1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Already, and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 3: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: the fourth of July. I'm Sam Kazlowski. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm Billy fit Simon's and I'm definitely not cool enough 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: to be doing this podcast. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Hey, come on, we haven't even gotten into it yet, 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: but yes, as I find out, that's exactly what's happening, Billy. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: What's cooler than being cool? No, it's not ice cold? 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: Is it telling bad Joe? Something like that? But we 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: do know how to answer that question a little bit 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: better now than we did a couple of months ago, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 3: thanks to some fascinating new research that's basically cracked the 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: code on what makes someone cool. So today we're going 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: to take you through what scientists learned after examining almost 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: six thousand people across thirteen countries as they endeavored to 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: figure out the difference between being cool and being good 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: and then not the same thing. 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: Sam, I think we should say from the outset that 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: this isn't the typical kind of TDA explainer. But it 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: is a Friday, and it has been two weeks or 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: even more of a pretty heavy news cycle. And so 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: we thought it's a perfect time to do something a 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: little bit different. 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: And in terms of you know, the thoughts that we 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 3: always go through is who can explain this the best 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: because they know the most about the topic. So sensibly 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: was that it should be me explaining the cool factor. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: And I hope that arrogance is right up there with 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: what makes someone cool not too far away. Okay, So 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: before we get into what this study found, do you 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: want to walk us through how they actually the scientists 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: who did this, How did they actually go about determining 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: what makes someone cool or not? Because it's such an 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: intangible or subjective thing to assess. 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: You would think, so they've managed to really boil it down. 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 3: So their researchers from Chile and the US, and they 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: surveyed almost six thousand people across thirteen countries, including Australia. 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: As they didn't ask people to rate celebrities or influences, 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: that was my first thought was who are the coolest 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: people you know? Instead, they asked them to think of 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: someone they personally knew who was either cool, not cool, 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: good or not good. Then they rated that person on 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: fifteen different personality traits and values using psychology scales that 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: are already in use, and they've kind of brought all 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: of that data together to make a recipe for cool. 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. Did they find that different cultures had 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: different ideas of what makes someone cool? 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, even you and I have different ideas about 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: what makes someone cool. Because you said the word arrogant before, 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: I really don't quite understand why you said that. Look, 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: the research is exactly expected there to be this massive 53 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: cultural and global difference, and that's why they deliberately chose 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: countries from six different continents with really different cultural values. 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: So they picked some countries that they described as having individual, 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: dualistic cultures, like Australia and the US, versus what they 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: described as more collective cultures like China and South Korea. 58 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: Can you explain that more, because I would say that 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: Australia and the US I don't know if I would 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: describe them as individual cultures. 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: Well, the basic rule that they've used here is whether 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: it's a highly capitalist society and everybody's kind of pursuing 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: success individually and trying to make as much money as 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: they can and get far ahead. I see. 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: So that's Australia and US exactly or you've got cultures 66 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: that have more kind of communist or socialist structures in government, 67 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: different ways that they structure their taxation systems or schools 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: or health, all that kind of stuff. 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: But the cool thing here, get it, I get it 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: is that the results across the world were almost identical. 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. So kind of found that exactly what 72 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: makes someone cool in Australia is very similar to what 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: makes someone cool in China. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Exactly. There are the same character traits of cool people 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: all over the world, and they basically boiled it down 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: to six key traits. 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: So this is the key headline. These are the six 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: traits that if you carry these traits, then you're certified cool. 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: I want everyone to think of themselves in their mind 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: and be ticking things off as I read them out. Okay, 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: be more extroverted, hedonistic, powerful, adventurous, open minded, and autonomous. 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: That's quite the mix. 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: And the researchers said the pattern was so consistent that 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: they could not find cases in which certain regions showed 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: a systematically different pattern. 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so interesting. 