1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: If you saw a spinach wrap, would you think that 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: it was healthier? What about some veggie based chips? There 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: are tons of supermarket foods that appear to be healthier, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: but on closer inspection, this may not always be the case. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Nutrition Couch, we share some 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: of the worst healthy masquerades that we've found in the supermarket. Hi, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm Leanne Maud and I'm Cidey Burrow, and together we 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you up to date on everything that you need to 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: know in the world of nutrition, as well as healthy 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: foods disguised as other things. Today we chat about the 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: increasing number of people presenting with nutrient deficiencies post extreme 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: diets and weight loss surgery. We've also found a yogurt 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: that is particularly high in calcium, and our listener question 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: is all about kids and bone help. So to kick 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: us off today, Zuzie, I'll start off with I did 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of real on TikTok a couple of 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: weeks ago now and I found these Should I name 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: the brand? These wraps are my lade to name the brand? 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Maybe not? I found these spinach wraps on the market 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and they were green, and I picked them up and 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: I thought, interesting, as you do as a dietitian, you 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: think green wrap must be healthier. And I had in 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: big letters across the front of the pack spinach wraps 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: and they're on sale, and I thought, forty percent off. 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty good, right, And then right next to them 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: were the sweet potato wraps, and I thought, well, that's 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: interesting because I could see how a lot of people 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: who perhaps were trying to reduce the amount of maybe 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: they had in their diet, or just perceived as a 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: sweet potato wrappers potentially with healthier a lot of people 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: would be buying them. And I thought, I'm really interested 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: to see the percentage of spinach and sweet potato in 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: these wraps. Lo and behold SUSI. I turned them over 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: and the spinach once and I kid you not, I 36 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: nearly dropped the packet. I was so shocked. I knew 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be high because as dietitians were trained 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: to really analyze the marketing and the food labeling, but 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: even I was shocked, and that doesn't. 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: Happen very often these days. 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Those wraps had one percent spinach of them, and I 42 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: was like, is this a joke? How are they so green? 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: And so they obviously had they said natural color in 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: them to give them the green appeal in the effect, 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: and the sweet potato ones would know real better. They 46 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: were two point five percent, I think from memory, and 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I just thought this is shocking. How are they even 48 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: allowed to advertise something as contained spinach with one percent 49 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: and the amount of people that would pick that up 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: thinking that that is absolutely a healthy alternative, or think 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to give that to my fussy kid so 52 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: that they don't have to eat their vegetables, and I 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: just think that's not a replacement for eating vegetables. I 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: would rather my client had a better multi grain wrap 55 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: with some visible whole grains in there, because the reality 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: is that spinach wrap was still a white refined rap 57 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: with one percent spinach, a bit of green, I don't know, 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: natural coloring or whatever, and it was still just a 59 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: white refined wrap. I would probably I would much rather 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: my clients had a better quality, nutritious whole grain wrapp 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: or even a couple of slices of dense whole grain 62 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: bread added a ton of spinach onto it along with 63 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: some other lovely veggies like some grated carrots, some grated 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: beetood and a bit of lean protein and really built 65 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: a balance wrap or sandwich with that rather than buying 66 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: those wraps even if they were you know, on sale, 67 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: the home brand varieties, you know, the nice multi grain 68 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: ones were still you know, a bit cheaper, a bit 69 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: more budget friendly. So I just it was a good discussion. 70 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: There's quite a few products in the supermarket that kind 71 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: of mask as healthier products, and I think if we're 72 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: not smart, and we're not we don't take the time 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: to read our food labels, it can be very easy 74 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: to be conn into buying something that we think, oh, 75 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: this is going to give me that little bit of 76 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: a boost, or you know, I don't really love my veggies, 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: I'll choose this getting a really nice veggie based wrap in. 78 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: But the reality is that one percent is not even 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: going to make a little blip on the radar in 80 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: terms of how many vegetables and salad you really need 81 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: to be eating. Is it? 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: No? And I noticed it actually. First of all, your 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: video was hilarious. It pops up on my social media 84 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: and I strongly encourage you to go and check it 85 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: out on lands TikTok, or Instagram when. 86 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: She was horrified about the wrap. 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: Finding, she was it's worth watching. And I think that 88 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: when we had closer Lukian that it actually had color, 89 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: it had chlorophyll in it didn't that to give it 90 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: the green to make a green costs the spinach. I'd 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: noticed it when I was doing a crispbread review because 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: I knew that there was sort of a couple of 93 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: new products in supermarkets to replace a Lina And one 94 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: of the ones is Splits, the Splits range, which is 95 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: stocked in coals, and they're actually got vegetable names. So 96 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: there's like pumpkin, carrot, and when you have a closer look, 97 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: one of them's got like three percent carrot powder. This 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: one I'm looking at, it's got dried pumpkin three percent. 99 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: Like that is not vegetable, you know, like a bit 100 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: of vegetable powder is not the same, particularly in a 101 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: really refined product where you're getting no nutrition. And I 102 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: think in the case of raps, for example, wraps are 103 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: are highly processed. Definitely, bread is a less processed product. 