1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: If you saw a spinach wrap, would you think that 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: it was healthier? What about some veggie based chips? There 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: are tons of supermarket foods that appear to be healthier, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: but on closer inspection, this may not always be the case. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Nutrition Couch, we share some 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: of the worst healthy masquerades that we've found in the soupermarket. Hi, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm Leanne Maud and I'm Sidney Burrow, and together we 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you up to date on everything that you need to 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: know in the world of nutrition, as well as healthy 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: foods disguised as other things. Today we chat about the 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: increasing number of people presenting with nutrient deficiencies post extreme 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: diets and weight loss surgery. We've also found a yogurt 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: that is particularly high in calcium, and our listener question 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: is all about kids and bone help. So to kick 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: us off today, Zuzie, I'll start off with I did 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of real on TikTok a couple of 18 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago now and I found these Should I name 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: the brand? These wraps? My lade to name the brand? 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: Maybe not? I found these spinach wraps on the market 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and they were green, and I picked them up, but 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: I thought, interesting, as you do as a dietitian, you 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: think green wrap must be healthier. And I had in 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: big letters across the front of the back spinach wraps 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: and they're on sale, and I thought, well, forty percent off. 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, right, And then right next to them 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: were the sweet potato wraps, and I thought, oh, that's 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: interesting because I could see how a lot of people 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: who perhaps were trying to reduce the amount of maybe 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: they had in their diet, or just perceived as a 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: sweet potato wrappers potentially with healthier a lot of people 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: would be buying them. And I thought, I'm really interested 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: to see the percentage of spinach and sweet potato in 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: these wraps. Lo and behold Susie. I turned them over 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: and the spinach was and I kid you not, I 36 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: nearly dropped the packet. I was so shocked. I knew 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be high, because as dietitians were trained 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: to really analyze the marketing and the food labeling, but 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: even I was shocked, and that doesn't happen very often 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: these days. Those wraps had one percent spinach of them, 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, is this a joke? How are 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: they so green? And so they obviously had a bit 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: they said natural color in them to give them the 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: green appeal in the effect, and the sweet potato ones 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: would know real better. They were two point five percent, 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I think from memory, and I just thought this is shocking. 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: How are they even allowed to advertise something as contained 48 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: spinach with one percent and the amount of people that 49 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: would pick that up thinking that that is absolutely a 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: healthy alternative, or think I'm going to give that to 51 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: my fussy kid so that they don't have to eat 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: their vegetables, and I just think that's not a replacement 53 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: for eating vegetables. I would rather my client had a 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: better multi grain wrap with some visible whole grains in there, 55 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: because the reality is that spinach wrap was still a 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: white refined rap with one percent spinach a bit of green, 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, natural coloring or whatever, and it was 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: still just a white refined wrap. I would probably I 59 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: would much rather my clients had a better quality, nutritious 60 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: whole grain wrapp or even a couple of slices of 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: dense whole grain bread added a ton of spinach onto 62 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: it along with some other lovely veggies like some grated carrots, 63 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: some grated beetood and a bit of lean protein and 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: really built a balance wrap or sandwich with that, rather 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: than buying those wraps even if they were you know, 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: on sale, the home brand variety is you know, the 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: nice multi grain ones were still you know, a bit cheaper, 68 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a bit more budget friendly. So I just it was 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: a good discussion. There's quite a few products in the 70 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: supermarket that kind of masked as healthier products, and I 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: think if we're not smart, and we're not we don't 72 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: take the time to read our food labels, it can 73 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: be very easy to be conned into buying something that 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: we think, oh, this is going to give me that 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: little bit of a boost, or you know, I don't 76 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: really love my veggies, so I'll choose this getting a 77 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: really nice veggie based wrap in. But the reality is 78 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: that one percent is not even going to make a 79 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: little blip on the radar in terms of how many 80 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: vegetables and salad you really need to be eating. Is it? 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: No? And I noticed it actually. First of all, your 82 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: video was hilarious. It pops up on my social media 83 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: and I strongly encourage you to go and check it. 84 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Out on lands TikTok or Instagram when she was horrified 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: about the wrap finding she was it's worth watching. And 86 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: I think that when we had closer to Lukalan that 87 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: it actually had color. It had chlorophylinage and that to 88 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: give it the green to make a green. So of 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: course in the spinach. I'd noticed it when I was 90 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: doing a crispbread review because I knew that there was 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: sort of a couple of new products in supermarkets to 92 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: replace a Lina And one of the ones is Splits, 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: the Splits range, which is stocked in coals, and they're 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: actually got vegetable names. So there's like pumpkin, carrot, and 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 2: when you have a closer look, one of them's got 96 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: like three percent carrot powder. This one I'm looking at, 97 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: it's got dried pumpkin three percent. Like that is not vegetable, 98 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, like a bit of vegetable powder is not 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: the same, particularly in a really refined product where you're 100 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: getting no nutrition. And I think in the case of raps, 101 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: for example, wraps are are highly processed. Definitely, bread is 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: a less processed product. I think raps really masquerade is 103 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: being healthy, but it takes a lot of processing to 104 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: create that consistency in texture. And you'll notice that wraps 105 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: you can keep for a really long time as well. 106 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: So again nutritionally not superior, but when you sort of 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: associate them with vegetables, they get that feeling. And the 108 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: same with these crisp bread But these chrisp bread are 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: so ultra pro like the base is rice, which is 110 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: highly refined. It's not brown rice, and as such, there's 111 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: very little fiber in them and they barely feel you. 112 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: But they've all got vegetable names. I see it then, 113 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: I do see it in some of the sort of snacks. 