
Speaker 1: about these unconventional side hustles, these like I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: surveys or I'm gonna, like you know, sell like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna learn how to make candles and sell them, like
Speaker 1: that feel like an easier option because they have the
Speaker 1: illusion of being less complex. Yeah, I'm gonna be my
Speaker 1: own boss, and so okay, cool. But now you've got
Speaker 1: to pay, like, you know, your taxes to the government
Speaker 1: on your own. You gotta do your own book keeping,
Speaker 1: you gotta write your own contracts. And suddenly you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: is it is this really? Is this a side hustle
Speaker 1: or is this a full time job that I'm doing pooring.
Speaker 1: I think everyone should do a side hustle if you
Speaker 1: want to make extra income, Like don't like, don't seclude
Speaker 1: yourself from the possibility of getting your bag because it
Speaker 1: could be difficult. But I would say, like, be weary
Speaker 1: of the people who are selling your pipe dream about
Speaker 1: it being not a lot of effort, not a lot
Speaker 1: of work.
Speaker 2: And I will say I'd look into just going on
Speaker 2: only fans and paying for some content.
Speaker 1: Why not, that's what you got from this whole thing.
Speaker 1: I would look into actually consuming some of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and no, but honestly thinking about it, like, oh,
Speaker 2: it could be like you know, why not because it's
Speaker 2: quite interesting. Like like Anna Paul, for example, I like
Speaker 2: following her, so I'm like, I like, this is other
Speaker 2: facet of her that would be interesting. You not pay
Speaker 2: for her only fans.
Speaker 1: You can see her Twitter where she promotes her content
Speaker 1: to get like an example of what she makes, right,
Speaker 1: because you can.
Speaker 2: Do nuty on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Hey yeah, and Sis is making porn. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I feel like people like they're
Speaker 1: deluding themselves. I will say, similar to what you said before,
Speaker 1: hustle culture. I don't think as a scam. I do
Speaker 1: think there's merit, like there are very clear ways to
Speaker 1: populus see and make an extra check. But I think
Speaker 1: the people online, especially who are trying to tell you
Speaker 1: that it's easy, have a vested interest in you thinking
Speaker 1: that it's easy.
Speaker 2: Oh I mean that's ridiculous, isn't it.
Speaker 1: That's just yeah, yeah, literally, like it's the MLM of
Speaker 1: like a. And if we're using only fans as an example, no,
Speaker 1: let's not. We've talked about it before. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying house culture is real, like it is. That's how
Speaker 1: it works. You work more, you make more money. But
Speaker 1: I think of all the jobs to do, digital content
Speaker 1: creating is not the easiest one.
Speaker 2: Definitely not Yeah, definitely not.
Speaker 1: Cater flex and frooms, Flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: We are both not yet engaged. Would you get engaged
Speaker 2: coming to this red hot have we?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going on? Let's continue?
Speaker 2: Are you Polly you engaged? Would you do this? I
Speaker 2: love to say see people get married. I'd love to
Speaker 2: see the outfits, and I love to see the after video.
Speaker 2: Would I personally get an after video? Would I have
Speaker 2: a videographer running around taking videos of my wedding? I
Speaker 2: don't think I would. And I know this is a
Speaker 2: very contentious topic. I saw a TikTok the other day
Speaker 2: of a guy who's a videographer, and he said that
Speaker 2: he was doing regular wedding videos and then he did
Speaker 2: one that was like a documentary, so we get all
Speaker 2: the footage, but beforehand he'd have like entry interviews like
Speaker 2: you would on The Bachelor, with like the mum and
Speaker 2: the dad, Da da da. And he said since doing that,
Speaker 2: his jobs went up ten times of course. So do
Speaker 2: you think this is a good idea, having absolutely entry
Speaker 2: interviews with people who love the bride and the groom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so sorry. I just hate the idea that
Speaker 1: anything about a wedding or proposal should be accidental or
Speaker 1: like without a bit of cringe. If you're going to
Speaker 1: be spending upwards of fifty thousand, sixty one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: You think I'm not going to document it. You think
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be like, oh no, I don't want
Speaker 1: an after video because no, no, I'm literally paying for
Speaker 1: people's attention for hours. You think I don't want to
Speaker 1: do document it? What do you think is happening here?
Speaker 1: If you propose to me you haven't got a secret
Speaker 1: little camera and a mic setup, You're wasting everybody's time.
Speaker 1: Our memories are so fallible. I don't remember yesterday, you
Speaker 1: think in the flurry of this surprise, I mean we
Speaker 1: were like and then he said, and then she said.
Speaker 1: When the girl is like, so what happened, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. Now I'm letting down the girlies. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need all of it documented. And the vog style is
Speaker 1: really amazing because there's something about like a lot of
Speaker 1: what I don't like about weddings is how sanitized they become.
Speaker 1: That every wedding was like a carbon copy of the
Speaker 1: last wedding, And it's like, can we add some flavor?