104 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: I think raps really masquerade is being healthy, but it 105 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: takes a lot of processing to create that consistency and texture, 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: and you'll notice that wraps you can keep for a 107 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: really long time as well. So again nutritionally not superior, 108 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: but when you're sort of associated with vegetables, they get 109 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 3: that feeling. 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: And the same with these crisp bread. 111 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: But these chrisp bread are so ultra pro like the 112 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: base is rice, which is highly refined. It's not brown rice, 113 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: and as such, there's very little fiber in them and 114 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 3: they barely feel you. But they've all got vegetable names. 115 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: I see it then, I do see it in some 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: of the sort of snacks. Now we're not talking about 117 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: some of the veggie chips, which are clearly like vegetables, 118 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: Like you can literally see the slice of beet tread 119 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: in the packet. That's not the one we're talking about. 120 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: We're talking about the ones that are more like the 121 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: extruded kind of snacks that look nothing like a vegetable, 122 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: and often they don't have a whole lot of vegetable 123 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: in them. I think those some of those pea snap 124 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: ones as well, they've got a little bit, but they're 125 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: I've just looked at the veggie straws actually because I 126 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: thought they would be a bit dodged, but they're actually 127 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: got quite a high vegetable percentage. They are still ultra processed. 128 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: There's still ultra process because you're right, but they actually 129 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: do have quite a high vegetable content. So it's kind 130 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: of in that gray area. But some of the sort 131 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: of ones that we've spoken about before that i've got 132 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: MSG added, they don't have a whole lot. And I 133 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: also think looking back to some kids products, I remember 134 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: in the kids section, you might be more aware of 135 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: this than I because your kids at that age that 136 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: there's a few like chip type products for kids, like 137 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: popped things, and they've got like a little bit of vegetable, 138 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: but when you look it's very very small, so you 139 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: don't have to do it a scan. 140 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kids is I remember Hindes have a good one. 141 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: I think it was like tomato and lentil. There are 142 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: some definitely some better ones, but have a scan because 143 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I think they've gone off the market now because there 144 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of controversy around them. This was a 145 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: few years ago before I even had my kids. I 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: remember from a memory it was something like I think 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: they were like the veggie the fruit straps, like almost 148 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: not roll ups, but kind of a similar thing, right, 149 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: But they were trying to be a bit healthier, and 150 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: they were saying that they're like fruit and veggie straps basically, 151 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and I remember from memory they were like eighty percent 152 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: ninety percent fruit, like they were basically all sugar, even 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: though it was natural and it was fruit, and it 154 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: was like one percent vegetable powder. And again I think 155 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: there was actually from memory, like a bit of a 156 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: legal case or something. I'll have to look it up 157 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: and go back, but I remember I think they got 158 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: pulled off the market soon after because they weren't actually 159 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: allowed to say maybe it wasn't even one percent, maybe 160 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: it was even less than one percent vegetable in them, 161 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: but they were calling them like, you know, strawberry and 162 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: beech root, or they were calling them zucchini and blueberry 163 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: or something. But it was like heavy sugar. It was 164 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: added sugar. Like they just shouldn't have been anywhere near 165 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: the Kid's aisle basically, And I don't think they even 166 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: really exist anymore, but I have seen similar things pop 167 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: up in there, like in the music bar Aile recently 168 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: because Mia saw something and I think it had Elsa 169 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: on the front and she's going through her Elsie ear 170 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: at the moment, and the other one had Spider Man 171 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, those and I was like, absolutely not. 172 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: They were basically just like the roll ups, but they 173 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: said you know, a bit of kind of fruit and 174 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: bench on the front of it. But they were still 175 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: really hardh sugar, like over ten grams from memory. So 176 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: I think it's just an important recap to always be 177 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: reading our food labels and always just be that a 178 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: little bit aware and not get sucked into the front 179 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: of pack marketing, because really, brands can say anything, can't they. 180 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: And a lot of times brands get around it by 181 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: what they call the name, like they might say, you know, 182 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: veggie Field or something, but I think they can just 183 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: say that right, or they can say I remember the 184 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: years ago, there was a brand of shampoo called I 185 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: can't remember the name, but it sounded like organic, like 186 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: it had the last couple of letters were changed, but 187 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't organic at all, and it was just this 188 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: huge marketing thing where the brand didn't use organic products, 189 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: but the actual name of the brand kind of sounded 190 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: like that, so everybody naturally made the assumption. So I 191 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: think it's just a really important reminder not to really 192 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: pay too much attention to the front of pack marketing 193 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: and really turn that over and look at the nutrition ingredients, 194 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: look at the nutritional information panel, and really make sure 195 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: if you're buying that as a better product to kind 196 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: of boost the veggie intake in your diet or your 197 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: kid's dit, it actually has a decent amount. And by 198 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: decent amount, I would say at least over ten percent, 199 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't you. 200 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've just found another one, organic carrot puff 201 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: So these are in the kids section over seven months old. 202 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: The ingredient organic cornflower seventy seven percent, organic sunflower or 203 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: rape seed oil, and then organic carrot powder ten percent. 204 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: But to me, it's it's just a powder form. You're 205 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: not getting any dietary fiber, So it's masquerading because that's 206 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: ultimately a highly processed food for kids that offers no 207 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: dietary fiber. 