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Speaker 2: And so in the first chapter, I highlighted this line.

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Speaker 2: So it reads this journey is what prepares and unlocks

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were all born, imagine on this highway,

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Speaker 1: over here, you'll make more money doing this, or your

438
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: parents will only be proud of you if you do that,

439
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: or well, everyone who graduated from school is moving over here,

440
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: or you know what, like dharma doesn't even really exist.

441
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: Just get off here before it's too late. And we

442
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: see everyone around us is going off these different exits,

443
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: so you begin to question, wait, is something wrong with

444
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: me to keep going? Does this darma place even exist?

445
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Should I get off the exit while I can? Isn't

446
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: more safe? And most of us will get off an

447
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: exit at a certain point in our lives, maybe throughout,

448
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: and that exit it at first It the universe doesn't

449
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: want you to not be in alignment with your darma

450
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: because the universe can only come into balance when we're

451
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: all living in alignment with our truth. It needs it

452
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: needs us all, and that's why it's meant to feel good.

453
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: If you feel good living in alignment with your dharma,

454
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: then the universe can become whole.

455
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 3: Now.

456
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: The opposite of that, which is what we listen to

457
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: as humans, is pain. You know. It's just like when

458
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: your when your foot is infected, you're going to experience pain,

459
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: and that's your body's way of saying something's wrong here.

460
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: Pay attention to this. That's how our human bodies just work.

461
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: We often don't leave a relationship, et cetera until we

462
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: feel a certain amount of pain. So we get off

463
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: this exit and at first the universe begins to tap

464
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: tap tap, Hey, something's off. This job is not not

465
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: in alignment with your truth. You're not supposed to be here,

466
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: so that could feel like anxiety or just this, yeah,

467
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: this feeling like I don't know, something's energetically off, or

468
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 1: you're just not feeling inspired, you're feeling feeling blocked. However,

469
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: most of us choose not to listen. We think that

470
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: that's normal.

471
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: Life's tough.

472
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: Get a helmet, so you keep going in that same direction,

473
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: and the universe is like, Okay, she is not listening.

474
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: Punch punch, punch. That can look like a breakdown, a

475
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: panic attack, depression, something to really knock you off of

476
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: your feet for you to notice. And again, we might

477
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: just start drinking more or medicating more, or doing something

478
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: else to numb ourselves so we can continue to persevere

479
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: through this. We think that that's what life is. It's

480
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: a series of unfortunate events, right, And then the universe

481
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: is like, wow, she's really not listening, And that's when

482
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: it can turn into a collision, something so big that

483
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: you have no choice but to look at that.

484
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 3: You are knocked off your feet again.

485
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: That could be physical, that could be in a more

486
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: metaphorical way, and that's your choice right there to listen.

487
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: Now, some people still do not. Some people live like this.

488
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: Breakdown after breakdown after breakdown, and that's their whole life.

489
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: They're not listening, they're not pivoting. However, many of us

490
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: finally in that breakdown moment, and I'm sure everyone who's

491
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: listening to this, if you're listening to this podcast, you

492
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: are wanting to make your life better in some sort

493
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: of way. So from that breakdown, we pivot, you turn,

494
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: We figure out, Okay, what is feeling out of alignment.

495
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: Maybe it's this job I'm showing up at it every day,

496
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: or this relationship or this home, et cetera. And then

497
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: from there you start to get momentum back. You're going

498
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: back towards that highway you were born on, back towards Korea.

499
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: But at first it could feel really hard because you've

500
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: moved so far away from it. So one thing that

501
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: I share in the book is sometimes to get to

502
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: the path of least resistance, we have to follow the path.

503
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: We are the most resistant too. So if you have

504
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: been living forever in that series of unfortunate events, which

505
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: is car bounded action by the universe, then at first

506
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: it may feel really uncomfortable for you to go back

507
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: into flow. You don't even know what that feels like.