114 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: Now we're not talking about some of the veggie chips, 115 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: which are clearly like vegetables, like you can literally see 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: the slice of beet troot in the packet. That's not 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: the one because we're talking about. We're talking about the 118 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: ones that are more like the extruded kind of snacks 119 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: that look nothing like a vegetable, and often they don't 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: have a whole lot of vegetable in them. I think 121 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: those some of those pea snap ones as well a 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: little bit, but they're I've just looked at the vegie 123 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 2: straws actually because I thought they would be a bit dodged, 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: but they're actually got quite a high vegetable percentage. They 125 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: are still ultra processed. There's still ultra processed because you're right, 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: but they actually do have quite a high vegetable content. 127 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: So it's kind of in that gray area. But some 128 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: of the sort of ones that we've spoken about before 129 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: that i've got msg aded, they don't have a whole lot. 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: And I also think looking back to some kids products, 131 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: I remember in the kids section, you might be more 132 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: aware of this than I because your kids are that 133 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: age that there's a few like chip type products for kids, 134 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: like popped things, and they've got like a little bit 135 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: of vegetable, but when you look it's very very small, 136 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: so you don't have to do it one scan. 137 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kids, Isla. I remember Hindes have a good one. 138 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: I think it was like tomato and lentil. There are 139 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: some definitely some better ones, but have a scan because 140 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I think they've gone off the market now because there 141 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: was a lot of controversy around them. This was a 142 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: few years ago, before I even had my kids. I 143 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: remember from a memory it was something like I think 144 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: they were like the veggie the fruit straps, like almost 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: not roll ups, but kind of a similar thing, right, 146 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: But they were trying to be a bit healthier, and 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: they were saying that they're like fruit and veggie straps basically, 148 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: and I remember from memory they were like eighty percent 149 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: ninety percent fruit, like they were basically all sugar, even 150 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: though it was natural and it was fruit, and it 151 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: was like one percent vegetable powder. And again I think 152 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: there was actually from memory, like a bit of a 153 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: legal case or something. I'll have to look it up 154 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: and go back, but I remember I think they got 155 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: pulled off the market soon after because they weren't actually 156 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: allowed to say maybe it wasn't even one percent, maybe 157 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: it was even less than one percent vegetable in them, 158 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: but they were calling them like, you know, strawberry and 159 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: beech root, or they were calling them zucchini and blueberry 160 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: or something. But it was like heavy sugar. It was 161 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: added sugar. Like they just shouldn't have been anywhere near 162 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the Kid's aisle basically, and I don't think they even 163 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: really exist anymore, but I have seen similar things pop 164 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: up in there, like in the music bar Aile recently 165 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: because misaw something and I think it had Elsa on 166 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: the front and she'sn't going through her elsie ear at 167 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the moment, and the other one had Spider Man and 168 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, those and I was like, absolutely not. 169 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: They were basically just like the roll ups, but they 170 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: said you know, a bit of a kind of fruit 171 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: and vege on the front of it, but they were 172 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: still really high sugar, like over ten grams from memory. 173 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: So I think it's just an important recap to always 174 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: be reading our food labels and always just be that 175 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: a little bit aware and not get sucked into the 176 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: front of pack marketing, because really, brands can say anything, 177 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: can't they. And a lot of times brands get around 178 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it by what they call the name, like they might say, 179 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, veggie Field or something, but I think they 180 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: can just say that right, or they can say I 181 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: remember the years ago, there was a brand of shampoo 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: called I can't remember the name, but it sounded like organic, 183 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: like it had the last couple of letters were changed, 184 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: but it wasn't organic at all, and it was just 185 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: this huge marketing thing where the brand didn't use organic products, 186 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: but the actual name of the brand kind of sounded 187 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: like that, so everybody naturally made the assumption. So I 188 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: think it's just a really important reminder not to really 189 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: pay too much attention to the front of pack marketing 190 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: and really turn that over and look at the nutrition ingredients, 191 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: look at the nutritional information panel, and really make sure 192 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: if you're buying that as a better product to kind 193 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: of boost the veggie intake in your diet or your 194 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: kid's diart, it actually has a decent amount. And by 195 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: decent amount, I would say at least over ten percent, 196 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't you. 197 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've just found another one organic carrot puff 198 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: So these are in the kids section over seven months old. 199 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: The ingredient organic cornflower seventy seven percent, organic sunflower or 200 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: rape seed oil, and then organic carrot powder ten percent. 