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Speaker 2: I don't know about you or how many Instagram accounts
Speaker 2: you've made in your time, but what happens when you're
Speaker 2: done using them? Where is the Instagram graveyard? Do you
Speaker 2: just let one sit there? Or can someone else come
Speaker 2: and claim them? This is the question we are asking today.
Speaker 2: Am I the asshof for refusing to give my brother's
Speaker 2: girlfriend my Instagram account with thirty thousand followers that I
Speaker 2: abandon fear not Flex and Rooms will help? So, I,
Speaker 2: twenty eight female seems relevant to know have an Instagram
Speaker 2: account that I used to post my artwork on. I
Speaker 2: managed to get a little over thirty five k followers
Speaker 2: at one point, but it has since dropped down to
Speaker 2: thirty k as it has been inactive for some time.
Speaker 2: A little over three years ago, lost interest in it
Speaker 2: and stopped using it. She has about six thousand followers,
Speaker 2: but since finding out about my account, she's begged to
Speaker 2: take it over, saying if I'm not going to use
Speaker 2: it anymore, that I might as well give it to.
Speaker 3: Someone who will.
Speaker 2: I told her that I don't want to hand over
Speaker 2: in case I want to use it again, and she
Speaker 2: called me selfish and demanded that I give it to her.
Speaker 2: It's created a rift between me and my brother, as
Speaker 2: she's told him that if he can't convince me to
Speaker 2: hand over to her, that he has to choose between
Speaker 2: the two of us.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is creative writing. This isn't creative writing.
Speaker 2: Is it petty that I don't want to or should
Speaker 2: I just settle the beef and give it to her?
Speaker 3: Wow? These are twenty twenty three problems.
Speaker 2: Let it be known. In the eighties they weren't asking
Speaker 2: these questions. They definitely weren't asking them in the naughties either.
Speaker 2: These are These are modern problems that require modern solutions
Speaker 2: from modern women.
Speaker 1: Listen. I have an account that I made for Anthony
Speaker 1: Alberanese's dog, Toto Albanesi, and I probably got like two
Speaker 1: and a half thousand followers. Yeah, and I've considered selling it,
Speaker 1: not selling it, but like bequeathing it to somebody who
Speaker 1: wanted to create an online audience, but to continue, no,
Speaker 1: to create a different thing. But then I thought, these
Speaker 1: people that want Toto's dog don't want your product, and
Speaker 1: you don't want to start off on the bad foot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say there's no value in the number
Speaker 2: if you didn't curate the audience yourself realistically, Like when like,
Speaker 2: how many followers did you have when you started getting
Speaker 2: cool opportunities when you were able to, like, you know.
Speaker 1: Work at cool places, get cool gigs.
Speaker 2: Because I know that when I started working at corporation
Speaker 2: that must not be named music television company, probably five
Speaker 2: thousand followers, right, Like, I don't think I had that
Speaker 2: kind of come up where it was like the audience
Speaker 2: was here and then I got stuff. And so in
Speaker 2: this day and age where like the number isn't indicative
Speaker 2: of how good of an influencer you are a content creator,
Speaker 2: This guy who's already started her account, it's better off
Speaker 2: keeping that one because people who are there are following
Speaker 2: you for you. You go start this new account that
Speaker 2: hasn't been active in three years with thirty thousand followers
Speaker 2: that are steadily declining, it's just not worth it. I
Speaker 2: do think it's a strange dynamic that it's your brother's sorry,
Speaker 2: it's your boyfriend's sister that is like insistent that you
Speaker 2: give this to her. I don't know what kind of
Speaker 2: relationship you have.
Speaker 1: The boundaries are not boundaries.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's so strange, and it's odd that it's causing a
Speaker 2: rift between you and your boyfriend because now you both
Speaker 2: seem petty. Like he's probably like, oh my goodness, this
Speaker 2: is just weird. The girlfriend is making weird between you two.
Speaker 2: And then you have to be like, I'm not giving
Speaker 2: you this thing that I built for my art like you.
