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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast. Nimmi, we've got time.

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Speaker 1: It is in the studio with this now welcome.

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Speaker 2: Time's good checking the phone on silent there, Yeah, making sure.

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Speaker 3: You know, I gotta be very locked in. We're in Australia.

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Speaker 3: Australia's are locked in, so I gotta be locked in.

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Speaker 1: Is it the vibe so far?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: When I went to the shows, when I went to

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Speaker 3: Splendor in the Grass, it didn't matter if they were

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Speaker 3: in six feet of mud.

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Speaker 4: They were locked in. I told them to jump. They said,

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Speaker 4: tried to jump out of the mud. You know.

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Speaker 1: So he came to Australia for Splending in the Grass.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Australia's is you know, beautiful, tropical ish remote island.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have a whole bunch of fun. Are you

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Speaker 1: get here? You're just cleander? What's what's interception made?

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Speaker 4: What sort of a journey was that? I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 4: it was great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good because not only was like Splendor

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Speaker 3: when I played, Yeah, I felt I'm a pretty lucky person.

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Speaker 3: I went to a radiso before and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're they're canceling stuff, and I was like, they're not

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Speaker 3: going to cancel me.

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Speaker 4: So I was ready.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, though, you're someone who seems like

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Speaker 5: someone who's ready for rejection or being blocked in your life,

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Speaker 5: because I reckon you, my friend, Like I've read your

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Speaker 5: story and it's an awesome story. You you auditioned for

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Speaker 5: both American Idol and The Voice This is over in

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Speaker 5: the States, and got rejected time and time again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, can you.

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Speaker 5: Tell me a bit about how your confidence pushes through that,

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Speaker 5: you know, because obviously now you can look back and

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Speaker 5: you know you've made it to an extent and your

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Speaker 5: touring in Australia, But how do you get through rejections?

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Speaker 4: It's not really my confidence.

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Speaker 3: It's just that I have no I have no confidence

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Speaker 3: in human beings. I think that we're all like like,

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Speaker 3: what is it? What is an opinion? Can you hold it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: So am I supposed to take your opinion or or

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Speaker 3: just figure out how to make myself better? And that's

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Speaker 3: what I did after those shows, rejecting, getting myself rejected

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Speaker 3: like three or four times a year.

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Speaker 4: It was like my daily routine.

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Speaker 3: My my yearly routine was like going on and be like, okay,

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Speaker 3: the Voice, what I got? I'm going to write a

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Speaker 3: silly little song and figure it out. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would just practice. I practiced in my car for

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Speaker 3: like an hour and a half every single day. And

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Speaker 3: the first thing I recorded after practicing, after getting rejected

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Speaker 3: for the fourth.

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Speaker 4: Time, I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna do myself.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I recorded two songs, something to Cry About

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Speaker 3: and Stuck in the Middle, and they're both on my

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Speaker 3: first album.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, and then and then they went.

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Speaker 2: And then this is where the advent of TikTok is

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Speaker 2: so phenomenal, because we had Tate mccrayan here during the

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Speaker 2: week as well, and she exactly the same as you,

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Speaker 2: you know, very young upcoming artists who you know, wasn't

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Speaker 2: getting anywhere with any record leavels or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden writes her own stuff,

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Speaker 2: goes on our own on TikTok and nang.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing is you have to start with

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Speaker 3: good something good music. I mean even then you can

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Speaker 2: In terms of in terms of a vehicle, nothing like

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Speaker 2: on the map like that.

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Speaker 1: It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Right like twenty seventeen, you were you were sleeping on

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Speaker 2: your mate's couch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, here's the real story about that. I

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Speaker 3: been on a French couch. I was paying five hundred

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Speaker 3: was really struggling. What I didn't said after I drop

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Speaker 3: out of college, that went on a reality TV show

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Speaker 3: And I just was paying five hundred fifty dollars in

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Speaker 3: I had to get a job. AKA did some modeling

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Speaker 3: at Verizon because I do like phones.

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Speaker 4: I can put on a mean phone screen. You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, what phone? What do you make a

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Speaker 4: mean it's a phone protector?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And now it's like the people there now are like

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Speaker 1: I guess now but wow, it's like a real journey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a journey. I was filming tiktoks in

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Speaker 4: the store.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's making money, so I'm still paying for you

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Speaker 5: five and fifty couch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, got the job.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was working on music.

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Speaker 4: Wow, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I would just leave the phone store go to my

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Speaker 3: produced house, Adam Friedman, And yeah, he was the guy

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Speaker 3: who had the demo in his computer of a okay

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Speaker 2: I was going to say one of the songs I

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Speaker 2: went viral on TikTok was a okay, do you want

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Speaker 4: Now? You on the other side, what's good? This is

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Speaker 4: tiber days and this is a okay on Will?

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Speaker 1: And what time it is he's in the studio with

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Speaker 2: I fit soggy after Splendor in the.

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Speaker 4: Grass, Yeah, just a little bit got some mud on me.

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Speaker 1: Did you when you when you're splanning, do you did you?

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Speaker 2: Obviously those cues that want to go for tens of

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Speaker 2: hours in order to get to the festival, did you?

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Speaker 4: Guys? Did you?

