WEBVTT - The Sabbi Controversy 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.840 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.639 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.360 Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, a controversial 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.360 Aussie fashion brand has been accused of painting over an 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.680 Australian artist's work. The influx of Influencer, baby News and 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:26.440 our Friday Debrief. But first, as we predicted, Indie Clinton 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.520 doesn't have an office job. It was all an elabor 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.559 publicity stunt to announce her as the ambassador of a 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.600 new haircare brand Kay. A lot of people twigged it 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.559 was a marketing tactic, but it seems to have done 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.720 the trick for them. Yeah, it really did generate a 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.720 buzz for the haircare brand. It got a lot of 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.720 people talking, including us, so hats off to the marketing team. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.040 We have spoken about it on the podcast several times before, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.559 but as a refresher for those who may have missed it. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.920 About a month ago, a video of Indy Clinton working 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.640 in an office job went viral. That video was supposedly 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.440 captured by a coworker and shared to Ticked anonymously, and 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.640 while a lot of people took the bait and thought 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.160 Indie genuinely had a career change. A lot of people 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.240 were skeptical it was a PR stunt, and on Monday, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.000 Indie revealed it was in fact a marketing tactic to 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.320 promote a new haircare company called Boof. As we guessed 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.640 last week, the company has been launched by tvh Skincare 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.320 owner Rachel Wild, but there has been a bit of 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.880 confusion about what exactly INDI's role in the brand is 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.360 because a lot of people wondered if she maybe had 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.360 bought into the company due to this whole stunt around 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.120 her being a worker there, particularly also because of the 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.680 language she used in one of her TikTok videos, because 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.399 she shared her using the product for a couple of 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.959 months and said, if this is really good, we're gonna 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.200 launch it. So she obviously feels very much a part 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.600 of the team. But in a media release that we 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.720 received from the brand, they said she is just an ambassador. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.520 That is the messaging that has gone out on social 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.320 media as well. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe she 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.320 had a bit of a stake in the company. Now 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.480 I have to talk about the fact that on Friday morning, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.120 after our segment on Indie Clinton and booth hair aed 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.120 I got a LinkedIn request from Indy, so did you? 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.120 So did Amy? I laughed so much and thought what 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.280 a sense of humor. I had a laugh because her 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.720 job was listed as social and growth specialist. Now, the 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.160 product that they have launched is a hair growth serum, 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:19.359 so it seems like they were having a bit of 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.359 fun with that one. Yeah. Now, there has been a 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.760 lot of praise for this marketing stunt, but what seems 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.680 to have confused a lot of people is the promotional 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.359 video that they released this week featuring Indie Clinton as 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.959 you touched on Kate. They are selling a new hair 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.000 growth serum which is being targeted at postpartum women. So 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.400 with Indy being such a prolific mummy blogger, it makes 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.400 sense for her to be the face of this campaign 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.519 because she has spoken about her postpartum hair loss before. However, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.280 in the video, it didn't make sense because she was 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.639 wearing all of these elaborate wigs and hair extensions. Yeah, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.960 for those who haven't seen the video, she's dressed up 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.640 in a range of retro outfits and she's performing a 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.600 lot of household tasks, So she's dancing in the kitchen. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.040 She's also doing a workout, but yeah, as you said, 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.240 she's wearing these ridiculously long wigs, and one follower wrote, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.359 don't get me wrong, this is cool, but also I'm 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.359 not drawn to buying hair care when the model has 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.400 fake hair slash extensions. It's just hard to see how 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.080 a product can be effective when we aren't shown the 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.720 real results. Someone also wrote to India on TikTok, your 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.560 hair looks fantastic, but whoever's idea it was to wear 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.320 wigs for hair growth promotion should rethink that idea now. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.600 India replied, saying, it's a hair campaign inspired by the sixties. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.960 It's meant to be big and boofy, like the results 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.880 you get from the product. It's tongue in cheek and 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.640 fun emphasis on a fun campaign brought to life. Do 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.480 you think that their decision to incorporate wigs into this 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.880 campaign is going to affect whether people buy this product 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.960 or not? Do you think people won't believe in the 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.280 product because of it? Well, Indy actually went on to 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.040 share her results on her TikTok and she shared that 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.360 she's been using the product since January, and this actually 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.240 further disillusioned people, because people are like, hang on, you've 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.920 gone back to your natural hair color used to be blonde. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.080 Your baby isn't even that young anymore, so your hair's 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.960 probably just grown back. So it didn't seem like anyone 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.800 was happy with anything this brand was putting out. Anyone 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.280 who has thin hair nose. But it takes a lot 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.480 longer than a year to get your hair back into 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.719 some sort of condition. To be fair to Indie, well, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.280 my son Jack is nearly one years old, and my 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.839 hair is looking so bad, like it started to regrow back. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.600 If anything, a couple of months after you give birth, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.760 your hairs actually looking pretty good. It takes a little 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.560 while for that hair loss to actually happen. Yeah, I 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.120 mean at the end of the day, I actually don't 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.560 think that that's going to impact the sales anyway, because 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.599 it's had so much traction, so much engagement, So many 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.839 people know about it now, so I think the people 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.280 that want to give it a try will give it 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.760 a try. I think with hair growth serums and those 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.680 type of products, people are always a little bit dubious 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.160 and they're happy to see if it works for them. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.160 I think it will depend on the price point as well. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.919 Knowing TBH and how strong they are at marketing, particularly 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.640 on TikTok. They are going to be sending this product 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.560 to a lot of postpart and women and getting potentially 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.840 micro influences to do very realistic before and afters, which 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.520 is really what drives people at the moment. I feel 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.200 like when you see everyday people testing out a product 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.320 and giving their real and honest opinion, that's what makes 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.760 that's what makes me want to buy something. Yeah, before 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.080 we wrap things up, it was quite funny in India's 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.479 comments section there were a lot of American fans that 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.720 were surprised by the brand's name. So someone says, does 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.880 booth not mean the same thing in Australia as it 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.440 does in America? So, Saphie, do you know what booth 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.560 means in America? No? I have absolutely no idea. So 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.680 boof or boofings, but with a double O is a 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.960 slang term for inserting drugs or alcohol into your anus. Wow, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.120 produce a more immediate high. Oh can you imagine them? 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.200 In the TVH I was realizing this, like, fuck, first 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.120 the wigs, now these drugs and the anus thing. Yeah, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.760 I'm pretty sure the Australian term is for bouffont, which 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.240 is a style of hair in the sixties. I think 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.400 that's what they were going for. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.840 Morning. I know I'm wearing a very controversial top today, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.240 but it's only to get your attention because I'm looking 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.520 for recommendations on something that i can buy in replace 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:12.839 of this. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:17.440 Sabt The owner of a controversial Australian fashion brand has 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.360 been accused of painting over Australian artist Tany Kaylan's work 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.000 and uploading the results to Instagram. The heartbroken artist believes 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.000 the brazen act was a form of retaliation after she 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.520 recently started selling oversized t shirts with her artwork on it. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.400 The fashion brand in question has carved out a name 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.479 for itself for marketing oversized teas with positive affirmations. So 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.120 if this story is erupting on TikTok, how did it 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.600 all come about? Well, it all kicked off when Tani 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.719 made the revelation during a Q and A on Instagram. Now, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.200 she is a painter and a muralist based in her 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.040 hometown of Mandura in Wa, and she jumped on her 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.359 stories to explain that she was initially hesitant to open 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.760 up about the incident and spent weeks considering what to 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:03.360 do now, she finally decided that staying silent was not 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.000 an option and she was ready to speak out. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:06.359 So. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.200 Tany alleges that an Australian fashion brand purchased one of 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.239 her paintings last year for three thousand dollars. That piece 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.239 in question was one of her favorite originals, called get 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.520 Out of Your Own Way. I'm sure a lot of 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.360 our listeners have seen this painting popping up on TikTok 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.000 this week. It's a really cool piece that has two 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.880 mermaids each on the back of a horse with cowboy 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.760 hats on. It's an original piece and like a lot 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.800 of Chinese work, there's a lot of textures on the canvas. Now, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.560 Taney alleges that the local fashion brand in question, who 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.200 she chose not to name, painted over her artwork and 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.560 posted them doing so online. Now Understandably, she got very 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.560 emotional over this and wrote, it's like watching someone hurt 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.560 someone you love and saying nothing is painful to see 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.320 any of my work a raised, but especially this one. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.600 It held a lot of meaning for me. I wish 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.800 they'd simply passed it on, not covered it up. Artists 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.040 are sensitive, emotional beings. When we create with meaning, we're 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.400 offering up a part of ourselves is vulnerable. It's honest, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.200 it's real. I'm sharing this because artists deserve better. Our 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.280 work isn't disposable. It's a piece of our heart and soul, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.400 and when it's treated that way, it hurts more than 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:20.240 people realize. It's just incomprehensible to me that someone would 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.080 paint over and artists work, and what's even more unbelievable 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.320 is that they would brazenly share themselves doing it online. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.040 It just seems like the ultimate act of disrespect and 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.200 almost like this individual was waving a flag in the 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.679 artist's face, wanting some form of reaction from them. Now, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.920 despyed Tany not naming the fashion brand, it wasn't long 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.280 before her followers started connecting the dots and realized that 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.280 she was talking about the controversial clothing brand Sabi. Now. 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.880 The brand is known for selling oversized T shirts ironically 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.760 with positive affirmations across them. It is owned by husband 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.120 and wife team Jace McDonell and Ash Tadu, who live 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.240 in Queensland. Now those names may sound familiar to listeners, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.000 as back in March, we covered the Internet bloodbath that 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.920 broke out between Sabi and author turned TikToker Kate Forster. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.360 So some of Kate's followers had noticed a growing number 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:16.040 of Mummy influencers sharing far right views wearing Sarby shirts, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.360 and this led Kate to do some research into the brand, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.040 and she quickly discovered that one of the owners, Jace, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.040 was following Donald Trump on his personal account. The response 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.000 was pretty mixed online. There were some followers who started 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.880 threatening to boycott Sarby, whilst others sent an influx of 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.640 hate towards Kate Forster. In fact, her TikTok actually ended 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.400 up getting mass reported, which then triggered every single one 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.760 of her videos to be removed, so it impacted her greatly. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.920 In response, Sarby put out a lengthy written statement but 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.680 didn't address the elephant in the room whether or not 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.000 they politically support or align with Donald Trump. They said 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.360 they didn't want to talk about political views because they're 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.480 not political, but went on to clarify that Jason followed 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.240 Trump to keep an eye on importation tariffs. Now, I 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.040 want to get into the reason why people are convinced 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.840 that Tani is talking about Sabi, and that is because 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.559 a few weeks prior, the owner Ash uploaded a video 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.240 of her painting a canvas. Now, the canvas in question 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.440 was to go over her bed and in true Sarbi style, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.320 had a massive positive affirmation, which she painted across it. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.520 So in the real you can see the Ash has 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.959 painted the background of this really large canvas a mixture 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:33.200 of yellows, oranges, and pinks. She then added very messy 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.800 writing across it, which took up the entire canvas and read, 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.360 dear me, you were not perfect, but you are enough. 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.200 Don't believe the lies you tell yourself. You have a 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.880 magic inside you that no one else on this planet has, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.199 and just because you can't see it all the time 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.000 doesn't mean it isn't there. Take your breath. You are 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.240 doing the best you can and that is enough. Now. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.600 The comment section was flooded by customers admiring her work, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.640 with one going as far as saying they wish they 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.800 could mission a piece from her now. I want to 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.680 put it out there for those of you who haven't 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:08.280 seen this canvas yet. But after Ash was finished with it, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.840 it literally looked like a dog's breakfast. I can't believe 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.840 that anyone was saying that they wanted this on their wall. 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.320 The background was so messy and sloppy, it was not 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.520 a work of art by any means. And whilst these 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.040 are allegations at this stage, I want to say, if 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.319 Ash has painted over Tarny's work with this absolute abomination, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.480 it is the most disgusting and disrespectful thing I've seen 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.520 in such a long time. I mean, not only does 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.680 it look completely amateur, but the nerve to cover someone's 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.600 art way that they've put their blood, sweat and tears 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.079 into with essentially a love letter to yourself about how 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:46.719 wonderful you are. It's beyond belief. It's just crazy, isn't it. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.200 A lot of people have been rightly questioning, though, how 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.520 can you tell the original artwork has been painted over? 