WEBVTT - Talking pleasure with Chantelle Otten 🎇

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<v Speaker 1>I really need something out of you for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to get any comfort zone and keep

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<v Speaker 1>an open mind more than you ever have in any

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode of the Woodlife. Because first up, we're tackling

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting health topic sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you heard that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I started this podcast to make health and fitness simple,

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<v Speaker 1>easier for people to understand. But the more we delve

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<v Speaker 1>into it every single week, and we into you these

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful guests, the more you realize just how many elements

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<v Speaker 1>there are to actually leading a holistic healthy life. So sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we can eat well, we can exercise enough, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to consider what benefits sex and pleasure can

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<v Speaker 1>bring to your health. So we're going to delve into

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<v Speaker 1>that topic with one of Australia's leading sexologists. Then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give Brea some tips around the upcoming Easter period.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to Easter time, I don't really know

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<v Speaker 4>what to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to I fully deprived myself of chocolate,

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<v Speaker 5>but anything that's gifted to me, I end up binge

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<v Speaker 5>eating it and then I fall off my healthy eating habit.

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<v Speaker 5>How should I navigate the Easter period?

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<v Speaker 1>It really can be such a tricky time when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to stay healthy. So we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little later on. I'm Sam Wood and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the wood Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it. Okay, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very very excited about our next guest, Chantellotten, which

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<v Speaker 1>many of you may know. She is a psycho sexologist

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<v Speaker 1>and relationship therapist and the author of the sex Ed

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<v Speaker 1>You Never Had.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right on the Woodlife.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are talking sex, the naughty word, the taboo word,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to change all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So welcome to the Woodline.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. No, I'm excited to be here. And look, sex

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<v Speaker 3>is a healthy part of life and happiness and quality

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<v Speaker 3>of life, so I think it's a good conversation to have.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not really getting that nasty on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean we are a fitness, a health podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I absolutely think that sex is an important part

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally good for cardiovascular health.

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<v Speaker 1>Vascular health, for our mental health, and many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, we often talk to people on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly women who don't necessarily have great self esteem, and

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<v Speaker 1>getting themselves into shape is sort of part of building

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<v Speaker 1>that self confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>And building that self esteem.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would think that there'd be a parallel between

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<v Speaker 1>the love that you have for yourself and the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>you have with your partner, you know, I think there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be parallels and coral between those two.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you do agree with that totally?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, if you think about your clients and

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<v Speaker 3>people who come see you, if they feel good about

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<v Speaker 3>their bodies, they're able to open up more. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like they feel like they're living in a beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>chateau and they're taking care of the garden and they're

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<v Speaker 3>giving it a lot of love and they can open

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<v Speaker 3>the doors. If you're not feeling good within your body,

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<v Speaker 3>it can sometimes feel like a little bit of a prison,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where you're kind of you're locked in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know how to get out, You're not sure

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<v Speaker 3>which way to move with it. And I think we're

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<v Speaker 3>all going to get to that stage once in a

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<v Speaker 3>while we're not feeling that good and we're feeling a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit stuck. But you know, small little acts, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>small little movements, even things like taking a shower and

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<v Speaker 3>taking it slow in the shower and putting on body wash.

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<v Speaker 2>These are all little.

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<v Speaker 3>Central things that we don't really talk about because we're

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<v Speaker 3>used to talking about sex in like a penetrative heterosexual way,

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<v Speaker 3>penis and vagina sex, right, But sex is really expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even have to be about penetrating. It can

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<v Speaker 3>be anything you do to feel sexy in.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, and already that's sort of shifting, that's

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<v Speaker 1>opening my mind. I think that's really really good way

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<v Speaker 1>to start things off. So why do you think it

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<v Speaker 1>is such a deboo topic. Where do these barriers come

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<v Speaker 1>from and how do we break them down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think it's just many, many years of being

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<v Speaker 3>told that we have to keep it quiet. It's movies