Speaker 2: I can imagine that she would feel so like petty
Speaker 2: having to say those words.
Speaker 1: It's just bizarre. I think it's made up.
Speaker 2: But if it is real, that didn't cross my mind
Speaker 2: until a couple of days ago when you said some
Speaker 2: people just make them up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, people make stuff up. I can imagine people
Speaker 1: and read it being like, Oh I'm bored. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make something up. Get some responses, get some engagement, speak
Speaker 1: to someone, stop my loneliness, cure mind.
Speaker 3: So you think it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: One of those ones, but I will say, keep you
Speaker 1: six K micro influencer is a real thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just be yourself. Really, Cata Flex and Fromes.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Flex and firms.
Speaker 4: What the frick?
Speaker 2: I have a million dollar business idea. It's my fourth
Speaker 2: one this week and I thought, why don't I just
Speaker 2: share it? You know, it can be my one good
Speaker 2: deed of philanthropy. Today, influencer PR package waste. When I
Speaker 2: scroll through my feeds, I'm seeing a trend.
Speaker 3: Over Covid.
Speaker 2: There was this huge conversation when I say covid, I'm
Speaker 2: in lockdown. It's huge conversation around the sheer, just the
Speaker 2: sheer amount of waste that comes with the influencer lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Not just the waste, the gluttony degree. He's getting sent
Speaker 2: stuff every day. They're coming in these big, obnoxious packages.
Speaker 2: It's more product. It's more product than you could ever
Speaker 2: use in your lifetime. Every single week, four different brands
Speaker 2: sending you a perfume, every single week, four different condiment
Speaker 2: companies sending you sauce. By the time you get to it,
Speaker 2: it's expired. And so there was a trend of people saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't want to receive any PR
Speaker 2: at all. But what happens when a bunch of brands
Speaker 2: are relying on influencer marketing to get their brands known,
Speaker 2: They're not going to stop sending you stuff. You can
Speaker 2: say no, but it will arrive at your house and
Speaker 2: you will have to deal with passing it on to
Speaker 2: somebody else or just you know, stockpiling waste.
Speaker 3: So then I was thinking, okay, noted.
Speaker 2: Now are coming out of lockdown, out of COVID in
Speaker 2: question in what are those quotation marks? Quotation marks bunny rabbits.
Speaker 2: And now I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: The holes come back.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing people to halls, clothing halls, beauty halls, food halls.
Speaker 2: I mean that's grocery shopping, but just like amassing stuff again.
Speaker 2: And so the conversation is starting. We have so much waste,
Speaker 2: so much waste. Who is going to start a business
Speaker 2: to get those influce luance to send out and disseminate
Speaker 2: it back to.
Speaker 3: People who might need it.
Speaker 2: Because people often say, send it to a homeless shelter.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry they don't want my foundation. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Everyone's like, okay, send it to you,
Speaker 2: a women's college, send it to this, send it to that.
Speaker 2: These are all fantastic ideas. And I could guarantee there's
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know, three hundred thousand influences in Australia
Speaker 2: right now who have an excess of stuff that could
Speaker 2: be going to somebody true.
Speaker 1: Needs it three hundred thousand influences, A.
Speaker 2: Lot of influences, not all of them are good. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of micro influencers. And I'm not just talking
Speaker 2: about traditional Like, hey everyone, you know musicians, you know, athletes, authors,
Speaker 2: they're all considered. They're all getting stuff that they don't
Speaker 2: need and don't know what to do with them. So
Speaker 2: who can now gather this stuff and get it to
Speaker 2: the hands of people who need them, almost like a
Speaker 2: reduced reuse recycle vibe. Someone needs to do it because
Speaker 2: the problem isn't going anywhere. And I think what we're
Speaker 2: gonna have is like cyclical think pieces about how there's
Speaker 2: so much waste. It's like telling companies, like, if companies
Speaker 2: really cared that their efforts were like destroying the planet,
Speaker 2: they would have stopped by now. So they're gonna keep
Speaker 2: sending their stuff. And what happens is by the time
Speaker 2: we get to the influence the influencer, it's their responsibility, right,
Speaker 2: it's your waste that you have to deal with. So
Speaker 2: now you are here trying to recycle these ridiculous pr
Speaker 2: packages and like, get this makeup to somebody else's roadic spies.
