1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Do you ever have days when you can literally not 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: get enough food. No matter what you eat, you just 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: cannot get satisfied, and then you find yourself overdoing the 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: calories and feeling overstuffed and prostrated. On today's episode of 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: The Nutrition Couch, we chat insatiable hunger, what it can mean, 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: and how to take control when it hits. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: I am Sissy Burrow and I'm Leanne Wood, and. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: Together we bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: that keeps you up to date on everything you need 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to know in the world of pnutrition as well as 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: all things hunger. We have some brand new research on 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: what kids eat after school that any parent listening will 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: find very interesting. We have a well known supermarket pizza 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: that we both have some thoughts on, and our list 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: the question is all about fish oil supplements, So Leanne, 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: this topic came to mind yesterday when I just had 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: one of those days where I was so hungry. And 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I find it doesn't happen so much now as I 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: get a little bit older, but I literally just could 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: not get enough food, like everything, I just was still 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: just snacky all afternoon, and I thought, I don't think 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: we've actually. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: Spoken about it. 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: On the podcast, not recently anyway, because certainly I will 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: discuss with clients days where they are really really hungry, 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and I will say to them, actually, probably what you 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: could have thought about was actually what do you really 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: feel like in terms of. 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: What will bring you satisfaction even more than hunger. 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: But I thought it was time to maybe discuss with 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: our listeners some of the reasons that can happen and 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: what are the best ways to manage it so you 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: don't feel out of control, because I think many of 34 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: us when we're feeling out of control around food, that 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: can trigger that idea of binge eating and restriction and 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: all those things. 37 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: We want to avoid. 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: So firstly, there can be many reasons that you may 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: have that insatiable hunger. Certainly there is research to show 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: that around the time of your period, even as much 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: as seven days out, the body does require some extra calories. 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: It's not a lot, but does require some, and certainly 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: in many instances that may explain why you are feeling 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: particularly hungry or craving perhaps sweet food. That's one quite 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: common reason. The next, in my experience is if people 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: have been really active but also being quite calorie conscious, 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: and if they think back, they actually haven't been eating 48 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot for a period of time, They may 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: have even lost several kilos, and then all of a 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: sudden they just notice a significant increase in appetite. 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: For me, that is basically the. 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Body telling you that you need more calories, and if 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: you continue to fuel with low calorie food until you 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: reach that level of satisfaction, you will keep eating. And 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: the third reason can be because your protein intake is inadequate. 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Now we know from research there's a hypothesis called the 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: protein leverage hypothesis that proposes that when you have had 58 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: insufficient protein in the diet, you will basically keep eating 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: until you get enough. So, for example, if you've had 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: a day where you might have started with just toast 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: for breakfast or coffee, you may have been snacking on 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: things like fruit, yogurt, banana, bread, and at lunchtime had. 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: A plain salad. 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: All of a sudden later the body may realize that 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: you haven't had enough protein, and that might explain why 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: you have that terrible hunger. So that's probably slightly different 67 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: to what I'm talking about when you have a whole 68 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: day of it, but that can explain why in the 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: afternoon York buglucoast may go low and you really are 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: just really craving something substantial and seem to keep eating 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: until you satisfy that desire. So before we launch into 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: strategies to manage it, have I missed anything? 73 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I myself have experienced that hunger, 74 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: but it's very different. Like hunger is one thing, and 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: then that what I call it, that bottomless pit hunger 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: where nothing you eat just seems to satisfy, like you 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: just want to eat and eat and eat all day 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: and no matter if it's a large meal or small meal, 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: a snack, nothing takes the edge of this hunger. And 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: I used to experience it like you, like, very rarely, 81 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: but it was always around the time of my period. 82 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: So I always say to women if they say to me, oh, 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: I'm just nothing's touching the edges today, like I'm so hungry, 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, just check you. You know your cycle calculator, 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: is your period you or Secondly, I had I did 86 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: suggest this to a friend many years ago, and I said, 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: could you be pregnant? And it turns out that she was, 88 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: Like for some women in those very early you know 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: weeks in pregnancy. It could just be out of control hunger, 90 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: but I feel like it's something that's very short often 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: and goes away. So I think a lot of us 92 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: freak out, particularly if the goal is weight loss, that 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, I just ate so much food because 94 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: I was so hungry and nothing would touch the edges. 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: But in my experience, it doesn't tend to last more 96 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: than a day or so, so it's not something that 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: should be going on for weeks and weeks and weeks 98 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: on end. If it is, I would definitely say that 99 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: that's cause for further investigation. But I think just a random, 100 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: super super super hungry day every now and then is 101 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: nothing at no cause for concern. Potentially. The other thing 102 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: is when you've done a huge workout and you know 103 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: you're supposed to feel for that workout, but often when 104 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: you're doing a really high intensity workout or a longer workout, 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: like you might be training for a marathon or something, 106 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: and you've gone out and you smashed twenty five thirty 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: k run, which I a friend of mine do recently, 108 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: and she couldn't eat for the rest of the day. 109 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: She was that just fatigued and tired that she couldn't eat, 110 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: and then two days later her hunger skyrocketed. So potentially 111 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: you've done it really really large workout, haven't fueled probably 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: and a day or two days later that's when the 113 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: hunger really kicks in. So that could potentially be another 114 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: reason as well. But I feel like for females it's 115 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: generally around the hormones. 116 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Definitely, and I think that probably explains mine somewhat because 117 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: I hadn't had that feeling for quite some time, and 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, that's hormonal later reflecting. 