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<v Speaker 3>where you see kind of very conservative views of sexuality.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always kind of the same. It's very quick, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of penetrative sex. It's the multicultural society

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<v Speaker 3>that we live in. It's different religions. It's the lack

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<v Speaker 3>of sex education, consent to education, and it's lack of

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<v Speaker 3>highlighting the term pleasure because I think we don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>about pleasure enough when we talk about sex. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we think in quite a goal orientated kind of way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if we start to expand that view to

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<v Speaker 3>think about okay, well, actually, what gives me pleasure? That

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<v Speaker 3>makes people feel a lot more comfortable when approaching the topic.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to mean what they see in movies

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<v Speaker 3>or in porn, or what they feel like they have

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<v Speaker 3>to do. It's what do I want to do? What

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<v Speaker 3>brings me pleasure?

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<v Speaker 2>So why is please?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you've shifted shifted to there? What does

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<v Speaker 1>it do to us from an overall health perspective?

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<v Speaker 3>Such a great question, Well done. I think that pleasure

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<v Speaker 3>is important because it, first of all, releases really good,

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<v Speaker 3>feel good indoorphins. So dopamine, which is the bonding hormone.

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<v Speaker 3>We have oxytocin, which is like the love hormone, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it raises our serotonin. It's also a natural analgesic,

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<v Speaker 3>So that means if you've got a bit of a headache,

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<v Speaker 3>if you masturbate, or if you have sex and you

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<v Speaker 3>have an orgasm, you will notice that your headache actually

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<v Speaker 3>goes down a little bit. It's same for chronic pain

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<v Speaker 3>conditions too. I think when it comes to pleasure, it's

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<v Speaker 3>important because just expands people's views because we have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a lot of vagina owners who have painful

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<v Speaker 3>sex that can be deep pain, that can be penetrative pain.

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<v Speaker 3>This is you know, especially common in the postpartum period

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<v Speaker 3>as well. We have a lot of people who don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel confident with their bodies. So maybe they turn off

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<v Speaker 3>the lights and maybe then they have to engage in

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<v Speaker 3>their sense of touch, their sense of smell, their sense

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<v Speaker 3>of hearing, right, so that can bring different sorts of pleasure.

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<v Speaker 3>We have people with different abilities, disabilities that can be

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from mild to severe, and for them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to sensuality, they are really focused on

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure because that might even just be like a head massage,

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<v Speaker 3>like a head scratchy that that can be erotic as

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not feeling like the full three course meal,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to settle for it for a head scratch

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<v Speaker 3>once in a while. And I think pleasure just expands

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<v Speaker 3>the way that we can have sex because we're just

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<v Speaker 3>focusing on what feels good for us and our sexual

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<v Speaker 3>partner at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so getting out of this one dimensional thought process,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see better relationships or better quality sexual relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and overall relationships to those individuals and couples that expand

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<v Speaker 1>their thought process, you know, beyond this sort of one

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<v Speaker 1>dimensional way of the way of thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>About sex totally.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean one of the questions, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>ask it to you. I'm going to see how you

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<v Speaker 3>how you respond to us. No, it's very simple. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the questions that I asked my patients is what

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<v Speaker 3>does sex mean to you? And it's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>hardest things for them because it means so many different things.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does sex mean to you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, for me, it's connection. For me, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>This is quite a sexual person and a very touchy

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<v Speaker 1>feely person. And I especially think since we've had kids,

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<v Speaker 1>life goes past you so busily and so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>when we have sex, it's actually one of the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>times where time slows down quality. Yeah, Like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to tell you how long we have sex for, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because it really is almost a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an out of body experience, and there's a complete closeness

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<v Speaker 1>and intimacy where all of the other craziness in our

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<v Speaker 1>very busy, you know, chaotic lives just disappears for however

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<v Speaker 1>long it is, and it has a definitely has a

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<v Speaker 1>carryover effect. I mean there's then.

