WEBVTT - Discover Your Dharma (purpose) with Sahara Rose ☸️

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<v Speaker 1>For myself, I was really when I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find my dharma, I was like waiting for approval of others.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to drop the need to gain the approval

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<v Speaker 1>of other people and to trust that you know your dharma,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really gave me a level of freedom to

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<v Speaker 1>not seek validation, to not seek anyone else giving me

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<v Speaker 1>a gold star, and just to trust even if it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make sense to anyone else around me. And for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who you know may have this idea and it

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<v Speaker 1>feels weird or far off or it's not logical, to

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<v Speaker 1>really trust that and honor it because part of it

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<v Speaker 1>is related to your dharma.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Rise in Kunka Podcasts. I'm your

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<v Speaker 2>host Georgie Stephenson, fulmer, lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to season four of The Rise and

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<v Speaker 2>Conquered podcast. To kick off the season, we are chatting

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<v Speaker 2>with Sahara Rose. Sahara has blessed the podcast with her

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<v Speaker 2>presence before, so I'm so excited to have her back

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<v Speaker 2>on the show and to unpack her new book, Discover

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<v Speaker 2>Your Dama. If you haven't heard of Sahara before, she

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<v Speaker 2>is a best selling author, public speaker, and host of

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<v Speaker 2>the popular podcast The Highest Self. I was lucky enough

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of the first to read her new book,

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<v Speaker 2>and can I just say it is incredible. Discover Your

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<v Speaker 2>Dama is all about discovering your sole purpose and really

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<v Speaker 2>discovering your why. As we are entering a new year

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure we all have some new goals or passions,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this episode was very timely and also very

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<v Speaker 2>insightful for those who feel like they may not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have found the dama or purpose in life yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>after twenty twenty, they're on the hunt. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this episode would be so good for the New year.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such an incredible chat. Let's get straight into

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Hi, Sahara, and welcome back to the Rising

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<v Speaker 2>Conquer podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor

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<v Speaker 3>to be back. Georgie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have you back. And today we

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<v Speaker 2>are talking about your new book, Discover Your Drama. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I just say, first of all, congratulations. I am just

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<v Speaker 2>about finish this book.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky to get it early, and it is amazing and

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<v Speaker 2>I just could not wait to tattoo about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes me so excited because you're really one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first people to have read it, so I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad you're enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, honestly, Sahara, it's amazing and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I cannot wait to get her on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast and tell everyone. And also when this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>will go live, it will be literally the start of January,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it's the perfect timing for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to read this book and really dive deep because they're

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<v Speaker 2>probably still going to be on holidays and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that New Year energy, and I think especially after twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been a lot. It's been a big yea,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we've all got more of this, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess consciousness and just seeing things in a different perspective, reflecting,

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<v Speaker 2>and Yeah, I just couldn't think of the better time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it's interesting because I started this book

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<v Speaker 1>almost two years ago, and I obviously knew twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a big year, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really realize how big or how it would take shape.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're in this really interesting time right now because

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<v Speaker 1>we're experiencing the biggest job loss and the biggest job

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<v Speaker 1>transition in modern history, and the opportunity for us to

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<v Speaker 1>really create a life that is more in alignment with

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<v Speaker 1>our gifts, our talents, our strengths, and to use this

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<v Speaker 1>moment right now to really ask ourselves, how do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to continue to show up and be part of

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<v Speaker 1>this world, and how can I make it more in

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<v Speaker 1>alignment with my purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>I really resonate with that would alignment for the end

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty. It really is something that I have

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<v Speaker 2>been reflecting, especially as I'm reading your book. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>been instilled and I'm like, alignment is what I need

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, alignment is you know, essentially for all

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<v Speaker 1>parts of your life to be in clarity with who

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<v Speaker 1>you are out this time. And that's not a one

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<v Speaker 1>time process. It's going to continue to shift, just like

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<v Speaker 1>your dharma is not a one time thing. It's to

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<v Speaker 1>forever be in alignment with your truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Well, okay, so before we get ahead of ourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you a question that I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be asking all my Season four guests and also guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to preface this and let you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know that out like we were kind of saying at

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<v Speaker 2>the start, me and Sahara did a podcast probably a

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<v Speaker 2>good two years ago and it is amazing. I will

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<v Speaker 2>link it in the show notes, and I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 2>if you have listened to that podcast, also go back

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<v Speaker 2>to that podcast. So that's why you just in case

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<v Speaker 2>you're confused by I mean Sahara kind of talk like

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<v Speaker 2>was spoken before we have and so I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 2>going back to that episode. But Sahara a question I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking all my Season four guests, and that is, what

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<v Speaker 2>is your favorite quote that helps you rise and conquer?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 1>So this quote was an affirmation I created when I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling really overwhelmed by all of the things, because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you're you know, doing your purpose, lack and

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<v Speaker 1>show up. And it is I receive the support I

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<v Speaker 1>need so I can focus my energy on my dharma.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even like printed out postcards and I like

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<v Speaker 1>have them around my office because sometimes we get so

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<v Speaker 1>busy doing so many other things that aren't actually related

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<v Speaker 1>to our dharma, just like you know, the paperwork, the

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<v Speaker 1>nitty gritty, all of these different things. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really calling upon that support so I could

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<v Speaker 1>pour more energy into what it is that I am

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<v Speaker 1>here to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so for the listeners who I don't know, you,

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<v Speaker 2>could you give us a bit of a snapshot of

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<v Speaker 2>who Sahara is and what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am an ancient soul in a modern body.