Speaker 2: It's just really silly you need another third parties like,
Speaker 2: don't worry, babes, give it to me, I'll sort it out.
Speaker 1: I guess the danger there is what if you have
Speaker 1: naughty influences who spike it with poison. Like once a
Speaker 1: brand sends something out and it's opened, what do you
Speaker 1: do with it? It's very hard to keep away from
Speaker 1: giving in to a friend.
Speaker 3: What if you're not opening it? What if it's closed?
Speaker 3: What if it choose?
Speaker 1: You send them my way, FLEXI money, send them my
Speaker 1: bloody way.
Speaker 2: You're get in the way of someone's million dollar business idea, Babe.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is like that would be a real
Speaker 2: that's a real problem that needs solving asap, not one
Speaker 2: of these like we made a new attachment for something
Speaker 2: some thing.
Speaker 1: Do you still get sense stuff? Every day?
Speaker 2: Every day, every single day, constantly I'm like, no, thank you,
Speaker 2: I don't want anything, no thank you, and they say
Speaker 2: oh no no.
Speaker 1: Like it's on us, like no excitations of posts.
Speaker 3: I said no.
Speaker 2: And what's worse is when you say no and you
Speaker 2: get things that were never gonna work, like I under
Speaker 2: staining if someone's like, I know you.
Speaker 3: Would really like this, but you just don't want it.
Speaker 2: Right, but if you're selling me closer to too small shoes,
Speaker 2: that would I can't wear food that I can't eat,
Speaker 2: like what do you call it? Like perishable foods? And
Speaker 2: I'm not at my it's just like it's excessive. But
Speaker 2: I just like do red herrings and now I just
Speaker 2: don't respond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit of that.
Speaker 3: You just move house and then it just goes to
Speaker 3: the old house.
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the stuff that's going to your
Speaker 1: old houses. The real goal is to try and move
Speaker 1: into a house that an influencer used to live in.
Speaker 2: I met someone who moved into my old house. They
Speaker 2: found me on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I recognize that.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, oh, okay, bet bet bet, it is
Speaker 2: what it is, though, that one's for free. You're welcome,
Speaker 2: Flex and frooms, Flex and froomes cater, never miss a beat.
Speaker 1: I got sent this message on Instagram and it is
Speaker 1: from a woman. I'll read it to you, she goes.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I memorize the automated phone
Speaker 1: call you received from the library when a book was
Speaker 1: ready for collection, and overtime perfected the automated robot voice,
Speaker 1: so my services are read a disposal. I didn't ask this,
Speaker 1: but I got it, and it's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: messages I've ever gone. Listen to this. I think even
Speaker 1: if you never got one of these causes a kid
Speaker 1: or you don't remember it, it's still a valance. I
Speaker 1: don't know her name is Sarah.
Speaker 4: Hello. This is a message from the Geelong Regional Library
Speaker 4: Corporation for Sarah Fuzia. We are calling to let you
Speaker 4: know that an item reserved by you is now ready
Speaker 4: for collection. Items will be held for seven days. You
Speaker 4: will need your membership card to collect your items. Thank you, goodbye.
Speaker 1: Ha Is that not the best robot voice ever? Don't
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say by Don't you dare?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say. Do you know what?
Speaker 2: If I knew what that was, I feel like I'd
Speaker 2: be like that was spot on. But it just sounds
Speaker 2: like a girl mimicking a robot.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: The oh, the intonation, the.