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<v Speaker 2>A real sort of afterglow after glow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is, and and our relationship has a closeness.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, for me, it's connection and closeness and just

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<v Speaker 1>just that real connectivity in such a crazy time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a beautiful answer as well. Congratulations. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like you've got a wonderful sex life. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that this highlights something really important. Sex shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>just something that you do. It should be a place

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<v Speaker 3>that you go and you know it should be It

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<v Speaker 3>should be something that does bring you to a different level. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It can cause a real shift, and I think usually

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<v Speaker 3>in a positive direction, But there are lots of people

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<v Speaker 3>out there that have sex because they feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>need to, because it's expected. They push through painful sex.

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<v Speaker 3>They have sex that might be filled with shame, or

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<v Speaker 3>they might be trauma in their background. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not everyone has a wonderful sex life. And sex lives,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they vary. They can be good for a period,

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<v Speaker 3>they can suck for a period, they can need a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of work. And I guess in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I have a career. I'm lucky that I

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<v Speaker 3>went into sexology because I'm always going to have something

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<v Speaker 3>to work on and there's always new studies coming out

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<v Speaker 3>about sexuality. It's really kind of an understudied field at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it detrimental to us if we don't have sex

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<v Speaker 1>or pleasure for a particular length of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I mean it's quality over quantity, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is quite individualized because you know, for some people,

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<v Speaker 3>once a month is great. For some people they want

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<v Speaker 3>it every day and you're always you know, usually in

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship there will be someone with a higher sex

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<v Speaker 3>drive and someone with a lower sex drive, and that

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<v Speaker 3>might kind of yo yo between them for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really think you can't measure that. You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>measure levels of desire because everyone's view of desire is

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<v Speaker 3>completely different, and you can't really say to someone, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you should be having this amount of sex, because people

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<v Speaker 3>only come to see me when they're distressed about their

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<v Speaker 3>sex lives. They don't come to see me if they're

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<v Speaker 3>really happy unless they want to, you know, spice it

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit more. But you know, if it's

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<v Speaker 3>distressing for the individual couple, maybe that's when it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be worked on a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so with all of the people that you see

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<v Speaker 1>in all of your stuff, that they say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get twenty staff that are helping people round the

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<v Speaker 1>clock with this stuff, which is just so wonderful to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the ways in which you help people if

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<v Speaker 1>there's low sex drive or low desire or what are

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<v Speaker 1>the common ways that you help get things going again?

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<v Speaker 3>Desire problems are the most difficult thing to treat. We

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<v Speaker 3>look at sex and we look at sexuality and pleasure

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<v Speaker 3>from a biopsychosocial model, so that means biological, what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in your body, your hormones, your health, chronic pain, et cetera. Psychological,

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<v Speaker 3>So what's going on in your head, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the brain is the biggest sexual organ, so if there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot going on in there, if it's not very still,

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<v Speaker 3>then that can be difficult. And then socioculture, what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>within your life, what's happening in your community, your culture?

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<v Speaker 3>What messages did you get about sex growing up? And

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<v Speaker 3>what about your relationship? So we have to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>look at all these different factors and I like to

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<v Speaker 3>get people to write down, Okay, well, what's impacting me

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to desire, and it's almost worthwhile kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thinking about it. Like you're driving a car, you're

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<v Speaker 3>driving your desire car. There are going to be things

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<v Speaker 3>that put the accelerator on that make you really feel horny,

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<v Speaker 3>that make you feel good, that make you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you want to move towards self pleasure or sensuality or sexuality,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is. And you know, that can mean feeling

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<v Speaker 3>really fit and healthy and strong. That can mean making

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<v Speaker 3>sure your irons are up to par, your relationship is

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<v Speaker 3>going good, your self pleasuring off, and you've got a

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<v Speaker 3>new toy. What's going to put the accelerator on? And

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<v Speaker 3>you have to write down all of these things that