119 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: But the other thing that's just sprung to mind is 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: if you've had a. 121 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Big night you may notice the following day, once you 122 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: sort of recovered from a hangover, that you have that 123 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: extreme hunger too, And that's because of the effect of 124 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: alcohol metabolism. Because the liver is very very busy processing 125 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: any alcohol in your system, it impacts your blood gluepost levels, 126 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: and that's why you may also have quite pronounced appetite 127 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: a day after you've been had a big night out. 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: So that's sort of another reason. 129 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: But I guess in terms of management strategies, I think, 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: first of all, China knowledge why it could be happening, 131 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: because when we understand why something's the case, it's easier 132 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: to manage, So you know, have a consideration. Have I 133 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: been eating enough protein through the day, Could I be 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: on my period? Have I changed any medication? Have I 135 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of different exercise? But more commonly, 136 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: I think my sort of gut feeling with it is 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: that it happens to people who have been reasonably strict 138 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: with their meal plan for quite some time and eating 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: really really well, religiously and possibly lost five seventeen kilos, 140 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's just not the 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: food that you were once eating is no longer satisfying. 142 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: So the first tip I would give is you've got 143 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: to get away from the idea of snacks, because snacks 144 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: inevitably are not balanced meals and they're not satisfying. 145 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: So if you sort of feel that bit of. 146 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Hunger and you have a bit of yogurt, and then 147 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: you might have a cheese and crackers, and then you're still. 148 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: Not satisfied, so you grab. 149 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: A handful of nuts, you end up eating more calories 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: in total, and yet you're still not satisfied because you're 151 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: trying to basically stick to this plan of eating really 152 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: healthy food. But quite possibly it's not what's going to 153 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: also satisfy you. So when you have that real urge 154 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to eat something, try and just take a moment to think, actually, 155 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: what would I have right now as a meal that 156 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: would satisfy me. Now it might be a burger leanne, 157 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: it might be a whole stirfry, it may be a subway, 158 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: but it's really important that you actually eat that it's 159 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: something that will satisfy you. And that I believe is 160 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: a big part of it, is that we're in our 161 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: head psychologically about thinking what we should eat as opposed 162 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: to thinking what we actually feel like eating. So you know, 163 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: it may not be the healthiest option, but you may 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: find after you have it, all of a sudden you 165 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: get rid of the cravings. And certainly some of the 166 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: work done by an appetite researcher Amanda Sainsbury Salish used 167 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: to be at the Garvin who did a lot of 168 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: work on dieteris who had lost a lot of weight 169 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and prevented regain. She found that they almost needed a 170 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: diet break, that they needed that. 171 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Period where they literally went off. 172 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: And ate what they felt like, and not only did 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: that support continual weight loss, but it had something to 174 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: do with like a refeeding situation where the body realized 175 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: that it wasn't in a calorie deficit, almost similar to 176 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: reverse dieting in a way, realize the body wasn't in 177 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: a calorie deficit, there were plenty of calories around, and 178 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: that actually allowed people to continue to lose weight over time. 179 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: So we're not talking about a week long binge here. 180 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: We're saying that occasionally, once or twice a month, when 181 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: you really feel like having something that may be more indulgent, 182 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: that may be hiring, fact that maybe not be something 183 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: that you normally eat, it's okay to have it. It 184 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: might be chocolate bar, it might be an ice cream, 185 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: it might be a better Jerry's. 186 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: But it's really. 187 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: Important you take that time to think, what am I 188 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: really feeling like now, and what will satisfy me and 189 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: in my experience, something that's warm, something that's salty, something that's. 190 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: A real meal. 191 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: And you'll find the funny thing is you'll find that 192 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: once you almost give yourself psychological permission to have it, you. 193 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: Can't even eat very much of it. 194 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: So, say it's pasta, you might go to a restaurant 195 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: and have a seafood pasta. After two or three mouthfuls, 196 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: you're probably quite satisfied because you've actual you let go 197 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: of that cognitive restraint. But it's when we're starting to 198 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: play with our head and restrain, restrain and restrain, we 199 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: end up binging anyway on things that aren't really satisfying. 200 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: So that would be my first tip or second two 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: tips together, have a meal, not snacks, and second, really 202 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: take that time to consider what you feel like and 203 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: where you can make it healthy. So for example, they 204 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: just say you're craving pizza, rather than go and eat 205 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: a whole pizza. 206 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about pizza in a minute. 207 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: Rather than going at eating a whole pizza, order the 208 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: pizza you like or make one, make it as healthy 209 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: as you can with loads of their gies, sit down 210 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: at the table, have two pieces, maybe three, with a 211 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: big salad, and eat it properly as a meal, rather 212 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: than standing at the kitchen bench and shoving it in 213 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: piece after piece. Because that's another observation I have when 214 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: my clients are off or they're having a meal off, 215 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: they grossly overeat the volumes of food because they're doing 216 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: it mindlessly. They're not sitting down and savoring and enjoying it. 217 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: So sure, have the burger, have the ice cream, have 218 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: the pizza, but sit down and have it properly, enjoy it, 219 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: eat mindfully, and I guarante tea you will eat far 220 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: less than if you're doing it the other way, which 221 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: is almost on the slide binge, eating it and feeling 222 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: bad about it because. 223 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: You're doing it as if you shouldn't be. What are 224 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: your tips? 225 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree, Like I think giving yourself that 226 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: permission to eat, because no food is inherently good or bad. 227 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: You know you're not gonna derail your weight loss plan 228 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: from one burger. It's like you said, it's the whole 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: weekend off, it's an entire week off. We think, I'll 230 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: screw it. Now I've had the burger, I'm going to 231 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: eat everything else. So it's about changing that relationship with 232 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: food over time. But when it is that true bottomless 233 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: pit hunger, I agree with you. You have to eat main meals. 234 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: You can't eat snacks. Snacks won't even touch the edges. 