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Speaker 1: Matt Ashton. Do you know what I love?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know you love football, you love beer,

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Speaker 2: you love lingerie. I think what else have I missed?

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Speaker 1: I love sleep, you.

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Speaker 3: Love cross podcasts, integrations, usions, fusions, fusions.

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Speaker 2: If you will.

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Speaker 3: And this week we have a very special guest from

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Speaker 3: a very popular podcast.

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Speaker 2: I call him a megastar. He's a megastar, a podcast megastar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's paving the way I would say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pioneer.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 2: He has crawled through the world of podcasting, so mere

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Speaker 2: mortals like us can run.

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Speaker 3: And walk and and all sorts of different methods of transportation.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ryan John. Ryan John, right, does sound

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Speaker 1: like Ryan John?

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Speaker 2: Ryan John, not Ryan and John. There's not two guys,

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Speaker 2: there's only the one.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan John, who happens to be one half of

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Speaker 1: Tony and Ryan.

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Speaker 2: That's just they are dominating.

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Speaker 1: They pump out like five, like a big.

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Speaker 2: Old like they're wearing leather with whips, just dominating the

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Speaker 2: podcast world.

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Speaker 1: Are you trying to turn me out? You're trying to

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Speaker 1: make me come dude?

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Speaker 4: What love? I've lit up?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: What do we talk about? Man?

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Speaker 2: We talk about the fact that he has a fake

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Speaker 2: finger okay, because something happened when he was younger a

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Speaker 2: sporting incident, and that it was redamaged during the birth

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Speaker 2: of his child.

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Speaker 3: We also talk about Ryan's biological mother giving him up

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Speaker 3: for adoption when he was born. It was several days

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Speaker 3: later that the hospital requested his biological mum returned to

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Speaker 3: the hospital to give him cuddle's post surgery.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the first time we've had anyone

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Speaker 2: on the podcast who speaks about their experience of being adopted.

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Speaker 2: So this is our first with two doing dads, and

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Speaker 2: it's the first time that I've been able to have

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Speaker 2: a deep dive into what it's like growing up knowing

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Speaker 2: that your parents aren't your biological parents.

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Speaker 3: And his mum actually gave him up as an ultimate

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Speaker 3: sacrifice so that he could live a life to his

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Speaker 3: full potential. And look at him now, I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: She actually left him a letter for him to read

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Speaker 3: when he was old enough, which is.

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Speaker 1: Really really sweet. It's an amazing story.

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Speaker 3: He also talks about meeting his biological father and will

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Speaker 3: and connecting with his biological family.

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Speaker 1: He continues to have a relationship with them.

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Speaker 2: Ash shall we get into it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and you like that big boy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to three doting dads. I am Maddie, Jay, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Ash, and I'm Ryan. Thanks for having me and I

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Speaker 1: come with a scandal.

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Speaker 2: Hold, he'll be quick as podcast all my parenting. It's good.

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Speaker 2: It's the bad and the relabel and we don't give advice.

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Speaker 2: Scandal hit me.

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Speaker 1: Before the scandal though. I just want to apologize.

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Speaker 3: I smell a bit garlicy because I'm trying to kill

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Speaker 3: a parasite and Matt has been giving a shit about it.

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Speaker 2: So how do you kill a parasite? Gallic really don't

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Speaker 2: pass this information onto anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm back to day one because it came back

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Speaker 3: so or it never went No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is this like a medicine alternative? Yeah? Are we conspiracy

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Speaker 1: adjacent show here? Or are we?

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Speaker 2: We have on occasions been known to slag off the

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Speaker 2: medical world, particularly vets.

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Speaker 3: And rural doctors, but we we.

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Speaker 1: I got it from TikTok at the remedy that works.

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Speaker 1: I just went with that and chat GBT backed it up.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that's two scientific facts, two reliable sources. Sam.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt' has been at Oh yeah, do you

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Speaker 1: want him to get better or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, when he's weak, like medicine, he

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Speaker 2: comes in and he's.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the antibiotics makes you feel way worse. I don't

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Speaker 1: want anyway, scandal scandal, So I said, is Laura here today?

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Speaker 1: And what did you say?

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Speaker 2: She's at work.

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Speaker 1: I've come from Life Uncut where I did a show

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Speaker 1: with Keisha and Brittany and that was it.

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Speaker 2: She's having an affair, but I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but if she's a work and I was

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Speaker 1: at her work and she wasn't there, then what's the

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Speaker 1: real fucking story.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is my wife has about twelve jobs.

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Speaker 1: It really works out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, we would really like a new car.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to get back and do it.

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Speaker 2: She was working at Tony May her story. She was

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Speaker 2: there making making rings.

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Speaker 1: She still do that regularly.

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Speaker 2: Her, she designs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I called her. She's an answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's still a ward bottle today. So we called her.

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Speaker 2: She's rejected our calls. This is getting juicy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for bringing this toll right, that's just my

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Speaker 3: gallic breath.

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Speaker 2: Also, thank you. We were alerted our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Ye, who I think I should have crossover?

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Speaker 2: This crossover cross over. Now, yeah, Donna as Donna's she

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Speaker 2: may be a Tapa first and Dota second.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not about it's just where all. It's

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Speaker 1: all fine.

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Speaker 2: She was a quick Listen today's episode yep from the

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Speaker 2: twenty sweper market.

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Speaker 1: Now you guys got half an episode today. Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you. You can't buy that kind of advertising.

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Speaker 1: So the rule is that you can't turn if people

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Speaker 1: have just had a baby, You can't turn up empty handed.

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Speaker 1: Do you appreciate that or is that annoying after a

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Speaker 1: while where you're at after three kids?

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Speaker 2: And no, you know what, I was just always accept

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Speaker 2: food and I think if you are going to bring anything,

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Speaker 2: I think you're always going to have a winner when

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Speaker 2: you bring food with you, because it's just there's no

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Speaker 2: better feeling. They're not having to cook from scratching meal.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: So we brought a lasagna from Melbourne, flew it up

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Speaker 1: to Sydney and it has been an ordeal. But Tony

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Speaker 1: did her famous bechamel sauce that she makes from like scratch.

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Does anyone can anyone help with that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work, but Tony made it from scratch on

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Speaker 1: then apparently for babies you can't have like big chunky

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Speaker 1: we'll do a lasagna. And she makes a great lasanna

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Speaker 1: and she felt bad that she couldn't come up as well,

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Speaker 1: so she's like, all, I can send my love through lasagna.

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Speaker 2: The comments about yourself, like Tony.

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Speaker 1: Is a huge ash fan. I love that. I think

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Speaker 1: she said a few things on the show, but it's

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Speaker 1: what she says after the show and regularly it was

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Speaker 1: like like this will be her scrolling, like she's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, having lunch tween episodes whatever, and she goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: jam Pike, she's a huge and I don't like you

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Speaker 1: gotta take the winds. So I'm sorry Matt that I

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Speaker 1: don't have any words from Tony to pass on.