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<v Speaker 3>you can remember from the last time that you felt

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<v Speaker 3>really good in the bedroom. And then you have to

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<v Speaker 3>think about, okay, well, what's putting on the brake here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because if I'm driving this car, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to have my foot off the brake a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>and more on the accelerator. So is that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have private time. There's no lock on my bedroom door.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids are touching me all the time. I'm fatigued,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not eating well. I feel you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to go to bed. My relationship is

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<v Speaker 3>not good, and you have to think, okay, well, what

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<v Speaker 3>can I do in this break basket that is going

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<v Speaker 3>to help me lift my foot off the pedal there?

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<v Speaker 3>And that might mean going to the doctor and making

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<v Speaker 3>sure that you you know, your hormones are well and

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<v Speaker 3>good and that you're getting on the nutrients that you need.

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<v Speaker 3>It might mean putting a lock on your bedroom door.

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<v Speaker 3>It might mean doing relationship therapy with your partner. There

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<v Speaker 3>are ways to do it, it's just more can you

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<v Speaker 3>prioritize sexuality enough to focus on these things and move

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<v Speaker 3>towards Yeah, putting the accelerator.

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<v Speaker 2>On as well. What a brilliant analogy.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Chanto, I didn't realize before we met, not that

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, but I didn't realize you had this wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>clinic with twenty staff helping people. What areas do you

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<v Speaker 1>specialize in at the clinic.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called the Australian Institute of Sexology and Sexual Medicine

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<v Speaker 3>and we do a lot of online therapy, but we

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<v Speaker 3>also have pelvic health physios, so the pelvic floor it's

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<v Speaker 3>what controls your bowls, your bladder, but also if you're

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<v Speaker 3>having discomfort or pain with sex, so that might be

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<v Speaker 3>deep pain, kind of kind of like period pain. Menstrual pain,

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<v Speaker 3>or it can be sharp pain. It can be pain

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<v Speaker 3>on entry. So if like a finger, a tampon a penis,

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<v Speaker 3>a vibrator is going in, it feels like burning, stinging,

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<v Speaker 3>like sensations. That's called vaginismus. Sounds like Christmas for the vagina,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Halloween, very very uncomfortable. And then there's volverdinia,

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<v Speaker 3>which is pain on the vulva. So the vulver is

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<v Speaker 3>all the skin that touches your underwear. It's between your

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<v Speaker 3>legs and the vaginal opening. And you know, some people

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<v Speaker 3>won't be able to ride a bike because of volverdinia.

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<v Speaker 3>They might have to put ice packs down there. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you're having a crappy time in the bedroom, you

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<v Speaker 3>deserve a team around you that's going to treat you

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<v Speaker 3>with the best care possible. So that's what we work

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<v Speaker 3>on a lot at our clinic. And I think that

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<v Speaker 3>sexual pain is probably one of our bread and butter

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<v Speaker 3>conditions and we specialize in it. And then things like cancers,

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<v Speaker 3>we see penis owners, so erect ol dysfunction, premature ejaculation,

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<v Speaker 3>and orgasmia, so difficulty having an orgasm, different body issues,

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<v Speaker 3>self esteem, sexual self esteem, which is a really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>one that actually, yeah, we should talk about a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more because I think that I think that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of your listeners will probably struggle with sexual self

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<v Speaker 3>esteem issues.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are the most common sexual self esteem issues?