235 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: You've got to focus on a well balanced meal. Protein 236 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: has to be with fats, have to be with carps. Okay, 237 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: if you want a burger, make sure it's got to 238 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: meat patty on there. If you don't eat meat, make 239 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: sure it's got some sort of protein on there. Make 240 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: sure it's got some cheese or avocado for some fat, 241 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: because fat provides really nice mouthfeel and can actually lead 242 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: to a lot more satisfaction than the meal. I feel 243 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: like a lot of people are trying to do too 244 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: low fat, whereas fat is really important for hormones and 245 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: a satiety and just the enjoyment factor with your meal. 246 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: So make sure you've got fat attached to the meal. 247 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: An example is I had a client the other day 248 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: and she said, I'm really just craving two minute noodles. 249 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 3: I said, okay, cool, let's roll with it. Two minute 250 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: noodles are predominantly carbs. What can we add to it? 251 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: So she threw on a tin of tuna and added 252 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: some frozen veggies into that, and I think, I can't 253 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: remember what we did for fat portion, but we well 254 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: rounded at the meal. And after that she was like, 255 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm so much more satisfied than just eating the two 256 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: minute noodles by itself. So as long as you're trying 257 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: to balance the meal yet still giving yourself permission to 258 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: eat the thing that you'll enjoy. Like you said, I 259 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: think it's so much better because I feel like that 260 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: bottomless pit hunger, which I'm going to term it has 261 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: two elements. One it is true physical hunger, but I 262 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: think two there is an element of what I call 263 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: head hunger there as well, where like you said, we've 264 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: just been restricted for far too long, or we've overtrained 265 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: and underfueled and we haven't actually given our body what 266 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: it needed. So it's kind of rebellion going, Hey, I 267 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: feel like eating the entire pantry. So for some of 268 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: us it might be we've had a super stressful day 269 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: and we want to reward ourselves. Maybe you know, we've 270 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: been so good or weak, we jumped on the scales, 271 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: the scales went down, and we think, great, now I 272 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: deserve to reward myself with XYZ. So I think hunger 273 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: is a difficult term where a lot of us aren't 274 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: so much in tune with is it coming from our 275 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: physical stomach or is it coming more from the head 276 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: or the mind. Because there's an element of reward or 277 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: enjoyment or something related to it, and there's nothing wrong 278 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: with that, but being able to distinguish that is a 279 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: really important part of your journey long term. So really 280 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: think what do I actually feel like and why is it? 281 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Because I deserve a reward? Can I go and book 282 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: myself a massage? Then go out and take myself for 283 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: a nice burger and fries with a side salad, And 284 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: perhaps then you don't need half the burger and fries 285 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: and enjoy it and not overeaten and feel guilty afterwards 286 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: because you've actually done a little bit of self care 287 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: or nourishment beforehand as well. So I think that element 288 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: of self care and recognizing where is this hunger coming 289 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: from and what is my body actually trying to tell 290 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: me can be a really powerful key to this just 291 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: insane hunger that we sometimes do experience, particularly as women. 292 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: I've never really heard a man complain of this, have you? 293 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think men are not as cognitively aware of it, 294 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: but I think it often happens when they arrive home 295 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: from work and they have an eaten all day and 296 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: then they're like stuffing. 297 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: But that's slightly different. 298 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Again, I think probably you know, really the difference in 299 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: genders is a big part of hormonal but I do 300 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: think you know, if it is happening, just wants to 301 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: try to month the problem. But if it's happening a lot, 302 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: that would be when I'd be really taking a closer 303 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: look at your baseline diet, because my gut feeling would 304 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: be that it's inadequate in calories and or protein, which 305 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: is basically driving that overeating at. 306 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Certain time points. 307 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: Or I have clients who perhaps exercise fasted, so they 308 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: might exercise sort of late afternoon and then they arrive 309 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: home and just can't get enough food, whereas they would 310 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: have been better to eat afternoon snack and then exercise. 311 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: So if your glucose control is sensitive, the timing of 312 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: your training and food intake's is really really important, and 313 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to go more than two or three 314 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: hours without exercising before you had a snack to keep 315 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: the gluecose levels controlled, because if blood glucose levels dropped, 316 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: that's when you'll get that terrible drive as well. 317 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: I'd so terrible but out of control feeling. 318 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: All rightually, Yeah, And I just am excited because I 319 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: was looking for a topic to talk about today and 320 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: this just popped up on my news link just this afternoon, 321 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: and I loved it. For so many reasons, and it's 322 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: a study that has looked at the dietary habits of 323 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: preschool aged children before and after drop off in the 324 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: pick up, I should say, in the afternoon study out 325 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: of the States, and I just loved it because it 326 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: certainly thumbs up an observation I have with kids and 327 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: had working back as a pediatric dietitian. And so it 328 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: came from researchers at the Boston Medical Center and Cincinnati 329 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Children's Hospital, which is one of the biggest children hospital 330 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: in the States, and it looked at the dietary intake 331 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: of more than three hundred children in childcare and found 332 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: in the hour before and after pick up, kids ate 333 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: fewer serves of dairy and vegetables compared to other times 334 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: in the day, but in the one hour after pick up, 335 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: they consume twenty percent of their total daily calorie intake 336 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and twenty two percent of their total daily sugar through 337 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: salty and sweet. 338 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Snack foods and sugary drinks. 339 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: So basically, it's saying to parents everywhere, because I think 340 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: you would definitely replicate this after school pickup is that 341 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: they're on track in their daily intake, but once. 342 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: Parents or care has picked them up. 343 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: That is the time for treats, that is the time 344 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: for snacks, and it has a very powerful flow and 345 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: affect to kids dietary intake. 346 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: Because this is my observation land, and there's two scenarios. 347 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: There's childcare and then there's also school. So in typical 348 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: long daycare, the kids are fed are very well balanced nutrition. 