208 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: But it's got. 209 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: Carrot written all over it, so you'd be thinking it's 210 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: healthy where it's really it's just puff corn. It's not 211 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: that much better than a puff corn chip really, So yeah, 212 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: you do have to be careful. But if I saw 213 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: a powder added, I don't count that as a vegetable. 214 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 3: That's not the same thing, because nutritionally from a vegetable 215 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: you're getting vitamins and minerals which is in the whole 216 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: form of the food, and dietary fiber and a powder. 217 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: You're just getting a refined form and giving it the color. 218 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: So yeah, as soon as you see that, I'd be 219 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: a little bit bit suspicious. So again, if you see 220 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: a spinach wraps, probably. 221 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: Not that great comber. 222 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: Alright, you actually mentioned this to me a few weeks 223 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: ago and you said that you had come across a 224 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: case of clinical scurvy. Now, for those of you who 225 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: are thinking, oh, I've heard that word before, I want 226 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: you to think back to your time at school when 227 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: you were thinking about and learning about Captain Cook and 228 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: when the first fleet first came out to Australia, and 229 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: of course a lot of the people on the boat 230 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: suffered for scurvy, which was the clinical nutrient deficiency of 231 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: vitamin C that we get from fresh food. And of course, 232 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: in the olden days, when we were on boats for 233 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: months at a time, the amounts of fresh food were 234 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: very very light on and over time people could develop 235 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: vitamin seed deficiency. Now it is very very rare to 236 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: see that in Australia. I've never heard or seen of it, 237 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: but just by chance on my news feed it popped 238 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: up that there had been another clinical case reported from 239 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: a person who'd been post gastric sleeve surgery or gastric 240 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: band surgery, and you and I were just having a 241 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: little discussion about it. And it doesn't surprise me because 242 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: one of the secondary effects of weight loss surgery at 243 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: the extreme, whether it's a gastric bypass or sleeve where 244 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: people's food intake is severely restricted, or also more recently 245 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: where people are using semiglue tides like ozen peak and 246 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 3: more govy for those who are very strict with their 247 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: diet or have severe limitation physically, as in the case 248 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: with gastric surgeries, and the first foods to often go 249 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: from the menu are fresh whole foods. So in the 250 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: case of gastric surgery, one sort of soft food tends 251 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: to go down better, or there's a real focus on 252 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: getting enough protein, and if you can't eat a lot 253 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: and you're getting your protein, there's not that much room 254 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: for salad and vegetables left, or the same in the 255 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: case of GLP or semaglue tides where you've got severely 256 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: limited appetite and you're really focused on protein rich foods, 257 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of room necessarily for a large 258 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: salad or if that's not your natural preference. It's very 259 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: easy to say, have you know, an egg for breakfast 260 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: or yogurt, mash tuna and rice for lunch, Like if 261 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: you're not really onto it, over time, you can absolutely, 262 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: and we're seeing it more and more because of these 263 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: more extreme diets. So we just thought always an interesting 264 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 3: discussion about the importance you know, nutrition and food. It's 265 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: not just about diet and weight control. It's actually about 266 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: getting key nutrients we need for optimal function. And just 267 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: fresh back from our retreat, you know, we saw several 268 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: of our ten ds with nutrient deficiencies, even though they're 269 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: pretty healthy bunts, you know, listening to the nutrition couch 270 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: and having a firm, interesting nutrition and even then with 271 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: modern day pressures on life and food often eaten on 272 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: the run, you know, it does happen. And vitamin see 273 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: can be at risk if you're limiting fresh food, particularly 274 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: fruits and veggies in the diet. 275 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'll go back to the story which I 276 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: was telling you. I think it was a couple of 277 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: weeks ago. But this actually happened years ago, back when 278 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: I was still a clinical dietitian back at one of 279 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: the Brisbane hospitals. And that time, you used to sit 280 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: in clinic and you go through your referrals that morning, 281 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: and the doctors were just right on the top of 282 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: the referral like why they've preferred the client. Because in 283 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: that dietitian clinic, we took a lot of referrals from 284 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: doctors and I typically see stuff like, you know, newly 285 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: diagnosed celiac. I might see weight loss and you know, 286 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: blood sugar management for poorly controlled diabetes. And this one 287 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: day I picked up a referral form and it said 288 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: scurvy with a couple of exclamation points next to it, 289 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: and I went, no, they're kidding, like scavy. No, I've 290 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: never seen that. I've been practicing for over a decade 291 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and I've never seen scurvy. And you just said, Susan, 292 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you've never seen a clinical diagnosis and scurvy and you're 293 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: an entire practice as well, And I thought, surely this 294 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: is not right right, Surely they made a mistake. And 295 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: the one and behold, this lady came in and she yeah, 296 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: she had scurvy. She had all of the symptoms. So 297 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: from a symptom based perspective, some of the signs of 298 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: a very severe vitamin seed deficiency that would lead to 299 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: scurvy are things like bleeding, gums, wobbly toothed, like a 300 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of issues were dental, really poor wound healing. She 301 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: had these little red spots and stuff all up her 302 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: arms and they just wouldn't heal. Anemia, fatigue, black circles 303 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: under your eyes, weakness and fatigue. So there's some of 304 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: the big signs, and obviously they're not just signs of scurvy. 