1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Do you ever have days when you can literally not 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: get enough food. No matter what you eat, you just 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: cannot get satisfied, and then you find yourself overdoing the 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: calories and feeling overstuffed and prostrated. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: On today's episode of The Nutrition. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Couch, we chat insatiable hunger, what it can mean, and 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: how to take control when it hits. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: I am Sissy Burrow and am Leanne Wood, and. 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Together we bring you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: that keeps you up to date on everything you need 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: to know in the world of pnutrition as well as 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: all things hunger. We have some brand new research on 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: what kids eat after school that any parent listening will 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: find very interesting. 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: We have a well known. 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Supermarket pizza that we both have some thoughts on, and 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: our list of the question is all about. 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: Fish oil supplement Llyanne. 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: This topic came to mind yesterday when I just had 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: one of those days where I was so hungry. And 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I find it doesn't happen so much now as I 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: get a little bit older, but I literally it just 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: could not get enough food. 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: Like everything. 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I just was still just snacky all afternoon, and I thought, 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we've actually spoken about it on the podcast, 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: not recently anyway, because certainly I will discuss with clients' 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: days where they are really really hungry, and I'll say 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: to them, actually, probably what you could have thought about 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: was actually, what do you really feel like in terms 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: of what will bring you satisfaction even more than hunger. 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: But I thought it was time to maybe. 33 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Discuss with our listeners some of the reasons that can 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: happen and what are the best ways to manage it 35 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: so you don't feel out of control, because I think 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: many of us when we're feeling out of control around food, 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: that can trigger that idea of binge eating and restriction 38 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: and all those. 39 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: Things we want to avoid. 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: So firstly, there can be many reasons that you may 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: have that insatiable hunger. 42 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Certainly there is. 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Research to show that around the time of your period, 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: even as much as seven days out, the body does 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: require some extra calories. It's not a lot, but does 46 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: require some, and certainly in many instances that may explain 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: why you are feeling particularly hungry or craving perhaps sweet food. 48 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: That's one quite common reason. The next, in my experience 49 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: is if people have been really acting but also being 50 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: quite calorie conscious and if they think back, they actually 51 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: haven't been eating a whole lot for a period of time, 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: they may have even lost several kilos, and then all 53 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden they just notice a significant increase in 54 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: appetitean for me, that is basically the. 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Body telling you that you need more calories. 56 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: And if you continue to fuel with low calorie food 57 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: until you reach that level of satisfaction. 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: You will keep eating. 59 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: And the third reason can be because your protein intake 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: is inadequate. Now we know from research there's a hypothesis 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: called the protein leverage hypothesis that proposes that when you 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: have had insufficient protein in the diet, you will basically keep. 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Eating until you get enough. 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: So, for example, if you've had a day where you 65 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: might have started with just toast for breakfast or coffee, 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: you may have been snacking on things like fruit, yogurt, banana, bread, 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: and at lunchtime had. 68 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: A plain salad. 69 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: All of a sudden later the body may realize that 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: you haven't had enough protein, and that might explain why 71 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: you have that terrible hunger. So that's probably slightly different 72 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: to what I'm talking about when you have a whole 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: day of it, but that can explain why in the 74 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: afternoon York bluglu posts may go low and you really 75 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: are just really craving something substantial and seem to keep 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: eating until you satisfy that desire. So before we launch 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: into strategies to manage it, have I missed anything? 78 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: I myself have experienced that hunger, but it's very different. 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: Like hunger is one thing, and then that what I 81 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 4: call it, that bottomless pit hunger where nothing you eat 82 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: just seems to satisfy, like you just want to eat 83 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: and eat and eat all day and no matter if 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: it's a large meal or a small meal, a snack, 85 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: nothing takes the edge of this hunger. And I used 86 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: to experience it like you, like, very rarely, but it 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: was always around the time of my period. So I 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: always say to women if they say to me, oh, 89 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: I'm just nothing's touching the edges today, like I'm so hungry, 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm like, just check you. You know your cycle calculator, 91 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: is your period you or secondly, had I did suggest 92 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: this to a friend many years ago, and I said, 93 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: could you be pregnant? And it turns out that she was, 94 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: Like for some women in those very early you know, 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: weeks in pregnancy. It could just be out of control hunger, 96 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 4: but I feel like it's something that's very short often 97 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: end goes away, So I think a lot of us 98 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 4: freak out, particularly if the goal is weight loss, that 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, I just ate so much food because 100 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: I was so hungry and nothing would touch the edges. 101 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: But in my experience, it doesn't tend to last more 102 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: than a day or so, so it's not something that 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: should be going on for weeks and weeks and weeks 104 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: on end. If it is, I would definitely say that 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: that's cause for further investigation. But I think just a random, 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: super super super hungry day every now and then is nothing, 107 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: no cause for concern. 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Potentially. 109 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: The other thing is when you've done a huge workout 110 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 4: and you know you're supposed to feel for that workout, 111 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: but often when you're doing a really high intensity workout 112 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: or a longer workout, like you might be training for 113 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: a marathon or something, and you've gone out and you 114 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: smashed twenty five thirty k run, which I a friend 115 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: of mine do recently, and she couldn't eat for the. 116 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Rest of the day. 117 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: She was that just fatigued and tired. That she couldn't eat, 118 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: and then two days later her hunger skyrocketed. So potentially 119 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 4: you've done a really large workout, haven't fueled probably, and 120 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: a day or two days later that's when the hunger 121 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: really kicks in. So that could potentially be another reason 122 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: as well. But I feel like for females it's generally 123 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 4: around the hormones. 