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<v Speaker 1>I am here to raise the vibration of the planet

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<v Speaker 1>and to help show you that your greatest form of

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<v Speaker 1>joy is also in alignment with your greatest form of service.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have written books, multiple books on ayr Veda,

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<v Speaker 1>the world's oldest health system and the sister science of

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<v Speaker 1>yoga based on the mind body connection. I have an

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<v Speaker 1>oracle card deck in journal called The Yoga Path, a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast called Highest Self Podcast, and really I'm here to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bridge and show people that spirituality living in

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<v Speaker 1>alignment with your truth doesn't have to be this like weird,

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<v Speaker 1>far off thing, but it can actually be really grounded,

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<v Speaker 1>approachable and easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you wrapped that up so well. And

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<v Speaker 2>guys at Sahara's podcast, the Highest Self Podcast is amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to highly highly recommend also go and check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sahara, let's get straight into your book because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited. Like I said, I'm just about to finish it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has really come at an amazing time for me.

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<v Speaker 2>As we are recording this, guys, it is still twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty right at the end, you guys will hear this

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one. But for me personally, I have

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<v Speaker 2>just gone through some transitions in my life. I recently

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<v Speaker 2>had a miscarriage and then I also had a big

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<v Speaker 2>surgery where I had my breast implants removed, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just finished my recovery. But I guess I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time to reflect and then also just twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty being a huge year, and this book has has

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<v Speaker 2>just been such a catalyst and an amazing tool for

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<v Speaker 2>me to reflect and think about, you know, what is

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<v Speaker 2>truly important to me and what I want my life

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<v Speaker 2>to look like. And then what I was saying before

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<v Speaker 2>about living in alignment. So, Sahara, could you explain to

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<v Speaker 2>the listeners what your book, Discover Your Dama is about

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<v Speaker 2>and what gave you the idea to write a book

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<v Speaker 2>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, So for me, it began with my own

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<v Speaker 1>journey of questioning if I had a purpose. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I lived my life trying to help as many people

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. I always knew that was my purpose. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to help people, but I just looked around of

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<v Speaker 1>who's helping the most people? Okay, mother Teresa? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>become a nun Gandhi? Should I, you know, try to

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<v Speaker 1>start a political protest? Like what do I do to

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<v Speaker 1>help people? And in my family, no one was living

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<v Speaker 1>in alignment with their dharma. My mother was a refugee,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was an immigrant, so it was really focused

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<v Speaker 1>on survival. So I went to college thinking I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an international human rights lawyer, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was when I was working with different NGOs that I

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<v Speaker 1>realized that it really wasn't using my gifts. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>using my creativity or my communication skills, and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really feeling the people that I wanted to help. So

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<v Speaker 1>I felt really confused of what my purpose could be

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<v Speaker 1>because my identity of just wanting to help people was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of, you know, stripped away from me when this

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<v Speaker 1>career that I was going after was not a fit.

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<v Speaker 1>And at this time, I really wasn't sure what my

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<v Speaker 1>purpose was, and I was dabbling around with so many

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<v Speaker 1>different ideas, and I began to experience different health issues

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<v Speaker 1>which brought me to ayer Veda. Now, in studying Ireveda,

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<v Speaker 1>it really first began for myself. How can I feel

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<v Speaker 1>better in my body? How can I digest food? How

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<v Speaker 1>can I bring my hormones back into balance? My body

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<v Speaker 1>had gone into paramenopause when I was twenty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>so I became obsessed with learning everything about Iraveda healed

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<v Speaker 1>my body, and then naturally wanted to share it. So

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<v Speaker 1>my goal was I really want to write this book

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<v Speaker 1>on ire Veda. And now at this point, my family

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<v Speaker 1>was like no, no, no, no, no, that's not a career,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're going to become a starving artist like that

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<v Speaker 1>is not something that you are, that you are meant

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<v Speaker 1>to do at all, You're gonna end up homeless. And

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<v Speaker 1>when they saw I wouldn't listen, it would get worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse, and you know, it would just really turned

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<v Speaker 1>into a lot of fights and then threatens, threats to

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<v Speaker 1>be disowned and saying that I was selfish for living

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose or that I was ungrateful, and I was confused.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was hard because a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of me believed it too. You know, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if maybe I was going to end up homeless trying

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<v Speaker 1>to write this book, or you know, maybe living your

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<v Speaker 1>purpose is the story they tell you as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you to follow your dreams and you grow

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<v Speaker 1>up and then oh no, that was bullshit. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like Santa Claus, you weren't actually supposed to follow your dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wait, am I still believing in