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Speaker 2: I've got everything I need.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tony, I can confirm. And I think I

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Speaker 1: mentioned before the flight attendant like would not let me

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Speaker 1: put it in the overhead compartment. I was like, you

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't, no, lad no,

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Speaker 1: because he said, but under the seatond front, they're the rules.

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Speaker 1: Well he said it's a projectile and he goes, it

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Speaker 1: could go flying when we take off. You got to

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Speaker 1: put above. And I was like, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you noticed this, Like Tony wasn't generous with the foil,

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Speaker 1: like it's a very travel for travel safe for later. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm not not going to put

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Speaker 1: but then he said put it under the seat in front.

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Speaker 1: And then so when you take off, obviously the front

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Speaker 1: it was fucking chaos. So I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: Do anyone say anything?

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Speaker 1: Lots You will never be more popular than carrying alasagna

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Speaker 4: Enough for all of us?

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Speaker 1: I would have flown first class to it. So they

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Speaker 1: loved it. I'm pretty sure the flight attendant at the

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Speaker 1: Sydney and I was like, oh really, and she goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: someone goes, what's that for? And I said, Australia's Golden

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like seriously, So I was kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, friends have had a baby, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they love that. Like, I'm not going up for any

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Speaker 1: other reason other than the.

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Speaker 2: Mom is going to be so proud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that this is your mum's.

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Speaker 2: This is my mum's behavior.

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Speaker 1: Passing it on to the next GM, just like if

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Speaker 1: it was a Carbondar, we're gonna go of it.

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Speaker 2: Who hates lasagna anyone? The time there?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a big lasagnian, did you? Was the only

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Speaker 1: thing I was concerned about is when my daughter Mabel

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Speaker 1: so much. The next day someone drops in a lasagna

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Speaker 1: thanks and after about the eighth lasagnia just go fuck,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty over Lazani. And that's what I was concerned.

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Speaker 2: It is a lasagna shortage. I've been waiting since the

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Speaker 2: and in those hampers they have some wife and some

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Speaker 2: Someone once told me that the jump from one to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, touch and go, like sometimes I'm like sweet, But

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Speaker 1: Yeah, took photos of me to shame you. The doctor

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Speaker 1: But I'm right, I think you've had too and you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the most trouble that you ever got in

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Speaker 1: Do you want like cheeky or like what an asshole?

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Speaker 1: Whatever comes to mind?

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Speaker 1: This doesn't paint me in a positive light that I respect.

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Speaker 2: We've had people who have murdered animals. We've had people

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like saying it now and hearing it, but

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Speaker 2: You little can't yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: And when the head guy, mister Pringle's his name, he goes,

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Speaker 1: you know you said this, and I was like, now

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Speaker 1: but who's me? And I said, mister Pringle, you've had me?

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Speaker 1: You know what? You know I don't have.

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Speaker 1: also did give my friend a horseshoe tattoo in the

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00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: metal room by heating up a yeah yeah and he yeah.

440
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 1: Kelsy mc goes, oh, don't you think would be cool

441
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: if I like put my arm like he had his

442
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: arm on it, and I went, I'm like put it

443
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: on and he like screamed for thirty seconds and then

444
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: he looked at it and he goes, fuck.

445
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, my heel. Is it still permanent.

446
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: Well, his name's kelsy mc so he's got scars all

447
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 1: over him and I don't know which was men. It

448
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 1: was there for a few years full of horses.

449
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: What a childhood?

450
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, we didn't have a uniform at our school.

451
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes a lot more sense

452
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: after what you've just heard, but no school uniform. I

453
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: didn't really wear shoes that much.

454
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: So how do you decide what to wear each day?

455
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Like other people ask that all

456
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: the time. That don't but after the third day you

457
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: stop kind of giving a fun because it's just normal.

458
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: So you just like end up wearing jeans and a

459
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: T shirt and whatever. And it was like a pretty

460
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: artsy hippie school and so like everyone was just doing

461
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: their own thing and like it was fine. I've never

462
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: been to school with that uniform.

463
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had one high. Yeah, we're always like that.

464
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: They are yay away from them. I'm from Alpham and

465
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: there's two schools. There's Alpham High, which is where i'ment

466
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: with no uniform, and then there's Alpham College where if

467
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: you like have a kid that like is smart, like

468
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: they would go there and if not, they would go

469
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: to Alpham. Alpham College is like legit, and often like

470
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: go from Eltham. They go, oh really, and I got

471
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: not that much.

472
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 4: I didn't let start the train track.

473
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: You've spoken about the fact that you are adopted. Yep,

474
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 2: quite a lot. Do you remember when it was that

475
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: you were first informed that your first memory of being

476
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: told you were adopted.

477
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like almost a Hollywood thing where like,

478
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, like the kid finds out and it's like

479
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: this big moment. But the reality is for ninety nine

480
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: percent of adoptees is that you just grow up knowing.

481
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: And so adoptive parents have asked me like, oh, when

482
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: should I tell them? And I might tell them before

483
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: they're old enough to understand. It's like when you, oh,

484
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: when did you take your first breath? I don't know.

485
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 1: I just started a breath, like it's just so natural.

486
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: So for me it was I just always knew. So

487
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 1: that was never like a big reveal or a big

488
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: moment because they were telling me before any wondering why yeah, yeah,

489
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: and then and we always used to joke about it

490
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: all the time. So my mum's like a rat bag

491
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 1: idiot in the nicest way possible, but when she is

492
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: an idiot that, well, clearly I'm adopted because I'm not

493
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: related to her. It's just a very like natural dialogue

494
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: in the house and stuff, and so yeah, it's just

495
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: really normal. And like since I've like talked about it

496
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: and post online, I've got a lot of dams from

497
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: people being like, oh, I thought I was the only one,

498
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: but like same, Like it was just really normal. But again,

499
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: you watch movies and it's just it's like, you're not

500
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: my real mom, Like did you have those moments?

501
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: No?

502
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: Never, like really never said that once because she is

503
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: my mum in my mind. I don't know any different.

504
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: And we're like, pretty soon.

505
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: Did she clean your room or put you up?

506
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: Well? I don't think so. It's good to know she

507
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: might have thought it, but I think she they had

508
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: twelve years of trying to get pregnant. Yeah, so I

509
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: think anytime I was a brat, they'd probably go happy

510
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: to have you. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but like my

511
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: mum and dad got married when they were twenty one,

512
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: twenty two, and then they're thirty three thirty four when

513
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: I was dropped off. Yeah, and then so how were

514
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: you sorry? I was ten weeks old. Wow. So what

515
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: happens is every year couples who aren't able to conceive

516
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: for whatever reason would like apply and like I don't know,

517
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: the health department would like sign you off or go yep,

518
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: comfortable house, well good. And so in nineteen eighty seven,

519
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: that was a thousand Victorian couples that were willing to adopt,

520
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: and there was fifteen babies. And I often think of

521
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: what's that movie with Gwyneth Paltrow Starting Doors or whatever.