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Definitely, and I think that probably explains mine somewhat because 125 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I hadn't had that feeling for quite some time, and 126 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, that's hormonal later reflecting. But the other 127 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: thing that's just sprung to mind is if you've had 128 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: a big night, you may notice the following day, once 129 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: you sort of recovered from a hangover, that you have 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: that extreme hunger too, And that's because of the effect 131 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: of alcohol metabolism. Because the liver is very very busy 132 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: processing any alcohol in your system, it impacts your blood 133 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: gluecose levels, and that's why you may also have quite 134 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: pronounced appetite a day after you've been had a big 135 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: night out. 136 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: So that's sort of another reason. 137 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: But I guess in terms of management strategies, I think, 138 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: first of all, China knowledge why it could be happening, 139 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: because when we understand why something's the case, it's easier 140 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: to manage. So you know, have a consideration. Have I 141 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: been eating enough protein through the day, Could I be 142 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: on my period? Have I changed any medication? Have I 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of different exercise? But more commonly, 144 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: I think my sort of gut feeling with it is 145 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: that it happens to people who have been reasonably strict 146 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: with their meal plan for quite some time and eating 147 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: really really well, religiously and possibly lost five seventeen kilos, 148 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's just not the 149 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: food that you are once eating is no longer satisfying. 150 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: So the first tip I would give is you've got 151 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: to get away from the idea of snacks, because snacks 152 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: inevitably are not balanced meals and they're not satisfying. 153 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: So if you sort of feel that bit. 154 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Of hunger and you have a bit of yogurt, and 155 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: then you might have a cheese and crackers, and then 156 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you're still not satisfied, so you grab a handful of nuts, 157 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you end up eating more calories in total, and yet 158 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: you're still not satisfied because you're trying to basically stick 159 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: to this plan of eating really healthy food, but quite 160 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: possibly it's. 161 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Not what's going to also satisfy you. 162 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: So when you have that real urge to eat something, 163 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: try and just take a moment to think, actually, what 164 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: would I have right now as a meal that would 165 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: satisfy me. Now it might be a burger leanne, it 166 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: might be a whole stirfry, it may be a subway, 167 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: but it's really important that you actually eat that it's 168 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: something that will satisfy you. And that I believe is 169 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: a big part of it, is that we're in our 170 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: head psychologically about thinking what we should eat as opposed 171 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: to thinking. 172 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: What we actually feel like eating. 173 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: So you know, it may not be the healthiest option, 174 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: but you may find after you have it, all of 175 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: a sudden you get rid of the cravings. And certainly 176 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: some of the work done by an appetite researcher Amanda 177 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Sainsbury Salis used to be at the Garvin who did 178 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of work on dietis who had lost a lot. 179 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Of weight and prevented regain. 180 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: She found that they almost needed a diet break, that 181 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: they needed that period where they literally went off and 182 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: ate what they felt like, and not only did that 183 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: support continual weight loss, but it had something to do 184 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: with like a refeeding situation where the body realized that 185 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't in a calorie deficit, almost similar to reverse 186 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: dieting in a way, realize the body wasn't in a 187 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: calorie deficit, there were plenty of calories around, and that 188 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: actually allowed people to continue to lose weight over time. 189 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: So we're not talking about a week long binge here. 190 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: We're saying that occasionally, once or twice a month, when 191 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: you really feel like having something that may be more indulgent, 192 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: that may be high in fact, that maybe not be 193 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: something that you normally eat, it's okay. 194 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: To have it. 195 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: It might be chocolate bar, it might be an ice cream, 196 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: it might be a better Jerry's. But it's really important 197 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: you take that time to think, what am I really 198 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: feeling like now, and what will satisfy me and in 199 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: my experience, something that's warm, something that's salty, something that's 200 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: a real meal. And you'll find the funny thing is 201 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: you'll find that once you almost give yourself psychological permission 202 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: to have it, you can't even eat very much of it. So, 203 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: say it's pasta, you might go to a restaurant and 204 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: have a seafood pasta. After two or three mouthfuls, you're 205 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: probably quite satisfied because you've let go of that cognitive restraint. 206 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: But it's when we're starting to play with our head 207 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: and restrain, restrain and restrain. 208 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: We end up bringing anyway on things that aren't really satisfying. 209 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: So that would be my first tip or second two 210 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: tips together. Have a meal, not snacks, and second, really 211 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: take that time to consider what you feel like and 212 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: where you can make it healthy. So for example, just 213 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: say you're craving pizza, rather than go and eat a 214 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: whole pizza. 215 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about pizza in a minute. 216 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Rather than going and eating a whole pizza, order the 217 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: pizza you like or make one, make it as healthy 218 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: as you can with loads of their gies, sit down 219 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: at the table, have two pieces, maybe three, with a 220 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: big salad, and eat it properly as a meal, rather 221 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: than standing at the kitchen bench and shoving it in 222 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: piece after piece. Because that's another observation I have when 223 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: my clients are off or they're having a meal off, 224 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: they grossly overeat the volumes of food because they're doing 225 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: it mindlessly. 