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<v Speaker 1>this fairy tale that doesn't actually exist? So it was

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<v Speaker 1>hard because part of me could feel I had a

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<v Speaker 1>purpose and another part of me was like, where's the proof.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was in those years back and forth that

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<v Speaker 1>I really began to you know, I began to see

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<v Speaker 1>that the world around me it was not in alignment

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<v Speaker 1>with who I was, and that the true directory of

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<v Speaker 1>my life was not one that I that I was

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. So at this time I began to dive

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<v Speaker 1>deeply into spirituality and realizing all of the limiting beliefs

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<v Speaker 1>that I had, the you know, childhood situations that we

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<v Speaker 1>all have ancestral et cetera, and that to me was

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<v Speaker 1>really when the seed of living my dharma was planted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realized that I had to go through those

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<v Speaker 1>obstacles with my parents, of not believing in me, of

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<v Speaker 1>being disowned of, you know, going through this deep, deep uncertainty,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could find truth and trust within myself and

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<v Speaker 1>be able to you know, sit before people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in me and who you know are questioning what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, and to honor myself enough that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop me. That was the unique training that my soul needed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why it manifested into this situation. So this

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<v Speaker 1>concept of dharma really came to me when I finally

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<v Speaker 1>wrote this book on Araveda, and I walked up to

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<v Speaker 1>Deepak Chopere at a conference, and you know, before I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it, he wrote the forward to my book and

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<v Speaker 1>has written now the forward of three of my books,

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<v Speaker 1>and people would always ask me, how are you doing this? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you living your dreams? How are you able

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<v Speaker 1>to express yourself? And I realized, you know, the story

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<v Speaker 1>behind the story was the how. And that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>began to on my podcast talk a lot more about

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<v Speaker 1>living your dharma and breaking down different ways and processes

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<v Speaker 1>that people can go through to help them not only

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<v Speaker 1>find theirs, but trust it enough to take action on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what inspired me to write this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is just insane, and I loved writing that

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<v Speaker 2>story in the book of really how You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>this point? And I think that I really love that

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<v Speaker 2>you chat about is this concept of how the lessons

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<v Speaker 2>that you go through are really the catalysts to you

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<v Speaker 2>know it, finding your drama and going towards at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the path that you're supposed to be on. So, just

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<v Speaker 2>to be very clear, so is it correct in saying

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<v Speaker 2>that the word dama means your purpose?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's your soul's purpose. It is the big reason

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<v Speaker 1>why you are here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is beyond any one career or one role

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<v Speaker 1>or one project, But it's really the how. So thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of it like your mission statement, right, Like I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to bring beauty to this world. I'm here to connect

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<v Speaker 1>people to their hearts. I'm here to understand the world

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<v Speaker 1>in a deep way. I'm here to raise consciousness, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>So your dharma is that mission statement that transcends and

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<v Speaker 1>connects any role, project, careers, jobs, et cetera. And those

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<v Speaker 1>are really kind of like the services underneath it. So

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<v Speaker 1>your dharma is eternal. Your soul chose your dharma, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Veadic belief, prior to you incarnating on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>It knew your purpose and it chose the situations, the body,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you were born into as your unique training

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<v Speaker 1>for you to embody your dharma. So we were born

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<v Speaker 1>with a purpose, but that doesn't mean we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to live it necessarily. We were born with these gifts,

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<v Speaker 1>these strengths, these talents, this knowing, but then we come

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<v Speaker 1>to this planet and we forget, and it's the process

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<v Speaker 1>of remembering again, remembering your truth, remembering who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are the obstacles that we're going to face.

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<v Speaker 1>And it can look like so many different ways for

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<v Speaker 1>so many different people, but it's really the training for

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<v Speaker 1>us to cultivate the strength, the courage, the grounding, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that might look like for you, so you can really

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<v Speaker 1>step into an embodiment now of.

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<v Speaker 3>This Darma.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love this. Something that I have really been

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<v Speaker 2>leaning in too recently with my recent personal events is

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<v Speaker 2>the mantra of life happens for me, not to me,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that you know when even negative things or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote negative things happen, not seeing them as oh,

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<v Speaker 2>of course you know this negative thing would happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>seeing them as like you said in regards to a lesson, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how is this teaching me? What am I learning to

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<v Speaker 2>get closer to my Dama?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, every single lesson I go through in life, now

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<v Speaker 1>I zoom out, what is this teaching me? Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>see the lesson here, and then it takes you out

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<v Speaker 1>of being so stuck in things or not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to find your way out, or the victimhood, which you

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<v Speaker 1>know is so easy for the ego mind to put

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves in the y me, the y me, and like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this training me? What is this teaching me?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this helping me see that I may not

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<v Speaker 2>And so in the first chapter, I highlighted this line.