522
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: So that's like a thousand alternative lives that I had

523
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: just given. So I actually met someone who was in

524
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: my batch, like this other person that's three days older

525
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: than me, and he did my will when Mabel was born,

526
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: and they asked me about my family history and I

527
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't really know medical stuff because

528
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: I was adopted. And he's oh me too. It's like,

529
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: oh what year, Oh what month? Oh what day? Saint

530
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: John Anglican blah blah blah, Broad Meadows, Yeah, holy shit. Yeah,

531
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: So he was three days older. The family that adopted

532
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: him were like like Italian, and so he's like lived

533
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: in this Italian household. He's like really smart, he's a

534
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: lawyer now, and I'm like, oh, you could have lived

535
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: with my hippie parents in Alphem if it was like

536
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: a toss of the coin that day.

537
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

538
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like if you smoke weedn think

539
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: about that too hard?

540
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: Really, is it still the same like process, you know,

541
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: like is there more to it?

542
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I assume there's more to it. And I think now,

543
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: and I say this delicately, that if you don't want

544
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: the child, it's probably easier to not have it in

545
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: the first place. Yeah.

546
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say if you if

547
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: you get if you adopt the child, and then like

548
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: there's a certain like grace period.

549
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: Actually, what is it. Really? You can win the oxygen

550
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: on Saturday and change your mind till Tuesday. One of

551
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: those kids do that in the cooling off periods.

552
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: Cooling off with a topic a child, though, actually is

553
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 6: a really good The foster system is now you can

554
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: like be a foster parent to take kids on for

555
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 6: like two week periods.

556
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: Well I was a foster for that first ten weeks.

557
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I ended up with Mum and dad,

558
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: because the foster parents were like, God, this.

559
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: Is okay just to try about his personality.

560
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: I was with from four days old to ten weeks.

561
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: I was with his family and apparently that family had

562
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: forty kids through over ten years. Like they were just like,

563
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, the parents don't start till ten weeks

564
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: because there's the paperwork and the blah blah blah. So

565
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: these people just took and you know what a newborn's

566
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: like that they're up all special breeder. I don't know

567
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: who they are, but like that's great, that's crazy.

568
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: It's like the patience on those people, and yeah, like

569
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: and for what do you imagine how hard it would be

570
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: after because you grow an attachment and you get to

571
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: know the people are like, oh, really gratitude they actually understand,

572
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: like they thy all the gratitude.

573
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: We say instagram much, but they get it. Yeah, we're

574
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: just like I'm so grateful. Yeah really not. Mum and

575
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: dad get approved, like they go, yep, we've signed off

576
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: your approved for a child, so hopefully you get one.

577
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: Two years go past, they don't hear anything, and they

578
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: get a call on the Thursday, yeah he's good to

579
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: pick up tomorrow and their mum goes, I.

580
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: Can't do tuesdays.

581
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I recall the bottom who is this and goes, Okay,

582
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: I guess we let's go shopping and buy some stuff.

583
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: And then mum was a school teacher, and so she goes, Okay,

584
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: mister principal, I'm going to need maternity leave and oh congratulations.

585
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: When she's like, I'm leaving right now. Oh my god.

586
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: So the principal goes in apparently like mum wasn't there,

587
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: but goes into the staff meeting the next day and

588
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: goes off Mandy duns having maternity and everyone goes, she

589
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: was he to down she was not pregnant. Yeah, and

590
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: so just like and I actually met a teacher that

591
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: was like at that school when at the time. Yeah,

592
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: because when I first talked about adoption, the luck popped

593
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: off online and so there's a lot of people going,

594
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: oh and she was like I didn't actually get it

595
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: until watching this video thirty years later because she just

596
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: disappeared one day everyone when pregnant. We all went okay,

597
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, what about covering up here? Yeah kind of yeah.

598
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: And so they get this call and have you got

599
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: a cop nut? Have you got stuff nut? What do

600
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: they eat? I don't know. He's ten am tomorrow, Doug.

601
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: So then I like that style. Yeah, it's crazy to

602
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: did they give you.

603
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Like, now that you're older, have they given you any

604
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: sort of like what it was like for them you

605
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: transitioning into the house and what that.

606
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 1: Moment was like. Well, I think it was just the

607
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: because as you guys know, it like the pregnancy is

608
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: what nine months, but I can feel like five years,

609
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: like the anticipation you just by the end. I mean,

610
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: we didn't have to carry the child's so I can

611
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: only imagine how hard it is for the mums. But

612
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: it gets to that point, not thirty five weeks past.

613
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: We just like, can this kid just turn? I'm so

614
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: looking forward to meeting them. My wife's really uncomfortable. Yeah,

615
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: and he's here tomorrow. Like it's just I think it

616
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: was just the shock of like, oh, we've wanted this

617
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: for so long and we didn't have much of a

618
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: build up. It just happened nice that.

619
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: Way though as well.

620
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, you're just like adapt.

621
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: What's it like growing up for yourself? Like what's your

622
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: perception of being put up for adoption? Did that weigh

623
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: on you in a heavy way or was it just

624
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: the norm? And it didn't really?

625
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: Nah, because my birth mum wrote a letter that was

626
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: like dear Ryan, when you're old enough to understand sort

627
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: of thing. And she was from like a really rough area.

628
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: It was one of eight kids, and the eight kids

629
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: shared like three single beds, like it was a rough

630
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: and rough area, drugs crime, and she was like adamant

631
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that she wasn't going to like pass that on to

632
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: the next generation. So she was actually twenty eight when

633
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: she gave birth to me, and I grew up just

634
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: assuming probably like it's probably terrible to say, but I

635
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: just like to assume she was like seventeen or you know, yeah, yeah,

636
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: But now she was twenty eight and she was going

637
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: to night school, and she was like, I'm going to

638
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: better myself and if I have a family, they're not

639
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: going to be born into this community. They're not going

640
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: to have the childhood I had. And she was just

641
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: so adamant that, like, no, my child, I don't want

642
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: the life that I had for my child. So she

643
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: gets accidentally pregnant and she's just like this is the

644
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: kind of stuff people from here do. They get accidentally

645
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: pregnant and they were going to change the world, and

646
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: well now we just struggle on and that just happens

647
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 1: again and again, and she was just so determined that

648
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: that was not going to be the case. And so

649
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: she was also living in a sharehouse, and she was

650
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: just more than others, just like a child needs two parents.

651
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: And she didn't know my birth father, and like they

652
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: sort of that one time, and she was like, well,

653
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: this is not for me. And I think also by

654
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the time she if you realize, like when you're trying,

655
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you're kind of checking. She didn't know she was pregnant

656
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: until way into it, and I think it was like

657
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: past the point of no return. Yeah, and so she

658
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: was like, well, this kid's gonna have to be born.