508
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: It feels so unnatural for you, and you may have

509
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: made a lot of decisions that have prevented you from

510
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: getting there. So it's maybe having breakups, tough conversations, quitting

511
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: of jobs, confrontations, et cetera. But I think of it

512
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: as like you're on a beach, right, You're on the sand,

513
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: and your dharma is out in the open waters. Now

514
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: to get out to those open waters, you got to

515
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: move through those waves. And those waves are now the

516
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: personal resistances that you have of I'm not good enough,

517
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: or it's too late, or someone else is doing it,

518
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: or I'm not worthy of it, et cetera. And as

519
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: you go through those waves, you begin to get stronger,

520
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: you learn how to navigate them, you are able to

521
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: circumvent them, and before you know it, you're out in

522
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: those open waters and you're like, ah, this is what

523
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: the path of least resistance was meant to feel like

524
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: this is what the korea and the flow is meant

525
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: to feel like. So that karma is the bounded action

526
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: by the universe, which is the universe trying to propel

527
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: you back into your dharma. However, to get there, you're

528
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: going to face some personal resistances now that are your

529
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: own limiting beliefs that are often tied to feeling unworthy, confused, etc.

530
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: And I go through each and everyone in the book

531
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the most common obstacles that are keeping us from our dharmas.

532
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: But I think that's where a lot of people get stuck.

533
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: I know I would get stuck of like, if I'm

534
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: supposed to follow the path of least resistance, then shouldn't

535
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I just like do nothing and like let it happen

536
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: for me? And it's not that you know, we are

537
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: all creators and Creatrix is in human form, so the

538
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: very reason that it desires inside of us means that

539
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: it is meant for us. I always share in the book,

540
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: your dreams are dreaming you back. The very reason why

541
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: they are your dreams is because it's meant to be

542
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: part of your reality. However, like mentioned, those waves are

543
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: those obstacles that you get to over come to further

544
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: sheep you to embody that purpose.

545
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: I love that analogy so much. And it's funny because

546
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: I actually released a podcast a couple of weeks ago,

547
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: and I spoke about the concept of a struggle, and

548
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: I think from a young age I developed this limiting

549
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: belief that you know, to achieve something or get somewhere,

550
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: you have to have this concept of struggling together like

551
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: grit and it being super hard. And recently, in the

552
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: last couple of years, I've actually switched that around where

553
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: in my business I take the path that feels aligned

554
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: and less resistant, even if it's not what everyone else

555
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: is doing, and even if it feels too easy. But

556
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: so often I find that, like you were saying in

557
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: regards to things are meant to feel good, things are

558
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: meant to feel easy, things are meant to feel in flow.

559
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: And I think it's kind of a bit of a

560
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: as society, you know, the whole you know, sleep when

561
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: you're dead, and like you know that sort of like

562
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 2: Gary the energy where it's like very full on and

563
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: you've got to struggle. And don't get me wrong, I love,

564
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, putting in action and putting in work, but

565
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: one hundred percent there's something in when things feel in

566
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: alignment and things feel in flow.

567
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's knowing the nuances of when to push

568
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: and when not to. So there's that personal resistance, which

569
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: is the like I don't want to have this tough conversation,

570
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: or you know this job is not that bad, so

571
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I might as well keep doing it, or oh maybe

572
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: he'll change. And these are your own personal resistances that

573
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: those are things that might feel really scary and intimidating

574
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: and the last thing you want to do to overcome,

575
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: but you know they're going to bring you towards more expansion.

576
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Then there's the universe resistance, which is like why why

577
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: are you really doing it? Like do you even want

578
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: this end goal? Or are you doing it because you

579
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: feel like you're not going to be worthy or validated

580
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: or enough or accomplished, et cetera if you don't And

581
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: really looking at that, because I think that so often

582
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: we like either go into the that super Gary V

583
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: and I love Gary V, and it's just like I

584
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: would like I would love to stay with gary V.

585
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: And it's like what's your why, Like what is the

586
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: what is the big reason why? And I do believe

587
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: that he is connected to your dharma. But but like

588
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: looking at what is what is the energy that you

589
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: want to live in and the energy that you want

590
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: to create. Now, some people like myself, when I like

591
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't know how to take action, I needed that gary

592
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: V medicine was so helpful for me. And then at

593
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: certain other chapters in your life you need to learn

594
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: how to trust and flow and surrender, whereas for other

595
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: people that might not be the medicine they need right now.