305 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: They can be signs of a range of other things, 306 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: including simple things like malnutrition and other types of vitamin 307 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and mineral deficiencies as well. And when it came down 308 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: to it, we did a full diet review because I 309 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: was like, how was you know, a woman in this 310 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: day and age, living in Australia, we have good access 311 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: to food and fresh food, how does this happen? And 312 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: the crux of it was Susie that she was following 313 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: such a restrictive keutogenic diet for the last two years 314 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: that she had not allowed herself a piece of fruit 315 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: or juice or nothing with fruit in it for years, 316 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: and the only vegetables she allowed herself to eat were 317 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: the green ones. So we do know that some of 318 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: our veggies have vitamin C in them as well, things 319 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: like capsigerm and tomato. She didn't do any colors but green, 320 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: and even then she would weigh the amount of green 321 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: vegetables because she was so worried about the carb content 322 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: and that kicking her out of katosis. Basically, so this 323 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: ketogenic diet that she was using for you know, weight 324 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: loss and and health had actually done the opposite effect 325 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: and created malnutrition and scurvy in her. So we basically 326 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: slowly just took her off that and slowly started to 327 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: reintroduce carbohydrates and some fresh foods and some better quality 328 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: vegetables and more diversity into her diet. But it can 329 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: take a really long time to reverse in people as well. 330 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: But it's just crazy to be seeing these types of 331 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: things in this day and age. But it really does 332 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: come down to overly restricted diets. Sometimes it's intentional, other 333 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: times it's not. You might have you know, some quite 334 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: severe malabsorption medical issues going on where your body's just 335 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: not able to absorb some nenutrients. You may have had 336 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: some big surgery like Susie mentioned for potentially weight loss, 337 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: and you're simply just not able to eat the required amount, 338 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: volume or texture of foods to get the nutrition or 339 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: volume in. And you know, even post a lot of 340 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: these big barometric type surgeries, you're supposed to take essentially 341 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: multivitamins for life. And what I used to see when 342 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: I was doing the bario to clinics as well is 343 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people just couldn't tolerate them because they 344 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: were massive tablets and they just couldn't get them down, 345 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and they had so many symptoms like nausea in volmenting 346 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: post surgery that they were really really struggling. So we 347 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: saw so much malnutrition in those clinics, and it was 348 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: awful because you know, people were like, oh, I've lost 349 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: thirty kilos, this is so amazing, but at the same 350 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: time they felt so crap because they couldn't get in 351 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: the required amounts of nutrition. So I think it's just 352 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: another really good example where balanced eating always trumps, doesn't it, 353 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Like we always come back to good quality, balanced eating, 354 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: fresh foods. If the diet that you're following is not 355 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: maintainable for life. If it's creating nutrient deficiencies, it's probably 356 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: not something that's actually really healthy for you. Were probably 357 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: not something you can do long term or should do 358 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: long term. 359 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Even I think that fruit gets a bit of a 360 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: beating because we're so focused and even myself on people 361 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: getting enough vegetables. So really, and I think there's that 362 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: belief out there that green vegetables are so superior nutritionally, 363 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: and indeed they do have a number of key nutrient 364 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: properties which make them a super food, particularly for cell 365 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: health and anti cancer action. 366 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: But the orange and. 367 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Red group to the sweet potato, red capsicum tomato, as 368 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: you said, also very very rich in antioxidants, even though 369 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: they may have a higher carbohydrate content in the case 370 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: of something like sweet potato. But certainly with fruit, I 371 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: think you're either a fruit eater or you're note. So 372 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: my fruit eaters are like so happy right now because 373 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: it's coming into stone fruit season and they're like, oh 374 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: my god, how much can I cram in? You know, 375 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: the beautiful apricots and peaches and nectarines which are so 376 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: nutrient rich and very high in vitamin C, so such 377 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: beautiful skin and so good for us. But then you 378 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: have people who don't eat a lot of fruit at all. 379 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: You know, they'll struggle to even get a piece in 380 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: per day. For me, that's the ones who are at 381 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: risk off for the constipation because they're not getting that beautiful 382 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: soluble fiber from things like apples, oranges and then stone fruits. 383 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: So if you know yourself you're not a big fruit eater, 384 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: it is important that you're getting I would say at 385 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: least one piece a day, and ideally of something vitamin 386 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: sea rich. So things like your berries are great, particularly 387 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: you can add them to smoothies or to yogurt. Coming 388 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: into stone fruit season another great option keyway fruit not 389 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: in season now, but very nutrient rich. You know, really 390 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: make a concerted effort to try and get at least 391 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: one piece of fresh food and that will go a 392 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: long way and ticking the box on your vitamin CEA intake. 393 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 3: But for anyone listening who has had gastric bypass or 394 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 3: slave surgery in the past, or is taking that a 395 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: new range of ozen peak we govy and know that 396 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: your intake has significantly reduced in the short term, this 397 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: would absolutely be a group I would suggest a general 398 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: multi vitamin because when your intake's significantly reduced for whatever reason, 399 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: you might be unwell, you might be having some sort 400 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: of treatment, you might not be able to eat very 401 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: much because of a throat issue, dental issue, or you 402 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 3: may be taking one of these new drugs or physically 403 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: restricted with gastric surgeries. Absolutely, you should be taking a 404 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: women's multi vitamin because at least then in the background 405 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: you're getting that kind of nutrient hit at least every 406 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: second day. And we recently spoke about supplements on the 407 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: podcast and how you and I often take a lot 408 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: of clients of supplements. But in that instance where you 409 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: know your intake is severely reduced, or you may be 410 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: doing a strict diet for a period of time for 411 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: whatever reason, that is a perfect reason to add a 412 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: general multi vitamin to your regime, just to tick the 413 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: box on those key nutrients. 