226 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: They're not sitting down and saving and enjoying it. 227 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: So sure, have the burger, have the ice cream, have 228 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: the pizza, but sit down and have it properly, enjoy it, 229 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: eat mindfully, and I guarante tea you will eat far 230 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: less than if you're doing it the other way, which 231 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: is almost on the slide binge, eating it and feeling 232 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: bad about it because you're doing it as if you 233 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't be. 234 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: What are your tips? 235 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree, Like I think giving yourself that 236 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: permission to eat, because no food. 237 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: Is inherently good or bad. 238 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: You know you're not gonna derail your weight loss plan 239 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: from one burger. It's like you said, it's the whole 240 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: weekend off, it's an entire week off. We think I'll 241 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: screw it. Now I've had the burger, I'm going to 242 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: eat everything else. So it's about changing that relationship with 243 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: food over time. But when it is that true bottomless 244 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: pit hunger, I agree with you. You have to eat 245 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: main meals. You can't eat snacks. Snacks won't even touch 246 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: the edges. You've got to focus on a well balanced meal. 247 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: Protein has to be with fats, have to be with carps. Okay, 248 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: if you want a burger, make sure it's got to 249 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 4: meat patty on there. If you don't eat meat, make 250 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: sure it's got some sort of protein on there. Make 251 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 4: sure it's got some cheese or avocado for some fat, 252 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: because fat provides really nice mouthfeel and can actually lead 253 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: to a lot more satisfaction than the meal. I feel 254 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: like a lot of people are trying to do too 255 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: low fat, whereas fat is really important for hormones and 256 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 4: the satiety and just the enjoyment factor with your meal. 257 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: So make sure you've got fat attached meal. An example 258 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: is I had a client the other day and she said, 259 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: I'm really just craving two minute noodles. I said, okay, cool, 260 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: let's roll with that. Two minute noodles are predominantly carps. 261 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: What can we add to it? So she threw on 262 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: a tin of tuna and added some frozen veggies into that, 263 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: and I think, I can't remember what we did for 264 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 4: fat portion, but we well rounded out the meal. And 265 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: after that she was like, I'm so much more satisfied 266 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: than just eating the two minute noodles by itself. So 267 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: as long as you're trying to balance the meal yet 268 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: still giving yourself permission to eat the thing, that you'll 269 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: enjoy Like you said, I think it's so much better 270 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: because I feel like that bottomless pit hunger, which I'm 271 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: going to term it has two elements. One it is 272 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: true physical hunger, but I think two there is an 273 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: element of what I call head hunger there as well, 274 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: where like you said, we've just been restricted for far 275 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: too long, or we've overtrained and underfueled and we haven't 276 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: actually given our body what it needed. So it's kind 277 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 4: of rebellion going, Hey, I feel like eating the entire pantry. 278 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: So for some of us, it might be we've had 279 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: a super stressful day and we want to reward ourselves. 280 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: Maybe you know, we've been so good or weak, we 281 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: jumped on the scales, the scales went down, and we think, great, 282 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 4: now I deserve to reward myself with XY's. So I 283 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: think hunger is a difficult term where a lot of 284 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: us aren't so much in tune with is it coming 285 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: from our physical stomach or is it coming more from 286 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: the head or the mind. Because there's an element of 287 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: reward or enjoyment or something related to it, and there's 288 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that, but being able to distinguish that 289 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: is a really important part of your journey long term, 290 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: So really think, what do I actually feel like and 291 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: why is it? Because I deserve a reward? Can I 292 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: go and book myself a massage, then go out and 293 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: take myself for a nice burger and fries with a 294 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: side salad, and perhaps then you don't need half the 295 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: burger and fries and enjoy it and not overeaten and 296 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: feel guilty afterwards because you've actually done a little bit 297 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: of self care or nourishment beforehand as well. So I 298 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: think that element of self care and recognizing where is 299 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: this hunger coming from and what is my body actually 300 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: trying to tell me can be a really powerful key 301 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 4: to this just insane hunger that we sometimes do experience, 302 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: particularly as women. I've never really heard a man complain 303 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: of this, have you, Well, I. 304 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: Think men are not as cognitively aware of it, but 305 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: I think it often happens when they arrive home from 306 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: work and they have an eatn all day and then 307 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: they're like stuffing. But that's slightly different. Again, I think 308 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: probably you know, really the difference in genders is a 309 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: big part of hormonal but I do think you know, 310 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: if it is happening, just wants to try some month 311 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: no problem. But if it's happening a lot, that would 312 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: be when I'd be really taking a closer look at 313 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: your baseline diet, because my gut feeling would be that 314 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: it's inadequate in calories and or protein, which is basically 315 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: driving that over eating at certain time points. Or I 316 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: have clients who perhaps exercise fast, so they might exercise 317 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: sort of late afternoon and then they arrive home and 318 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: just can't get enough food, whereas they would have been 319 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: better to eat afternoon snack and then exercise. So if 320 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: your glucose control is sensitive, the timing of your training 321 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: and food intake is really really important, and you wouldn't 322 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: want to go more than two or three hours without 323 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: exercising before you had a snack to keep the gluecos 324 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: levels controlled because if blood glucose levels dropped, that's when 325 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: you'll get that terrible drive as well, I say terrible but. 326 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 2: Out of control feeling. 327 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: All Righttually, Yeah, And I just am excited because I 328 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: was looking for a topic to talk about today and 329 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: this just popped up on my news link just this afternoon, 330 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: and I loved it for so many reasons. And it's 331 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: a study that has looked at the dietary habits of 332 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: preschool aged children before and after drop off in the 333 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: pickup I should say, in the afternoon study out of 334 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the States, and I just loved it because it certainly 335 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: thumbs up an observation I have with kids and had 336 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: working back as a pediatric dietitian. And so it came 337 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: from researchers at the Boston Medical Center and Cincinnati Children's Hospital, 338 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: which is one of the biggest children hospital in the States, 339 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: and it looked at the dietary intake of more than 340 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: three hundred children in childcare and found in the hour 341 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: before and after pick up, kids ate fewer serves of 342 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: dairy and vegetables compared to other times in the day, 343 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: but in the one hour after pick up, they consume 344 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: twenty percent of their total daily calorie intake and twenty 345 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: two percent of their total daily sugar through salty and sweet. 346 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Snack foods and sugary drinks. 347 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: So basically, it's saying to parents everywhere, because I think 348 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: you would definitely replicate this after school pickup is that 349 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: they're on track in their daily intake, but once parents 350 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: or care has picked them up, that is the time 351 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: for treats. That is the time for snacks, and it 352 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: has a very powerful flow and affect to kids dietary intake. 353 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Because this is my observation land, and there's two scenarios. 354 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: There's childcare and then there's also school. 