201 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: But to me, it's it's just a powder form. You're 202 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: not getting any dietary fiber, so it's masquerading because that's 203 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: ultimately a highly processed food for kids that offers no 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: dietary fiber. But it's got carrot written all over it, 205 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: so you'd be thinking it's healthy where it's really it's 206 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: just puff corn. It's not that much better than a 207 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: puff corn chip really, So yeah, you do have to 208 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: be careful. But if I saw a powder added I 209 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: don't count that as a vegetable. That's not the same 210 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: thing because nutritionally from a vegetable you're getting vitamins and 211 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: minerals which is in the whole form of the food 212 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: and dietary fiber, and a powder. You're just getting a 213 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: refined form and giving it the color. So yeah, as 214 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: soon as you see that, I'd be a little bit 215 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: bit suspicious. So again, if you see a spinach wraps, 216 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: probably not that great loomba. Alright, you actually mentioned this 217 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: to me a few weeks ago, and you said that 218 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: you had come across a case of clinical scurvy. Now, 219 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: for those of you who are thinking, oh, I've heard 220 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: that word before, I want you to think back to 221 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: your time at school when you were thinking about and 222 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: learning about Captain Cook and when the first fleet first 223 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: came out to Australia, and of course a lot of 224 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: the people on the boat suffered scurvy, which was the 225 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: clinical nutrient deficiency of vitamin C that we get from 226 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: fresh food. And of course, in the olden days, when 227 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: we were on boats for months at a time, the 228 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: amounts of fresh food were very very light on and 229 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: over time people could develop vitamin seed deficiency. Now it 230 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: is very very rare to see that in Australia. I've 231 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: never heard or seen of it, but just by chance 232 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: on my news feed it popped up that there had 233 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: been another clinical case reported from a person who'd been 234 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: post gastric sleeve surgery or gastric band surgery, and you 235 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: and I were just having a little discussion about it, 236 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: and it doesn't surprise me because one of the secondary 237 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: effects of weight loss surgery at the extreme, whether it's 238 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: a gastric bipass or sleeve, where people's food intake is 239 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: severely restricted, or also more recently where people are using 240 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: semaglue tides like ozen peak and more govy for those 241 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: who are very strict with their diet or have severe 242 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: limitation physically, as in the case with gastric surgeries, and 243 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: the first foods to often go from the menu are 244 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: fresh whole foods. So in the case of gastric surgery, 245 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: one sort of soft food tends to go down better, 246 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: or there's a real focus on getting enough protein, and 247 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: if you can't eat a lot and you're getting your protein, 248 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: there's not that much room for salad and vegetables left, 249 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: or the same in the case of GLP or semaglue tides, 250 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: where you've got severely limited appetite and you're really focused 251 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: on protein rich foods, there's not a lot of room 252 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: necessarily for a large salad or if that's not your 253 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: natural preference. It's very easy to say, have you know, 254 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: an egg for breakfast or yogurt mash tuna and rice 255 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: for lunch, Like, if you're not really onto it, over time, 256 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: you can absolutely and we're seeing it more and more 257 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: because of these more extreme diets. So we just thought 258 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: it was an interesting discussion about the importance you know, 259 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: nutrition and food. It's not just about diet and weight control. 260 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: It's actually about getting key nutrients we need for optimal function. 261 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: And just fresh back from our retreat, you know, we 262 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: saw several of our ten ds with nutrient deficiencies, even 263 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: though they're pretty healthy bunts, you know, listening to the 264 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: nutrition couch and having a firm, interesting nutrition and even 265 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: then with modern day pressures on life and food often 266 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: eaten on the run, you know, it does happen, and 267 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: vitamin see can be at risk if you're limiting fresh food, 268 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: particularly fruits and veggies in the diet. 269 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely and I'll go back to the story which I 270 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 1: was telling you. I think it was a couple of 271 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, but this actually happened years ago, back when 272 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: I was still a clinical dietitian back at one of 273 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: the Brisbane hospitals. And that time, you used to sit 274 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in clinic and you go through your referrals that morning, 275 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: and the doctors would just right on the top of 276 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the referral like why they preferred the client. Because in 277 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: that dietitian clinic, we took a lot of referrals from 278 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: doctors and I typically see stuff like, you know, newly 279 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: diagnosed celiac. I might see weight loss and you know, 280 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: blood sugar management for poorly controlled diabetes. And this one 281 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: day I picked up a referral form and it said 282 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: scurvy with a couple of exclamation points next to it, 283 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: and I went, no, they're kidding, like scurvy. No, I've 284 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: never seen that. I've been practicing for over a decade 285 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: and I've never seen scurvy. And you just said, Susan, 286 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you've never seen a clinical diagnosis and scurvy and you're 287 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: an entire practice as well, And I thought, surely this 288 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: is this is not right, right, surely they made a 289 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: missa and the one behold, this lady came in and 290 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: she yeah, she had scurvy. She had all of the symptoms. 291 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: So from a symptom based perspective, some of the signs 292 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: of a very severe vitamin seed deficiency that would lead 293 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to scurvy are things like bleeding, gums, wobbly toothed, like 294 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: a lot of issues were dental, really poor wound healing. 