414 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And actually, if you've had barotric surgery, you 415 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: just need to go that one step further because generally 416 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: there are specific multi vitamins that you actually should be taking. 417 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: They have higher amounts of things than just the standard 418 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: multi vitamin that you might pick up the shelf from 419 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: coals or Willlworth or the local pharmacy. So really make 420 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: sure that you're following up with your team, your surgeon, 421 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: your dietisian to ensure that you're getting those higher amounts 422 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: of some of those because depending on the type of 423 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: bariotric surgery, of the type of surge that you've had, 424 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: sometimes that can actually create more malabsorption and more issues 425 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: with different types of nutrients. So really make sure that 426 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: you're taking the appropriate type of multivitem and not just 427 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: a random one that you've found in your local pharmacy 428 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: as well. Moving on to our next section, sushi, talking 429 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: about nutrients, Calcium we harp on about all the time. 430 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: All of our listeners are how important it is, and 431 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: I thought that everybody kind of knew about this, and 432 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: as I was recommending it so often in my retreat, 433 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: we kind of, I think we need to talk about 434 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: this on the podcast because there are so many of 435 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: our ladies who are really into those kind of menopause years. 436 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: And the calcium requirements go from around about one thousand 437 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: milligrams up to thirteen hundred milligrams a day for most 438 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: women over fifty, and that is a heck of a 439 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: lot of calcium. And if you're someone that doesn't really 440 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: drink a lot of tea, your coffee, or just doesn't 441 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: enjoy milk, you're can have a really hard time getting 442 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: that in through diet, a really hard time. So a 443 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: product that I use routinely, or two products that I 444 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: use routinely, one of them will go through today. One 445 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: of them is a John West calcium fortified tuna that's 446 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: particul kill high in calcium because it's got the bones 447 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: in the tuner or mixed in. And the second one 448 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: is the new range of Yopro Perform. So it's in 449 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: a black tub with silver writing saying perform. They do 450 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: tubs and they do the pouches of it as well, 451 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: and this is really marketed at the athlete, right. So 452 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: it's got compared to the normal yopro range, which is 453 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: about fifteen grams of protein, this has got an additional 454 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: five grams, so it's got twenty grams of protein per tub. 455 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: It's got added BCAAs, which we know is our branch 456 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: chain amino acid. It's got some added probotics as well. 457 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: But the reason I use in isn't more for my 458 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: athletic clients. For some sure, but the majority of time, 459 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: I'm using this to really bumper up my client's calcium intake, 460 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: because one serving, which is one hundred and seventy five 461 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: grams in the little tubs, has four hundred and forty 462 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: milligrams of calcium. That is the as far as I'm aware, 463 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: that is the highest retail food product on the market 464 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: in terms of calcium. That's higher than a glass of milk. 465 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: It's higher than anything else on the market. Zuozi four 466 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: hundred and forty milligrams for more, tub of yogurt is insane. 467 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: For an example, a standard tub of yogurt, if you're 468 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: choosing any brand Greek yogurt, normal yogurt, or range between 469 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: about watsuzi one fifty two hundred milligrams. That's kind of 470 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: the standard amount of calcium money. 471 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: Yogurt maxim Yeah, maximum two hundred. 472 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: I would say some of the little ones, those little 473 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: kind of half tubs have got about one hundred one 474 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: twenty five usually, So yeah, that's right. 475 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe one to two hundred mac. So to 476 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: get four forty milligrams of calcium out of a single 477 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: tub of yogurt with twenty grams of protein. Because we 478 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: know in the age group that needs more calcium. That 479 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: age group also needs more protein because we tend to 480 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: lose our muscle mass. Most people aren't doing enough weight 481 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: training to support that muscle volume metabolically and for that 482 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: bone house, we want that extra protein and we absolutely 483 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: need that extra calcium. So it's a product that I'm 484 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: using quite strategically. So as I mentioned, it's the yopro 485 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: Perform range one hundred and seventy five grands. There's a 486 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: couple of different flavors. There's a mixed berry. I think 487 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: there's a banana and a mango off the top of 488 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: my head, So today we're going to go through the 489 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: mixed berry. It's found at coals and wool worse, they 490 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: are that little bit more expensive, But again it is 491 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that real particular product that we're recommending for a particular 492 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: type of client. It's not for everybody. I don't I 493 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: don't routinely put my clients on it just because it's 494 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: got a couple of extra grams of protein in there. 