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: It's so interesting. 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go through each of those characteristics. 89 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so extroverted basically means that they're outgoing, they speak up, 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: they project energy and excitement. Hedonistic means they seek out 91 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: pleasure and enjoyment. They're the ones suggesting a spontaneous road 92 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: trip or trying a weird, new, different flavor of ice cream, 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: and it's kind of. 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Like they seek out that pleasure over something like pain. 95 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: And over something that they're really familiar with as well. 96 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: And powerful means they've got influence and command attention, not 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: necessarily through a position of authority or some that they 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: are given, but through their presence and through them kind 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: of pushing into rooms they're not meant to be in. 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Adventurous is about pursuing novelty and taking calculated risks. Open 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: means their receptive to new ideas and experiences. And autonomous, 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: which I think is a really big one, means they 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: do things their way without asking for permission, and they're 104 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: very self directed. So yeah, it's basically me. 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Haha, they are basically some more than others. I would say, 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: you've got the autonomous one ticked off. 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. 108 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: When I think of you, I think of autonomous. 109 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: So everyone listening, what Billy means is that I tend 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: to just go a bit rogue. 111 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: But that's okay. We're working on it, aren't we. We are, 112 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: thank you so much, okay. And then earlier you said 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: that this research wasn't only looking at what makes someone cool, 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: It also looked at what makes a good person. And 115 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: they're different, and they are different. What did What were 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: the traits of someone who is good? 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: So a good person was rated as more conforming, traditional, secure, 118 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: a warm, agreeable, caring about everyone, equally, conscientious and calm. So, 119 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 3: if you think about it, cool people are the ones 120 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: who break the rules, who seek new experiences, and who 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: challenge authority. And good people are the ones who follow 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: social norms. They're caring for other people, and they maintain stability. 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: And does this differ at all between generations? 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: It does. So baby boomers defined cool as just pure rebellion. 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Gen X was worried about working hard and playing hard, 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: and more of that adventurous streak coming through. Millennials prioritized 127 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: experiences and social consciousness, so standing up for what you 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: believe in. And gen Z has made authenticity a really 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: central aspect of coolness. So for gen Z, being genuine 130 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: about your struggles and values is actually cooler than just 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: being rebellious for the sake of being rebellious. 132 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I wonder how much of social media 133 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: and kind of how curated everyone's life became with the 134 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: rise of social media has then played into now kind 135 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: of the opposite of that authenticity. 136 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, I was really thinking about influences a lot during 137 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: that part of the research. The report didn't address influences directly, 138 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: but I'm cool, So here's my take on it. Aha, 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: social media has basically become a coolness competition in that way. 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: And if we think about those traits that the research 141 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: says make someone cool, so adventurous, autonomous, open to new experiences, 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: that's the content that does really well on social media. 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: And there's also, though, this tension because gen z really 144 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: values that authentic streak and they can spot when somebody's 145 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: trying too hard to be cool versus when somebody's really 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: embodying the traits. 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like you can. I know exactly what 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: you are talking about, but it's kind of hard to 149 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: talk about without sounding mean because it sounds mean saying 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: that you can think of someone who tries too hard 151 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: to be cool. 152 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: We feel like a bit kind of what the research 153 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: was outlining is that it needs to be a natural 154 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: streak rather than a forced effort. 155 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Where did this whole concept of being cool even come from? 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: I was so interested in this part of the research. 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: They traced the historic origins of the word cool, and 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: they traced it back to African American jazz culture in 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: the forties, where musicians used it to describe someone who was, 160 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: in their words, emotionally restrained but also rebellious and creative. 161 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: And then they say by the sixties it had spread 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: to youth counterculture across the US, and according to the research, 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: even in countries with completely different alphabets and languages like 164 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: South Korea Turkey, people use the English word for cool 165 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: and pronounce it similarly to how you say it in English. 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: So it's maintained this kind of global meaning, but also 167 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: this global language aspect of it too. Super interesting. 