1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Ali and your father, who lost the love of his 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: life after she was stalked and killed by her former boss, 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: is prepared to sue the Northern Territory government for letting 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: this violent man slip through the cracks. Now we know 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: that Darwin business owner and mother Sheena Fairfield, was killed 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: on November tenth, twenty twenty two. Her husband Mick Fairfield, 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: has spoken exclusively to zz Avril, the Northern Territory News 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Court reporter, about the shocking situation, and Zizi joins me 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: on the line. Good morning, Zzy, good morning, thanks so 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. Now Zizi mix sat 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: down with you and shared his little family's harrowing and 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: heartbreaking story. I know that you've got a three part 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: series in the paper which covers the situation extensively. Talk 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: me through what you've published. 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: So I've had a beautiful set down with Meck shortly 16 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: after his wife's killer found not guilty by reason of 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: mental impairments. Mick has been three years really not knowing 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: what happened to Sena, the lead up, the motive, the circumstances, 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: any of those details, because he could have been a 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: witness in her trial, which meant that essentially, in order 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: to preserve the right to a fair trial, he was 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: not allowed to have any information about what happened to 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: his life. Now that we've reached the stage where a 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: jury trial is really impossible, he's still not able to 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: access that information and is feeling quite betrayed and left 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: in the dark about what has happened over these three 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: years and the impact had on his family. 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: It is unbelievable, you know, Yeah, like my heart breaks 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: for him. I know he's contacted us on a few occasions, 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: and it's been really difficult to you know, for any 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: to be able to talk a lot about the situation, 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: as you said, because it's got to go, it had 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: to go through that court process. So ceazy for our 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: listeners this morning. What exactly is the situation as it stands. 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: So we're still waiting on the complete determination of what's 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: going to happen to her killer jo a clop Up. 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: At the moment, he's considered unfit faith trial and unfit 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: to plead in the territory we don't have a forensic 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: mental health facility, which means he's essentially going to be 40 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: indefinitely held in prison as if it's determined there is 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: no possibility of his safe relief. So they're what's called 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: in the prison system as a part to a prisoner yep. 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: And every twelve months his risk status will be reviewed, 44 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: which will evaluate whether or not he can be safely reliefed. 45 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: And what Nick has said to me is that that's 46 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: uncertainty has really meant he can't stay in the territory 47 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: because he will never know what year his wife's killer 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: will be released. 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: It is just like it's an unbelievable situation for he 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: and his daughter to be in. I know that misspoken 51 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: quite extensively to you about his heartbreak and also you 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: know about those concerns and about the concerns that he 53 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: had about the killer well slipping through the cracks. 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've got someone who's been found so mentally 55 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: incapacitated that he wasn't in control of his actions. I 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: think the family has rightly been left with some questions 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: about were their opportunities for the health system, for the police, 58 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: for any other of our safety nets to have caught 59 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: him before it escalated to this point. Yeah, because he 60 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have any of that information, he's really just you know, 61 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: left asking these questions. So it's very difficult that family 62 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: and to really not know how this has occurred and 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: what red flag might have been missed. 64 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: And I know that today you know, you have indeed 65 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: as well published quite an extensive story you know about 66 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: I guess the lack of support as well for him 67 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: and his daughter through what has been like an unbelievably 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: harrowing time. 69 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so five year old Brooklyn witnessed her the killing 70 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: and has obviously been left with some like really deep 71 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: psychological scars. She's been able to access counseling. But what 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: the family has really had to reckon with is the 73 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: victims compensation scheme in the territory, which caps out at 74 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars. And if you have to leave your home, 75 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: restart your life, support your child, and balance all that 76 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: with a mortgage and rent and daily bills and any 77 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: trauma that you might need to take away from work, 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: it really doesn't lead very much at all. 79 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: No, at a point in time that's just you know, 80 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: that would be unbelievably difficult for them. 81 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh it. I cannot imagine what that family has been through, 82 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: or really any family that's trying to navigate what seems 83 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: like a very arduous, bureaucratic process while you're dealing with their. 84 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Own grief spot on, I mean czy in terms of, 85 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, the broader issue I guess when it comes 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: to dealing with violent offenders with mental illness as well. 87 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we touched on this before, but it does 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: sort of show that we've you know, that we have 89 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: got a situation in the Northern Territory where there really 90 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: isn't you know, adequate services, I guess in a lot 91 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: of ways, or enough. 92 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: No, So what we hear from mental health sector workers 93 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: is that we only really treat people when they reach 94 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: the acute stage in the territory, when they're at a crisis, 95 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: when they're no longer safe for themselves, but in this 96 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: instance that it appears that they're not safe for other people. 97 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: We don't have those social safety nets and we don't 98 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: have enough funding for those non acute community based services 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: which can really catch people before they become a real 100 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: risk to themselves and others. 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, of course, you know, as we were 102 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: talking about just a moment ago, ensuring that there's adequate 103 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: funding as well for the likes of victims of crime, 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: so that you know, when we have got a situation 105 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: like this one where you know that then there can 106 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: potentially be greater support for a family like this exactly. 107 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: And what we've heard from the Colonial as well is 108 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: it seems that Mick and Brooklyn actually got their victims 109 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: compensation dealt with quite quickly, we heard in the Coronial 110 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: for domestic violence, but some victims were waiting eight or 111 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: nine years for compensation that only arrived after they had passed. 112 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: So this is a system that's like clearly overburdened and 113 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: we don't have that support. 114 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got to make sure that they provided the 115 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: support that well, that they're provided the funding so that 116 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: they're able to provide that support to Territorians in the 117 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: way that they need cz to anybody out there listening 118 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: this morning that is keen to go and read this 119 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: three part series. I'm assuming that it is up on 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory News website. 121 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Yes, it's all available on our website and all the 122 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: stories will link together for the easy. 123 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: To find zz. I really appreciate you having a chat 124 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: with us this morning. I think it's so very important 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: that mixed story is heard, so I really appreciate you 126 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: having a chat with us today. 127 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. Thank you so much for your time. 128 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: Thank you