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<v Speaker 3>I think what I hear about a lot is like

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<v Speaker 3>not wanting to be seen naked, not wanting to take

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<v Speaker 3>your clothes off in front of your partner, so getting

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<v Speaker 3>changed maybe in the closet or you know, in the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not wanting to wear bikini bathers even go anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>near water, to be honest, and you know, wearing baggy

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<v Speaker 3>clothes probably not like worshiping your body the way should

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<v Speaker 3>be worshiped, because everyone has a beautiful body. But I

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<v Speaker 3>understand it. It is really what's going on in your

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<v Speaker 3>own head that makes you feel a certain way. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the way that we've grown up in

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<v Speaker 3>media is to see picture perfect people on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>on magazines, etc. And I feel very lucky to be

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<v Speaker 3>part of this time where we are seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more diversity and real people in media and online.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is your advice to these people that are

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<v Speaker 1>having sexual self esteem challenges or fears or doubts that

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<v Speaker 1>are sneaking in. They're noticing certain behaviors because of these feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there wouldn't be just one answer that solves

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<v Speaker 1>all of these problems, and it's often dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>head about the body.

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<v Speaker 3>But we do a few tips and tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd love some tips and tricks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that first of all, just know that you

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<v Speaker 3>are worth it. You are worth kind of looking into

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<v Speaker 3>this area, and you are worth spending some time on yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't often give ourselves permission to work on ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>or even to relax once in a while. You might

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<v Speaker 3>not have to take these tips coming up. But sleep naked.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a great one first and foremost. Just

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<v Speaker 3>get comfortable with feeling your skin on the sheets, having

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<v Speaker 3>your partner next to you. Encourage your partner if you

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<v Speaker 3>have one, to sleep naked as well. I think also

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<v Speaker 3>take photos of yourself naked. Your body is beautiful. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that there are areas of your body that you

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<v Speaker 3>can look at, and I hope that you can shift

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<v Speaker 3>your mindset around them too and just go wow, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I love my curves, or I really like my boobs

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<v Speaker 3>or I have beautiful eyes and focus on those areas.

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<v Speaker 3>Take photos of yourself in positions that you feel really

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<v Speaker 3>good in. You don't have to send it to anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>You can if you want. But I think that that's

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<v Speaker 3>a really great idea. Dance around to music naked, that

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<v Speaker 3>can be in the bathroom, that can be in a

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<v Speaker 3>private room, or you know, dance around the house, feel

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<v Speaker 3>the sun on your skin. It's such a erotic feeling. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really about creativity and imagination. And then I always

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<v Speaker 3>think tuning into your senses is really important, and I

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<v Speaker 3>encourage people, if they're not sure what that actually means,

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<v Speaker 3>to listen to an orgasmic meditation. You're probably like, what

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<v Speaker 3>the hell you're talking about. But if you go online,

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<v Speaker 3>there are hypnosis meditations that will allow you to touch

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<v Speaker 3>your body in certain ways that are not genital focused, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so that actually build up the amount of pleasure in you.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite one is by a guy called Madison James.

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<v Speaker 3>He's this English guy who has the sexiest voice, and

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<v Speaker 3>it goes for an hour and he is basically guiding

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<v Speaker 3>you in a very sexy way on how to touch

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<v Speaker 3>your body. And it basically is like edging, so edging

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<v Speaker 3>is where if your orgasm is a ten, you start

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<v Speaker 3>off at one and you build up your amount of

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure to maybe like a seven, and then he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>and now you need to stop there, and he brings

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<v Speaker 3>you back down to a five on this scale, and

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<v Speaker 3>he brings you up to a seven, and he's telling

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<v Speaker 3>you where to touch yourself, and you start getting really

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<v Speaker 3>in tune with your body. And then when he allows

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<v Speaker 3>you at the end, you're allowed to go up to

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<v Speaker 3>a ten and orgasm. I mean when I did it,

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<v Speaker 3>I had like electricity running from my fingertips down to

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<v Speaker 3>my vulva area down to my toes. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>I was electrocuted. Some of my friends who have like

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<v Speaker 3>never orgasmed had an orgasm. It's crazy. So have fun everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great answer, What a great answer, And thank

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<v Speaker 2>you As an individual, that's what we can assess. What

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<v Speaker 2>about as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple, all right, So sex is the hardest thing to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to your partner about. I think it's really difficult

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of people to communicate about sexuality with