355 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: So in typical long daycare, the kids are fed are 356 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: very well balanced nutrition. There's a lot of rules and 357 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: regulations about what kids can have at childcare. There's no 358 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: generally very little processed food. 359 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: There's a certain number of. 360 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: The vegetables, a hot meal at lunch time, et cetera, 361 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, rules about packaged food. But then what happens 362 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: is parents or care has picked the kids up, the 363 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: little kids quite early, often three or four o'clock, and 364 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: then they might go to the shopping center or that's 365 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: when the treats come at cafes. And what are the 366 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: treats for kids at cafes. They have fruit juices, they 367 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: have banana bread, they have muffins, they have the biscuits 368 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: with the Smarties on the top. 369 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: And we talked about it. 370 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: On the podcast before that for small chi it's just 371 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: way too concentrated in those sugars. But the flow on 372 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: effect is then they of course don't eat their dinner 373 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: because they're not overly hungry, and the meat and veggies 374 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: gets thrown out the window, so it really displaces their 375 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: total diet treat intake. And that's what that study is suggesting. 376 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: But I think when you look at what school kids do, 377 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: because school lunch boxes tend to be so heavily carbohydrate focused, 378 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: because there's a number of foods you can't necessarily send 379 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: to school, Like you're not sending a lot of meat, 380 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: you're not sending a lot of dairy because it's often 381 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: hot in astray of Chiclicki and Queensland, So a lot 382 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: of what they've had all days fruit, fruit snacks, packet snacks, 383 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: musley bars. Keep in mind the research loads that kids 384 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: have on every three packet snacks in their lunch box 385 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: a day, biscuits, sandwiches often on white or whole meal 386 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: bread with very little protein filling because that doesn't go 387 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: with school sandwich as well, so they having often plan spreads. 388 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: It's all carbohydrate. 389 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: So then they get to three o'clock pick up, their 390 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: energy is as low as it can be. They've had 391 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: a peak of carboy day and a drop they're starving. 392 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: You know how many kids come home they're starving, and 393 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: what do we feed them? 394 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: Biscuits, ice creams, coffee shop food cakes, snacks on the 395 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: way to sports training. 396 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: We're not giving them very well, you. 397 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: May, but far less often are we giving them cheese 398 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: and crackers or a number because they're not foods that 399 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: we're programmed or can easily find at cafes and local shops. 400 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: So I thought it was just lending itself to a 401 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: discussion about that period of time because this research shows 402 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: that it has a pronounced effect on their overall dietary patterns, 403 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: impacting their intake of dairy and vegetables, but also a 404 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: practical discussion for listeners about how do you manage that time, 405 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: whether you've got starving toddlers or whether you've got primary 406 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: school aged children who are so hungry, how do you 407 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: feel and satisfy them without derailing their dinner. 408 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely couldn't agree more because I think and also 409 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: the other element of that is how many times do 410 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: launchwarks this come home basically untouched because kids just want 411 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: to get out in the playground and have some fun 412 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: and run around, particularly you know, younger boys, they just 413 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: want to go out and play sports. In the thirty 414 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: or so minutes that they have they just want to 415 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: get pick the ball around. So a lot of the 416 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: times kids aren't really eating that much or what they 417 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: are eating, like you mentioned, is heavily carbohydrate based, and 418 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: for children we want a higher carb diet absolutely, but 419 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 4: just going back to our hunger segment, if we're not 420 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: actually giving them some fats and some protein to basically 421 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: slow down the digestion of the carbohydrate in the tummy, 422 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: they will be hungrier for longest. So it is a 423 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 4: good idea to take it with you, maybe like a 424 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 4: pouch yogurt, and kids don't need the higher protein yogurts, 425 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: they just need a standard yogurt. It's a good serf 426 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: of calcium, it's a good serve of you know, a 427 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: small you know, maybe three four five grams of protein 428 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: depending on the size of the yogurt. Choosing crackers, like 429 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: Susie mentioned, a lot of schools, particularly in Australia al 430 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 4: most as I know what a nut free, so taking 431 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: them depending on how old they are, you know, some 432 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: nuts to snack on, a nut bar, maybe a bit 433 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: of bread with some nut paste on there, because that 434 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 4: it's actually a bit of fat on the carb to 435 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: slow down the digestion. Other ideas could be some roasted chickpeas. 436 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 4: I went over to a friend's house the other day 437 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: and she saved the kids at amamai beans. Just warmed 438 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: up the amount of beans in the microwave and sprinkle 439 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: a little bit of them. So that's an awesome little 440 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: snack as well, if you go past the sushi train, 441 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: getting a bit of at aamamo beans in for some 442 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 4: protin and fibers a great idea. 443 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: Or just anything savory. 444 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: You know, if you've made some savory muffins, you've got 445 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: some little kish, some little frittatas or little egg slice 446 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Can just tie them over for 447 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: dinner and be very careful not to overfeed them snacks 448 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: because a lot of fussy toddlers and young children are 449 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 4: overdoing the snacks and then when it comes to meal times, 450 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: they don't want a bar of meal time. And I, certainly, 451 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 4: as a parent, even as a dietitian, have done this 452 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: with little mea where I've given her a couple of 453 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: too many snacks and then she's not eating properly at 454 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: meal time. 455 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: So I know that basically we do breakfast. 456 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: We do a few, you know, snacks in the morning tea, 457 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: then we do lunch, and then I'm very strict with 458 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: the snacking in the afternoon, and then I'll bring forward 459 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: and have an earlier dinner so she eats well at dinner, 460 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: because I think a lot of parents are providing too 461 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: many snacks. Then they're not really having a properly balanced 462 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: dinner because they're not really hungry for it because they 463 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: come home and like you said, Susie, they're just over 464 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 4: eating in the afternoon, and then they don't need a 465 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: well balanced dinner. So we might be providing a great dinner, 466 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: but kids aren't necessarily eating it because they're so full 467 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 4: from all the afternoon snacking. 468 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: And I'll take it a step further. 469 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: And I did this a lot more when my kids 470 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: were smaller, so it might be more relevant to preschool 471 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: aged children. But I will always if I'm going on 472 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: a road trip with my kids, or when I used 473 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: to drive a long way to pick them up after preschool, 474 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: I would always pack my kids, particularly. 