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.720 Because in this video she didn't start off with Tarny's 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.120 work and show herself covering it. So a lot of 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.680 TikTokers have been doing God's work for us. As you 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.120 touched on earlierk Tanny's style of painting uses a lot 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.680 of different textures and they are very evident in the 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.200 original artwork. So a number of TikTokers have zoomed in 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.400 on both of the artworks to point out many of 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.200 the clear texture lines that are visible in both of 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.960 the pieces, and other TikTokers are also convinced that you 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.360 can see a faint outline of the horses and mermaids 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.280 in the background of Ash's print. The prints are also 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.239 the exact same size, so there are a few telltale 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.559 signs that this potentially is the same artwork. I think 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.920 it's important to point out that we don't know this 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.560 as fact. They are just allegations at this stage. Sabi 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.400 has since removed the reel of Ashes painting, but they 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.880 are yet to put out a statement or comment publicly 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.480 on the fallout. If Taranese claims are true, the burning 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.920 question is why why would you cover up and raise 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.480 an artist's work. Well, Tanni thinks she knows the answer, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.200 so in the same Q and A, she alleged that 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:04.240 one of Sabi's staff members accused her of coppying Sabi's design. So, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.640 as well as selling original artworks, Tani has also been 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.920 selling oversized T shirts for the past year, which have 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.600 her artwork on it. They're really cool, and she alleges 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.240 that the Sabi worker accused her of copying their iconic 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.240 flame design. And using it on one of her T shirts. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.280 She wrote, I'm assuming that maybe that's what their issue is, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.760 but that's only an assumption. I have no idea the 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.120 real reason, and I'm sure I'll never find out. It 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.880 does lead you to question if ash did paint over 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.440 this artwork. Did she purposely do this as retribution? I mean, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:42.120 the fact that she filmed it would suggest potentially she did. Yeah. Well, 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:43.839 it seems like there has been a bit of competition 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.840 between these two T shirt brands, because a follower also 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.440 wrote to Tani, did you notice Sabi do drops two 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.040 hours before every drop you have to, which Tani replied no, 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.559 I didn't notice this, but a few other people messaged 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.160 me last night telling me this. Not sure if it's true, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.280 but if it is true, there's eight billion p people 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.480 in the world, I think there's room for everyone. This 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.400 is all so weird. Now. There has been a massive 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:09.000 response online to this unfolding story, with the Internet collectively 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.400 turning on Sarbi and calling to cancel the Ossie brand. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.680 Many women have shared tiktoks about how they're now embarrassed 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.559 to wear their Sarby shirts in public, which is a 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.640 shame because they're quite expensive T shirts. They're bloody ugly. Though, 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.960 I have to put out there someone else shared this 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.720 sentiment online. Let's throw to what they said. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.640 I made a TikTok probably a year ago about this 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.640 exact subject, and I posted it for all of three seconds, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.080 and then I was like, because there was such an 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.120 unpopular opinion at the time, because it. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.400 Was peak cult, peak cult, peak fucking uniform Savy shirts 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.800 are fucking ugly. That's my opinion, okay, And I wish 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.800 I said something about it sooner, because now now it's 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.800 like come to light that they're not fucking great people 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.040 save lovers are going to come after me in the comments, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:53.640 and that's fine. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.520 Your shirt's fucking ugly. I'd be pretty disappointed if I 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.440 spent fucking eighty bucks on a shirt and it faded 0:14:58.480 --> 0:14:59.880 to the shit as well. I'll just turned into a 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.240 Bunco white anko shirt. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.080 I don't like the badmouth Australian brands, but in my 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.360 personal opinion, I would not wear a loud T shirt 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.040 like this, particularly after all these allegations have come out. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.280 Another TikTok user something that up well, creating a video 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.640 saying what are we all doing with our sabi shirts 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.960 after what happened with Tany Kielan's work, and one user 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.400 suggested in the comments section that they should send all 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.960 of them to Tani to paint over. There has been 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.160 a camp of people who I'm guessing don't work in 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.040 a creat a field, who have said, well, what's the 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.840 big deal? The brand in question bought the artwork, they 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.280 can essentially now do whatever they want with it. However, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.920 that is actually not true. Tani and her work are 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.000 protected under Australia's Copyright Act for Moral Rights. So under 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.080 Australian copyright law, buying a physical artwork like a painting 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.520 or sculpture does not necessarily give you the legal right 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.040 to deface, modify or destroy it, particularly if the artist 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.520 still holds moral rights. So when you buy a piece 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.800 of art, you own the physical object, but copyright and 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.920 moral rights often remain with the artists unless they've been 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:06.680 explicitly wavered or assigned. So essentially, under this Moral Right Act, 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.080 the artist still has the right of integrity, which in 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.760 this case it has not been kept. I mean, you 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.800 can't just simply do whatever you want with an artist's painting, 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.800 particularly when you are then going to post about it 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.520 on social media or display the new artwork in public. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.480 I never really thought about it before, but it makes 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.440 a lot of sense because you think about all of 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.400 the beautiful historic artwork that hangs in galleries. I mean, 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.480 I'd never really considered that someone rich could buy it 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.240 and destroy it all. But I'm glad to hear that 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.280 it's actually protected by law. Well, this is an Australian law, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.760 but I'm sure other countries have something similar. I mean 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.280 people have been pointing out, look, this wasn't a came 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.320 art reprint of a canvas that you can take home 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.760 and essentially do as you please. This is an Australian 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.280 artist's original artwork that has been destroyed. It's disgusting. I mean, 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.920 just go buy a blank canvas. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.800 So you're going to tell everyone if you're having a 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.800 baby brother or a baby sister, you can't talk. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.640 No, he can't. So that's why we have said it 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.960 on the pod today. Now, Tuesday was a very big 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:11.560 day for influencer babies. Two Ozzie influencers announced they were pregnant, 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.919 while another gave birth. The one that shocked me the 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:16.560 most was jar Da Tunci. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:16.840 So. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.359 She announced on Tuesday that she's joining the two under 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.320 two club, So she shared a carousel of professional photos 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.000 from a family photo shoot and wrote, Lote Fletcher and 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.480 I are overjoyed to share that our little family will 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:34.600 be growing this December. I immediately screenshot this as soon 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.200 as I saw it and sent it to you, Cake. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.000 So I knew that you would have a big reaction 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.200 to this because you had your son Jack around the 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.919 very similar time to jar Day had Fletcher, and I 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.800 know that you just couldn't wrap your head around the 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.600 fact that she's having another one. So so I had 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.040 to do a double take because I, hang on, this 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.400 can't be correct, because yeah, Fletcher is four days younger 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.800 than Jack, and I'm currently getting ready for Jack's birthday party. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.800 In the thought of being pregnant with the second one, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.800 I send my love to Jade Tunci. That would be 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.479 so difficult. She's had such a big transformation since becoming 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.719 a mum. I think before motherhood people found her content 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:14.080 quite confusing because she was trying to be comedic about stuff, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.120 but then she wasn't that relatable, so people didn't get it. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.320 But now that she's a mom and she's been sharing 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.800 the reality of motherhood, people like, I get you now. Yeah, 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.439 she's actually very funny. I mean I was one of 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.560 those people that didn't really like her content, and now 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.080 I really enjoy it. And she has been really vulnerable 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.640 in sharing everything that she's been going through. I mean 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.040 I was glued to her Instagram story when she was 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.440 trying to get Fletcher to sleep in his own cot 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.800 because they're still struggling with this sleep at the moment, 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.119 which is why I'm like, oh my god, those poor people. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.679 Adding a newborn baby into the mix as well. Well, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.800 It's funny looking at TikTok and Instagram's reaction because on 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.080 Instagram she shared these beautiful family photos and people were 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.720 so excited and sharing their love. However, she shared a 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.400 different announcement on TikTok. It was a video of her 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.560 walking along the beach and she turned around to show 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.040 off her baby. She's currently on this holiday at the 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.800 Great Barrier Reef and I think that's where she shot 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.280 the video. And people's reactions were so different. On TikTok. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.960 A lot of people were like, oh my god, what 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:14.080 are you doing. Someone wrote congratulations, I have two under two. 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.879 It's beautiful, but please prepare yourself mentally I have a 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:20.720 village of support and still cry weakly. People don't need this, 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.560 I know. Another said two under two is rough. Good luck. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.119 Fortunately for jar Day, a lot of mum's chimes in 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.720 saying the opposite, and they love the experience of having 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.800 two under two. I have to admit, though, my TikTok 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.200 algorithm at the moment is people talking about how hellish 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.800 two under two are. Just in case Jade's listening. Oh, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.000 I don't want to say it to her. I mean, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.600 I'm sure it's a beautiful experience, but a lot of 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.520 people are saying one is an accessory and two is 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.639 a lifestyle. So I just have no idea how mom 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.439 had three at the same time, Like, I just have 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.840 so much respect for her. What's funny you say that 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.000 because jar Day's sister actually commented saying three babies at Christmas, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.359 and a lot of people didn't realize that jarda sister 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.639 is thirty eight weeks pregnant, so she's talking about jar 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.639 Day's two and her one, but three people saying, oh 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.560