Speaker 1: Can we have the in between moments that make it
Speaker 1: feel like a real event. That's why when I saw
Speaker 1: that TikTok of the girl who does social media content
Speaker 1: for weddings, So the girl who like walks around just
Speaker 1: with an iPhone and documents it from the perspective of
Speaker 1: just like a random guess, I'm like, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, because I will never see that. Remember when
Speaker 1: I went to my brother's wedding and they spent like
Speaker 1: a stack on this really intricate dessert table that they
Speaker 1: were never that they didn't see in the flesh because
Speaker 1: they were just busy doing other stuff. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you didn't see it, and they're like, no, they saw
Speaker 1: it at the end when it had just been more
Speaker 1: through by a bunch of animals. So document it all, please.
Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. I personally don't want anything to
Speaker 2: be documented. Keep the engagement separate, keep it private, keep
Speaker 2: it private, a small intimate ceremony, just my friends and family.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's something about a video for following us around when
Speaker 2: the men are putting the ties on.
Speaker 3: I know that, like the little video of the woman's
Speaker 3: shoes on a pillow. Don't put up a ring camera then,
Speaker 3: you know, do a little ring camera. Do a little
Speaker 3: hidden video, hidden mic situation. You don't know where the
Speaker 3: cameras are. Let's get they'll find you.
Speaker 1: We need or a little lapel camera, you know, like
Speaker 1: a little little square camera.
Speaker 2: Everyone's got the ray bands on to take videos exactly.
Speaker 1: It's a lot flex and frooms of the suspicion that
Speaker 1: there's a ghost in the room with us. But two
Speaker 1: more important things, a moral dilemma. Picture this. You're at
Speaker 1: a birthday party with you know, a group of friends,
Speaker 1: some friends you know quite dearly, some are friends of friends. Whatever.
Speaker 1: You meet someone new, a mutual friend, and catch a
Speaker 1: bad vibe, nothing too crazy. You're just like, ah, it's
Speaker 1: not my person. Don't really feel good about it. You
Speaker 1: have a little bit to your friends, you let them know, like, ah,
Speaker 1: I don't like their vibe, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a big scene about just not
Speaker 1: my person. Now. A couple months later, a couple months
Speaker 1: go by, more mutual friend situations happen, more parties, more
Speaker 1: get togethers, and you actually realize that, like they just
Speaker 1: had a bad day. What you caught to be a
Speaker 1: bad vibe, which just a temporary thing. You actually quite
Speaker 1: like them, like quite a bit, to the point where
Speaker 1: your mutual friends are like, you're shady. You just spent
Speaker 1: that much time ripping into them, and now you think
Speaker 1: they're quite nice, and so they're expecting that you say
Speaker 1: something about it. What do you do in that situation? Oh,
Speaker 1: I hate this, it's not great.
Speaker 2: I think everyone's been guilty of this, making a judgment
Speaker 2: that is not informed. I think you're could be on
Speaker 2: a bit of a damaged control mission at this point.
Speaker 2: Confirm never to them, but to the friend. Like I
Speaker 2: think when you're like two years deep into the friendship,
Speaker 2: you can be like when I first met you.
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't sure what you were about. That was weird, But.
Speaker 2: Now I love you because you're my best friend.
Speaker 1: Would that make you insecure? Though, I'd be like, because
Speaker 1: what if the friend the one that initially had a
Speaker 1: bad vibe whatever, it was kind of like, oh, I
Speaker 1: always liked you, Like what what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: When was that they start getting like two year overdue anxiety.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: When it's so tricky though, because again you do have
Speaker 1: to go on damage control straight away, because there's something
Speaker 1: about anybody with sound mind would recognize what's happened here?
Speaker 1: You made a judgment call and you were wrong. It
Speaker 1: happens all the time. But if your friends are going
Speaker 1: out of your way to call you out on it,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so are you gonna out me? Are
Speaker 1: you going to tell them what I said? Are you jealous?
Speaker 1: Are you going to jeopardize my new friendship? What's happening?
Speaker 1: He just let it go. I let it go, and
Speaker 1: I was one of the problem, so you'd let it go.
Speaker 1: I will say, though, don't let this to tell you
Speaker 1: from bitching by people. Never call it a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a time and place. There's a time and place
Speaker 1: and you could have been right right.
Speaker 2: Just have a think about that one. This is flex
Speaker 2: and Rooms on Kater.