659
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't want them growing up in there. And so

660
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: I always go, oh, you've done me this huge favor.

661
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like how could you do this to me?

662
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: I was always like thank you for doing that for me,

663
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: And so I was never like, never once was I

664
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? And it was like, actually the opposite,

665
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Like she felt a bit guilty afterwards, and a lot

666
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: of birth mums feel guilt, And the only reason I

667
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: wanted to meet her really was just go like, you

668
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: don't need to feel guilty, Like all good, I've like

669
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: hit the jackpot over here with my family, Like, I

670
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: hope you're go and marry someone, have a family of

671
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: your own and kind of forget about me and the

672
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: nicest way possible. Do you remember when you got that letter? Yeah,

673
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: well again, I was in the drawer always, but I

674
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: wasn't old enough to read it, and I'm not actually

675
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: very good at reading still, so it actually a few

676
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: more years the name, but I've still got it. It's

677
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: like a yellow booklet and it's a little ribbon and

678
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: it's like dear Ryan. It's called Ryan's Story, and they

679
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of said, yeah, you know, my brothers are this tall,

680
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: and we back for Collingwood and all this stuff and

681
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, and it was it was pretty nice.

682
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: And then she kind of explained like the circumstances, and

683
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: I think when you kind of hear that side of

684
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: the story, you kind of go, oh, like it's actually

685
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: quite selfless. It's not like, yeah, she couldn't be bothered

686
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: or she did the calling off period, but the final

687
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: like not that we need any evidence, but like, in

688
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: terms of being selfless, I actually had surgery when I

689
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: was three days old on my hip.

690
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Hip's no good man, Yeah, Hip's no good.

691
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I wonder the same or something. Is that a hip

692
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: hernia or not. I don't know. But I came out

693
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: of the surgery and they're like, oh, like the baby's

694
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: going to be fine, but like he's going to be sore,

695
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: and so he just like needs lots of hugs and

696
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: cuddles from his family and the nurses like, well, he

697
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: doesn't have family yet. So she actually, my birth mother

698
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: really came back to the hospital like after doing the

699
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: traumatic like believing she like came back and just like

700
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: sat in the chair for two days just to like

701
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of hold me while I was a bit sore

702
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: and tender. And so you're going to go, oh, like

703
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: she cared and she was doing the right thing, and

704
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: there's no like and I'm like, yeah, you can't be

705
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: angry something. It's amazing. Yeah, like the selflessness to come back.

706
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially after that, I can't imagine, like I can't

707
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: imagine giving up one of my children.

708
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Well yeah, like I always thought that would be really tough,

709
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: but I just remember the first hour with Mabel, so

710
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Bridge had a few complications and was off in the theater.

711
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: So it's just like the two of us and the

712
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: thought of like going, oh, I love you, and like

713
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be selfless or brave enough, like there'd

714
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: be no circumstance, like I just couldn't. Yeah, And I

715
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: think when Mabel was born, I was just like, well,

716
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: it's sort of like the respect I had for my

717
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: birth mother Julie, like ten x almost. Yeah, it's crazy.

718
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: As an adult, you then went on the quest to

719
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: then find your parents. You then got in contact with

720
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: your dad, who was in the UK. You then flew

721
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: over to meet him. How much were you hoping for

722
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: a long term relationship and how much were you happy

723
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: for it just to be like a like hey, putting

724
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: a face to a name.

725
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I did the ancestry DNA test trying to

726
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: find because I never really considered my birth father because

727
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: I just knew he was like backpacking and it was

728
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: what he didn't even know I existed, so there wasn't

729
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: any He didn't make decisions on my behalf. So I

730
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: do this ancestry DNA test hoping to find my birth mother, Julie,

731
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: who lives in Melbourne and as it turns out, live

732
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: three streets from my best mate and just up the

733
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: road and worked at a place that I've been to

734
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: like like crazy, so there's a chance you might have encountered.

735
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: I actually would be like, it's hard to believe I

736
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. So when she she I was gonna say,

737
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't have dor like she's she's now ass away so

738
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: we won't matter. But she worked at Vinnie's in Sydney

739
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Road in Brunswick. Wow. And so I've been to that

740
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: vinnie so many times because we love getting a bargain

741
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: and got all the dress up paid, so we would

742
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: actually go there all the time. And so she volunteered

743
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: there and stuff for ages and I'm like, there's no

744
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: way I didn't run into it. But so trying to

745
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: find her down the street, no chance at all. But

746
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: we found some random guy in London, which turned out

747
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to be easier to find, which is just insane. Yeah,

748
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: so we did the ancestry gena test and then I

749
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: write this letter to Joel and said like I didn't say,

750
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: like I think you're my father. I kind of went.

751
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: I was stopted they don't know the father my birthda.

752
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: His name is Julie. This was my birthday. I think

753
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: you worked in Melbourne nine months before that for a

754
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: little bit. You know I'm in London next, like, you know,

755
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: if you want to grab a coffee by kind because

756
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put the pressure on and make

757
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: it feel weird. But I also was like, I'm not

758
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: after an explanation. You don't know me anything, And I

759
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: think I was more of a like a curiosity and

760
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: just like because at the time of life, I've never

761
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: met anyone in my biological family. So if we ever beer,

762
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: that'd be like the craziest thing that they ever do.

763
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: So I send this letter. He's like away for the weekend,

764
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: and the neighbor the post. He goes, oh, they away,

765
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: give the letter to the neighbor, and the neighbor goes, yeah,

766
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: cool mate, and just chucks it in the draw And

767
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: so a month later he's looking for an old water

768
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: bill opens the drawer and goes, oh, fuck, I got

769
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: that letter for Joe. Oh my god. Yeah, And then

770
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: so like it was almost that close to not meeting him.

771
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: Also because you know, neighbor and this is like such

772
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: a tight art thing that I paid for, Like what's

773
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: that extra thing you can pay where it like tracks it.

774
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it's like eight dollars a pen. It's

775
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: a peel Off thing. Yeah, but if it's for twelve dollars,

776
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: we'll track it. And I was like great, and I

777
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: was like I paid an extra four fucking dollars. And

778
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: so then like he sends me an email and goes, yeah,

779
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: like I think that's me. I hear what you're saying, Like,

780
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: let's do a proper test and see. So I did

781
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: a few swabs and he did the same, and I

782
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: sent it this place in London and then he emailed

783
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: me saying, yeah, it's a match. And then that email

784
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: went to my jump folder for like a week, and

785
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: then I got it and then I was like yeah.

786
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm in London, shoul we catch

787
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: up and went over there and had a coffee and

788
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: we had a coffee and we met at ten am

789
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: and we're still at the cafe four like six hours later.

790
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Just like if you were also in the cafe, you

791
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, these are like two old mates

792
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: catching up like you wouldn't.