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<v Speaker 3>their partners because you know, I think there's hesitations there

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<v Speaker 3>that might be a little bit of shame. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to bother them or make them feel insecure. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you can work on the communication side of things,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really important. And you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be verbal. It can be writing down what

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<v Speaker 3>you like to do in the bedroom, so you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe's and nose so you know, maybe you like oral sex,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's a yes. Maybe a maybe is toys, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a no is anal play. So you have to

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<v Speaker 3>write down your menu of things that you like and

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<v Speaker 3>your partner can do that too, and then you can

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<v Speaker 3>swap and go, okay, well maybe we can pick a

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<v Speaker 3>few of these activities and trial them out. I also

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<v Speaker 3>think working on your love languages, so actually working on

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<v Speaker 3>the overall relationship is really good. You know, the love

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<v Speaker 3>languages are basically, how do I show you love in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you want to be loved? Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>when you're talking about Snaz before, you're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a very touchy feely person, so she might give

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of physical touch because she also likes to

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<v Speaker 3>receive physical touch. It makes her feel loved, makes her

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<v Speaker 3>feel wanted, feel good. That's just going to boost up

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<v Speaker 3>your relationship. If you can figure out each other's love languages.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to get better because a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>time we give love the way that we want to

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<v Speaker 3>receive love, but our partner might not actually want that.

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<v Speaker 3>They might not want gifts, or they might not care about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, words of affirmation. Maybe they just want some

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<v Speaker 3>quality time and physical affection. What else I think, like,

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<v Speaker 3>be expansive, because often we get like this sexual menu

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<v Speaker 3>that we get quite used to. Sam. If you and

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<v Speaker 3>I were like, you know, well, let's go get dinner

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<v Speaker 3>after this, and I was like, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the Italian restaurant down the road. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get pasta. It's going to be amazing, and we have

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<v Speaker 3>a great time. Wonderful. What if I see you next

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<v Speaker 3>week and I go, let's go back to that Italian place? Cool,

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<v Speaker 3>we get a bit more excited about it. If every

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<v Speaker 3>time I see you, I want to go back to

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<v Speaker 3>the same Italian place, You're going to be like chantelle.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really predictable and kind of boring, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to have that same menu anymore, right, So work

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<v Speaker 3>on your different menus and add in a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of variety. Change up the location, change up the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't expect yourself to be having sex ten pm each night,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're most likely going to be cooked. Maybe have

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<v Speaker 3>it on like a Sunday morning, or slip into the

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<v Speaker 3>shower with your partner or you know, join them in

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<v Speaker 3>the laundry or something like that in the car. Add

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of variation and it will start improving

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<v Speaker 3>your want to have sex because it's a bit more exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a bridge to cross there.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely awesome, great analogies.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want all of our woodline business to be driving

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<v Speaker 1>fast and trying lots of different restaurants. I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to hear the feedback that comes in from our callers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I cannot thank you enough for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>On the woodline. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's that time of year where chocolate takes over

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<v Speaker 1>most of the shelves at the soupmak. We're bombarded with

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<v Speaker 1>the chocolate eggs from friends, family, and even work colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if we don't buy it for ourselves, it

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<v Speaker 1>is that time of year where somehow it always ends

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<v Speaker 1>up in the house. So, no matter how good our

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<v Speaker 1>habits are or our healthy choices, any big holiday centered

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<v Speaker 1>around food, particularly chocolate, can throw us off and Easter,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is the biggest one for that. So Brea

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<v Speaker 1>has a question that I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>will be battling with at this time of year.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Sam, I'm a massive sweet truth that I usually

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<v Speaker 5>try not to buy anything too sweet at the supermarket,

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<v Speaker 5>Otherwise I end up eating a.