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<v Speaker 2>I even I underlined it. I really enjoyed it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read it out to you and I

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<v Speaker 2>would love for you to explain it to the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>So it reads this journey is what prepares and unlocks

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<v Speaker 2>the power, wisdom, strength and vulnerability that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>truly embody your drama. You were born knowing, but only

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<v Speaker 2>through the quest of remembering are you ready to embody.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does it mean to you.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I loved this because it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what I was talking about in regards to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going through certain things in your life and going through

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<v Speaker 2>certain lessons and realizing that. I guess like the analogy

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<v Speaker 2>that came to my mind was like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're peeling away add an onion and you're going through

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<v Speaker 2>the layers and you're seeing different things and you're learning

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<v Speaker 2>different lessons. Bit the whole thing is actually the journey,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily the thing in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense totally? Yes, And it is all

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<v Speaker 3>about the journey.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so many people think, Okay, once I find

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<v Speaker 1>my purpose, then I'm done, and it's like this mountain

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<v Speaker 1>top that you reach the top of and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>chilling forever. And that's not really how it goes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a mountain range. You know, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>one summit and then you go down, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>find another one and you go down. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so hierarchical as we try to make it think, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we're trained, like you know, you do grade school

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<v Speaker 1>and until you graduate or you climb the corporate ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see it more of a spiral. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have a level of awareness. You go about

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<v Speaker 1>and you live your life and you come back to

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<v Speaker 1>that very same thing with a deeper level of awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>and the spiral never ends. You just continue to journey

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<v Speaker 1>and journey and journey and get deeper and deeper and deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>M sorry for yeah, so you know. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing about that specific sentence is, you know, the it's

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<v Speaker 1>about remembering. I think so many of us think how

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<v Speaker 1>do I find my dharma? I know for myself, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how can I find this purpose? It's like

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<v Speaker 1>this like easter egg that I had to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and find. And it's not so much about finding it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not outside of you. It's more about remembering who

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<v Speaker 1>you are. So imagine your purpose is you with just

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<v Speaker 1>your naked body, right, It's you and your most natural state,

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<v Speaker 1>and you, throughout your life have put on socks and

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<v Speaker 1>pants and jackets and hats and gloves and layers and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these different layers upon layers upon layers, which

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<v Speaker 1>are conditioning. Society believes all of these different structures we're

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<v Speaker 1>holding onto. So your dharma is not so much about

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<v Speaker 1>now finding something else. It's about the deconditioning unraveling, letting go,

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<v Speaker 1>and the more that you can let go of everything

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you are not, the more you can

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<v Speaker 1>step into who it is that.

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<v Speaker 3>You truly are.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that last sentence that was that it is

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<v Speaker 2>so true, and I feel like also sometimes we go

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<v Speaker 2>through life and you kind of explain this in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, we wear certain masks and we wear

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<v Speaker 2>certain titles, and it's like at some point we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of picked these things up and are kind of facilitating

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<v Speaker 2>our life under them. But when did we actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>want to do these things. Was it what other people

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<v Speaker 2>put on us? Or is it truly what we believe

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<v Speaker 2>in who we.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to be? Mm hmm yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because you think will help you survive or

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<v Speaker 1>because you think it will help you thrive?

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's a very big difference in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And something I would love to get into is

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<v Speaker 2>the concepts of Kira. Am I saying that right Korea, Korea,

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<v Speaker 2>my Australian accent is not doing that any favorites Kira

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<v Speaker 2>and Karma. So this was really interesting to me because

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<v Speaker 2>the way that you explained Karma, I had always seen

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<v Speaker 2>it in a different sort of concept. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>love for you to explain to the audience what these

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<v Speaker 2>two concepts mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we were all born, imagine on this highway,

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<v Speaker 1>and the end of the highway is your dharma. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you at your fullest expression. It's who you truly are

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be. Now you're going down this highway, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on cruise control, and that's when you're experiencing the flow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're feeling inspired, you're excited, you're meeting the

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<v Speaker 1>right people at the right time. You're tuning into a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast hearing exactly what it is you need to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>You're having the exact conversation that gives the spark to

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing. And you may experiencing nicities or coincidences,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is actually normal, like you are supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>live your life this way. Life was meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>lived in flow. And this is Korea, which is boundless

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<v Speaker 1>action from the universe. So the universe is propelling you

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<v Speaker 1>now in the direction of your dharma. However, we're on

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<v Speaker 1>this highway and there are many exits off of this highway.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is when we see people saying, oh, come

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<v Speaker 1>over here, you'll make more money doing this, or your

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<v Speaker 1>parents will only be proud of you if you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>or well, everyone who graduated from school is moving over here,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know what, like dharma doesn't even really exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get off here before it's too late. And we

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<v Speaker 1>see everyone around us is going off these different exits,

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<v Speaker 1>so you begin to question, wait, is something wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>me to keep going? Does this darma place even exist?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I get off the exit while I can? Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>more safe? And most of us will get off an

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<v Speaker 1>exit at a certain point in our lives, maybe throughout,

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<v Speaker 1>and that exit it at first It the universe doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to not be in alignment with your darma

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<v Speaker 1>because the universe can only come into balance when we're

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<v Speaker 1>all living in alignment with our truth. It needs it

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<v Speaker 1>needs us all, and that's why it's meant to feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel good living in alignment with your dharma,

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<v Speaker 1>then the universe can become whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The opposite of that, which is what we listen to

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<v Speaker 1>as humans, is pain. You know. It's just like when

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<v Speaker 1>your when your foot is infected, you're going to experience pain,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's your body's way of saying something's wrong here.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Pay attention to this. That's how our human bodies just work.