793
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

794
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: It was that sort of natural.

795
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: And you're still stay in contact now. Yeah.

796
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've been So I've been to London and

797
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: hung out with them three times. Tony we met, we're

798
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: in London, last year, and so they oh, you know,

799
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: we'll go out for dinner here, and then at the

800
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: end of dinner, Joel my birth other goes, I'll pay

801
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: for us, and Tony goes, well you missed the first

802
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: thirty years, and Joel's wife just goes, my god. And

803
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Joel did find that funny after the feet like he

804
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: was like, she's joking. Oh, yeah, it's a joke. But yes,

805
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: I've been to London three times there originally from the US.

806
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: So I've done a Thanksgiving in New Orleans, Thanksgiving in Austin,

807
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: and then in a month, I'm going to Thanksgiving in

808
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I think we're going to Carbo and I'll go back

809
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: to Austin for a bit.

810
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: So.

811
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: So he's got two sons who are like my half brothers.

812
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: One of them looks like exactly like I did before

813
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I got You guys have the.

814
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: Same you said, and I didn't.

815
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: Look the same eyes. We do have the same eyes. Yeah,

816
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you've got blue eyes and like yeah, yeah,

817
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: we like you both got harry chest and like yeah,

818
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: you guys both got small dicks, and yeah, that was

819
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: very crazy. But we like in compared in my family,

820
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: like my mum teacher, dad Trady, all aunties, teachers, nurses, trades,

821
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: and I studied finance, which was a bit like like,

822
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: no one's really into that. Birth father finance, two brothers

823
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: finance account and his brother stockbroker. Like I think you

824
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: might have got it from there, but like that was

825
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: all these crazy se people got bad hips.

826
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 2: See this scar.

827
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have had a shoulder reconstruction.

828
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: My birth father just taking his shirt off. Yeah, anyone's wondering.

829
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: Your pants off? Birth father, same scar, same surgery from

830
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: when he played like fort back in the day. So

831
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: there's all these like little quirky things and we just

832
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: find o how interesting.

833
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: So when you were trying to have a kid talk

834
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: about six years, Yeah, were you and Bridge ever considering adopting.

835
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but because I there's a lot of kids born

836
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: into like unfortunate circums answers and even still you know

837
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: that mums passed away, dad's in jail, like there's people

838
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: that are really stuck. And so I think I've always

839
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: felt like it was a way of like passing it

840
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: on or it was a genuine option, and Bridge was

841
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: like open to it, but it was like, oh, but

842
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: I'd still like to have our her own child Becau.

843
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: She's a real like Bridge had a great career, but

844
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: even in the heights of what she was doing in

845
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: white making, she was like, I want to be a mum.

846
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I want to have a garden with veggies and make food.

847
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: And she's just like a real like soult of the earth,

848
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Like she's not Italian, but like she's an old Italian

849
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: Honnor and so that's what she really wanted and that

850
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: was really important, and so I think but we did

851
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: talk about it and stuff. But when I was in

852
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: Western Australia, I kind of was thinking about adoption and

853
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I kind of really understood the concept of it was

854
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: only starting to click that some couples just couldn't conceive

855
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: because you know, in high school you go to health

856
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: class and they're like, if you look at a girl

857
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: at a party pregnant and then it's so crazy that

858
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: you get to thirty and you go, it's actually really

859
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: fucking hard to get pregnant, which is crazy. So I

860
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: was like I kind of had this like I know

861
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: what I was going through, but I had this like

862
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: I can understand that, and I think I want to

863
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: like donate sperm is my way of like paying it

864
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: forward a little bit, and so there was this website

865
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: in Perth, and imagine what's had to have taken place

866
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: previously for this to be written on the website. Okay,

867
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: there's two women who are looking for a donor. You

868
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: don't get to have sex with the girls, That's what

869
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: it's says. And I was like, well, obviously, and don't

870
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: come on your computer because it doesn't work. I was like, yeah,

871
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: obviously they need a mail for that, and so I

872
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: was like and then I was like, how many guys

873
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: have messaged for them to.

874
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: Need to expectations rule number one?

875
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And then I think that's when I started.

876
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't with like a new bridget at the time,

877
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: but we went like together, and then as we came together,

878
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: she was like, I really respect that, but I'd also

879
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: like to have our own first. Also, were about to

880
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: bust open its scandal. Can you hear someone at the door?

881
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: I've been inspired by you, by the way from a fire.

882
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: My name is right.

883
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 4: He's a guest.

884
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: I guess guess yeah, you are.

885
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: What he brought.

886
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: Guess what he brought on a plane all the way here?

887
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Have one guess? Jeez? Close type of cheese platter, but

888
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: it has it was from Melbourne.

889
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: Eyes light up.

890
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've been in inspiration with your traveling food

891
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: hydriinks over the years, So thank you.

892
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: And I'm so sorry mom, you'll have to get out

893
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: of the don't have to defend yourself. It's okay. I'm

894
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: so sorry. We'll have to banish. So then for six years?

895
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: What is that like? This is coming from Ashley myself.

896
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: We both were very fortunate and we've got our wives

897
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: pregnant quickly. But what's it like for yourself having to

898
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: go through that six year wait?

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: Hoping hoping. Yeah. We also move for work a few times,

900
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: so we were in Canberra, then we moved to Perth

901
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: and then we moved back. But like when you're moving

902
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: across the country, you start you're doing the like, oh, well,

903
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: hang on, do we just take a break real quick

904
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: because if we're about to move, and then the support

905
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: like my mum's not there to and so you're kind

906
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: of like stopping and starting and it's not really working.

907
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: And then you kind of because Bridge's career was going

908
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: really well and radio is going alright for me, we're like, oh,

909
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: things are going really well. Maybe it's not the worst

910
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: thing if like there wasn't that urgency right and start,

911
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: and so you kind of just assume, oh, you know,

912
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: not this month, maybe next month, and then oh, we're

913
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: moving at the end of the year. We'll wait till then.

914
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: And then Bridget gets to that age where she is

915
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: a geriatric, which is written on all the forms. What Yeah,

916
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: a geriatric? What when you're over thirty five? All of

917
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the forms they did. Laura cop that as well.

918
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah she was because we were third just

919
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: thirty nine.

920
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: Now did I use that to mock people older than me? Yeah,

921
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: so now I'm joking you are. Yeah, yeah, so I

922
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: need to change that. But even seeing that word on

923
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: forms is just so like yeah, but and yeah. Then

924
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: we did IVF. Few rounds didn't quite work. And it

925
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: was also during lockdown, which just made like logistically really

926
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: because we're in Melbourne as well by this stage you

927
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: couldn't really go anywhere, you couldn't do anything. When I

928
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: had to give a sperm sample, I wasn't allowed into

929
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: the hospital. Do it out the front. Well, They're like,

930
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: you bring it in from out the front. Well, they

931
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: actually because I was like off in the car park,

932
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: you've got forty minutes from the time when you produce

933
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: to when you have to because less then it goes

934
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: cold or whatever and you can't do it there. So

935
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: you start thinking, like, am I jerking about the front?