596
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: So that's why I love looking out the personal versus

597
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: universal resistance. So then it's not really like this one

598
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: size fits all. It's is this a block? But if

599
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I go through it, it's going to make me feel

600
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: more expansive or it's going to make me feel more contractive.

601
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: So true.

602
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: And I think it's also as you go through those

603
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: different things almost like the more you go through them,

604
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: the more you know them m h exactly.

605
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, we begin to feel more of

606
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the nuances of why. And that's why I love feeling

607
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: in my body of like what does expansive and contractive

608
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: feel like? So you know, expansive for each person is

609
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: going to feel different, like for you, Georgie, what does

610
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: expansive feel like in your body.

611
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: For me, like I was kind of saying before, it

612
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: feels like this sense of almost alignment and peace and happiness,

613
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: and even though I'm so happy to put in the

614
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: work and I actually kind of thrive in that aspect,

615
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: but it feels like I guess the only way I

616
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: can describe it is it just feels right. It just

617
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: feels like me. It just feels right.

618
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: And what are some things that you do in your

619
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: darma that help you feel like that?

620
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: A huge thing for me. I used to work like

621
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: corporate law. I used to have to get to work

622
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: at seven point thirty. And something that I realized is

623
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: my morning routine is huge. So sitting down meditating and

624
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: journaling and having a slow morning completely sets me up

625
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: in the perfect like mind frame and attitude to take

626
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: on the day. And I can notice a huge difference

627
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: when I don't do those sorts of things.

628
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I love that.

629
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And what are some things that you do in your

630
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: business that help you feel like that?

631
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: For me, I love doing things where I'm a big

632
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: controlling person, so I like to be on top of everything.

633
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: I like to have lists, I like to I'm a

634
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: big pitter energy person. So I like to have that

635
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: sort of aspects where I'm in control, I have list,

636
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: I know what is happening. But also what I find

637
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: works really well for me is when I do sort

638
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: of you know, surrender and step back. And because I

639
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: do have a team now and I kind of you know,

640
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: let them be in their zones of genius. I find

641
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: that is really powerful in us going a lot further

642
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: than me kind of you know, being super controlling all

643
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: the time.

644
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, And I think that that's what's important to

645
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: see where do I feel alive and if it's for

646
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: you doing the more pita you know, organizational or directional,

647
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: et cetera, to let yourself keep doing that and to

648
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: also feel well, when does it feel contractive? So for you,

649
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: what does contractive feel like in your body.

650
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: When I'm stressed, when I'm agitating, and when I'm feeling

651
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: like scattered like all over the place.

652
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: And what are some things that you do in your

653
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: business that make you feel like that.

654
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: When I'm micro managing people and when I'm getting to

655
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: I find i'm more of like the visionary. I like

656
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: to oversee things and make sure you know everything is

657
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: going well. But in this kind of biggest scale rather

658
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: than being in the nitty gritty details.

659
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: Totally.

660
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: So for everyone listening to this, having that as your

661
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: compass of what feels expansive, what feels contractive, what does

662
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: it feel like in your body, and then what are

663
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: things that you do so moving towards more of that

664
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: expansive feeling, things that help you for you be in

665
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: your pit, to be in that creator zone, and then

666
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: moving away from the needing to micromanage, et cetera. So,

667
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: for me, expansive feels like just like being on top

668
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: of a hill with my arms open and my chest

669
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: broad and there's so much space in my body and

670
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: i can just stretch out and I'm just reaching and

671
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: growing and it feels like a big, deep stretch throughout

672
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: my body. And when I'm in conversations like podcasting, I

673
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: really feel like that. When I'm just in flow in

674
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: my communication, I feel like that. And then for me,

675
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: contracted feels like that feeling when I'm on an airplane

676
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: for too long and they're like four more hours, I'm

677
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: like no, and I'm just like reminiscing on the days

678
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: where I like had a bed and you know, taking

679
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: for granted those days I could stretch out my legs.

680
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: And when I feel like that in my business or

681
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: in my dharma, that's when I am feeling like I

682
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: have to put out fires, that I have to do

683
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: it all myself, that I'm not feeling supported. So now,

684
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: knowing that in myself, and that's why the quote that

685
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I started with was all about support for me, I

686
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: know that I need to, you know, set myself up

687
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: to be in that contractive feeling as less as possible.