495 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: It's really only they need that high calcium amount. So 496 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: ingredient wise, it has milk, milk powder concentrate, way powder concentrates, 497 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: so that's how they're buffering up the protein and the 498 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: calcium in there. They're using a real mix of concentrated 499 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: milk proteins in there. Then it's followed by cream mixed 500 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: berries atzero point five percent. It's got some apple pure 501 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: and some thickness, some lemon pulp, some live yogurt cultures, 502 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: natural flavor, natural color, sweetener being steavier, salt, and some 503 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: milk minerals, so they're also adding some extra minerals and 504 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: calcium in there as well. So per serving per one 505 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: seventy five gram tub, five hundred kilodeles, which is roughly 506 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty calories, so very lean calorie 507 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: wise for how much protein and cal you're getting. It's 508 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: insane really, twenty point one grams of protein with nearly 509 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: four grams of branch channel A minium acids in there 510 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: as well. So a great little post workout option as well. 511 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: And I think that's what they're really trying to market 512 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: that ad as like a post workout kind of snack 513 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: at that athletic population. But as I said, I use 514 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: it more for my menopa pause or ladies who also 515 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: better for it from the added protein, so it's kind 516 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: of a win win fat wise, very low in fat, 517 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: one point two grams of fat with only point seven 518 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: of that being saturated, six point eight grams of carbohydrate, 519 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: very low in carbohydrate as well, with six grams of 520 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: total sugar, ninety one milligrams of sodium, and are whopping 521 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: four hundred and forty milligrams of calcium, which is just enormous. 522 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm just trying to see if that is 523 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: gluten free as well, Susie. There's no mention of processing 524 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: or anything. It just says contains milk, So I think 525 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: that looks safe for our celiac as well. But as always, 526 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: if you do have CELIAX dicase, you need to be 527 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: very careful and always reading your labels. Even if as 528 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: product is safe, you need to just be checking that 529 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: every couple of months because sometimes they change where the 530 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: products are made in the processing lines. So yeah, I 531 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: just think an outstanding product over all. It tastes really good. Up. 532 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: I've bought quite a few of them myself for a 533 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: post workout little snack, and I really can't fault it. It 534 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit runnier than the standard Yo pros, 535 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: the standard Joe pros, and even the Chivani fit range 536 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: we quite like as well. They're very thick. This is 537 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: a bit runnier, I think because of all the added 538 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: milk powders and the calcium, but still a really really 539 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: functional product to use. 540 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: Have you China, Well, I sort of when it first 541 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 3: came out, I was like, oh, well, the general Yo 542 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: Pro's pretty good, so I've sort of kept my clients 543 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: on that, and I really quite like the pouches for 544 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: busy women. But when you told me this that the retreat, 545 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: I was shocked. I had no idea that there was 546 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: such a huge amount of calcium in there. And I 547 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: find thirteen hundred milligrams for postmanopods and women really difficult 548 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: because I don't necessarily want them having three milk coffees 549 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: per day. So this is a fantastic product. I will 550 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: now use it a lot more because you've told me 551 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: about it, because with that, say, between a coffee, a 552 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 3: serve of cheese, which most people are very happy to have, 553 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: and that they're right up there around one thousand. So yeah, 554 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: great find, and I will recommend it a whole lot 555 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: more because of that. And that's where functional foods can 556 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: actually be really really helpful. In reaching nutrient goals and 557 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: just being aware, and so I don't think brands don't 558 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: market aggressively on that. Like as I said, no one 559 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: told me that unless you had, so I haven't had 560 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: any comms from Yopo to tell us that that's in there. 561 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's fantastic. So it's a very 562 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: good choice for women in general or anyone who perhaps 563 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: isn't a milk drinker but doesn't mind yogurt, because I 564 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: think that's the issue, isn't it if you're not a 565 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: milk person, and it really is difficult to get the 566 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: amounts that you need. So if you do enjoy yogat, 567 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: it's a great Because people often say to me, can 568 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: I have two yogats a day? And I'll say, yeah, 569 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. It's more if you try 570 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: and get food variety in. But there's actually no issue 571 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: with having a couple of yogurts. It's low calorie, it's 572 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: naturally in general not much sugar, So yeah, you could, 573 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: if you're a yogat person, you could definitely have two 574 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: serves a day and really get right up there with calcium. 575 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I will also say because a lot 576 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: of people will write into us on Instagram and say, oh, 577 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: you know you mentioned this product. I just want to 578 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: know if that was sponsored, and absolutely not. Susie and 579 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: I will always be very very clear if a segment 580 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: is sponsored or a product is sponsored, we will always 581 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: be the first to just close that. So this segment 582 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: where we review products, it's completely not BUI used at all. 583 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: Susie and I just find great products in the supermarket. 584 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Ninety percent of the time we review really good products. 585 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: Occasionally we find things and we go we don't like 586 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: that at all, and you'll see a negative promise as well, 587 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: But in this instance, always unless we say so, it 588 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: is not sponsored. It is just something that we've found 589 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: in the supermarket. I use it regularly for my clients. 590 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: I was quite shocked that other people didn't realize how 591 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: much calcium is it. As Susie said, they don't really 592 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: promote it. They promote it more from an athletic perspective. 593 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: But I've been using it for my fifty plus ladies 594 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: for basically a year since it came out. Now it's 595 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: such such a great product and fine, So we will 596 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: always be open and honest with you guys, our listeners. 597 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: Me in the world to us, and if we do 598 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: occasionally have some sponsored segments, we will let you know 599 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: that as well. So we really do appreciate people writing 600 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: it and asking U is that, But the reality is 601 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: that we will always say that We'll never know hide 602 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: that from you guys. This is just generally a great 603 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: product that we found in the supermarket that we think 604 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: will benefit so many of our listeners. 