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>We often don't leave a relationship, et cetera until we

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>feel a certain amount of pain. So we get off

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>this exit and at first the universe begins to tap

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>tap tap, Hey, something's off. This job is not not

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in alignment with your truth. You're not supposed to be here,

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>so that could feel like anxiety or just this, yeah,

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>this feeling like I don't know, something's energetically off, or

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you're just not feeling inspired, you're feeling feeling blocked. However,

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>most of us choose not to listen. We think that

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that's normal.

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Life's tough.

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Get a helmet, so you keep going in that same direction,

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and the universe is like, Okay, she is not listening.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Punch punch, punch. That can look like a breakdown, a

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>panic attack, depression, something to really knock you off of

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>your feet for you to notice. And again, we might

0:26:25.359 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 1>just start drinking more or medicating more, or doing something

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>else to numb ourselves so we can continue to persevere

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>through this. We think that that's what life is. It's

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a series of unfortunate events, right, And then the universe

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is like, wow, she's really not listening, And that's when

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>it can turn into a collision, something so big that

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.959
<v Speaker 1>you have no choice but to look at that.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 3>You are knocked off your feet again.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That could be physical, that could be in a more

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>metaphorical way, and that's your choice right there to listen.

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Now, some people still do not. Some people live like this.

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Breakdown after breakdown after breakdown, and that's their whole life.

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>They're not listening, they're not pivoting. However, many of us

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>finally in that breakdown moment, and I'm sure everyone who's

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>listening to this, if you're listening to this podcast, you

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>are wanting to make your life better in some sort

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of way. So from that breakdown, we pivot, you turn,

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>We figure out, Okay, what is feeling out of alignment.

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's this job I'm showing up at it every day,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>or this relationship or this home, et cetera. And then

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>from there you start to get momentum back. You're going

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>back towards that highway you were born on, back towards Korea.

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 1>But at first it could feel really hard because you've

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>moved so far away from it. So one thing that

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I share in the book is sometimes to get to

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the path of least resistance, we have to follow the path.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>We are the most resistant too. So if you have

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>been living forever in that series of unfortunate events, which

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>is car bounded action by the universe, then at first

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>it may feel really uncomfortable for you to go back

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>into flow. You don't even know what that feels like.

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It feels so unnatural for you, and you may have

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of decisions that have prevented you from

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>getting there. So it's maybe having breakups, tough conversations, quitting

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of jobs, confrontations, et cetera. But I think of it

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>as like you're on a beach, right, You're on the sand,

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>and your dharma is out in the open waters. Now

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>to get out to those open waters, you got to

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 1>move through those waves. And those waves are now the

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>personal resistances that you have of I'm not good enough,

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>or it's too late, or someone else is doing it,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>or I'm not worthy of it, et cetera. And as

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you go through those waves, you begin to get stronger,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you learn how to navigate them, you are able to

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>circumvent them, and before you know it, you're out in

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>those open waters and you're like, ah, this is what

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the path of least resistance was meant to feel like

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>this is what the korea and the flow is meant

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to feel like. So that karma is the bounded action

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>by the universe, which is the universe trying to propel

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you back into your dharma. However, to get there, you're

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>going to face some personal resistances now that are your

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>own limiting beliefs that are often tied to feeling unworthy, confused, etc.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And I go through each and everyone in the book

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the most common obstacles that are keeping us from our dharmas.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's where a lot of people get stuck.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I know I would get stuck of like, if I'm

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>supposed to follow the path of least resistance, then shouldn't

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I just like do nothing and like let it happen

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>for me? And it's not that you know, we are

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 1>all creators and Creatrix is in human form, so the

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>very reason that it desires inside of us means that

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it is meant for us. I always share in the book,

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>your dreams are dreaming you back. The very reason why

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they are your dreams is because it's meant to be

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>part of your reality. However, like mentioned, those waves are

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>those obstacles that you get to over come to further

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sheep you to embody that purpose.

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I love that analogy so much. And it's funny because

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually released a podcast a couple of weeks ago,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and I spoke about the concept of a struggle, and

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I think from a young age I developed this limiting

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>belief that you know, to achieve something or get somewhere,

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you have to have this concept of struggling together like

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>grit and it being super hard. And recently, in the

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, I've actually switched that around where

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>in my business I take the path that feels aligned

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>and less resistant, even if it's not what everyone else

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>is doing, and even if it feels too easy. But

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>so often I find that, like you were saying in

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>regards to things are meant to feel good, things are

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>meant to feel easy, things are meant to feel in flow.

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's kind of a bit of a

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>as society, you know, the whole you know, sleep when

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you're dead, and like you know that sort of like

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Gary the energy where it's like very full on and

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you've got to struggle. And don't get me wrong, I love,

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, putting in action and putting in work, but

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent there's something in when things feel in

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>alignment and things feel in flow.