688
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: Does that mean I'm never going to have it again

689
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: in my life? No, There's always going to be situations

690
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: where you are going to feel contractive. But seeing that

691
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: again as the karma, as that that compass south point

692
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: that you need to shift away from, and then your

693
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: north point being the thing that makes you feel flow expansive.

694
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: Korea hmm, I love that.

695
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing on that too, and

696
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: thank you for asking me. Yeah, I want to switch

697
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: gears and I want to chat about the four types

698
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: of drama. Could you let the audience know what these are?

699
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

700
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: So, you know, in my research of helping people find

701
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: their dharma, I really realize that there's so many different

702
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: ways to geut there, and especially our you know, our

703
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Western world likes to glamorize certain stories, and you know,

704
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: while they can very much be real, it's not everyone's story. Like,

705
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: not everyone's gonna sell their belongings, live in a van

706
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: and then like come up with this genius idea and

707
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: it's the next uber right, Like it could happen, But

708
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people pressure themselves of if

709
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that way, then it might not.

710
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: Happen for me.

711
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: So I have these three pathways to get to your

712
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: dharma and then four types of drma. I have a

713
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: lot of systems and frameworks.

714
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: In this book.

715
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I need every single person to read

716
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: this book to find their darma, like no matter what.

717
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: So the four types of dharma. The first one is

718
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: that you know you have a gift. Now, these are

719
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: the people who like oftentimes going to entertainment or athletes

720
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: or people who are just like born with a good voice,

721
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: They're born with an ability to play a certain sport.

722
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: They know what it is that they're good at. Now

723
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: does that mean they're necessarily going to live it?

724
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

725
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Some of the best artists in the world are not

726
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: even sharing their art, So it doesn't mean just because

727
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: you were born with a gift, like you got it set.

728
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: It could just mean that that's your gift and you

729
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: get to still work on it. So that first type

730
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: is you know who you have a gift. You know

731
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: you're really good at this thing, but maybe you don't

732
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: know how to make it your purpose now. The second

733
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: is you had a break down and a breakthrough. So

734
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: these are oftentimes you know, motivational speakers, self help authors,

735
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: et cetera, that you had a breakdown moment and it

736
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: was through that breakdown that you know, you're on your

737
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: knees wondering if there was a God and God came through,

738
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Like when you hear stories like that, that's very much

739
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: the breakdown or break through. Myself going through health obstacles,

740
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: et cetera. That was a breakdown for me to break through.

741
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: So these are people who needed to hit a certain

742
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: level of rock bottom for them to make a shift.

743
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: So oftentimes they go into helping others make that same

744
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: shift as well. Now, the third type is you have

745
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: an obstacle that you have faced that you are now

746
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: helping other people overcome. So, for example, you know an

747
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: example I share in the book is this woman I know,

748
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: she had really bad social anxiety. She couldn't really read

749
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: social cues, she had a hard time just understanding people's

750
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: facial characteristics. She couldn't really talk to people at parties,

751
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: and she wanted to, but it felt so foreign and

752
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: difficult for her. She began to make flashcards of people's

753
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: facial expressions and kind of like write, okay, if you

754
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: go to a party, like stand at the snack table

755
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with the person on the left,

756
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: and these little ways for her to overcome her social anxiety.

757
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: And then she began to share it with her friends

758
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is amazing. You should share this

759
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: on a blog. So she began to share it on

760
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: a blog, which later turned into a book and courses

761
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: and an institute on helping people with social anxiety. So

762
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: this is just an obstacle that she had that she's

763
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: now helping others overcome as well. And then the fourth

764
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: type is someone else had an obstacle that you are

765
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: helping them overcome. So for example, maybe you had a

766
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: parent that faced cancer or another type of disease, so

767
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: even though you weren't the one experiencing it, it was

768
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: someone that you deeply cared about. So that's going to

769
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: make you want to research and learn everything and maybe

770
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: study alternative healing therapies, etc. And then with all of

771
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: this knowledge that you have, you're feeling inspired to share it.