349 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: There's a lot of rules and regulations about what kids 350 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: can have at childcare. There's no generally very little processed food. 351 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: There's a certain number of vegetables, a hot meal at 352 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: lunch time, et cetera, et cetera, rules about packaged food. 353 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: But then what happens is parents or care has picked 354 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: the kids up, the little kids quite early, often three 355 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: or four o'clock, and then they might go to the 356 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: shopping center or that's when the treats come at cafes, 357 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: And what are the treats for kids at cafes. 358 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: They have fruit juices, they have. 359 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Banana bread, they have muffins, they have the biscuits with 360 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the Smarties on the top. And we've talked about it 361 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: on the podcast before that for small chill, it's just 362 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: way too concentrated in those sugars. But the flow on 363 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: effect is then they of course don't eat their dinner 364 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: because they're not overly hungry, and the meat and veggies 365 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: gets thrown out the window, So it really displaces their 366 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: total dietreat intake. And that's what that study is suggesting. 367 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at what school kids do, 368 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: because school lunch boxes tend to be so heavily carbohydrate focused, 369 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: because there's a number of foods you can't necessarily send 370 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: to school, like you're not sending. 371 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: A lot of meat, you're not sending a lot of dairy. 372 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Because it's often hot in astray of Chiclicki and Queensland, 373 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: So a lot of what they've had all days fruit, 374 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: fruit snacks, packet snacks, musley bars. Keep in mind the 375 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: research loads that kids have on every three packet snacks 376 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: in their lunch box a day, Biscuits, sandwiches often on 377 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: white or whole meal bread with very little protein filling 378 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: because that doesn't go with school sandwich as well, so 379 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: they having often plane spreads. It's all carbohydrate. So then 380 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: they get to three o'clock pick up, their energy is 381 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: as low as it can be. They've had a peak 382 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: of carboy day and a drop. 383 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: They're starving. You know, how many kids come home they're starving, 384 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: and what do we feed them? 385 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: Biscuits, ice creams, coffee shop food cakes, snacks on the 386 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: way to sports training. 387 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: We're not giving them very well, you may, but far less. 388 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: Often are we giving them cheese and crackers or a nutbar, 389 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: because they're not foods that we're programmed or can easily 390 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: find at cafes and local shops. So I thought it 391 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: was just lending itself to a discussion about that period 392 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: of time because this research shows that it has a 393 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: pronounced effect on their overall dietary patterns, impacting their intake 394 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: of dairy and vegetables, but also a practical discussion for 395 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: listeners about how do you manage that time, whether you've 396 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: got starving toddlers or whether you've got primary school aged 397 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: children who are so hungry, how do you feel and 398 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: satisfy them without derailing their dinner. 399 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely couldn't agree more because I think and also 400 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: the other element of that is how many times do 401 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: launchwards this come home basically untouched because kids just want 402 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: to get out in the playground and have some fun 403 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: and run around, particularly you know, younger boys, they just 404 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: want to go out and play sports. In the thirty 405 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: or so minutes that they have, they just want to 406 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: keep the ball around. So a lot of the times 407 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: kids aren't really eating that much, or what they are eating, 408 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, is heavily carbohydrate based. And for children, 409 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 3: we want a higher carb diet absolutely, but just going 410 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: back to our hunger segment, if we're not actually giving 411 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: them some fats and some protein to basically slow down 412 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: the digestion of the carbohydrate in the tummy, they will 413 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: be hungrier for longest. So it is a good idea 414 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: to take it with you, maybe like a pouch yogurt, 415 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 3: and kids don't need the higher protein yogurts. They just 416 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: need a standard yogurt. It's a good serf of calcium, 417 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: it's a good serve you know, a smaller you know, 418 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: maybe three four five grams of protein depending on the 419 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 3: size of the yogurt. Choosing crackers, like Susie mentioned, a 420 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: lot of schools, particularly in Australia, almost as I know 421 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: what a nut free, so taking them depending on how 422 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: old they are, you know, some nuts to snack on, 423 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: a nut bar, maybe a bit of bread with some 424 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: nut paste on there. Because that it's actually a bit 425 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: of fat on the carb to slow down the digestion. 426 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: Other ideas could be some roasted chickpeas. I went over 427 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 3: to a friend's house the other day and she said, 428 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: the kids at amamaie beans. Just warmed up that amount 429 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: of beans in the microwave and sprinkle a little bit 430 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: of them. So that's an awesome little snack as well. 431 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: If you go past a sushi train, getting a bit 432 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: of atamameo beans in for some protein and fiber, it's 433 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: a great idea. Or just anything savory, you know, if 434 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: you've made some savory muffins, you've got some little kish, 435 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 3: some little frittatas or little egg slice, that sort of thing. 436 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 3: Can just tie them over for dinner and be very 437 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: careful not to overfeed them snacks because a lot of 438 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: fussy toddlers and young children are overdoing the snacks and 439 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: then when it comes to meal times, they don't want 440 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: a bar of meal time. And I, certainly, as a parent, 441 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: even as a dietitian, have done this with little mea 442 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: where I've given her a couple of too many stacks 443 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: and then she's not eating properly at meal times. So 444 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: I know that basically, we do breakfast, we do a 445 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: few you know, snacks in the morning tea, then we 446 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: do lunch, and then I'm very strict with the snacking 447 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: in the afternoon, and then I'll bring forward and have 448 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: an earlier dinner so she eats well at dinner, because 449 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: I think a lot of parents are providing too many snacks. 450 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: Then they're not really having a properly balanced dinner because 451 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: they're not really hungry for it because they come home 452 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: and like you said, Susie, they're just over eating in 453 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: the afternoon, and then they don't need a well balanced dinner. 454 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: So we might be providing a great dinner, but kids 455 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 3: aren't necessarily eating it because they're so full from all 456 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: the afternoon snacking. 457 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: And I'll take it a step further. And I did 458 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: this a lot more when my kids were smaller, so 459 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: it might be more relevant to preschool aged children. But 460 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: I will always if I'm going on a road trip 461 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: with my kids, or when I used to drive a 462 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: long way to pick them up after preschool, I would 463 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: always pack my kids, particularly like cucumbers, cucumber cut up carrot. 