936
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: What am I doing? I didn't have a car at

937
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: the time, so I actually, well, I got an uber

938
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: and I had the cup in my jacket. You yeah,

939
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: And so I was.

940
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: Hang on a second, so have you have you pre

941
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: booked the uber or Okay?

942
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, let me through which apps open at which time?

943
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: So I'm on air at Kiss on the radio at nine.

944
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: My start on air and it's just me the solo

945
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: shift at nine at.

946
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: Then yeah, coming up, here's me.

947
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: I'm not here.

948
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: The clinic opens at eight and I'm on air at nine.

949
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: So I'm like, there's this sort of a small window

950
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: to get it done. And so Tony Lodge goes, I

951
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: know what I'll do. I'll text Ryan every two minutes

952
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: from seven forty to eight o'clock and just she's like

953
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: taking selfies and smiling. She's like does this help? Does

954
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: this help? I'm made it real awkward because she was

955
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: like because I told him, like, I'm gonna have to

956
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: run into there, I do that and come back and

957
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: she's like, okay. So then I get an Uber and

958
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: I kind of don't hate the Uber driver of this

959
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: because if you're an Uber driver and this person goes,

960
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: can we get to the hospital as soon as possible?

961
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: He goes, is everything okay? You know, like, is everything fine?

962
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: I go it's actually fine? And he goes which entrance

963
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: and I go the one here and he goes, oh,

964
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: what's going on? And he's asking all these questions.

965
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: And I'm like, and You've got a bucket of come

966
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 2: on his shirt.

967
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: I've got a bucket of com fully a car. There's

968
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: perspiration on my forehead still, and I'm like, normally confident,

969
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: is I guess? But like, I'm so sheepish in this moment.

970
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: I'm just so embarrassed and awkward. And also I have

971
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: to rock up to reception. Oh where do I put

972
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: the you know? So I'm just so so you're in

973
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: an uber with a bucket of cum.

974
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: And so who record? How much was it?

975
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: How many meals well do they need? Or how many

976
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: in the cup? I tell you what's really like humbling.

977
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: He's like, when I think they should make the cup

978
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: was so wide that it doesn't fill up and you

979
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: just feel like, is that all love got to?

980
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: It's a thin pancake.

981
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: I want to start a family, and this is what

982
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, I need a cash proent net. Yeah, it's

983
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: just so awkward. And then you walk in there and

984
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why this makes it worse, but the

985
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: girl behind the counter is the hottest girl you've ever

986
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: seen in your and you just go, of course it is.

987
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: And it's just so awkward. And I told the uber driver,

988
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to get back to kiss thread.

989
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: Can you wait out the front? And he's like, how

990
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: long are you going to be? And then I think

991
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: I think he's realized, oh it's a sperm donation place,

992
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know it's in my pocket. So when

993
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I go, wait right here, I'm not going to be long,

994
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: He's like, am I waiting for this guy to go?

995
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: I've just like kept the car running out the front,

996
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: keep the Yeah. I talked about this on our podcast

997
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: and because people in Melbourne were like, oh, same, but

998
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: we don't live within forty minutes. So this lady, she's

999
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: from Melton, which is probably forty minutes away, and so

1000
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: she was driving the car and her husband was jerking

1001
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: in the in the backseat coming down the Western Highway.

1002
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: And now if you heard someone jerking off and you

1003
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: heard faster, faster, slower, slower, what are you expecting the

1004
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: accelerator correct, Because he's like, there's a person right next

1005
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: to me, So he's like, can you just speed up

1006
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: a little bit so they're not right there? I not

1007
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: slow down his poot. He's trying to concentrate on that

1008
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: and do it.

1009
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: And then is that a legal Can you masturbate in

1010
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: the car? No, you can't.

1011
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: If you're a passenger, you can.

1012
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: You're still you're a public you're in a car, it's

1013
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: a private vehicle.

1014
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: It's a private vehicle.

1015
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 3: If you're in a taxi, you probably can't do that. Okay,

1016
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: let's get a list of wherein where you can.

1017
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: If anyone's listening who works in law police.

1018
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: That's your personal computer, Jess, don't google it, yeah, because

1019
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: your algorithm will be fucked. But yeah, fun times I

1020
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: buy all really And then another time I did get

1021
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: to go in. But I think that's worse because the

1022
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: there is never less eye contact than when you're in

1023
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: the waiting room. I thought you're gonna say you do

1024
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: it in front of them, but there's seven other guys

1025
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: in the waiting room and you're just sitting their way

1026
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: and you all know watching. Yeah, and then you finish

1027
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: and you go sit back down and there sort.

1028
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Of everyone's grinning.

1029
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: He's the sweatiest. It's really awkward. But yeah, I think

1030
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: COVID made it weird. Bridget getting older like sort of

1031
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: put the pressure on a little bit. And then the

1032
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: strangest thing because like with you do you do a

1033
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: pregnancy test with? Is that how you guys found out?

1034
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, the partner comes out from the bathroom with

1035
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: the stick.

1036
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: And I think one of the times Laura had some.

1037
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: This reminds me of that story. I was like, we

1038
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: thought we'd dip it in the toilet.

1039
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1040
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: We were like they like just win the toilet and like,

1041
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: like you do like stirring some punch.

1042
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: That's a fair question, Like you idiots. They should teach

1043
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: that in school. But we get told, oh, yeah, will

1044
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: call you at two forty seven on Tuesday or you know,

1045
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: just or we get an email because we tried a

1046
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: few times once, wasn't it. It's just the least romantic.

1047
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a beautiful moment. Check your Gmail.

1048
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's just junk. Yeah, and even we found

1049
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: out the gender from an email. Oh wow. And it's

1050
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: really like because you know, it's going to be this

1051
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: moment and we're going to embrace and it's going to

1052
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: be huge in we're life.

1053
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: What's the dialogue? How are they writing these emails?

1054
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Is it like just a big girl? Yeah, bridge got it.

1055
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: It's actually a very unromantic. It's very scientific. Oh, here's

1056
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: the print out of your DNA and the numbers and

1057
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: the this and the that, and the blood says this,

1058
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: and the blood set and it's almost like if the

1059
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: blood level of this test is above that, it means

1060
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: you're pregnant. But like you're getting a print out of

1061
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: shit that's all foreign. Like like when I.

1062
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Got my OP which is what we get when we

1063
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 2: finish school, and it's number between one and twenty five.

1064
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: Ryan's just coming up along.

1065
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: But we thought of your school. Yeah, it's like one.

1066
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: I remember like trying to scan the letter, trying to

1067
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: find out tell me.

1068
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: What it is. Yeah, the letter itself was a test. Yeah,

1069
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: you know what did you get?