605 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: All right, then and well, for our last segment of 606 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: the day, it's our listener question, And it came to 607 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 3: my mind this week. This is more of a personal 608 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 3: experience because my boys are at that age they're eight 609 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 3: and a half where a lot of kids around them 610 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: are starting to have bone fractures. And I'm finding it 611 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: really interesting observing that because you know, I always think, Oh, 612 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: if the child's had a few fractures in a short 613 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 3: period of time, I'm thinking, oh, what's going on with 614 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: their bone health. So I think it's a good conversation 615 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: for mums of any growing children to take a look 616 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: at some of their key nutrient intakes and what do 617 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: you do from a calcium perspective if your child is 618 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 3: not a big milk drinker. So it's not unrelated to 619 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: our product discussion, because it's very common to have kids 620 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: who aren't biggest milk drinkers one hundred percent for a 621 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 3: whole range of reasons. They might not like the taste, 622 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: they might not have been exposed to it. And as 623 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: a parent of young children, if your child doesn't drink milk, 624 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: it is going to be very difficult to reach the 625 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: calcium requirements, which is crucial for bone development and bone 626 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: health long term through the ages. So what I would 627 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: first of all say is that if there is no 628 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: milk at all going in, hopefully they at least like 629 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: cheese and yogurt, and you would be wanting at least 630 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 3: three serves a day of those foods. So that might 631 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: be yogurt in the morning, it might be yogurt at school, 632 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 3: and cheese at school. But I do also use with 633 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: this group leand more functional products like up and Go. Now, 634 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: if you said to me, is up and Go a 635 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: good choice? I would be like, Oh, it's pretty process. 636 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: It's got a lot of added sugar, but nutritionally for 637 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: kids who are on the fussy side or who won't, 638 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: for example, drink plain milk or yogurt, it can be 639 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: a really smart, functional food because it's got three hundred 640 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: milligams of calcium in it. It's so leanne got vitamin 641 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: D because one of the issues with young children in 642 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: Australia is that they're covered up all the time, and 643 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: what is important for bone health is not only calcium 644 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: but vitamin D. So if you've got a very fair 645 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: skin child who's always covered because you're petrified of them 646 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: getting burnt, it's quite possible they're not getting enough vitamin D, 647 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: which is a real issue functionally because it will be 648 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: affecting bone health and an number of other disease risks 649 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: through the ages. So I'm certainly not saying go out 650 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: and get your kid burnt each week, but I'm saying 651 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: be mindful that if your small child is always covered, 652 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: and you've got a very fair skin child, as I've 653 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: got one who's very fair, and we're so petrified of 654 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: them getting burnt, we cover them and you've got to 655 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 3: make sure they're getting their vitamin D. And the benefit 656 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: of up and Go is it also contains some vitamin D. 657 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: So if they you know, as I said, flatly, refuse milk. 658 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: That's a really functional product. The other functional product that 659 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: again I wouldn't routinely recommend for children is things like 660 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: Milo and I think even ovaltine, because again, I think 661 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: that they're fortified with a number of those key nutrients, 662 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: so you get that extra boost. I'm having a very 663 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: quick look now, I should have done it before I 664 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: logged on, because yeah, there is also vitamin D in 665 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: small amounts in Milo. And sometimes you'll have a child 666 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: who won't consume milk, but they might have it with 667 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: a bit of Milo, or they might have it on 668 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: ice cream, and that's a really other nice way for 669 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: them to get a little bit. Now I'm keep in 670 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 3: mind the way I'm using this. I'm not saying it's 671 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: great for kids to drink up and go and Milo. 672 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying that if you have a very fussy child 673 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: and you're worried about their calcium intake because they're probably 674 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: not eating tuna with bones in it, these can be 675 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 3: really functional foods that you can use to increase their intake. 676 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: Because we can always go back to supplementation, but it's 677 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: never as good as having the nutrients in their natural 678 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: form in food because the synergistic effect of different nutrients 679 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: they absorb better in whole food, And yeah, I'm just 680 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: having a look. Ovaltine also has in it vitamin D 681 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: and also some calcium and iron added. So there can 682 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: you think of any other, But just off the top 683 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: of my head, there are three sort of functional super 684 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: foods I would use in the diets of children who 685 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: are either fussy or perhaps not getting enough sunlight. Sash 686 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: calcium to ensure optimal bone health. 687 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that if it's milk in general, 688 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: like if the family I don't know it might be 689 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: plant based, or the kid has a cow'smalk protein allergy 690 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: and won't drink milk at all, or like, it's fair 691 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: enough if they're fussy, but if they just if the 692 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: milk is just not an option using your plant based milks, 693 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: but you need to ensure that they've got three hundred 694 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: milligrams of calcium as serve. So smoothie is a really 695 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: great idea. One of my friend's kid has a coalsmalk 696 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: protein allergy and can't have any and so we have 697 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: him on a fortified I think he takes a fortified 698 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: oat milk with three hundred grams. And I said to 699 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: my friend, and make sure you're adding in things that 700 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: smoothie to make it taste really good, so he's enjoying it. 701 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: He has one a day, other makes it as a 702 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: breakfast or a snack. I said, cheer seeds are actually 703 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: pretty good in terms of calcium. Two tablespoons of cheer 704 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: seas provide nearly two hundred milligrams of calcium. But if 705 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about a small child or a baby, that's 706 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: way too much, way too much fiber. It's going to 707 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: all comes fround that napp. It's not going to be 708 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: a fun time. So just start with sort of like 709 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon max. But two tablespoons for 710 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: an adult is okay, but for a child is probably 711 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: far too much fiber. It's not going to be very fun. 712 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: But also in terms of using a good fortified plant 713 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: based milk and some cheer siage, you can use something 714 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: like almond butter. A cup of almonds contains nearly four 715 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: hundred milligrams of calcium. But no small child's going to 716 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: eat a cup of almonds. So actually just utilizing all 717 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: of these little things together in your diet and regularly 718 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: focus on things like almond butter instead of peanut butter. 