464 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: As they got older, things like strawberries, which are fairly 465 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: relatively low in sugars, and I found in the car 466 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: they would always eat them. 467 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: And I even find now if I'm. 468 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Going on a road trip, if I've got cucumbers, cut 469 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: up carrot. 470 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: Every child will have different veggies. 471 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Some kids might like baby tomatoes or green beans, whatever 472 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: your child will eat, but I find in the car 473 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: it's a great time to get some of those veggies in, 474 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: or even at home, I'll often give a cup of 475 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: frozen peas before dinner and my little boys will either 476 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: have tomatoes with salt or cucumber with salt. Don't even 477 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: ask how we've got salt there, but at least they 478 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: eat them. And I find that then they've had two 479 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: or three veggie serves before dinner, So I find that 480 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: a really opportune time to feed them that low calorie 481 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: vegetable block beforehand. And then if they just have a 482 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: piece of fish or chicken and maybe some sweet potato fries, 483 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: I don't care because they've already eaten a lot of 484 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: veggies between school lunch box and after school. So if 485 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: you've got a little bit of time, don't underestimate how 486 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: powerful it is feeding them in the car, because it's 487 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: as opposed to saying you have to eat vegetables if 488 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: you just hand them a snack box which, as you described, 489 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: might have some cut up fruit, might have some roasted 490 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: chickpeas in there. It might have some cut up cucumber, 491 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: might have some baby tomatoes, like a little snack box, 492 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: and they pick at it a million times better than 493 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: of course pulling into a cafe. And then there's this 494 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: jumpboth size piece of banana bread and they're hungry. It's 495 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of prep time required, but I think 496 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: that can work wonders, particularly if you've got a bit 497 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: of car time each day, and then you know you 498 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: can always pull the lunch box out too. 499 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: I know my nanny does that with the kids. So 500 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: it's just a. 501 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Really good reminder about how that time can derail many 502 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: people's diets, particularly children. But I found it just fascinating 503 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: then because it was the first piece of research I've 504 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: ever seen that specifically looked at that pickup time, and 505 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, that's exactly what happens. So something for 506 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: parents when you've got opportunities to take some healthier options 507 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: to take with you. 508 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. And the next segment, Susie is all about pizza, 509 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: so we thought we did. I did bring this up. 510 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: I think on the Potty a few a few episodes ago, 511 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: we were talking about the fro Pro pizza and I 512 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: think it's a really interesting product because on paper, like 513 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: it looks really great, you know what I mean, like 514 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: compared to the frozen pizza range. We've talked about the 515 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: hell Stars before. I'm gonna review the frou Pro Barbecue 516 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: Meat Lover's Pizza today. So I think it's in Colson alwast. 517 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: It's not inexpensive, like I think. I don't know from 518 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: memory what is it. Maybe you can look that up 519 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: for SUSI price wise, but basically it's got four hell Stars. 520 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: So what that means is that it's not a four 521 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 3: star product compared to other frozen pizzas within the range. 522 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: So the health stars are comparing like foods within a 523 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: similar range. So within the category of frozen pizzas, the 524 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: frou Pro protein pizza is four stars. So it's probably 525 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: about eighty percent better than the other types of frozen 526 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: pizzas on the market. So on paper, it sounds really good. 527 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: It's high protein, it's fairly low calor for a serve. 528 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: So they're saying that a serving size is half a pizza, 529 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: so depending on how many slices you cut that into. 530 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 3: The bases are quite thin as well, and they're saying 531 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: that it's much lower carve, like it's fifty percent less 532 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: carb than a traditional frozen pizza. It's a lot higher 533 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: in sugar, and they're marketing it as low sugar, but 534 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: I don't I wouldn't really see how most pizzas would 535 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: be high in sugar, perhaps if you're using like a 536 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 3: sweet barbecue sauce or something, but regardless, it's still on 537 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: paper a much I guess better option. When you look 538 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: at the calories and the macros, you would think, particularly 539 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: if your goal is fat loss or a bit of 540 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: muscle gain, that it looks really good on paper. So 541 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: a serve which is half the pizza is about fourteen 542 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: hundred killer jeels, which is roughly three hundred and fifty calories, 543 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: so quite lean for a pizza. Like if you would 544 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: and picked up a Dominoes or got a pizza at 545 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: a Italian restaurant, a whole pizza would be probably easily 546 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: one thousand calories, which mean half would be about five 547 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: hundred calories, So three fifty caloris is actually relatively good 548 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: for half the pizza, twenty six point three grams of 549 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: protein in half of it. Now some of it will 550 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: talk about the ingredients in a second is because they've 551 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 3: modified the base itself to be higher protein. And then 552 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: this one that I've chosen is a barbecue meat lover, 553 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: so some of the toppings are a bit of ham 554 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: and porxa's a bit of protein as well. So twenty 555 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: six grams of protein is quite high, and that's something 556 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: that we would recommend if the goal is fat loss 557 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: or muscle gain is having about twenty to thirty grams 558 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: of protein per serve. Fat Wise, we've got thirteen point 559 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: five grams, with saturated being five point four grams, so 560 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 3: saturated fat is higher. But compared to a traditional like 561 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: barbecue meat lover's pizza at dominos or at crustal wherever 562 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: you like to get your pizza, significantly less fat than 563 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: if you bought a pizza out at a restaurant. Carbo wise, again, 564 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: significantly lower carb twenty seven point five grams of carbohydrates 565 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: or about you know, just less than to what we 566 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: would call carbohydrate exchanges, or traditionally about you know, about 567 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: the equivalent of two slices of bread, so quite good 568 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: for a frozen pizza. Sugar's four point six grams dietary fiber, 569 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: whopping Susie eleven point four grams of dietary fiber per serve. 570 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: Some people with the sensitive Tommy might say that that's 571 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: too much and also whopping a sodium twelve hundred and 572 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: forty three milligrams of sodium and half that pizza, Susie. 573 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: So if you were to eat that entire pizza, that 574 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: would only be seven hundred calories. I say only be 575 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: compared to if you went and got a pizza at 576 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: a takeaway shop or an Italian restaurant. That would still 577 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: be lower calories, but you would be consuming two thy 578 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: five hundred milligrams of sodium. You would be consuming your 579 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: entire daily more than your entire daily indic of sodium 580 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 3: if you were to eat this whole pizza. So if 581 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: you have issues with blood pressure, or you're in a 582 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: fluid restriction or any sort of cardiac cals, this is 583 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: certainly not the product for you. It's extremely high in sodium. 