295 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: She had these little like red spots and stuff all 296 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: up her arms and they just wouldn't heal. Anemia, fatigue, 297 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: black circles under your eyes, weakness and fatigue. So there's 298 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: some of the big signs, and obviously they're not just 299 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: signs of scurvy. They can be signs of a range 300 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: of other things, including simple things like malnutrition and other 301 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: types of vitamin and mineral deficiencies as well. And when 302 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: it came down to it, we did a full diet 303 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: review because I was like, how was you know, a 304 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: woman in this day and age, living in Australia, we 305 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: have good access to food and fresh food, how does 306 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: this happen? And the crux of it was Susie that 307 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: she was following such a restrictive keutogenic diet for the 308 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: last two years. That she had not allowed herself a 309 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: piece of fruit or juice or nothing with fruit in 310 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: it for years, and the only vegetables she allowed herself 311 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: to eat were the green ones. So we do know 312 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: that some of our veggies have vitamin C in them 313 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: as well, things like capsigerm and tomato. She didn't do 314 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: any colors but green, and even then she would weigh 315 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: the amount of green vegetables because she was so worried 316 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: about the carb content and that kicking her out of katosis. Basically, 317 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: so this ketogenic diet that she was using for you know, 318 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: weight loss and health had actually done the opposite effect 319 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: and created malnutrition and scurvy in her. So we basically 320 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: slowly just took her off that and slowly started to 321 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: reintroduce carbohydrates and some fresh foods and some better quality 322 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: vegetables and more diversity into her diet. But it can 323 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: take a really long time to reverse in people as well. 324 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: But it's just crazy to be seeing these types of 325 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: things in this day and age. But it really does 326 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: come down to overly restricted diet. Sometimes it's intentional, other 327 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: times it's not. You might have you know, some quite 328 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: severe malabsorption medical issues going on where your body's just 329 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: not able to absorb some neutral You may have had 330 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: some big surgery like Susie mentioned for potentially weight loss, 331 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: and you're simply just not able to eat the required amount, 332 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: volume or texture of foods to get the nutrition or 333 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: volume in. And you know, even post a lot of 334 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: these big barometric type surgeries, you're supposed to take essentially 335 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: multivitamins for life. And what I used to see when 336 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I was doing the baroer to clinics as well, is 337 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people just couldn't tolerate them because they 338 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: were massive tablets and they just couldn't get them down, 339 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and they had so many symptoms like nausea in volmenting 340 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: post surgery that they were really really struggling. So we 341 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: saw so much malnutrition in those clinics, and it was 342 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: awful because you know, people were like, oh, I've lost 343 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: thirty kilos, this is so amazing, but at the same 344 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: time they felt so crap because they couldn't get in 345 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: the required amounts of nutrition. So I think it's just 346 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: another really good example where balanced eating always trumps, doesn't it. 347 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Like we always come back to good quality, balanced eating 348 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: fresh foods. If the diet that you're following is not 349 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: maintainable for life, if it's creating nutrient deficiencies, it's probably 350 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: not something that's actually really healthy for you. Were probably 351 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: not something you can do long term or should do 352 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: long term. 353 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Even I think that fruit gets a bit of a 354 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: beating because we're so focused and even myself on people 355 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: getting enough vegetables. So really, and I think there's that 356 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: belief out there that green vegetables are so superior nutritionally, 357 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: and indeed they do have a number of key nutrient 358 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: properties which make them a souper food, particularly for cell 359 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: health and anti cancer action. But the orange and red 360 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: group to the sweet potato, red capsicum tomato, as you said, 361 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: also very very rich in antioxidants, even though they may 362 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: have a high carbohydrate content in the case of something 363 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: like sweet potato. But certainly with fruit, I think you're 364 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: either a fruit eater or you're note. So my fruit 365 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: eaters are like so happy right now because it's coming 366 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: into stone fruit season and they're like, oh my god, 367 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: how much can I cram in? You know, the beautiful 368 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: apricots and peaches and nectarines, which are so nutrient rich 369 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: and very high in vitamin C, so such beautiful skin 370 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: and so good for us. But then you have people 371 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: who don't eat a lot of fruit at all. You know, 372 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: they'll struggle to even get a piece in per day. 373 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: For me, that's the ones who are at risk offor 374 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: of constipation because they're not getting that beautiful soluble fiber 375 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: from things like apples, oranges and then stone fruits. So 376 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: if you know yourself you're not a big fruit eater, 377 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: it is important that you're getting I would say, at 378 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: least one piece a day, and ideally of something vitamin 379 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: sea rich. So things like your berries are great, particularly 380 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: you can add them to smoothies or to yogurt. Coming 381 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: into stone fruit season another great option, keyway fruit not 382 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: in season now, but very nutrient rich. You know, really 383 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: make a concerted effort to try and get at least 384 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: one piece of fresh food and that will go a 385 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: long way and ticking the box on your vitamin seed intake. 386 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: But for anyone listening who has had gastric bypass or 387 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: sleeve surgery in the past or is taking that a 388 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: new range of ozen peak w go vy and know 389 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: that your intake has significantly reduced in the short term, 390 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: This would absolutely be a group I would suggest a 391 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: general multi vitamin because when your intakes significantly reduced for 392 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: whatever reason, you might be unwell, you might be having 393 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: some sort of treatment, you might not be able to 394 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: eat very much because of a throat issue, dental issue, 395 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: or you may be taking one of these new drugs 396 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: or physically restricted with gastric surgeries. Absolutely, you should be 397 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: taking a women's multi vitamin because at least then in 398 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: the background you're getting that kind of nutrient hit at 399 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: least every second day. And we recently spoke about supplements 400 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: on the podcast and how you and I often take 401 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of clients of supplements. But in that instance 402 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: where you know your intake is severely reduced, or you 403 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: may be doing a strict diet for a period of 404 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: time for whatever reason, that is a perfect reason to 405 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: add a general multi vitamin to your regime, just to 406 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: tick the box on those key nutrients. 