772
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: So sometimes I see people say, well, I don't have

773
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: a life defining moment. I feel like my life was

774
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: pretty normal. I don't know what my purpose is. So

775
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe the obstacle that you're helping others overcome is the environment.

776
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you haven't been displaced because of an

777
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: environmental disruption, but other people have, and you're finding your

778
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: passion and helping it for others. So it doesn't always

779
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: have to be a direct experience. So these are the

780
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: main four types of darmin. You could be a combination

781
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: of two, like for myself, I had the breakdown, the breakthrough,

782
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: but I'm also overcoming an obstacle that I'm helping others overcome,

783
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: so it could be, you know, a combination. And for

784
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: the one about having a gift, I do want to

785
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: note that there are many many types of gifts out there,

786
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: and our society really focuses on types of gifts related

787
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: to entertainment because we're in such a media based society

788
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: such as you know, a good actor, a good singer,

789
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: a good basketball player, et cetera. But your gift could

790
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: be you host epic dinner parties, or you have a

791
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: really beatiful way of organizing your home, or you make

792
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: people feel really seen and heard, and these are also gifts.

793
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: So oftentimes we all have gifts that we are born with,

794
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: but we just weren't aware of it because our society

795
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: doesn't celebrate it and recognize it as much. So what

796
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: does that feel like for you? Which of these four types?

797
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I definitely kind of agree with you where the breakdown

798
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: and breakthrough? I like, I kind of said, I used

799
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: to be a family lawyer. I had this whole career

800
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: kind of set up, and then there became a moment

801
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: where I was like, what am I doing. I'm not

802
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: living in alignment. This is not what I wanted to do,

803
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: and so I kind of, you know, left everything, took

804
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: a really big risk and was like I'm going to

805
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: go off and do my own thing, and then all

806
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: that and then with that too, with the whole obstacle.

807
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: So there has been quite a few health issues for me,

808
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: and then also a big obstacle that I kind of

809
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: you know teach within this podcast is really the obstacle

810
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: of not fitting in the box of what society thinks

811
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: you should be and who you should be. I guess

812
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: like and disempowering a lot of limiting beliefs that I had,

813
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: and then also sharing that with my audience.

814
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: I love that, and that's such a great example of it.

815
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: Really it's all coming together, right. It's like we have

816
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: gifts and we have obstacles and sometimes we have to

817
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: experience breakdown. So you know, when I share these different systems,

818
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: it's even the archetypes, et cetera. It's not just about one,

819
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: but it's finding your own way of weaving them together.

820
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that.

821
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: And so Sahara, to finish off at talking about your beautiful,

822
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: amazing book, I know this question is going to be

823
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: very difficult, but if you could give your top three

824
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: tips for someone for finding their drama and of course, guys,

825
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: go read the book, you will not regret it. But

826
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: what would they be?

827
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: So my first one that I have everyone start with

828
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: is understanding their darma archetype. So I have these nine

829
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: darma archetypes I've created and you can find it out

830
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: with my free quiz on Dharma archetype quiz dot com.

831
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've taken the quiz yet, George,

832
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: you'd be curious about what yours are. But for me,

833
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: archetypeal work has been the most instrumental thing to help

834
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: me find my dharma because it's allowed me to see

835
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: myself in something greater than me. So I would say,

836
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: take that quiz because you'll walk away with your top

837
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: two dharma archetypes and you'll be able to see like,

838
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: yes I am a teacher, Yes I'm a researcher, a visionary, nurturer,

839
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: et cetera. And it will really give you a tangible

840
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: thing to walk away with. Then I would ask, what

841
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: is the thing I'm the most excited about? So you

842
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: could be excited about healing, or excited about gardening or cars,

843
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: or it could be really anything but excitement or breadcrumbs

844
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: leading you to your dharma. So look at what it

845
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: is you're excited about, because that's the ignition underneath the

846
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: fuel that's going to bring you to your dharma. And

847
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: then the third is what are the obstacles that I've

848
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: overcome or helped others overcome? And it could be something

849
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: that feels as small as like maybe you traveled a

850
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: lot when you were a kid. You moved every year,

851
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: and every year you had to make new friends, or

852
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: maybe you really know how to dress well, or maybe

853
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: you have an epic way of making healthy recipes really quickly.