584 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: And then when we break down the ingredients, sus it. 585 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Because I did have a client that sent me this 586 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: and she was like, it's got four stars, and I 587 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: must say I have bought this because I wanted to 588 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: give an honest review. Taste wise, it's okay. Is it 589 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: anything like I mean, David and I have a pizza 590 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: rove and so we're very biased. Is it anything like 591 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 3: our pizza oven? Absolutely not. But for a frozen pizza, 592 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: it wasn't too bad. The base was quite thin, like 593 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: it was almost a little bit too thin for my liking, 594 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 3: Like it wasn't kind of like a little bit of 595 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: doiness to it. And taste wise, it was it was 596 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: like meh, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't 597 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: super super tasty. It wasn't delicious, but it also wasn't bad. 598 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: Like I'm giving it maybe maybe like six and a 599 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: half out of ten wise, like it wasn't terrible, but 600 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: it also wasn't something that I'd be rushing back to 601 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: the shops to get. But here's the kicker, right, the 602 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: ingredient list is about a mile long. So this is 603 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: a product. And this is why I wanted to talk 604 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 3: about it, Susie, because on paper it looks quite good. 605 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: It looks like, you know, you're hitting your calories. Your 606 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: Macro's got a whopping them out of fiber in there. 607 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: Like the only thing I'd say is missing is some veggie. 608 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: So throw some extra veggies on before you cook it, 609 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: or have it with a nice side salad to get 610 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: some extra nutrients up. But this is a processed food, 611 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: and I'm even going to go so far as to 612 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 3: say it's an ultra processed food that has been modified 613 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: to make it appear far more healthier than it is. 614 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: It's still a pizza at the end of the day. 615 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 3: If you like it, if you want to buy it, 616 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: if you enjoy pizza, absolutely it's not a bad option. 617 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of us can be fooled 618 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: into these health halos where we think that foods are 619 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: a lot healthier than they would ideally be. And I 620 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: think some people are probably eating this product multiple times 621 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: a week. If this is your choice of you know, 622 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: quote unquote treat on a Friday night, I don't have 623 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: a problem with that. But if you're eating this three 624 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: five times a week because it fits in with your 625 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: calories and your macros, I think you're fooling yourself because 626 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: there's not many health benefits from this besides the fact 627 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: that it probably slides nicely into your macro account for 628 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: the day, because you may even got to bother going 629 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: through this ingredient, Lis Susie. It's massive, like it's about 630 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: fifty seven plus ingredients on there, and they have, as 631 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: I said, they've been modified to increase the fiber, increase 632 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: the protein, reduced down the amount of carbohydrate in there. 633 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: So it's certainly not something that is a whole food 634 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: based product. If you got some Lebanese bread or a 635 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: nice whole grain wrap, put a bit of tomato sauce 636 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: and they added a bit of protein and some veggies, 637 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: that would be a thousand times better and probably very 638 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: similar calories compared to something like this. Is this better 639 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: than like a Domino's pizza, Yeah, potentially probably, yes, probably, 640 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's certainly not as healthy 641 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: as what I think people have been led to believe 642 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: or it's been marketed at. I don't have anything wrong 643 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: with it, as I said, I did buy it, But 644 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 3: for me, I think I'd much rather buy an authentic 645 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: Italian based pizza, have two slices, big size sele with it, 646 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: and purely get that enjoyment and satisfaction out of it, 647 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: because from a taste perspective. I didn't really feel that's 648 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 3: satisfied after having a couple of slices of it. That 649 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 3: was my kind of review. 650 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: It's thirteen dollars. 651 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's thirteen. There's no way budget Queen me would 652 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: have paid thirteen dollars, No way. 653 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wanted to quickly talk about everything you 654 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: say about it. 655 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: I agree. 656 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: I think we talked about the burritos last time. They're 657 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: just they're really processed. But I just want to talk 658 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: about a pizza that I love because if anyone had 659 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: these pizzas, I just think they're amazing for the price. 660 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: The doctor os, you know, the restaurant pizzas. 661 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: They're in like a sin white box, aren't they. 662 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they nine dollars, but they're always on South 663 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: for six fifty, which it's so cheap, like six dollars fifty. 664 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: And my little boy likes spinach. I like the spinach one. 665 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: It's got twenty percent spinach, which is huge, like twenty 666 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: four percent tomato, twenty percent spinach, so like forty four 667 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: percent veggie based half the pizza. So like that's four pieces, 668 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: that's a lot. Is four hundred calories, Like it's you know, 669 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: five grams of sugar, like four grams of dietary fiber. 670 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Like it's just a really good choice. And I spoke 671 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: to another friend of mine, she's like, Oh, we'd love 672 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: those doctor Own pizzas. They're on sal for six fifty. Now, 673 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying pizza is good. I'm saying that if 674 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: you wanted a quick and easy meal and not to 675 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: spend one hundred dollars on pizza at the local, these 676 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: Doctor O's ones are pretty good, particularly if you like 677 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: the spinach one and far cleaner ingredient list, like it 678 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: is processed absolutely, but it's still going to be better 679 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: than your average pizza Heart Dominoes or even that one 680 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: that you've talked about today for. 681 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: Six dollars fifty. 682 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: In current times when food is so expensive, it's a 683 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: big thumbs up. We would have those pizzas often, like 684 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: at least once a week, like instead of a takeaway 685 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: because it's so much more cost effective. I can get 686 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: three for less than twenty dollars, like when I buy 687 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: pizza from our local takeaway ly and it's like eighty dollars, 688 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. So, if you're looking 689 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: at the cost benefit and for something that's forty four 690 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: percent vegetable. 