407 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And actually, if you've had barotric surgery, you 408 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: just need to go that one step further because generally 409 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: there are specific multi vitamins that you actually should be taking. 410 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: They have higher amounts of things than just the standard 411 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: multi vitamin that you might pick off the shelf from 412 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: Coals or will Worth or the local pharmacy. So really 413 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: make sure that you're following up with your team, your surgery, 414 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: and your dietisian to ensure that you're getting those higher 415 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: amounts of some of those because depending on the type 416 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: of bariotric surgery of the type of that you've had, 417 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: sometimes that can actually create more malabsorption and more issues 418 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: with different types of nutrients. So really make sure that 419 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: you're taking the appropriate type of multi vitem and not 420 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: just a random one that you've found in your local 421 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: pharmacy as well. Moving on to our next section, sushi. 422 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Talking about nutrients, calcium we harp on about all the time. 423 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: All of our listeners are how important it is, and 424 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: I thought that everybody kind of knew about this, and 425 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: as I was recommending it so often in my retreat, 426 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: we I think we need to talk about this on 427 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: the podcast because there are so many of our ladies 428 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: who are really into those kind of menopause yas. And 429 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: the calcium requirements go from around about one thousand milligrams 430 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: up to thirteen hundred milligrams a day for most women 431 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: over fifty and that is a heck of a lot 432 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: of calcium. And if you're someone that doesn't really drink 433 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of tea, your coffee, or just doesn't enjoy milk, 434 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: you can have a really hard time getting that in 435 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: through diet, a really hard time. So a product that 436 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: I use routinely, or two products that I use routinely, 437 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: one of them will go through today. One of them 438 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: is a John West calcium fortified tuna that's kill high 439 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: in calcium because it's got the bones in the tuner 440 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: or mixed in. And the second one is the new 441 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: range of Yopro Perform. So it's in a black tub 442 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: with silver writing saying perform. They do tubs and they 443 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: do the pouches of it as well, and this is 444 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: really marketed at the athlete, right. So it's got compared 445 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: to the normal yopro range, which is about fifteen grams 446 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: of protein, this has got an additional five grams. It's 447 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: got twenty grams of protein per tub. It's got added BCAS, 448 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: which we know is our branch chain amino acid. It's 449 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: got some added probotics as well. But the reason I 450 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: use in isn't more for my athletic clients for some sure, 451 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: but the majority of time, I'm using this to really 452 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: bumper up my client's calcium intake, because one serving, which 453 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: is one hundred and seventy five grams in little tubs, 454 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: has four hundred and forty milligrams of calcium. That is 455 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: the as far as I'm aware, that is the highest 456 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: retail food product on the market in terms of calcium. 457 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: That's higher than a glass of milk. It's higher than 458 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: anything else on the market. Zuozi four hundred and forty 459 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: milligrams for more, tub of yogurt is insane. For an example, 460 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: a standard tub of yogurt, if you're choosing any brand 461 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: Greek yogurt, normal yogurt, or range between about watsuzi one 462 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: fifty two hundred milligrams. That's kind of the standard amount 463 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: of calcium. 464 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: In a yogurt maxim yeah, maximum two hundred. I would 465 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: say some of the little ones, those little kind of 466 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: half tubs have got about one hundred one twenty five usually, 467 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's right. 468 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe one to two hundred mac. So to 469 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: get four forty milligrams of calcium out of a single 470 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: tub of yogurt with twenty grams of protein because we 471 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: know in the age group that needs more calcium, that 472 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: age group also needs more protein because we tend to 473 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: lose our muscle mass. Most people aren't doing enough weight 474 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: training to support that muscle volume metabolically and for that 475 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: bone house, we want that extra protein and we absolutely 476 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: need that extra calcium. So it's a product that I'm 477 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: using quite strategically. So as I mentioned, it's the Yoproperform 478 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: range one hundred and seventy five grands. There's a couple 479 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: of different flavors. There's a mixed berry. I think there's 480 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a banana and a mango off the top of my head, 481 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: So today we're going to go through the mixed berry. 482 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: It's found at coals and wool worse, they are that 483 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: little bit more expensive. But again it is that real 484 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: particular product that we're recommending for a particular type of client. 