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And it's knowing the nuances of when to push

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and when not to. So there's that personal resistance, which

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>is the like I don't want to have this tough conversation,

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>or you know this job is not that bad, so

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I might as well keep doing it, or oh maybe

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he'll change. And these are your own personal resistances that

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>those are things that might feel really scary and intimidating

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and the last thing you want to do to overcome,

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know they're going to bring you towards more expansion.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Then there's the universe resistance, which is like why why

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>are you really doing it? Like do you even want

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this end goal? Or are you doing it because you

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're not going to be worthy or validated

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>or enough or accomplished, et cetera if you don't And

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>really looking at that, because I think that so often

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we like either go into the that super Gary V

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and I love Gary V, and it's just like I

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>would like I would love to stay with gary V.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's like what's your why, Like what is the

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>what is the big reason why? And I do believe

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that he is connected to your dharma. But but like

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>looking at what is what is the energy that you

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>want to live in and the energy that you want

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>to create. Now, some people like myself, when I like

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to take action, I needed that gary

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>V medicine was so helpful for me. And then at

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>certain other chapters in your life you need to learn

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>how to trust and flow and surrender, whereas for other

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>people that might not be the medicine they need right now.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I love looking out the personal versus

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 1>universal resistance. So then it's not really like this one

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>size fits all. It's is this a block? But if

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I go through it, it's going to make me feel

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>more expansive or it's going to make me feel more contractive.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 3>So true.

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's also as you go through those

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>different things almost like the more you go through them,

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the more you know them m h exactly.

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think, yeah, we begin to feel more of

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the nuances of why. And that's why I love feeling

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in my body of like what does expansive and contractive

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like? So you know, expansive for each person is

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>going to feel different, like for you, Georgie, what does

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 1>expansive feel like in your body.

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>For me, like I was kind of saying before, it

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>feels like this sense of almost alignment and peace and happiness,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>and even though I'm so happy to put in the

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>work and I actually kind of thrive in that aspect,

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>but it feels like I guess the only way I

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>can describe it is it just feels right. It just

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 2>feels like me. It just feels right.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.959
<v Speaker 1>And what are some things that you do in your

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>darma that help you feel like that?

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>A huge thing for me. I used to work like

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 2>corporate law. I used to have to get to work

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>at seven point thirty. And something that I realized is

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 2>my morning routine is huge. So sitting down meditating and

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 2>journaling and having a slow morning completely sets me up

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>in the perfect like mind frame and attitude to take

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>on the day. And I can notice a huge difference

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>when I don't do those sorts of things.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And what are some things that you do in your

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>business that help you feel like that?

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>For me, I love doing things where I'm a big

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>controlling person, so I like to be on top of everything.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I like to have lists, I like to I'm a

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>big pitter energy person. So I like to have that

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 2>sort of aspects where I'm in control, I have list,

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I know what is happening. But also what I find

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 2>works really well for me is when I do sort

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>of you know, surrender and step back. And because I

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>do have a team now and I kind of you know,

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>let them be in their zones of genius. I find

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that is really powerful in us going a lot further

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>than me kind of you know, being super controlling all

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 2>the time.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, And I think that that's what's important to

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>see where do I feel alive and if it's for

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you doing the more pita you know, organizational or directional,

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, to let yourself keep doing that and to

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>also feel well, when does it feel contractive? So for you,

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>what does contractive feel like in your body.

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>When I'm stressed, when I'm agitating, and when I'm feeling

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>like scattered like all over the place.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>And what are some things that you do in your

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>business that make you feel like that.

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>When I'm micro managing people and when I'm getting to

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I find i'm more of like the visionary. I like

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to oversee things and make sure you know everything is

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>going well. But in this kind of biggest scale rather

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>than being in the nitty gritty details.

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Totally.

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>So for everyone listening to this, having that as your

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>compass of what feels expansive, what feels contractive, what does

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it feel like in your body, and then what are

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>things that you do so moving towards more of that

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>expansive feeling, things that help you for you be in

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>your pit, to be in that creator zone, and then

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>moving away from the needing to micromanage, et cetera. So,

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>for me, expansive feels like just like being on top

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of a hill with my arms open and my chest

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>broad and there's so much space in my body and

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>i can just stretch out and I'm just reaching and

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>growing and it feels like a big, deep stretch throughout

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>my body. And when I'm in conversations like podcasting, I

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 1>really feel like that. When I'm just in flow in

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>my communication, I feel like that. And then for me,

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>contracted feels like that feeling when I'm on an airplane

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>for too long and they're like four more hours, I'm

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like no, and I'm just like reminiscing on the days

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>where I like had a bed and you know, taking

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>for granted those days I could stretch out my legs.

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And when I feel like that in my business or

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in my dharma, that's when I am feeling like I

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have to put out fires, that I have to do

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it all myself, that I'm not feeling supported. So now,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>knowing that in myself, and that's why the quote that

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I started with was all about support for me, I

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>know that I need to, you know, set myself up

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to be in that contractive feeling as less as possible.