719 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Dried figs actually also have quite a lot of calcium. 720 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: So you can throw a handful of dried figs into 721 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: a smoothie, or they can have a little bit of 722 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: dried figs it's a snack. About six to eight dried 723 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: figs provide nearly two hundred and fifty milligrams of calcium. 724 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: All of your beans and legums, so I know, particularly 725 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: for older kids, beans and legumes are a fussy one, 726 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: like if you haven't really raised your kids to have 727 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: a lot of beans and legumes, it can be really hard. 728 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: But things like white beans, black beans and a marmaie 729 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: beans are really high in plant based calcium as well, 730 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: so where you can try to get them onto beans 731 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and legumes, and even if it is in the dried 732 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: flavored form like you know our flavored father beans or 733 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: you know roasted chickpeas with a bit of flavoring on 734 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: them as well. The Happy Snack Company do these kid ones. 735 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: They're the Father beans, a pizza flavor. I think me 736 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: eat them sometimes. They're pretty good as well. So any 737 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: sort of bean and legum is really good. And one 738 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: of our favorite ones which we recommend to our non 739 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: dairy based ladies is unhold tarhini, so that is really 740 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: really high calcium unhold tarhini, but from a flavor preference, 741 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: a child is not gonna want to eat that. So again, 742 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: adding something like that into a smoothie with some beautiful 743 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: frozen mango berries, maybe a little bit of honey and 744 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: some plant based milk and some unhold tarhini is a 745 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: really good way to get in quite a lot of 746 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: calcium into a small child or a child's diet as well. 747 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: So just being really conscious of a lot of these 748 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: things and trying to use little amounts of them throughout 749 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: the day, because kids aren't going to chow down a 750 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: cup of white beans, two tablespoons of cheer sea's a 751 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: couple of tablespoons unhold tahini. You have to be really 752 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: smart about how you're utilizing these things, or mixing a 753 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: little bit of unhald'ahini with a little bit of honey 754 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: with a little bit of peanut butter to kind of 755 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: buffer the taste of it, because it is it is 756 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: not really a great taste or something that a child 757 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: is actively going to enjoy, I don't think, so being 758 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: smart with how you use them, but using them regularly 759 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: as well. Another one is calcium set tofu is really 760 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: quite high in calcium, but really look for a brand 761 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: that is calcium set as well, and there's one or 762 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: two brands available at coals and woolworst. And again small 763 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: children are probably not going to eat calcium unless they've 764 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: grown up. Whether it's really culturally you know, known food 765 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: and they see it a lot. But you can use 766 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of tofu and blend it into a 767 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: smoothie again where not a huge amount, but a small 768 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: amount of calcium set tofu, which again is a smart 769 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: way to boost up you know, the calcium intake in 770 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: a child's start who just doesn't really have all or 771 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: want a bar of dairy. 772 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: You just will take any opportunity to stick tofu in 773 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: like it's a question about kids calcium, Like, I don't 774 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: know how you got into tofu in a smoothie like 775 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: that is a long shot. I was going to say, 776 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 3: make a Milo weep big slice, because then the Milo's 777 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: got vitamin D and calcium in it, not tofu in 778 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: a smoothie. I can't apologize to listeners. I need to 779 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: speak to you about a tofu addiction. But I think 780 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 3: go back to the Ovaltamee Milo. 781 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: The children Milo. 782 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: If you've got it, because I think it can be 783 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: a very functional food. 784 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: The question was on kids, lean kids. 785 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: I was saying for those that can't have dairy at all. 786 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: Okay, if anyone has mixed tofu into a smoothie, let 787 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: us know. 788 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm hugely interested. 789 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to wrap up the podcast today. 790 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: So yes, but also just keep in mind with your kids, 791 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: whether or not whatever form of calcium they're getting, get 792 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of sunlight because that is one of 793 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: the best ways to ensure that they're getting the vitamin 794 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: D they need to activate and make sure that the 795 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: bone synthesis. 796 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: It's just not enough to have calcium on its own. 797 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. All right, Well that brings us to the 798 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: end of another episode of the Nutrition counch. If you 799 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: know that your own needs a little bit of a 800 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: booster in terms of protein, or maybe some delicious hot chocolates. 801 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: If you're an adult, you don't like your milo, maybe 802 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: you want a little bit of a hot chocolate. Check 803 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: out our delicious range of protein powders and hot chocolates 804 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: at designed viadietitians dot com. We have quite a few 805 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: functional products there with some added nutrients in there that 806 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: we know are beneficial to women's house. So thank you 807 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: for listening and we will catch you in the next 808 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: week's episode. 809 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: Have a great week.