1070
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: I got like a twenty one out of the legend.

1071
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Is that good? Is that good.

1072
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: Twenty five is the worst.

1073
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: One of you. Here I am sitting next to a

1074
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: fucking genius. Where'd you go to school? Which time? High school?

1075
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: The first time? Some polls? So would you get an

1076
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Nenter score or you're out of twenty five?

1077
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: No?

1078
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: No, I left school on was fifteen. It never made

1079
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: it a score. Is twenty one more than you?

1080
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: Yep?

1081
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. Look I got life lessons? So true.

1082
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: So what was it like then, jumping into the deep

1083
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: end of parenthood? You think to you swim?

1084
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: I think I did a pretty good job at the

1085
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: start Bridge bridges out of action for six weeks after

1086
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: the birth, and so it was just like she couldn't

1087
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: really move, butudn't do much. So I was running around

1088
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: doing a lot, doing a lot. She was still doing

1089
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: way more than me. But I kind of did the

1090
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: night shift.

1091
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 3: You can always hold over them that you can't drive

1092
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: at that time, like, well, I.

1093
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: Guess I'll love to Maybel was born just before or

1094
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Ashes cricket which was in England

1095
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: that started at ten pm every night, and so that's

1096
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: so I said, I did the night shift and this

1097
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: is like so simple, But the whole time we were

1098
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: trying to get pregnant. I was just Bridges trying to

1099
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: get pregnant or just sitting. I just kept thinking, one day,

1100
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit on the couch, I'm going to

1101
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: have our dog Broun on my legs, Mabel on my chest,

1102
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: the fire on, and just lay there and go, this.

1103
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 3: Is it, and then the cricket's on, and then you go,

1104
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: fuck that ashes a coming on.

1105
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: And so every night we had the and we just

1106
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: moved into our house, which I guess now is like

1107
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: our forever house a few months earlier, and my home

1108
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: Bridge is like, the other thing I really want is

1109
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: a bath. That's my like my thing, and I was like, great,

1110
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: I really want a fireplace and whatever the rest of

1111
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: the house is, We'll figure that out. But that was

1112
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: our thing. And so I just remember. And it wasn't

1113
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: just once, it was every night for months on end.

1114
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm laying here, you know, you know they're

1115
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: kind of cooing and just like really slinging when they're

1116
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: not screaming. Yeah, the dog who gets along really well

1117
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: with like well, nervous about that. You know, you're not

1118
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: supposed to leave a dog and a kid in the

1119
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: same room. Oh yeah, you can't separate the my dog

1120
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: and Mabel. They are best friends, that's concerning. So I'm

1121
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: sitting there bronze on my lap, Mabel's like on my chest,

1122
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: cooing the fires on, and I was just like, I've

1123
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: done it, this is this is the best. And so

1124
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: as like not as much sleep and all that stuff,

1125
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: it was just like the best. I also wasn't working

1126
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: because ton and I had like gone out on our own.

1127
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: So Tony was really like we could be flexible, Whereas

1128
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: if I had a job, like when I was working

1129
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: at Kiss, like besides jerking it that morning, it's pretty like,

1130
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: oh cool, Well you start at nine, so there's no flexibility.

1131
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know how people do breakfast radio with

1132
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: a kid. That would just be insane. But yeah, I

1133
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess I was pretty lucky with the

1134
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: flexibility if we win that action serious, I was a draw,

1135
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: but we were a champion, so we retained. That's right.

1136
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: Not to bring up the adoption thing, please again, sorry

1137
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: to Kip reminding you that's right.

1138
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm aware.

1139
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: Did that have any impact on the way that your parent.

1140
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: A little bit? I think? I so before that, the

1141
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: one thing that's like affected my life is because my

1142
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: birthma made a huge sacrifice for me. I felt like

1143
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure to like have a good life

1144
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: whatever that means to kind of like, well, you made

1145
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: this sacrifice for me. The least I can do is

1146
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: like do a really good job of it. And so

1147
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: I kind of felt pressure for that. And so a

1148
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: big word for me is like pride, Like I want

1149
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: to do stuff I'm proud of. When I'm old, I

1150
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: want to look back and think, oh, I'm proud of

1151
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: the things I've done. And then I hope my birth

1152
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: mum can be proud of the things I've achieved. And

1153
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: so that's like a big thing for me. And so

1154
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: ye make me cry. Yeah. But so with Mabel, I

1155
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: tell her every day like how proud I am. But

1156
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: I actually, you know, like it's going to lose meaning,

1157
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: like as like people think, oh that one day Dad

1158
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: sat me down and said, I'm so proud of you, sir.

1159
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: But I say it all the time, like five times

1160
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: a day. And so by the time she's fifteen, should

1161
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: have look but I like really take like you take

1162
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: bright in it. I take pride in telling her how

1163
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: proud I am when even when it's really small, i'ms are,

1164
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm really proud, that was really old, that was really kind.

1165
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: You're sharing your toys that I'm really proud of you

1166
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: for that.

1167
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: It could be your thing that you don't know that

1168
00:54:58,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: you don't know how she's going to take it in

1169
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: fifty your time, which just might be shut up and

1170
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: be like, well that's our thing.

1171
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're proud of each other, I can.

1172
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: Tell you from personal experience, you never get fed up

1173
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: or sick of hearing someone say you're doing a really

1174
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: good job, no matter who it comes from, whether it's

1175
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: my mum, whether it's law or my wife, if it's

1176
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: someone at work. As rarely says it to me, I

1177
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: say it all the time. You don't.

1178
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: I say it to my screen about you a fair

1179
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: bit ash thank you. Should put that in the DMS moment,

1180
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: I think, is.

1181
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: It is something you can say it until you're black

1182
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: and doing the face, and I think there is absolutely

1183
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: no I mean psychologists, especially.

1184
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 7: Like I mean when when Maybe gets a little bit

1185
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 7: older and she's up and running around and she's starting

1186
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 7: to establish hobbies, and then she does really good, like

1187
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 7: I know with Oscar when he does something and you

1188
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 7: can see right on his face.

1189
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Yea, Like I without having to even say, I just

1190
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: feel it, you know what I mean. And I know

1191
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: he can feel that. I can feel it too. Yeah,

1192
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: what's always doing at the moment, that's like, gives you

1193
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: a real life job like ju jitsu. Right, Oh, that's

1194
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: sick shit.

1195
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: Out of other kids.

1196
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: And he's an absolute weapon and he doesn't know it.

1197
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: But when when when push comes to shovel the time

1198
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 3: to fight another kid, the other kids shipping himself because

1199
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: I was taken down like a bag.

1200
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, as a joke, I tried to grab him,

1201
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: he tried to kidnap him.

1202
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: I tried to grab him, and the kid fucking fly

1203
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 4: kicked me in the.

1204
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: Face and I was like, and then he dude a

1205
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: trade six year people up. Yeah, yeah, he's like a

1206
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: spider monkey. But when he when he has that good

1207
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: class and he's.