475 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Like cucumbers, cucumber, cut up carrot. 476 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: As they got older, things like strawberries, which are fairly 477 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: relatively low in sugars. 478 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 2: And I found in the car, they would always eat them. 479 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: And I even find now if. 480 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm going on a road trip if I've got cucumbers, 481 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: cut up carrot. 482 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: Every child will have different veggies. 483 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Some kids might like baby tomatoes or green beans, whatever 484 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: your child will eat, but I find in the car 485 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: it's a great time to get some of those veggies in, 486 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: or even at home, I'll often give a cup of 487 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: frozen peas before dinner and my little boys will either 488 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: have tomatoes with salt or cucumber with salt. 489 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: Don't even ask how we've got salt there, but at 490 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: least they eat them. And I find that then they've had. 491 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Two or three veggie serves before dinner, So I find 492 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: that a really opportune time to feed them that low 493 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: calorie vegetable block beforehand. And then if they just have 494 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: a piece of fish or chicken and maybe some sweet 495 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: potato fries, I don't care because they've already eaten a 496 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: lot of veggies between school lunch box and after school. 497 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: So if you've got a little bit. 498 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Of time, don't underestimate how powerful it is feeding them 499 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: in the car, because it's as opposed to saying you 500 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: have to eat vegetables. If you just hand them a 501 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: snack box which, as you described, might have some cut 502 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: up fruit, might have some rast to chickpeas in there. 503 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: It might have some cut up cucumber, might have some 504 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: baby tomatoes, like a little snack box, and they pick 505 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: at it a million times better than of course pulling 506 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: into a cafe. And then there's is jumpboth size piece 507 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: of banana bread and they're hungry. It's a little bit 508 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: of prep time required, but I think that can work wonders, 509 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: particularly if you've got a bit of car time each day, 510 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, you can always pull the lunchbox 511 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: out to I know my nanny does that with the kids. 512 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: So it's just a really good. 513 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Reminder about how that time can derail many people's diets, 514 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: particularly children. But I found it just fascinating then because 515 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: it was the first piece of research I've ever seen 516 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: that specifically looked at that pickup time and I thought, yeah, 517 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happens. So something for parents when you've 518 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: got opportunities to take some healthier options to take with you. 519 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely yep. 520 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: And the next segment, Susie is all about pizza, so 521 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: we thought we did. 522 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 3: I did bring this up. I think on the potty. 523 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: A few a few episodes ago, we were talking about 524 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 4: the fro Pro pizza and I think it's a really 525 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 4: interesting product because on paper, like it looks really great, 526 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like compared to the frozen 527 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: pizza range. 528 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: We've talked about the hell Stars before. 529 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna review the frou Pro Barbecue Meat Lover's Pizza today. 530 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 4: So I think it's in Cols and alvest. It's not inexpensive, 531 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: like I think. I don't know from memory what is it. 532 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: Maybe you can look that up for SUSI price wise, 533 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: but basically it's got four hell Stars. So what that 534 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: means is that it's not a four star product compared 535 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: to other frozen pizzas within the range. So the health 536 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: stars are comparing like foods within a similar range. So 537 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 4: within the category of frozen pizzas, the frou Pro protein 538 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: pizza is four stars, so it's probably about eighty percent 539 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: better than the other types of frozen pizzas on the market. 540 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: So on paper, it sounds really good. 541 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: It's high protein, it's fairly low calor for a serve, 542 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: so they're saying that a serving size is half a pizza. 543 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: So depending on how many slices you cut that into. 544 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: The bases are quite thin as well, and they're saying 545 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 4: that it's much lower carb, like it's fifty percent less 546 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: carb than a traditional frozen pizza. It's a lot higher 547 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: in sugar, and they're marketing it as low sugar. But 548 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: I don't I wouldn't really see how most pizzas would 549 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: be high in sugar, perhaps if you're using like a 550 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: sweet barbecue sauce or something, but regardless, it's still on 551 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: paper a much I guess better option. When you look 552 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: at the calories and the macros, you would think, particularly 553 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: if your goal is fat loss or a bit of 554 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: muscle gain, that looks really good on paper. So a 555 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: serve which is half the pizza is about fourteen hundred 556 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 4: killer duels, which is roughly three hundred and fifty calories, 557 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: so quite lean for a pizza. Like if you went 558 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: and picked up a Dominoes or got a pizza at 559 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 4: Italian restaurant, a whole pizza would be probably easily one 560 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: thousand calories, which mean half would be about five hundred calories. 561 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: So three fifty caloris is actually relatively good for half 562 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: the pizza. Twenty six point three grams of protein in 563 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: half of it. Now some of it will talk about 564 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: the ingredients in a second is because they've modified the 565 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: base itself to be higher protein. And then this one 566 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: that I've chosen is a barbecue meat lover, so some 567 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: of the toppings are a bit of ham and porxa's 568 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: a bit of protein as well. So twenty six grams 569 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 4: of protein is quite high, and that's something that we 570 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 4: would recommend if the goal is fat loss or muscle 571 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: gain is having about twenty to thirty grams of protein 572 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: per serve. Fat Wise, we've got thirteen point five grams, 573 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 4: with saturated being five point four grams, so saturated fat 574 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: is higher, but compared to a traditional like barbecue meat 575 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: lover's pizza at dominos or at crustal wherever you like 576 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: to get your pizza, significantly less fat than if you 577 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: bought a pizza out at a restaurant. Carb Wise, again, 578 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: significantly lower carb twenty seven point five grams of carbohydrate. 579 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 4: It's all about, you know, just less than to what 580 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 4: we would call carbohydrate exchanges or traditionally about you know, 581 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: about the equivalent of two slices of bread. So quite 582 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: good for a frozen pizza. Sugar's four point six grams 583 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: dietary fiber, whopping Susie eleven point four grams of dietary 584 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: fiber per serve. Some people with the sensitive Tommy might 585 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: say that that's too much and also whopping a sodium 586 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: twelve hundred and forty three milligrams of sodium in half 587 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 4: that pizza, Susie. So if you were to eat that 588 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: entire pizza, that would only be seven hundred calories. And 589 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: I say only because compared to if you went and 590 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: got a pizza at a takeaway shop or an Italian restaurant, 591 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: that would still be lower calories, but you would be 592 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: consuming two five hundred milligrams of sodium. You would be 593 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: consuming your entire daily more than your entire daily indeck 594 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 4: of sodium if you were to eat this whole pizza. So, 595 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: if you have issues with blood pressure or you're in 596 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: a fluid restriction or any sort of cardiac calp this is 597 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 4: certainly not the product for you. 598 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: It's extremely high in sodium. 