485 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: It's not for everybody. I don't I don't routinely put 486 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: my clients on it just because it's got a couple 487 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: of extra grams of protein in there. It's really only 488 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: if they need that high calcium amount. So ingredient wise, 489 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: it has milk, milk powder, concentrate way powder concentrates, so 490 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: that's how they're buffering up the protein and the calcium 491 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: in there. They're using a real mix of concentrated milk 492 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: proteins in there. Then it's followed by cream mixed berries 493 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: azero point five percent. It's got some apple pure and 494 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: some thickness, some lemon pulp, some live yogurt cultures, natural flavor, 495 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: natural color, sweetener being steavier, salt, and some milk minerals, 496 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: so they're also adding some extra minerals and calcium in 497 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: there as well. So per serving, per one seventy five 498 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: gram tub, five hundred kilogules, which is roughly about one 499 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty calories, so very lean calorie wise for 500 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: how much protein can you're getting, it's insane really, twenty 501 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: point one grams of protein with nearly four grams of 502 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: branch channel A minium acids in there as well. So 503 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: a great little post workout option as well. And I 504 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: think that's what they're really trying to market that ad 505 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: as like a post workout kind of snack at that 506 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: athletic population. But as I said, I use it more 507 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: for my menopausal pause or ladies who also better for it. 508 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: Than the added protein, so it's kind of a win 509 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: win fat wise, very low in fat, one point two 510 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: grams of fat with only point seven of that being saturated, 511 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: six point eight grams of carbohydrate, Very low in carbohydrate 512 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: as well, with six grams of total sugar, ninety one 513 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: milligrams of sodium, and are whopping four hundred and forty 514 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: milligrams of calcium, which is just enormous. And then I'm 515 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: just trying to see if that is gluten free as well, Susie. 516 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: There's no mention of processing or anything. It just says 517 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: contains milk, so I think that looks safe for ours 518 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: Celiac as well. But as always, if you do have 519 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: celiax dicas, you need to be very careful and always 520 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: reading your labels. Even if as product is safe, you 521 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: need to just be checking that couple of months because 522 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: sometimes they change where the products are made in the 523 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: processing lines. So yeah, I just think an outstanding product 524 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: over all. It tastes really good. I've I've bought quite 525 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: a few of them myself for a post workout little snack, 526 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: and I really can't fault it. It is a little bit 527 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: runnier than the standard Yo pros the standard Joe pros 528 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: and even the Chibani fit range we quite like as well. 529 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: They're very thick. This is a bit runner, I think, 530 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: because of all the added milk powders and the calcium, 531 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: but still a really really functional product to use. 532 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: Have we China, Well, I sort of when it first 533 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: came out, I was like, oh, well, the general Yo 534 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Pro's pretty good, so I've sort of kept my clients 535 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: on that, and I really quite like the pouches for 536 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: busy women. But when you told me this that the retreat, 537 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I had no idea that there was 538 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: such a huge amount of calcium in there, and I 539 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 2: find thirteen hundred milligrams for postmenopausal women really difficult because 540 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want them having three milk coffees per day. 541 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 2: So this is a fantastic product. I will now use 542 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: it a lot more because you've told me about it. 543 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: Because with that, say, between a coffee a serve of cheese, 544 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: which most people are very happy to have, and that 545 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: they're right up there around one thousand. So yeah, great find, 546 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: and I will recommend it a whole lot more because 547 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: of that. And that's where functional foods can actually be 548 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: really really helpful in reaching nutrient goals and just being aware, 549 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: and some I think brands don't market aggressively on that. 550 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: Like as I said, no one told me that unless 551 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: you had, so I haven't had any comms from Yopa 552 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: to tell us that that's in there. So yeah, I 553 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: think it's fantastic. So it's a very good choice for 554 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: women in general or anyone who perhaps isn't a milk 555 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: drinker but doesn't mind yogurt, because I think that's the issue, 556 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: isn't it if you're not a milk person, and it 557 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: really is difficult to get the amounts that you need. 558 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: So if you do enjoy yogat, it's great. Because people 559 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: often say to me, can I have two yogats a day? 560 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: And I'll say, yeah, I don't have a problem. It's 561 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: more if you try and get food variety in. But 562 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: there's actually no issue with having a couple of yogurts. 563 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: It's low calorie, it's naturally in general not much sugar, 564 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, you could, if you're a yogat person, you 565 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: could definitely have two serves a day and really get 566 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: right up there with calcium. 567 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And I will also say because a lot 568 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: of people will write into us on Instagram and say, oh, 569 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned this product. I just want to 570 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: know if that was sponsored, and absolutely not. Susie and 571 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: I will always be very very clear if a segment 572 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: is sponsored or a product is sponsored, we will always 573 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: be the first to just close that. So this segment 574 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: where we review products, it's completely not biased at all. 575 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: Susie and I just find great products in the supermarket. 576 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time we review really good products. 577 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Occasionally we find things and we go we don't like 578 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: that at all, and you'll see a negative from a 579 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: promise as well. But in this instance, always unless we 580 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: say so, it is not sponsored. It is just something 581 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: that we've found in the supermarket. I use it regularly 582 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: for my clients. I was quite shocked that other people 583 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: didn't realize how much calcium is it. As Susie said, 584 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: they don't really promote it. They promote it more from 585 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: an athletic perspective. But I've been using it for my 586 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: fifty plus ladies for basically a year since it came out. 587 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Now it's such such a great product and fine, So 588 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: we will always be open and honest with you guys. 589 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Our listeners mean the world to us, and if we 590 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: do occasionally have some sponsored segments, we will let you 591 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: know that as well. So we really do appreciate just 592 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: writing it and asking U is that, But the reality 593 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: is that we will always say that We'll never know 594 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: hide that from you guys. This is just generally a 595 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: great product that we found in the supermarket that we 596 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: think will benefit so many of our listeners. 