1208
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: Like he's like a fucking whale on two kids in

1209
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: their dad, I'm like, yeah, I'm proud of that, and

1210
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: that's always going to be there because he'll probably move

1211
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: on from that and find a new hobby.

1212
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Or when he catches the foot.

1213
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: If you feel it, especially like if you you've got

1214
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: your kid and your kids, Like if dad's proud of me,

1215
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm proud of me.

1216
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: One thing I've liked so me maybole do swimming lessons

1217
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: at the moment, that's our on a Saturday morning with

1218
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: do swimming lessons and we go get a coffee. But

1219
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: one line that I like to use because I don't

1220
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: want to also be like the parent that like we've

1221
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: all seen those really crazy overbearing especially fathers that are

1222
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: like you have to win some love it, yeah, just

1223
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: saying like I love watching you do that, like they

1224
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: just know that I'm out. So when she gets out

1225
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: of the pool, like I just love seeing you swimming.

1226
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: It like sometimes she'll have a really good lesson and

1227
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you know she's a bit shy and doesn't work,

1228
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: but I just I love seeing you and she just goes, oh,

1229
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: dad loves seeing me have a go yeah, and even

1230
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: her hearing Dad loves seeing you do that, Like you

1231
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: can kind of see it in her go oh great totally.

1232
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: And so when she gets older for sport and stuff,

1233
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to remind myself, like I love watching

1234
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: you do that, is that it might be like I'm

1235
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: glad you won or if you lost, you shouldn't have

1236
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: done this. It's like, no, I just love watching your play.

1237
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miley's trying to learn to write a black at

1238
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: the moment and she's absolutely useless. Like the moment you

1239
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: let go, she falls over instantly. That's like April and

1240
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: she was like, Dad do I's sorry, that's your wife.

1241
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: She's like, did I do good? And I said, honey,

1242
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: You're doing amazing. That's the best I've ever seen. Wasn't

1243
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: but she was like she was so happy to hear

1244
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: you say that.

1245
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: But she like having fun trying and falling over and stuff. Yeah, yea, yeah,

1246
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then I just love saying you having

1247
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: fun out here total, you know, and then you don't

1248
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: have to lie. That's true. Yeah.

1249
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: When Mabel is older and she's no longer living with you,

1250
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: what is the one thing you'd want her to remember

1251
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: about the house she grew up in.

1252
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: That's a great question, a simple question that I've never

1253
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: thought of. Well, Like I said, Bridget's like a real

1254
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: nono type, like we've got we've got this huge veggie garden,

1255
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: We're going to get chickens. Mabel has this Do you

1256
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: guys have that little thing at the bench where they

1257
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: stand at the kitchen bench and like.

1258
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: I know, I never got done, but they're so good.

1259
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: I throw it out annoyed out of me. It's so good.

1260
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: But like Mabel loves helping, like in the kitchen. And

1261
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: I feel like if she grows up and knows that, like, oh,

1262
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: Mum and dad love each other. I love me and

1263
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: we're always like cooking food, we're in the garden. It's

1264
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: just like a really calm, peaceful, healthy kind of player.

1265
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, like that might seem like overly simplistic,

1266
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: but like I just feel like if she grows up

1267
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: and has like a pretty wholesome because you know, you're

1268
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: always fighting the screens and it's a crazy word out there,

1269
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: but I think if she remembers home, it's like we

1270
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: always had like really great food and you know, we

1271
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 1: always hung out together. And I always make a point

1272
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: of being like Maybel, who does dad love And she'll go,

1273
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: you dad loves mart. I'm just really making sure that

1274
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: she knows that mom and dad love each other. Yeah,

1275
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: So I feel like if she's like, oh, yeah, like

1276
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: if she think, what was your dad, Like, Oh, he

1277
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: just loved mom so much and he just loved me

1278
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: like that would be really cool if that was what

1279
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: she remembers.

1280
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: All memory stuff. Yeah, I did have one more question,

1281
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: which I don't know if this is going to make sense,

1282
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: but someone submitted this on our Instagram. Yeah I think

1283
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, remember it correctly. They want to know what.

1284
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Sauce you like? What sauce?

1285
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Does that make any sense at all? Okay, but

1286
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: someone just said, well.

1287
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Horn Day sauce is the greatest sauce in the world.

1288
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: Can you just double check the two doting dads.

1289
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: And she's obviously got a lot of quality comments and

1290
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: questions coming through the box. It could be Tony's famous,

1291
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: but maybe it's the besh of male sauce.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to be like, oh, like

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Speaker 2: this is such a like in joy Okay.

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Speaker 1: Ship was that Donna again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know. And to finish this chat, smoky.

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Speaker 2: Barbecue, Ryan, It's been a pleasure, take a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: And that lasagna was out of the fridge for a while,

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Speaker 1: so I'll just leave that up to you to decide

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Speaker 1: what I'm not going.

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Speaker 4: To get poisoning.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know either way.

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Speaker 1: If you could send that tray back next time. We

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Speaker 1: thank you mate, ash. Look.

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Speaker 2: At the time of recording this outro, I will admit

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Speaker 2: that I have eaten the lasagna. It fed the family,

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Speaker 2: my children. My kids don't like lasagna. That was wrong,

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Speaker 2: so I tried to give it to the kids. They

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Speaker 2: weren't too keen. Laura did have it on the first

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Speaker 2: night of it being cooked. She was a little bit

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Speaker 2: wary about how long it would be safe to eat,

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Speaker 2: considering that it traveled into state unfrozen on an airplane.

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Speaker 2: It was a long time in transit, not being refrigerated,

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Speaker 2: so she was like, look, after night one, I'm out.

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Speaker 2: I continued to eat the lasagna for three or four

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Speaker 2: days until Laura was like, I'm throwing that fucking thing out.

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Speaker 1: Where's the dish? She threw that out too.

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Speaker 2: I've kept the dish. My mum was like, should we

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Speaker 2: return it, post it back. I'm like, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: could just order one off Amazon and it'd be the

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Speaker 2: same price as what it costs to send it to Melbourne.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you wrap it in newspaper, put it in

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Speaker 3: a nice box, and send it back.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, mother, should.

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Speaker 1: We clean it first?

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Speaker 2: Nah? But if you enjoyed this episode as much as

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed dolasagna. Please give us a review. That's all

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say.

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Speaker 3: Five stars, Share with a friend if you like, or

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Speaker 3: you can join us on socials and.

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Speaker 2: Two Doting Dads on Instagram TikTok. There is a Facebook

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Speaker 2: group as well. Goodbye, Goodbye, farewell, God bless and, as

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Speaker 2: the people who make Lasagnas would say, adios. Two Doting

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Speaker 2: Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia

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Speaker 2: and the connections to land, see and community.

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Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Island

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Speaker 3: the people's today