854
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: So just looking at these different different gifts that you

855
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: have that may have been related to your obstacles. And

856
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: I have this whole five step process called the Dharma

857
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Blueprint process in the book, but just those three components,

858
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: if you just look at your Dharma archetype what you're

859
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: excited about your obstacles, you'll have such a clear sense

860
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: of your purpose.

861
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

862
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: And just what you said at the start, I did

863
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: take the tiss and I came up as and you'll

864
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: probably be out, I guess this. But a visionary and

865
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur.

866
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: Love that that's what you're doing right now. I know.

867
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well please, I want some sort

868
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: of right path.

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Speaker 3: Totally yay.

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Speaker 2: So, Sahara, thank you so much for coming on the

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Speaker 2: podcast and chatting to us about your amazing new book.

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Speaker 2: I've just got a couple of questions to finish the interview,

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Speaker 2: but before we get into that, could you let everyone

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Speaker 2: know where they can find this book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can find it wherever books are sold.

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Speaker 1: And if you head over to my website I am

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Speaker 1: Saharose dot com slash Dharma, you could submit your receipt

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Speaker 1: and I have epic bonuses available for you meditations, tapping practice,

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Speaker 1: embodiment practice, and so much more. So that is I

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Speaker 1: am Saharos dot com slash Dharma, d h A R

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Speaker 1: M A. And then you can also take the quiz

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Speaker 1: at Dharma archetype quiz dot com amazing.

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Speaker 2: So Sahara to finish the interview, I've just got a

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Speaker 2: couple of questions. So we know that twenty twenty was

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Speaker 2: it was a bit of a curveball, I think for

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Speaker 2: most people. And in season four of this podcast, I

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Speaker 2: am really focusing on the new year energy and you know,

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Speaker 2: taking big moves and bold action, because if twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: toward us anything, it is that things don't last and

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Speaker 2: when you're excited about something like you've just got to

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Speaker 2: do it. So I would love to know what bold

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Speaker 2: action will you be taking in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The bold action I will be taking is to train

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Speaker 1: more people to help them find others find their dharmat

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Speaker 1: something I really feel like the world needs right now,

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Speaker 1: we need more dharma coaches out there. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: my big mission I'm doing this year to help more

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Speaker 1: people do this work as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh amazing and so exciting. And last question, so for

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Speaker 2: my girl gang who are looking for a bit of

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Speaker 2: inspiration and motivation to finish off this episode, what is

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Speaker 2: the best piece of advice you have ever received?

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Speaker 1: MM, The best piece of advice that I ever received was,

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Speaker 1: you know, for myself, I was really when I was

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Speaker 1: trying to find my dharma, I was like waiting for

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Speaker 1: approval of others. So just to drop the need to

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Speaker 1: gain the approval of other people and to trust that

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Speaker 1: you know your dharma, and that really gave me a

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Speaker 1: level of freedom to not seek validation, to not seek

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Speaker 1: anyone else giving me a gold star, and just to

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Speaker 1: trust even if it didn't make sense to anyone else

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Speaker 1: around me, and for anyone who you may have this

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Speaker 1: idea and it feels weird or far off or it's

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Speaker 1: not logical, to really trust that and honor it because

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Speaker 1: part of it is related to your dharma.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I love it. Thank you so much, Sahara. I

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Speaker 2: have loved this interview. And oh my god, I love

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Speaker 2: your book so much. And yeah, I'm so excited to

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Speaker 2: have you on the podcast again, and I hope you

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Speaker 2: have an amazing twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Ah, thanks so much for having me Joji.

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Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening for another rn C episode. I

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Speaker 2: really appreciate taking the time to be here with me,

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Speaker 2: and also for taking the time for yourself. If you

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Speaker 2: found this episode helpful, it would be so amazing if

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Speaker 2: you shared it on your stories and tagged us, or

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Speaker 2: simply just send it on to a girlfriend or family

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Speaker 2: member who would benefit from listening. We are an independent

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Speaker 2: podcast run by me and my amazing podcast manager, so

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Speaker 3: Don't the victim the

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Speaker 2: VICTI