597 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: All right, then, well, for our last segment of the day, 598 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: it's our listener question and it came to my mind 599 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: this week. This is more of a personal experience because 600 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: my boys are at that age they're eight and a 601 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 2: half where a lot of kids around them are starting 602 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: to have bone fractures. And I'm finding it really interesting 603 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: observing that because you know, I always think, oh, if 604 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: the child's had a few fractures in a short period 605 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: of time, I'm thinking, oh, what's going on with their 606 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: bone health? So I think it's a good conversation for 607 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: mums of any growing children to take a look at 608 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: some of their key nutrient intakes and what do you 609 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: do from a calcium perspective if your child is not 610 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: a big milk drinker. So it's not unrelated to our 611 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: product discussion, because it's very common to have kids who 612 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: aren't biggest milk drinkers one hundred percent for a whole 613 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: range of reasons. They might not like the taste, they 614 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: might not have been exposed to it. And as a 615 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: parent of young children, if your child doesn't drink milk, 616 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: it is going to be very difficult to reach the 617 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: calcium requirements, which is crucial for bone development and bone 618 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: health long term through the ages. So what I would 619 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: first of all say is that if there is no 620 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: milk at all going in, hopefully they at least like 621 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: cheese and yogurt, and you would be wanting at least 622 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: three serves a day of those foods. So that might 623 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: be yoga in the morning, it might be yogurt at school, 624 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: and cheese at school. But I do also use with 625 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: this group leand more functional products like up and Go. Now, 626 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: if you said to me, is up and Go a 627 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: good choice? I would be like, Oh, it's pretty process. 628 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: It's got a lot of added sugar, but nutritionally for 629 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: kids who are on the fussy side or who won't, 630 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: for example, drink plain milk or yogurt, it can be 631 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: a really smart, functional food because it's got three hundred 632 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: milligams of calcium in it. It's so leanne got vitamin 633 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: D because one of the issues with young children in 634 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: Australia is that they're covered up all the time, and 635 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: what is important for bone health is not only calcium 636 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: but vitamin D. So if you've got a very fair 637 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: skin child who's always covered because you're petrified of them 638 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: getting burnt, it's quite possible they're not getting enough vitamin D, 639 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: which is a real issue functionally because it will be 640 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: affecting bone health and an number of other disease risks 641 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: through the ages. So I'm certainly not saying go out 642 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: and get your kid burnt each week, but I'm saying 643 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: be mindful that if your small child is always covered, 644 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: and you've got a very fair skin child, as I've 645 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: got one who's very fair, and we're so petrified of 646 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: them getting burnt, we cover them and you've got to 647 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: make sure they're getting their vitamin D. And the benefit 648 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: of up and Go is it also contains some vitamin D. 649 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: So if they you know, as I said, flatly, refuse milk. 650 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: That's a really functional product. The other functional product that 651 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: again I wouldn't routinely recommend for children is things like 652 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Milo and I think even ovaltine, because again, I think 653 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: that they're fortified with a number of those key nutrients, 654 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: so you get that extra boost. I'm having a very 655 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: quick look now, I should have done it before I 656 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: logged on, because yeah, there is also vitamin D in 657 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: small amounts in Milo. And sometimes you'll have a child 658 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: who won't consume milk, but they might have it with 659 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: a bit of Milo, or they might have it on 660 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: ice cream, and that's a really other nice way for 661 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: them to get a little bit. Now I'm keep in 662 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: mind the way I'm using this. I'm not saying it's 663 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: great for kids to drink up and go and Milo. 664 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying that if you have a very fussy child 665 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: and you're worried about their calcium intake because they're probably 666 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: not eating tuna with bones in it, these can be 667 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: really functional foods that you can use to increase their intake. 668 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: Because we can always go back to supplementation, but it's 669 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: never as good as having the nutrients in their natural 670 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: form in food because the synergistic effect of different nutrients 671 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: they absorb better in whole food. And yeah, I'm just 672 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: having a look. Ovaltine also has in it vitamin D 673 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: and also some calcium and iron added. So there can 674 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: you think of any but just off the top of 675 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: my head, there are three sort of functional super foods 676 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: I would use in the diets of children who are 677 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: either fussy or perhaps not getting enough sunlight. Sash calcium 678 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: to ensure optimal bone health. 679 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that if it's milk in general, 680 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: like if the family I don't know, it might be 681 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: plant based, or the kid has a cow'smalk protein allergy 682 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: and won't drink milk at all, or like it's fair 683 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: enough if they're fussy, but if they just if the 684 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: milk is just not an option using your plant based milks, 685 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: but you need to ensure that they've got three hundred 686 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: milligrams of calcium as serve. So smoothie is a really 687 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: great idea. One of my friend's kid has a COLISMUK 688 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: protein allergy and can't have any and so we have 689 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: him on a fortified I think he takes a fortified 690 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: oat milk with three hundred grams And I said to 691 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: my friend, make sure you're adding in things to that 692 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: smoothie to make it taste really good, so he's enjoying it. 693 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: He has one a day, other makes it as a 694 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: breakfast or a snack. I said, cheer seeds are actually 695 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: pretty good in terms of calcium. Two tablespoons of cheer 696 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: seeds provide nearly two hundred milligrams of calcium. But if 697 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about