Speaker 1: The day we answer an important question when pointing out
Speaker 1: something embarrassing on someone else? What matters more timing? Or tacked?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: What matters more? Tacked Ooh? Okay, the only reason why
Speaker 1: I asked. A couple of weeks ago, Aubrey Plaza was
Speaker 1: on stage at the SAG Awards winning some kind of award,
Speaker 1: and she was wearing like a crossover holton neck dress
Speaker 1: with some underboob, very high fashion, very incredible. Now she's
Speaker 1: walked the red carpet with her co stars. She's been sitting,
Speaker 1: you know, in the room with her co stars, and
Speaker 1: it wasn't up until she got into stage standing around
Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys and a fellow coastars. One
Speaker 1: of them kind of like points to her and turns
Speaker 1: his back to the camera and kind of like signals
Speaker 1: at her outfit, and then she kind of like holds
Speaker 1: her chest embarrassed, and then she's like freaking out about
Speaker 1: her outfit. And so you can't really clock what's happening here,
Speaker 1: but if you have, you know, any kind of awareness
Speaker 1: of social skills, you kind of have gathered that he's
Speaker 1: pointed out that she's having what he presumes to be
Speaker 1: a wardrobe malfunction. She was not. She was showing a
Speaker 1: little bit of under boob, and that is fine. What
Speaker 1: happened after was two things. The internet blown up saying,
Speaker 1: why does she look so am like, Why did she
Speaker 1: make that face on stage of all the time to
Speaker 1: do that? Why was she more aware of her surroundings.
Speaker 1: It's so odd like she's making it about her, She's
Speaker 1: drawing attention to herself. Right then I took then people
Speaker 1: were like, wait a second. She didn't just like react
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. She responded to him saying something to her,
Speaker 1: let's play the tapes. And so what's happened is that
Speaker 1: he's turned his back to the camera. So obviously she's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what happened to you? Like what's going on? And then
Speaker 1: he's pointed at her chest and whatever he said was
Speaker 1: not The timing wasn't great, and the tact wasn't great.
Speaker 1: So she freaked out and looked visibly annoyed, like she
Speaker 1: had embarrassed everybody around her, only to find out there
Speaker 1: was no malfunction to begin with. And so my question
Speaker 1: is what could he have done better? Right timing or tacked?
Speaker 1: One might assume the timing wasn't great. Right, you're on stage,
Speaker 1: you're winning the award? Was there anything else he could
Speaker 1: have done? We don't know what he said, so we
Speaker 1: can't assume that he didn't have tacked. But what ensued
Speaker 1: was this really fascinated conversation that like initially went to
Speaker 1: like she was the problem, and it's like she's a victim.
Speaker 1: Can I take us back to Justin Tim Blake and
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. He reveals her bust causes her to have
Speaker 1: a water malfunction. Now she's the fluozy. Now she should
Speaker 1: have known better.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it, do you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? And it's like I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say we're sensing a trend, but I do want to
Speaker 1: say I just feel like there was a level of
Speaker 1: awareness that was missing, Like so there were so many
Speaker 1: points in time when they were him and Aubrey. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the guy's name is, sorry, sorry king?
Speaker 1: Which one really look like just like John something, John Grees,
Speaker 1: John Gray. I don't know the.
Speaker 2: Older guy in the past. I feel like this is important,
Speaker 2: but no older guy.
Speaker 1: He was an older guy, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was the older guy. How old was he? Like eighty?
Speaker 1: He had white hair, oh white.
Speaker 2: And babes Okay, I just says a lot of white
Speaker 2: Lotus fans in the house.
Speaker 1: You can google. And it's not about that situation in particular,
Speaker 1: but they are like it where you when you position
Speaker 1: yourself to be the person who helps someone else, like
Speaker 1: a hero. Complex bit of a say, if you're the
Speaker 1: person who's doing the right thing, you run the risk
Speaker 1: of doing the very wrong thing. And what has ensued
Speaker 1: is that a really amazing career accolade has been deduced
Speaker 1: into this, Like he said, she said, wardrobe malfunction? Was
Speaker 1: it not? Why is she not happy to be here?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't she hold herself better? And she actually had
Speaker 1: to come out and say, like, you know, I did
Speaker 1: seven or eight fittings for this dress I wanted under boob.
Speaker 1: I can assure you that when I knew that I
Speaker 1: was coming to an award of this cow, but I
Speaker 1: did my due diligence. I can assure you everyone around
Speaker 1: me did their due diligence, like do not worry. And
Speaker 1: then people were like nobody was just trying to do
Speaker 1: a nice thing, and I'm like, oh gosh, she cannot
Speaker 1: escape this. Even me talking about it now is just
Speaker 1: perpetuating this narrative like she can't escape it and it sucks.
Speaker 1: But I will say, it's more of a PSA.
Speaker 2: And what's a psa that?
Speaker 1: Like, of course in hacked intent, you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about it often what you intended to do and the
Speaker 1: impact of what you did, but also recognizing that like
Speaker 1: it's not as simple as like, oh, the good person
Speaker 1: points out the thing like you got somebody in your
Speaker 1: teeth let me point it out. It's like, M we can.
Speaker 1: There's more to it, and I just want to say,
Speaker 1: when you run the risk of being a hero, you
Speaker 1: could ruin someone's life.
Speaker 2: It's easy, it's yeah, go with that.
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