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: So it started in jazz clubs and it's kind of 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: gone everywhere. This might be a silly questions, No silly questions, haha, 170 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: But why do you think that we care so much 171 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: about being cool? Is it just because we equate it 172 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: to be light? 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Well, researchers say that it serves a really important social function, 174 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: and we look to cool people to be cultural innovators. 175 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: They're the ones who are pushing boundaries. They're creating new trends, 176 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: they're creating new art or music or film. They're driving 177 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: society forward. And in economies that really rely on creativity 178 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: and innovation, coolness has kind of become this status where 179 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: people who take risks and who drive change are really 180 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: rewarded for that. 181 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: So this idea that kind of innovators or risk takers 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: are more in the cool basket. 183 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, which we shouldn't take for granted. I mean, that's 184 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 3: kind of a cultural decision we've made to. 185 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: Although that's not one of the six traits. 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 3: Well it's not directly, but the idea of being adventurous, 187 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,119 Speaker 3: or being outside the norms, or being confident and outspoken, 188 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: all of those kind of lend themselves to creation of 189 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: new things. 190 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Okay, And I guess when I'm hearing this, one thing 191 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: that I'm wondering is I get what researchers are saying 192 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: is a cool person and what they are saying is 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: a good person. And I feel like they're kind of 194 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: saying that those are two different things. Yeah, but can 195 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: you be cool and good? 196 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: Well, the research says that you can be both. Some 197 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: people are both, but there's particular issues that arise when 198 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: the two conflict. And so what they mean by that 199 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: is there's this quote. It says to be seen as cool, 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: someone usually needs to be somewhat likable or admirable, which 201 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: makes them similar to good people. However, cool people often 202 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: have other traits that aren't necessarily considered good in a 203 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,479 Speaker 3: moral sense. So if you think about like an antihero 204 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: on film or TV, they're not seen as cool because 205 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: they're conventionally good. There might be, you know, somebody who's 206 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: in prison for something terrible that they've done. We think 207 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: they are really cool character, but they've committed a crime, 208 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 3: and a good person wouldn't have committed a crime because 209 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: they're conforming traditional, followed the rules. So I actually thought 210 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: about tech bros, like the really big kind of tech 211 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: leaders of our world. They're considered cool by a lot 212 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: of these metrics. I don't know if they're considered good though. Yeah. 213 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, Sam, before we go, do you have anyone 214 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: specifically who you think really embodies these characteristics? Because I 215 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: have two in mind, can you. 216 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: Go first to give me a sector? Think, who do 217 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: you think is cool? 218 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Okay, of these traits, I think my answers are really basic, just. 219 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: A wanting okay, Rihanna interesting. 220 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: I think that she's got the autonomy, she has, the powerful, 221 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: the adventurous, the hedonistic, like kind of going with pleasure, 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: you know. She I feel like she hasn't put out 223 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: music in a while. She's kind of just choosing to 224 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: kind of take a step back, although she does have 225 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: the makeup company. But anyway, I think she's very cool 226 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: based on these traits and Harry styles so basic, but they're. 227 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: Great examples I think universally known cool people. Yeah, that's fantastic. 228 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: I can't really, I guess just things keep coming back 229 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: to me. Sad just keeps coming back to I think 230 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm the coolest person I know. And you know what's 231 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: interesting about it, though, is that I'm constantly teasing the 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: office for not being cool. Who is every drop the handle? 233 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: Every day there's you know that's not cool to weare 234 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: and you're you have glasses and an asthma puffer. 235 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: Sam, You're you're making yourself the victim and that's not cool. 236 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: Maybe hah Okay, I think we will end it there. 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: You are very cool, and I'll make sure that when 238 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: we get out of the studio that everyone tells you 239 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: how cool you are. 240 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: What's cool of me? Cool? You guys listening at home? 241 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: A beautiful weekend, everybody. We're going to be back in 242 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: the afternoon with some headlines. Until then, have a great date. 243 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: Wait before we go, you haven't said anything about whether 244 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: or not you think I'm cool. 245 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: I think you're good. 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: What My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud 247 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Arunda Bungelung Kalkotin woman from gradigal Con. The Daily oz 248 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on the lands of 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: the Gadigal people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and 250 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Torrestrate island and nations. 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