a small child or a baby, that's 698 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: way too much, way too much fiber. It's going to 699 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: all comes fround that nap. It's not going to be 700 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: a fun time. So just start with sort of like 701 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon max. But two tablespoons for 702 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: an adult is okay, but for a child's probably far 703 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: too much fiber. It's not going to be very fun. 704 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: But also in terms of using a good fortified plant 705 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: based milk and some cheer siage, you can use something 706 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: like almond butter. A cup of almonds contains nearly four 707 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: hundred milligrams of calcium. But no small child's gonna eat 708 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: a cup of almonds. So actually, just utilizing all of 709 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: these little things together in your diet and regularly focus 710 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: on things like almond butter instead of peanut butter. Dried 711 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: figs actually also have quite a lot of calcium, So 712 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: you can throw a handful of dried figs into a 713 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: smoothie or they can have a little bit of dried 714 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: figs is a snack. About six to eight dried figs 715 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: provide nearly two hundred and fifty milligrams of calcium. All 716 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: of your beans and legum, so I know, particularly for 717 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: older kids, beans and legumes are a fussy one, like 718 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: if you haven't really raised your kids to have a 719 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: lot of beans and legumes, it can be really hard. 720 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: But things like white beans, black beans and a mama 721 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: beans are really high and plant based calcium as well, 722 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: so where you can try to get them onto beans 723 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: and legumes, and even if it is in the dried 724 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: flavored form like you know our flavored father beans or 725 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: you know roasted chickpeas with a bit of flavoring on 726 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: them as well. The Happy Snack Company do these kid ones. 727 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: They're the Father Beans, a pizza flavor. I think me 728 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: eat them sometimes. They're pretty good as well. So any 729 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: sort of bean and legum is really good. And one 730 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: of our favorite ones which we recommend to our non 731 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: dairy based ladies is unhold tarhini, so that is really 732 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: really high calcium unhold tarhini, but from a flavor preference, 733 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: a child is not gonna want to eat that. So again, 734 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: adding something like that into a smoothie with some beautiful 735 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: frozen mango berries, maybe a little bit of honey and 736 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: some plant based milk and some unhold tarhini is a 737 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: really good way to get in quite a lot of 738 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: calcium into a small child or a child's diet as well. 739 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: So just being really conscious of a lot of these 740 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: things and trying to use little amounts of them throughout 741 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: the day, because kids aren't going to chow down a 742 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: couple of white beans, two tablespoons of cheer seas, a 743 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: couple of tablespoons and unhold tahini. You have to be 744 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: really smart about how you're utilizing these things, or mixing 745 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of unhaltahini with a little bit of 746 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: honey with a little bit of peanut butter to kind 747 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: of buffer the taste of it, because it is it 748 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: is not really a great taste or something that a 749 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: child is actively going to enjoy, I don't think, so 750 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: being smart with how you use them, but using them 751 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: regularly as well. Another one is calcium set tofu is 752 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: really quite high in calcium, but really look for a 753 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: brand that is calcium set as well, and there's one 754 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: or two brands available at Coals and Wolworst. And again, 755 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: small children are probably not going to eat calcium unless 756 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: they've grown up, whether it's really culturally you know, known 757 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: food and they see it a lot. But you can 758 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: use a little bit of tofu and blend it into 759 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: a smoothie again where not a huge amount, but a 760 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: small amount of calcium set tofu, which again is a 761 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: smart way to boost up you know, the calcium intake 762 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: in a child's start who just doesn't really have all 763 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: or want a bar of dairy. 764 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: You just will take any opportunity to stick tofu in 765 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: like it's a question about kids calcium, Like, I don't 766 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: know how you got into tofu in a smoothie like 767 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: that is a long shot. I was going to say, 768 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 2: make a Milo weep big slice, because then the Milo's 769 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: got vitamin D and calcium in it, not tofu in 770 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: a smoothie. I can't apologize to listeners. I need to 771 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: speak to her about a tofa addiction. But I think 772 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: go back to the ovaltine Milo of the children. 773 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: Milo. 774 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: If you've got it, because I think it can be 775 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: a very functional food. The question was on kids lean kids. 776 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I was for those that can't have dairy at all. 777 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, if anyone has mixed tofu into a smoothie, let 778 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: us know, I'm hugely interested. 779 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to wrap up the podcast today. 780 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: So yes, but also just keep in mind with your kids, 781 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: whether or not, whatever form of calcium they're getting, get 782 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: a little bit of sunlight, because that is one of 783 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: the best ways to ensure that they're getting the vitamin 784 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 2: D they need to activate and make sure that the 785 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: bone synthesis it's just not enough to have calcium on 786 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: its own. 787 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. All right, Well that brings us to the 788 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: end of another episode of the Nutution counch. If you 789 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: know that your own needs a little bit of a 790 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: booster in terms of protein, or maybe some delicious hot chocolates. 791 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: If you're an adult, you don't like your milo, maybe 792 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: you want a little bit of a hot chocolate. Check 793 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: out our delicious range of protein powders and hot chocolates 794 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: at design Biadietitians dot com. We have quite a few 795 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: functional products there with some added nutrients in there that 796 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: we know are beneficial to Women's House, So thank you 797 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: for listening and we will catch you in the next 798 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: week's episode. 799 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: Have a great week.