691 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: It's a big thumbs up from me. 692 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: So if you do, you know, want to have a 693 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: pizza asally and don't necessarily want to make your own, 694 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: like I think they're a pretty good. 695 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 3: And probably people's I guess main feedback would be, oh, 696 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: but it doesn't have any protein in there. And I 697 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: had this discussion with a client in mind the other day. 698 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: We're so obsessed with protein. Is it important, Absolutely, But 699 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: if you have a meal or two here and there 700 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: that has minimal protein in there, I'm so not concerned 701 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: about that. If you're lacking protein in your breakfast, lunch, 702 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 3: and dinner on a regular occasion, you're going to run 703 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: into some problems. You're going to be quite hungry, you 704 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: start losing your muscle mass. But if occasionally you have 705 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: a meal with lower protein because it's budget friendly, it 706 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: tastes good, it's slightly lower calories compared to if you 707 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: went and boarded in a restaurant, we don't have a 708 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: problem with that. So I think as a society we're 709 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: so obsessed with protein that we'd rather spend three times 710 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: the price on something that is far more processed to 711 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: try and get the protein in Where's not the end 712 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: of the world, Like I can promise you our grandparents 713 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: were probably far healthy in the ninety percent of the 714 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: population right now, and they didn't actively try to hit 715 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: their macro account every single day. So sometimes just taking 716 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: it back to basics and eating food that is more reasonable, 717 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: you know, resembling real food is a good option, regardless 718 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: of what the macronutrient profile says. 719 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: True, And I would. 720 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: Say just keep in mind that a pizza meal is 721 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: not a whole pizza. A pizza meal is two or 722 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: three slices with a truckload of salad. And again that's 723 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: what I find when pilare having pizza, they'll just polish 724 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: off the whole thing or the leat the high protein 725 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: pizza based the whole thing because they think it's healthier, 726 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: whereas the calories are still high. So remember pizza meal 727 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: is two or three pizzas with salad, not just the 728 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: pizza on it. Sorry, that is an unbalanced meal. All right, 729 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: we'll finish our pizza arount. Now we both like pizza. 730 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: But I haven't had your wood fire pizza leanne. 731 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's only a new addition to 732 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: the household. You have to come up. David's very proud 733 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: of his dough as well. 734 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: And can I also say that Leanne's got like the 735 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: best herb garden her husband put into the garden. And 736 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: when I was up there last one, I was like 737 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: stealing some and he was like he saw me. It 738 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: was like an uncomfortable moment. 739 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: Let me talk. 740 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: She put basil and his suit because so expensive you 741 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: had like this. 742 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a moment that we had together, all right, 743 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: to wrap us up to daily And this is a 744 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: good question. This has come up our Instagram and please 745 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: do send any questions you've got to put on our 746 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: list on. 747 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: Our Instagram account. 748 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: At the Nutrition Couch, we do go through them regularly 749 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: and often use them. 750 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: But this is a really good question. 751 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: It was about fish oil and which is the best type, 752 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: because there are so many different types of fish oil, 753 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: creel oil, muscle lip oil, Omega three itself, all different ones. 754 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say I'm an expert on supplements, 755 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: but sort of what I've always traditionally looked at, because 756 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: of course, my general recommendations for people to eat more 757 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: oiling fish, whether it's sardines or salmon or even bara 758 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Mundi prauls because you will always absorb nutrients better from 759 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: whole food. Absolutely, supplements are never going to be better 760 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: than the nutrient in food. But obviously, for many reasons, 761 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: people can't always afford oil and seafood, or they might 762 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: not like it, or they're not able to have it 763 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: in the amount, or they're trying to optimize health. So 764 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: the general recommendation for optimal and EGA three in tape, 765 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 1: it's not public health guidelines of eating oily fish two 766 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: or three times a week, but actually optimal amounts of 767 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: those long chain amega three fats, which is the EPA 768 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: and dha is a gram per day. 769 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: And that goes back to about twenty. 770 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Years ago research from the SmartFeed Center in woman Gold, Uni, 771 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: which found that was an optimal amount to help reduce 772 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: implaneatory markers. 773 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: And if you look at the traditional ficial capsules. 774 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: That you'll see you'll see regular ones and then you'll 775 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: see super strength ones. 776 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: And if you take it a close look at the label, 777 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: you're looking. 778 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: For EPA slash dha and the old type tablets used 779 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: to have one eighty I think EPA and one twenty 780 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: dha which was three hundred in total, so you would 781 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: take three fish oil capsules to get one gram of 782 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: the pure epadha. Now the super strength ones tend to 783 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: have double that, so you can get away with one, 784 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: maybe two capsules per day. 785 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: And back in the. 786 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Old days, I used to recommend clients freeze them so 787 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: that didn't repeat on them. 788 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: Now. 789 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Of course, since then, as all things advance, there's different 790 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: varieties cruel oil capsules and the green is it green 791 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: tips muscle, green lipped muscle? 792 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: One of those two. 793 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: I've never heard. When you said something muscle, I was like, 794 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 3: what are you talking about, I've never heard of them 795 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: green muscles? 796 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: They're from New Zealand. Yeah, they're from New Zealand. It's 797 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: referred to as a. 798 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: More sustainable fish oil model, so you know, there's been 799 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: evolutions and more concentrated. So my understanding is that cruel 800 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: oil because crell is a smaller seed creature, they've got 801 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: a shorter lifespan, so they're less likely to have contaminants 802 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: in larger fish, and for that reason are regarded as 803 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: sort of a more pure, concentrated supplement. 804 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: But as you aptly said, they're more. 805 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Expensive, and I believe that to also be the case 806 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: with the green muscle form, very very potent rich sauce, but. 807 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: Also more expensive. 