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Speaker 1: Did you chop her in?

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Speaker 2: Or was that just the strokes and a few other Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was the strokes.

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Speaker 4: I took I took a van.

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Speaker 1: You were in the cues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in the cues as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that all the artists were vanned

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Speaker 3: in and then we also, you know, we were stepping

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Speaker 1: The conditions obviously we kind of scaped.

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Speaker 4: You can't sit that band. Yeah, they weren't that bad.

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Speaker 3: I think that I been to other festivals and others,

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Speaker 2: You know, so you guys obviously, but you get a

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Speaker 2: different set of standaritive treatment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, hopefully I'm trying to you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to be possible.

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Speaker 1: You expect that. You can't expect that.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, no, even when I wasn't an artist, I

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Speaker 3: was still boozy, you know what I'm saying. Like I

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Speaker 3: There was a rooftop pool in the living room that I.

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Speaker 4: Was staying in. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I can ask you when you are backstage, are you

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Speaker 5: this sort of person who's, like I want to make

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Speaker 5: the other artists or are you just like I'm just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going about my own business. Ntil they want

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Speaker 3: to meet me to be honest, because I'm you know.

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Speaker 1: What, you don't want to feed on fangirl around them

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is I've fangled over one artist and

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Speaker 3: in Lex. I met him in the Lax Airport and I.

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Speaker 4: Was like, dude, I love your music.

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Speaker 3: He was like thanks, and that was all we had

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, this sucks.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: You know when I say, you know the expression didn't

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Speaker 2: make your heroes, yeah, you have nothing to talk about

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Speaker 4: There's a reason why.

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Speaker 3: Like if I had to talk to Superman right now,

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Speaker 3: what do you want me to do? He has to

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Speaker 3: talk to like the Justice you know, yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 3: be one of the Justice League members, and then it's

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Speaker 5: Or if Superman says I'm a fan of you, and

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Speaker 2: Conn, you just find some common ground like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Breakfast in the morning's fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the weather. Yeah, do you want to talk

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Speaker 1: But Superman?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: What does he eat though? I don't know what are

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he does. He does what he gets his paler

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Speaker 4: I don't think he hates. He gets apart from you

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Speaker 4: just answer your own question. He just gets from.

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Speaker 2: Something he doesn't get. He's like, he's sustance. What about fiber?

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Speaker 2: You know, Biggs think about.

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Speaker 3: His guts and then can't We're acting like Google doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: You need to be googling.

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Speaker 4: Check anything.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, when you're splinter in the grass.

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Speaker 2: You have a genuine Superman complex with everyone. You're not

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Speaker 2: going up to them and bang like mm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like for me, do you actually you haven't?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean like, if I'm a fan of somebody, and

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Speaker 3: at this point, if it's not somebody that's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: top one hundred artists that you've like heard of, Like

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Speaker 3: if I see someone, I'll go say hi. But honestly,

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Speaker 3: I really have no interest in like collaborating with anyone

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Speaker 3: until my own lane out so that people know what

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to do because right now, even even even

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Speaker 3: you guys kind of you only have like the first album.

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Speaker 3: I have like a four album quadrilogy that I'm planning

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Speaker 3: out right now. Yeah, like I've planned it out for

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Speaker 3: Like I knew that the Blue, the first album is

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Speaker 3: gonna be blue, the next one's gonna be red. Then

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Speaker 3: after that it's gonna be blue and red. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be called three D. I mean, like, I know what's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen in the future, but it's hard for people

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Speaker 3: to understand unless I put it out.

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Speaker 4: You know, so nice.

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Speaker 2: Wow, sounds like a hell of a Jenny Bloody.

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Speaker 5: And you're also your music's in movies too. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: man from Toronto, your song Right or Die is in

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Speaker 5: that film. Did you meet Kevin Hart and Woody Harrelson.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I don't honestly didn't even know when the premiere was.

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Speaker 3: I just they asked, I'm so.

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Speaker 4: On my own way.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of music to make you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was a shocking question. You wrote the soundtrack for

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Speaker 1: a film, what He's like? Did you meet the actors

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Speaker 1: in the movie? Yeah, I mean they're busy too.

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Speaker 4: Just beat them up.

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Speaker 1: They're totally different energies.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you guys should catch up for coffee.

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Speaker 1: He did the score.

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Speaker 2: Can think of the thing going on.

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Speaker 3: You know what, if I saw them, I'll be like, yo,

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Speaker 3: you know I'm in the end credits.

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Speaker 1: Before about meeting papers.

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Speaker 3: What have you got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've once wrote a song for a film. You're

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Speaker 1: in sweet so little fails.

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Speaker 4: Just go hey, guys, Drik and Superman eats.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Todd, thanksging to the studio. To me, good luck,

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Speaker 1: good luck, good luck with everything.

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Speaker 2: Man. Honestly like sounds like I love. I love the

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Speaker 2: sense of trajectory that you've gotten. I love the confidence

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Speaker 2: that you've got in that as well. It's a really

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Speaker 2: wonderful story. It's great to have you in studio. Good

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Speaker 2: luck with it all time. It is pleasure.

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Speaker 5: Hear more of the boys on the full podcast.

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Speaker 1: Just scroll up.