599 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: And then when we break down the ingredients, sus it, 600 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 4: because I did have a client that sent me this 601 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: and she was like, it's got four stars, and I 602 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: must say I have bought this because I wanted to 603 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: give an honest review. Taste wise, it's okay. Is it 604 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: anything like I mean, David and I have a pizza 605 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: rove and so we're very biased. Is it anything like 606 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: our pizza oven? Absolutely not. But for a frozen pizza, 607 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: it wasn't too bad. The base was quite thin, like 608 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: it was almost a little bit too thin for my liking, 609 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: Like it wasn't kind of like a little bit of 610 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: doiness to it. And taste wise, it was it was 611 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: like meh, you know what I mean, Like it wasn't 612 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: super simpotasty. 613 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't delicious, but it also wasn't bad. 614 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: Like I'm giving it maybe maybe like six and a 615 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: half out of ten tastes wise, Like it wasn't terrible, 616 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: but it also wasn't something that I'd be rushing back 617 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: to the shops to get. But here's the kicker, right, 618 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 4: the ingredient list is about a mile long. So this 619 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: is a product. And this is why I wanted to 620 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: talk about it, Susie, because on paper it looks quite good. 621 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: It looks like, you know, you're getting eat calories. Your 622 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: macro's got a whopping him out of fiber in there, like, 623 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 4: the only thing I'd say is missing is some veggies, 624 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: So throw some extra veggies on before you cook it, 625 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: or have it with a nice side salad to get 626 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: some extra nutrients up. But this is a process food, 627 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: and I'm even going to go so far as to 628 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: say it's an ultra processed food that has been modified 629 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: to make it appear far more healthier than it is. 630 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: It's still a pizza at the end of the day. 631 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: If you like it, if you want to buy it, 632 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 4: if you enjoy pizza, absolutely it's not a bad option. 633 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: But I think a lot of us can be fooled 634 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: into these health halos where we think that foods are 635 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: a lot healthier than they would ideally be. And I 636 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: think some people are probably eating this product multiple times 637 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: a week. If this is your choice of you know, 638 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: quote unquote treat on a Friday night, I don't have 639 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: a problem with that. But if you're eating this three 640 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: or five times a week because it fits in with 641 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 4: your calories and your macros, I think you're fooling yourself 642 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: because there's not many health benefits from this besides the 643 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: fact that it probably slides nicely into your macro account 644 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: for the day. Because you may even got to bother 645 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: going through this ingredient list, Susie. It's massive, like it's 646 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: about fifty seven plus ingredients on there, and they have, 647 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 4: as I said, they've been modified to increase the fiber, 648 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 4: increase the protein, reduced down the amount of carbohydrate in there. 649 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: So it's certainly not something that is a whole food 650 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: based product. If you got some Lebanese bread or a 651 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: nice whole grain wrap, put a bit of tomato sauce 652 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 4: and they added a bit of protein and some veggies, 653 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 4: that would be a thousand times better and probably very 654 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 4: similar calories compared to something like this. Is this better 655 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: than like a Domino's pizza, Yeah, potentially probably, yes, probably, 656 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's certainly not as healthy 657 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: as what I think people have been led to believe 658 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: or it's been marketed at. I don't have anything wrong 659 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: with it, as I said, I did buy it, But 660 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: for me, I think I'd much rather buy an authentic 661 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 4: Italian based pizza, have two slices, a big size style 662 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: with it, and purely get that enjoyment and satisfaction out 663 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 4: of it, because from a taste perspective, I didn't really 664 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: feel that's satisfied after having a couple of slices of it. 665 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 3: That was my kind of review. 666 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: Well, it's thirteen dollars. 667 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: Oh, it's thirteen. There's no way budget Queen me would 668 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: have paid thirteen dollars, No way. 669 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wanted to quickly talk about everything you 670 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: say about it. 671 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: I agree. 672 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: I think we talked about the burritos last time. They're 673 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: just they're really processed. But I just want to talk 674 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: about a pizza that I love because if anyone's had 675 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: these pizzas, I just think they're amazing for the price. 676 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: The doctor ohs, you know the restaurante pizzas. 677 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: They're in like a sin white box, aren't they. 678 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they nine dollars, but they're always on South 679 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: for six fifty, which it's so cheap, like six dollars fifty. 680 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: And my little boy likes spinach. I like the spinach one. 681 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: It's got twenty percent spinach, which is huge, like twenty 682 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: four percent tomato, twenty percent spinach, so like forty four 683 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: percent Vengjie based half the pizza. So like that's four pieces, 684 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot. Is four hundred calories, like it's you know, 685 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: five grams of sugar, like four grams of dietary fiber. 686 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: Like it's just a really good choice. 687 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: And I spoke to another friend of mine, she's like, Oh, 688 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: we'd love those Doctor Over pizzas. 689 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: They're on sal for six fifty. Now, I'm not saying 690 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: pizza is good. 691 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying that if you wanted a quick and easy 692 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: meal and not to spend one hundred dollars on pizza 693 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: at the local, these Doctor O's ones are pretty good, 694 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 1: particularly if you like the spinach one and far cleaner 695 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: ingredient list, like it is processed absolutely, but it's still 696 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: going to be better than your average pizza Hert Dominoes 697 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: or even that one that you've talked about today for 698 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: six dollars fifty. In current times when food is so expensive, 699 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: it's a big thumbs up. We would have those pizzas often, 700 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: like at least once a week, like instead of a 701 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: takeaway because it's so much more cost effective. I can 702 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: get three for less than twenty dollars, like when I 703 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: buy pizza from our local takeaway ly and it's like 704 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: eighty dollars, Like you know what I mean. So, if 705 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: you're looking at the cost benefit and for something that's 706 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: forty four percent vegetable. It's a big thumbs up from me. 707 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: So if you do, you know, want to have a 708 