808 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: So for me with clients, I'm quite happy for them 809 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: to have, you know, a couple of regular or extra 810 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: strength to day if they want to. I don't generally 811 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: recommend supplementation unless someone, for example, doesn't like fish. But 812 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: then if I've got someone who might be allergeicic, I 813 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: would probably be more likely to recommend something like a 814 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: flax seed oil anyway, because even though in theory they're 815 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: allergic to the protein, just in terms of risk of contamination, 816 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: and for someone with a seafood allergy, I wouldn't be 817 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: prescribing a fishalt supplement. I would hit her on the 818 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: side of caution and give them, say a flax seed oil, 819 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: which is the plant for which can convert to the 820 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: long chain fats not as efficiently, but it's the next 821 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: best option. That's why we say, if you can't have 822 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: dixy cold fear short fish at all, things like your walnuts, 823 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: your limb seeds are your next best choice, and similar 824 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: to flaxseed oil. 825 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: And I've certainly had a lot of clients where it 826 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: hasn't been them, but it's been say the husband that's 827 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: had a seafood allergy or a child in the house 828 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: that's had a seafood allergy. So for that reason, their 829 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: family just doesn't eat seafood, even though they might like it, 830 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: they just don't eat it because it's too risky to 831 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: have it in the household. So that's where I would 832 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: definitely be recommending that one of my clients takes something 833 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: like a fish oil supplement because of that reason. And 834 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: we do know that there are certain conditions where you 835 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: might need a higher amount of fish oil and certain 836 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,959 Speaker 3: conditions where just from a general health and an anti 837 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: inflammatory perspective, like you mentioned, a couple of a gram 838 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: of EPA and DH per day is commended. So I 839 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: also think that I always tend to recommend a high 840 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 3: strength one, Susie, because remember back in the day, like 841 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 3: those when you had to take three a day, they 842 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: were like horse tablets. They were massive, they were like 843 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: people would gag on them and almost choke. So I 844 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 3: just think the benefit of the high strength ones were 845 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: that they were a lot smaller, and like you mentioned, 846 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: freezing them is a great tip because they do tend 847 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: to repeat on you and the last thing you want 848 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 3: us to burp fish oil tasting things like two hours 849 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: after you've had them. It's not a very nice not 850 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 3: a very nice thing. But also, like many supplements, consistency 851 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: is key. So if you're just going to sporadically take 852 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 3: it or remember, you know, forget to take it then 853 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: remember it twice a week, you're not going to get 854 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: anywhere near the benefit from actually taking it and getting 855 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: the anti inflammatory benefits. So when it comes to the 856 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: different types, any brand is just as good, like whether 857 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: you're choosing, for example, in a show, we have say 858 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 3: Black Marles, we might have Swiss, we might have what 859 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: are some other brands. 860 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: Of supplements, so like bi ccles. 861 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, by Biogland. Yeah, there's many different types, and people 862 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: say what's the best brand. It's not so much about 863 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 3: the best brand, it's about the amount that you want 864 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 3: to take per day. So me personally, I would pay 865 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: a little bit more to have something that's not this 866 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 3: gigantic tablet that I'm going to gag on. If something 867 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: is odalists, you can actually find some brands that make 868 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: odorless tablets as well, and something that's a little bit 869 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 3: smaller And I've got some clients you just can't do 870 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 3: capsules no matter what, So then I would suggest some 871 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: form of kind of like liquid for them as well. 872 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: Now the other thing with fish oil as well, I 873 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: was just looking at a little bit of the research. 874 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: Some studies do believe that the body absorbs the amigas 875 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: freeze in krill oil is slightly more easily than those 876 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: in fish oil. And also kriyll oil seems to contain 877 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 3: an antioxidant called acidzanthan which some of the research shows 878 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: this can actually help to slow the progression of heart disease. 879 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: So if you have a clinical need to take fish oil, 880 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: such as a cardiac or a heart condition, I would 881 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: probably if your budget allows for it, be choosing something 882 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 3: like a krill oil because it might be easily absorbed, 883 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: it might benefit your heart disease a little bit easier, 884 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: and you have to take slightly less of it as well, 885 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 3: and then looking for a brand that often goes stuff. 886 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: For example, I know that Black Moors as a range 887 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 3: often goes on sale at my you know, at Woolars 888 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: or Coals and half Price. Like I still take a 889 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 3: pregnancy and breastfeeding supplement just because for the better part 890 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: of the last three years have either been pregnant or breastfeeding. 891 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 3: We know it's a very depleting condition for women, So 892 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: I just take a breastfeeding supplement while while I'm doing that, 893 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 3: and I only buy the Black moles one when it 894 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 3: comes half priced. So I know that certain ranges of 895 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: supplements do tend to go on thirty forty fifty percent 896 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 3: of So if you are someone that takes fish oil 897 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: or krill oil regularly, definitely look for those sales within 898 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 3: you know, chemist warehouse wherever you might be buying your 899 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: supplements from, you know, hot tip. Try not to pay 900 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 3: full price for them, and they do store quite well, 901 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 3: you know, as long as the jars aren't open. So 902 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: I often will stock up on two or three of 903 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: them if I need to, So I think at the 904 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 3: end of the day, crell oil is probably of the 905 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 3: research is pointing towards better than fish oil, but it 906 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: is also more expensive, so if your budget doesn't allow 907 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: for it, taking fish oil versus not taking anything at 908 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 3: all is still going to be better. But the gold 909 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 3: sanity is to eat it in your diet, because, like 910 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: you mentioned, it's always going to be better because not 911 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: only do you eat the oily fish, it's all of 912 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: the nutrients that you're having with it, which helps the 913 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: absorption and digestion in your body. Whereas when we take 914 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 3: a supplement, we tend to just take it with a 915 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 3: mouthful of water or tea or coffee and that it's 916 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: down and that's it. We don't get the added benefits 917 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 3: of all the other nutrients from food that we tend 918 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: to get from food sources. But if you can't physically 919 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 3: take it because you're allergical the taste or whatnot, then 920 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 3: your NEXTPEX option is probably a krilla, followed by the 921 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: fish oil. And the last choice would be taking absolutely nothing, 922 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: because you are missing out on all of those wonderful 923 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: anti inflammatory benefits that you do get from amigasrees. And 924 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: we know the research is very powerful when it comes 925 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: to inflammatory conditions and amigas Fattiessa's perfect. 926 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: Good summary, all rightly, and what that brings us to 927 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: the end of the interesting touch for another week. 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