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<v Speaker 4>Whole block of chocolate in one city. However, when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to Easter time, I don't really know what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to fully deprive myself of chocolate, but

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<v Speaker 4>anything that's gifted to me, I end up binge eating it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I fall off my healthy eating habits and

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<v Speaker 4>that which leads to me feeling bad, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>have strong cravings for weeks after. How should I navigate

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<v Speaker 4>the Easter period?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Brea, it is so true. It is such a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time to navigate. The Thing that always blows my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is these people that you visit in August and

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<v Speaker 1>they still somehow have their Easter goody sitting in the pantry.

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<v Speaker 1>It absolutely blows me away. I don't understand these people.

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<v Speaker 1>I often say, I understand what our wood Life listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about. I really understand what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Picking out on the little chocolate caberry eggs, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>so little that you tell yourself it's just one little leg.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you eat a thousand of them a week,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what it all adds up. So I totally get

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<v Speaker 1>where you're coming from. The most important thing is you

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<v Speaker 1>don't deprive yourself, because I think when you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just setting yourself up to explode on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the equation. As much as you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat everything that is insight and everything that is

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<v Speaker 1>given to you in one or two sittings, depriving yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and then feeling like you've really missed out and having

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<v Speaker 1>that really negative relationship with food and getting frustrated yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and then going and finding it somewhere somehow anyway is

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<v Speaker 1>not the answer. So this is the perfect occasion and

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect example of setting boundaries for ourself. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think when it comes to Easter, irrespective of how much

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate you get for yourself, or you're given or the

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<v Speaker 1>ester bunny brings you, you want to set some boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself, and then you want to perhaps put some

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<v Speaker 1>smart things in play to ensure that those boundaries or

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<v Speaker 1>those rules or whatever it might be, are adhered to.

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<v Speaker 1>So by that, I mean it might be I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to allow myself x amount of chocolate per day over

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<v Speaker 1>the next three days or seven days, or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe you put that in the fridge or

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<v Speaker 1>in the pantry or wherever you like to get your

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate from, and you remove the rest out of arm's reach,

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<v Speaker 1>away from temptation. Now we have little kids, so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really hard to do because there tends to be

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate flying around everywhere. But I do the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>for myself, and I'm not terribly trustworthy. I don't usually

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<v Speaker 1>win those battles against myself, so I get snedzed to

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<v Speaker 1>enforce those. So I will say to her, sweet no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, don't let me eat more than this much

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate per day, or I even do it on a

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<v Speaker 1>day by day basis. I'm like, this is all the

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate I'm allowed today. And she goes, she looks at me,

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<v Speaker 1>rolls her eyes, raises her eyebrows. We'll say about that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be kicking and screaming and carrying on

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<v Speaker 1>like a poor chop.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's good. She's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a tough gatekeeper, and I feel great because I've

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<v Speaker 1>still gotten my little fix, I've still gotten my chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>I've still really enjoyed East. It's been a really beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>time with the family. But I haven't eaten myself sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I feel guilty and angry and like I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go and run fifteen k's the next day

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<v Speaker 1>to get back on an even playing field. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you say, there's all those carryover effects of cravings and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. So make some rules, stick

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<v Speaker 1>to those rules, and if you don't trust yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>stick to those rules all on your own, get a

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<v Speaker 1>gatekeeper to make sure you do. Brett, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that question. It really was one that hit

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<v Speaker 1>home with me. And I must say, I think today's

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite episode. And why wouldn't have been. We've just

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<v Speaker 1>spoken about chocolate and sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't get much better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think our listeners have got some wonderful homework

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<v Speaker 1>from a sexual exploration or desire or pleasure perspective from Chantelle,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we can all enjoy Easter guilt free

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<v Speaker 1>without going too overboard, have a wonderful time with your

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family, and of course, if you ever have

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<v Speaker 1>any questions, don't hesitate to send them through. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>link in the show notes, and I'd absolutely love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from you. Of course, I'll be back on Easter

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<v Speaker 1>Monday with another motivational moment, and you can always listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the WODLFE for free on the iHeartRadio app. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you soon.