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:58.919
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean I'm never going to have it again

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>in my life? No, There's always going to be situations

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>where you are going to feel contractive. But seeing that

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>again as the karma, as that that compass south point

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that you need to shift away from, and then your

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>north point being the thing that makes you feel flow expansive.

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Korea hmm, I love that.

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for sharing on that too, and

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>thank you for asking me. Yeah, I want to switch

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>gears and I want to chat about the four types

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of drama. Could you let the audience know what these are?

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, in my research of helping people find

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>their dharma, I really realize that there's so many different

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>ways to geut there, and especially our you know, our

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Western world likes to glamorize certain stories, and you know,

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 1>while they can very much be real, it's not everyone's story. Like,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>not everyone's gonna sell their belongings, live in a van

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and then like come up with this genius idea and

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>it's the next uber right, Like it could happen, But

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people pressure themselves of if

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen that way, then it might not.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Happen for me.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>So I have these three pathways to get to your

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>dharma and then four types of drma. I have a

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of systems and frameworks.

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 3>In this book.

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I need every single person to read

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>this book to find their darma, like no matter what.

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>So the four types of dharma. The first one is

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that you know you have a gift. Now, these are

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the people who like oftentimes going to entertainment or athletes

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>or people who are just like born with a good voice,

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>They're born with an ability to play a certain sport.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 1>They know what it is that they're good at. Now

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>does that mean they're necessarily going to live it?

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Some of the best artists in the world are not

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.959
<v Speaker 1>even sharing their art, So it doesn't mean just because

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you were born with a gift, like you got it set.

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>It could just mean that that's your gift and you

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.280
<v Speaker 1>get to still work on it. So that first type

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>is you know who you have a gift. You know

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you're really good at this thing, but maybe you don't

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>know how to make it your purpose now. The second

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>is you had a break down and a breakthrough. So

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>these are oftentimes you know, motivational speakers, self help authors,

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, that you had a breakdown moment and it

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>was through that breakdown that you know, you're on your

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>knees wondering if there was a God and God came through,

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Like when you hear stories like that, that's very much

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the breakdown or break through. Myself going through health obstacles,

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. That was a breakdown for me to break through.

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>So these are people who needed to hit a certain

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>level of rock bottom for them to make a shift.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>So oftentimes they go into helping others make that same

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>shift as well. Now, the third type is you have

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>an obstacle that you have faced that you are now

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>helping other people overcome. So, for example, you know an

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>example I share in the book is this woman I know,

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>she had really bad social anxiety. She couldn't really read

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>social cues, she had a hard time just understanding people's

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>facial characteristics. She couldn't really talk to people at parties,

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and she wanted to, but it felt so foreign and

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>difficult for her. She began to make flashcards of people's

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>facial expressions and kind of like write, okay, if you

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>go to a party, like stand at the snack table

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and have a conversation with the person on the left,

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and these little ways for her to overcome her social anxiety.

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>And then she began to share it with her friends

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, this is amazing. You should share this

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>on a blog. So she began to share it on

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a blog, which later turned into a book and courses

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and an institute on helping people with social anxiety. So

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>this is just an obstacle that she had that she's

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>now helping others overcome as well. And then the fourth

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>type is someone else had an obstacle that you are

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>helping them overcome. So for example, maybe you had a

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 1>parent that faced cancer or another type of disease, so

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>even though you weren't the one experiencing it, it was

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>someone that you deeply cared about. So that's going to

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>make you want to research and learn everything and maybe

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 1>study alternative healing therapies, etc. And then with all of

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>this knowledge that you have, you're feeling inspired to share it.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes I see people say, well, I don't have

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a life defining moment. I feel like my life was

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty normal. I don't know what my purpose is. So

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe the obstacle that you're helping others overcome is the environment.

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe you haven't been displaced because of an

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>environmental disruption, but other people have, and you're finding your

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>passion and helping it for others. So it doesn't always

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 1>have to be a direct experience. So these are the

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>main four types of darmin. You could be a combination

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of two, like for myself, I had the breakdown, the breakthrough,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm also overcoming an obstacle that I'm helping others overcome,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>so it could be, you know, a combination. And for

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the one about having a gift, I do want to

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>note that there are many many types of gifts out there,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and our society really focuses on types of gifts related

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to entertainment because we're in such a media based society

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>such as you know, a good actor, a good singer,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a good basketball player, et cetera. But your gift could

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>be you host epic dinner parties, or you have a

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>really beatiful way of organizing your home, or you make

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>people feel really seen and heard, and these are also gifts.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>So oftentimes we all have gifts that we are born with,

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>but we just weren't aware of it because our society

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't celebrate it and recognize it as much. So what

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>does that feel like for you? Which of these four types?