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: pizza ocasionally and don't necessarily want to make your own, 709 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: like I think they're a pretty good. 710 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: And probably people's I guess main feedback would be, oh, 711 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: but it doesn't have any protein in there. And I 712 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 4: had this discussion with a client of mine the other day. 713 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: We're so obsessed with protein. Is it important, Absolutely, But 714 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: if you have a meal or two here and there 715 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: that has minimal protein in there, I'm so not concerned 716 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: about that. If you're lacking protein in your breakfast, lunch, 717 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: and dinner on a regular occasion, you're going to run 718 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: into some problem. You're going to be quite hungry, you 719 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: start losing your muscle mass. But if occasionally you have 720 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: a meal with lower protein because it's budget friendly, it 721 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: tastes good, it's slightly lower calories compared to if you 722 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: went and boughdered in a restaurant, we don't. 723 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: Have a problem with that. 724 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 4: So I think as a society, we're so obsessed with 725 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: protein that we'd rather spend three times the price on 726 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: something that is far more processed to try and get 727 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: the protein in it's not the end of the world. 728 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: Like I can promise you our grandparents were probably far 729 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: healthy in the ninety percent of the population right now, 730 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: and they didn't actively try to hit their macro account 731 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: every single day. So sometimes just taking it back to 732 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 4: basics and eating food that is more reasonable, you know, 733 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: resembling real food is a good option regardless of what 734 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: the macronutrient profile says. 735 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: True, and I would say just keep in mind that 736 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: a pizza meal is not a whole pizza. A pizza 737 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: meal is two or three slices with a truckload of salad. 738 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: And again that's what I find when pilare having pizza, 739 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: they'll just polish off the whole thing, or the leat 740 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: the high protein pizza base the whole thing because they 741 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: think it's healthier, whereas the calories are still high. So 742 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: remember pizza meal is two or three pizzas with salad, 743 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: not just the pizza on it. Sorry, that is an 744 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: unbalanced meal. All right, we'll finish our pizza out now. 745 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: We both like pizza. But I haven't had your wood 746 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: fire pizza leanne. 747 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's only a new addition to 748 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: the household. You have to come up. David's very proud 749 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: of his dough as well. 750 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and can I also say that Leanne's got like 751 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: the best herb garden her husband put into the gardener. 752 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: When I was up there last fe I was like 753 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: stealing some and he was like he saw me. It 754 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: was like an uncomfortable moment. 755 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Let me try. 756 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: She put basil in his. 757 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Because was so expensive that you had like. 758 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Time anyway, it was a moment that we had together, 759 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: all right, to wrap us up to daily. 760 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: And this is a good question. 761 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: This has come up at Instagram, and please do send 762 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: any questions you've got to put on our list on 763 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: an Instagram account. At the Nutrition Couch, we do go 764 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: through them regularly and often use them. But this is 765 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: a really good question. It was about fish oil and 766 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: which is the best type, because there are so many 767 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: different types of fish oil, creel oil, muscle lip oil, 768 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Omega three itself, all different ones. So I don't want 769 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: to say I'm an expert on supplements, but sort of 770 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: what I've always traditionally looked at, because of course, my 771 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: general recommendations for people to eat more oil fish, whether 772 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: it's sardines or salmon or even bara Mundi prawls because 773 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: you will always absorb nutrients better from whole food. Absolutely, 774 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: supplements are never going to be better than the nutrient 775 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: in food. But obviously, for many reasons, people can't always 776 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: afford oil and seafood, or they might not like it, 777 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: or they're not able to have it in the amount, 778 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: or they're trying to optimize health. So the general recommendation 779 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: for optimal omega three in tape, it's not public health 780 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: guidelines of eating oily fish two or three times a week, 781 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: but actually optimal amounts of those long chain amiga three 782 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: fats which is the EPA and dha is a gram 783 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: per day. 784 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: And that goes back to about twenty years ago. 785 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: Research from the Smart Feed Center in Woomangold Union, which 786 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: found that was an optimal amount to help reduce implanematory markers. 787 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: And if you look at. 788 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: The traditional ficial capsules that you'll see you'll see regular 789 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: ones and then you'll see super strength ones. And if 790 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: you take it a close look at the label, you're 791 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: looking for EPA slash dha and the old type tablets 792 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: used to have one eighty I think EPA and one 793 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: twenty dha which was three hundred in total, so you 794 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: would take three fish oil capsules to get one gram 795 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: of the pure epadha. Now the super strength ones tend 796 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: to have double that, so you can get away with one, 797 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: maybe two capsules per day. And back in the old 798 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: days I used to recommend clients freeze them so that 799 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: didn't repeat on them. 800 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: Now. 801 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: Of course, since then, as all things advance, there's different 802 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: varieties cruel oil capsules and the green is it green 803 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: tips muscle, green lipped muscle, One of those two. 804 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: I've never heard. 805 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: When you said something muscle, I was like, what are 806 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 4: you talking about, I've never heard of them. 807 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: Green muscle ones. They're from New Zealand. Yeah, they're from 808 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand. It's referred to as a. 809 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: More sustainable fish oil model. So you know, there's been 810 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: evolutions and more concentrated. So my understanding is that cruel 811 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: oil because crill is a smaller seed creature, they've got 812 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: a shorter lifespan, so they're less likely to have contaminants 813 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: in larger fish, and for that reason are regarded as 814 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: sort of a more pure, concentrated supplement. 815 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: But as you aptly said, they're more. 816 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Expensive, and I believe that to also be the case 817 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: with the green muscle form, very very potent rich sauce, 818 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: but also more expensive. So for me with clients, I'm 819 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: quite happy for them to have, you know, a couple 820 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: of regular or extra strength. 