Speaker 1: Intonation, the words like the intonation cannot be taught lived.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was so impressive. I thought I
Speaker 1: hadn't heard like it was so deeply Australian in terms
Speaker 1: of the intonation and the the voice itself is like
Speaker 1: a voice that I've heard before that isn't. It's like
Speaker 1: Australian robot. It's a certain dialect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just Australian automation call.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that, Sarah. That made my day. I've got
Speaker 1: it when I was walking through Westfield in the city giggling.
Speaker 3: Yeah I can.
Speaker 2: I can imagine that warmed your heart, it did. That's
Speaker 2: very firms call.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, So thanks Sarah. If anyone else has like
Speaker 1: voice notes imitating things, I find it very interesting. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty good at doing accents.
Speaker 3: That's her.
Speaker 1: A man names Frims. I live in the jungle. No,
Speaker 1: I live in the swamp anyway. I need Yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: walk it off, walk it off, it off, flex and
Speaker 1: frooms they're the best. What did you I was on
Speaker 1: the bus the other day. I know, pretty princesses get
Speaker 1: the bus. I've been watching a lot of Sex in
Speaker 1: the City and Carrie says she never takes public transport.
Speaker 1: That's kind of rubbing off on me. No, she won't
Speaker 1: take the subwaycently takes cabs. Carbon footprint doesn't exist in
Speaker 1: Sex and the City early two thousands. I've learned.
Speaker 3: Are you enjoying it?
Speaker 1: I am obsessed? Does it still?
Speaker 2: Are you having to like suspend your disbelief and say
Speaker 2: like that was a show made in that time, So
Speaker 2: like I'm just gonna like enjoy it for what it is.
Speaker 2: Or you using like your twenty twenty three brain to
Speaker 2: watch that show bit of boat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fashion wise, I'm using my twenty twenty three brain.
Speaker 1: It's quite modern like in some ways. In other ways
Speaker 1: it's like it's very I think it's very aware of
Speaker 1: what it is, like a self.
Speaker 3: Aware show, self aware like girls, you'll say that.
Speaker 1: Anyway. I was on the bus the other day, the
Speaker 1: three three three going to the city, okay, and it's
Speaker 1: a very busy bus. It's one of those buses that
Speaker 1: has the curvy bit in the middle because it's so large,
Speaker 1: and I always choose the spot free from the back
Speaker 1: on the right side.
Speaker 3: That far up the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want the bit where like so at the
Speaker 1: back of the bus there's like a hump where the
Speaker 1: wheel is and I want to sit behind and we
Speaker 1: also can put my feet up a little bit, a
Speaker 1: bit of elevation. Anyway, I did the same one on
Speaker 1: the school bus that I take every day, same seat
Speaker 1: muscle memory he took every day. Yeah, Yeah, I took
Speaker 1: a bus to school.
Speaker 3: I believe you. I didn't have a driver. I took
Speaker 3: a bus chauffeur.
Speaker 1: And anyway, the bus was filling up. I get on
Speaker 1: the first stop. The bus is filling up and there's
Speaker 1: a person on every single seat. So now the people
Speaker 1: coming and choosing to who to sit next to. What
Speaker 1: do I get I'm the first person to be chosen
Speaker 1: to sat next to.
Speaker 3: What is that happening?
Speaker 1: It means I'm a nice person. It means that I
Speaker 1: have a friendly disposition. I look clean, I look as
Speaker 1: though I don't smell. Definitely there's a bit of a
Speaker 1: smell emitting from this T shirt right now, But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's okay, But it's like nice. I think if you
Speaker 1: were attracted to me, you'd find it a pleasant smell.
Speaker 1: But anyway, get on the bus in the morning, someone
Speaker 1: sitting next to me, and I thought, that is a
Speaker 1: good marker of me being a friendly looking person. The
Speaker 1: resting bee face was nowhere to be seen, and I
Speaker 1: just think, yeah, do you want to be the person
Speaker 1: in life you think about who you want to be?
Speaker 1: Do you want to be someone in life that gets
Speaker 1: sat next to on the bus. Because as annoying it
Speaker 1: as it is it means you're nice.
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