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I definitely kind of agree with you where the breakdown

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>and breakthrough? I like, I kind of said, I used

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a family lawyer. I had this whole career

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of set up, and then there became a moment

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, what am I doing. I'm not

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 2>living in alignment. This is not what I wanted to do,

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and so I kind of, you know, left everything, took

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a really big risk and was like I'm going to

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>go off and do my own thing, and then all

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that and then with that too, with the whole obstacle.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>So there has been quite a few health issues for me,

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>and then also a big obstacle that I kind of

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you know teach within this podcast is really the obstacle

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>of not fitting in the box of what society thinks

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you should be and who you should be. I guess

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>like and disempowering a lot of limiting beliefs that I had,

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and then also sharing that with my audience.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that, and that's such a great example of it.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Really it's all coming together, right. It's like we have

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>gifts and we have obstacles and sometimes we have to

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>experience breakdown. So you know, when I share these different systems,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it's even the archetypes, et cetera. It's not just about one,

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's finding your own way of weaving them together.

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I love that.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And so Sahara, to finish off at talking about your beautiful,

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>amazing book, I know this question is going to be

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>very difficult, but if you could give your top three

0:44:56.000 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>tips for someone for finding their drama and of course, guys,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>go read the book, you will not regret it. But

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>what would they be?

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>So my first one that I have everyone start with

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>is understanding their darma archetype. So I have these nine

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 1>darma archetypes I've created and you can find it out

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>with my free quiz on Dharma archetype quiz dot com.

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you've taken the quiz yet, George,

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you'd be curious about what yours are. But for me,

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>archetypeal work has been the most instrumental thing to help

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>me find my dharma because it's allowed me to see

0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 1>myself in something greater than me. So I would say,

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>take that quiz because you'll walk away with your top

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>two dharma archetypes and you'll be able to see like,

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>yes I am a teacher, Yes I'm a researcher, a visionary, nurturer,

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And it will really give you a tangible

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>thing to walk away with. Then I would ask, what

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>is the thing I'm the most excited about? So you

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>could be excited about healing, or excited about gardening or cars,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>or it could be really anything but excitement or breadcrumbs

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>leading you to your dharma. So look at what it

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>is you're excited about, because that's the ignition underneath the

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>fuel that's going to bring you to your dharma. And

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>then the third is what are the obstacles that I've

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>overcome or helped others overcome? And it could be something

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that feels as small as like maybe you traveled a

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>lot when you were a kid. You moved every year,

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and every year you had to make new friends, or

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe you really know how to dress well, or maybe

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you have an epic way of making healthy recipes really quickly.

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So just looking at these different different gifts that you

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>have that may have been related to your obstacles. And

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I have this whole five step process called the Dharma

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Blueprint process in the book, but just those three components,

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>if you just look at your Dharma archetype what you're

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>excited about your obstacles, you'll have such a clear sense

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of your purpose.

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And just what you said at the start, I did

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 2>take the tiss and I came up as and you'll

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>probably be out, I guess this. But a visionary and

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Love that that's what you're doing right now. I know.

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, well please, I want some sort

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 2>of right path.

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Totally yay.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So, Sahara, thank you so much for coming on the

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 2>podcast and chatting to us about your amazing new book.

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I've just got a couple of questions to finish the interview,

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 2>but before we get into that, could you let everyone

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>know where they can find this book.

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you can find it wherever books are sold.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you head over to my website I am

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Saharose dot com slash Dharma, you could submit your receipt

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and I have epic bonuses available for you meditations, tapping practice,

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 1>embodiment practice, and so much more. So that is I

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>am Saharos dot com slash Dharma, d h A R

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>M A. And then you can also take the quiz

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>at Dharma archetype quiz dot com amazing.

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>So Sahara to finish the interview, I've just got a

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>couple of questions. So we know that twenty twenty was

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 2>it was a bit of a curveball, I think for

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 2>most people. And in season four of this podcast, I

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 2>am really focusing on the new year energy and you know,

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 2>taking big moves and bold action, because if twenty twenty

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 2>toward us anything, it is that things don't last and

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 2>when you're excited about something like you've just got to

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 2>do it. So I would love to know what bold

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>action will you be taking in twenty twenty one.

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>The bold action I will be taking is to train

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>more people to help them find others find their dharmat

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:41.879
<v Speaker 1>something I really feel like the world needs right now,

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.759
<v Speaker 1>we need more dharma coaches out there. So that's that's

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>my big mission I'm doing this year to help more

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>people do this work as well.

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh amazing and so exciting. And last question, so for

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>my girl gang who are looking for a bit of

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 2>inspiration and motivation to finish off this episode, what is

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the best piece of advice you have ever received?

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 1>MM, The best piece of advice that I ever received was,

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, for myself, I was really when I was

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to find my dharma, I was like waiting for

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>approval of others. So just to drop the need to

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>gain the approval of other people and to trust that

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know your dharma, and that really gave me a

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>level of freedom to not seek validation, to not seek

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>anyone else giving me a gold star, and just to

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>trust even if it didn't make sense to anyone else

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>around me, and for anyone who you may have this

0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>idea and it feels weird or far off or it's

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>not logical, to really trust that and honor it because

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is related to your dharma.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, I love it. Thank you so much, Sahara. I

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<v Speaker 2>have loved this interview. And oh my god, I love

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<v Speaker 2>your book so much. And yeah, I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on the podcast again, and I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>have an amazing twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, thanks so much for having me Joji.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't the victim the

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