821 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: To day if they want to. 822 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't generally recommend supplementation unless someone, for example, doesn't 823 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: like fish. But then if I've got someone who might 824 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: be alergeicic, I would probably be more likely to recommend 825 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: something like a flax seed oil anyway, because even though 826 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: in theory they are allergic to the protein, just in 827 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: terms of risk of contamination, and for someone with a 828 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: seafood allergy, I wouldn't be prescribing a fishort supplement. I 829 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: would hit her on the side of caution and give them, 830 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: say a flax seed oil, which is the plant for 831 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: which can convert to the long chain fats not as efficiently, 832 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: but it's the next best option. That's why we say, 833 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: if you can't have dipxy cold fish short fish at all, 834 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: things like your walnuts, your limb seeds are your next 835 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: best choice, and similar to flax seed oil. 836 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: And I've certainly had a lot of clients where it 837 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: hasn't been them, but it's been say the husband that's 838 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: had a seafood allergy or a child in the house 839 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: that's had a seafood allergy. So for that reason, their 840 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 4: family just doesn't eat seafood, even though they might like it, 841 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: they just don't eat it because it's too risky to 842 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: have it in the household. So that's where I would 843 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 4: definitely be recommending that one of my clients take something 844 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: like a fish oil supplement because of that reason. And 845 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: we do know that there are certain conditions where you 846 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 4: might need a higher amount of fish oil and certain 847 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: conditions where just from a general health and an anti 848 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: inflammatory perspective, like you mentioned, a couple of a gram 849 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 4: of EPA and DH per day is commended. So I 850 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: also think that I always tend to recommend a high 851 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 4: strength one, Susie, because remember back in the day, like 852 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 4: those when you had to take three a day, they 853 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 4: were like horse tablets. They were massive, they were like 854 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 4: people would gag on them and almost choke. So I 855 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: just think the benefit of the high strength ones were 856 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 4: that they were a lot smaller, and like you mentioned, 857 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: freezing them is a great tip because they do tend 858 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: to repeat on you on the last thing you want 859 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 4: us to bur fish oil tasting things like two hours 860 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: after you've had them. It's not a very nice not 861 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 4: a very nice thing. But also, like many supplements, consistency 862 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 4: is key. So if you're just going to sporadically take 863 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 4: it or remember, you know, forget to take it, then 864 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: remember it twice a week, you're not going to get 865 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: anywhere near the benefit from actually taking it and getting 866 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: the anti inflammatory benefits. So when it comes to the 867 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 4: different types, any brand is just as good, like whether 868 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: you're choosing, for example, in a show, we have say 869 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 4: Black Males, we might have Swiss, we might have what 870 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: are some other brands. 871 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: Of supplements, so like Bia cycles. 872 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Biogland, Yeah, there's many different types, and people have 873 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: to say what's the best brand. It's not so much 874 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: about the best brand, it's about the amount that you 875 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 4: want to take per day. So me personally, I would 876 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: pay a little bit more to have something that's not 877 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 4: this gigantic tablet that I'm going to gag on. If 878 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 4: something is odorless, you can actually find some brands that 879 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: make odorless tablets as well, and something that's a little 880 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 4: bit smaller. And I've got some clients. You just can't 881 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 4: do capsules no matter what. So then I would suggest 882 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 4: some form of kind of like liquid for them as well. 883 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 4: Now the other thing with fish oil as well, I 884 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 4: was just looking at a little bit of the research. 885 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 4: Some studies do believe that the body absorbs the amigas 886 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 4: freezing krill oil is slightly more easily than those in 887 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 4: fish oil. And also kryll oil seems to contain an 888 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 4: antioxidant called acid xanthan which some of the research shows 889 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: this can actually help to slow the progression of heart disease. 890 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 4: So if you have a clinical need to take fish oil, 891 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: such as a cardiac or a heart condition, I would 892 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: probably if your budget allows for it, be choosing something 893 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 4: like a krill oil because it might be easily absorbed, 894 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: it might benefit your heart disease a little bit easier, 895 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 4: and you have to take slightly less of it as well, 896 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 4: and then looking for a brand that often goes and stuff. 897 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: For example, I know that Black Moors as a range 898 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: often goes on sale at my you know, at wool 899 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 4: warstl Coals and half Price. 900 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 3: Like I still take a. 901 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 4: Pregnancy and breastfeeding supplement just because for the better part 902 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 4: of the last three years I've either been pregnant or 903 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: breastfeeding we know it's a very depleting condition for women, 904 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 4: so I just take a breastfeeding supplement while I'm doing that, 905 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 4: and I only buy the Black Males one when it 906 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 4: comes half priced. So I know that certain ranges of 907 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 4: supplements do tend to go on thirty forty fifty percent. 908 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 4: So if you are someone that takes fish oil or 909 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: crill oil regularly, definitely look for those sales within you know, chemists, 910 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 4: warehouse wherever you might be buying your supplements from, you know, 911 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: hot tip. Try not to pay full price for them, 912 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 4: and they do store quite well, you know, as long 913 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: as the jars aren't open. So I often will stock 914 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 4: up on two or three of them if I need to, 915 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 4: So I think at the end of the day, crill 916 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: oil is probably of the research is pointing towards better 917 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: than fish oil, but it is also more expensive, so 918 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 4: if your budget doesn't allow for it, taking fish oil 919 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: versus not taking anything at all is still going. 920 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 3: To be better. 921 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: But the gold sanity is to eat it in your diet, because, 922 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: like you mentioned, it's always going to be better because 923 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 4: not only do you eat the oily fish, it's all 924 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: of the nutrients that you're having with it, which helps 925 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 4: the absorption and digestion in your body. Whereas when we 926 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 4: take a supplement, we tend to take it with a 927 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 4: mouthful of water or tea or coffee and that it's 928 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 4: down and that's it. We don't get the added benefits 929 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 4: of all the other nutrients from food that we tend 930 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 4: to get from food sources. But if you can't physically 931 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 4: take it because you're allergic or the taste or whatnot, 932 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 4: then your NEXTPEX option is probably a kriller, followed by 933 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 4: the fish oil, and the last choice would be taking 934 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: absolutely nothing, because you are missing out on all of 935 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: those wonderful anti inflammatory benefits that you do get from amigasrees. 936 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 4: And we know the research is very powerful when it 937 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: comes to inflammatory conditions and amigas Fattiessa's perfect good summary. 938 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: All rightly, and what that brings us to the end 939 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: of interesting touch for another week. 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