1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Now, as I mentioned just a little while ago, we 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: know the Australian newspaper is today reporting the two teenage 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: boys who allegedly broke into the home in Alice Springs 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and struck a woman with the medal freezer handle so 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: hard that it rebounded, hitting a two month old baby, 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: causing a brain bleed and fractured skull. The Australian reporting 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: they had collectively been charged with almost three hundred other 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: offenses and bailed thirty five times, and they were currently 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: on bail now. The Australian also revealing that one of 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: the teenagers involved in that alleged home invasion, who struck 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the infant and its mother with the metal handle, was 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: on bail for a string of other violent offenses. His 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: alleged accomplice had been charged with a separate assault just 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: two days before the latest incident and was also on bail. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: The first team, the seventeen year old, had been previously 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: charged with nineteen offenses and bailed ten times, while the 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: other sixteen years old had been charged with two hundred 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: and seventy four offenses and bailed twenty five times. Now 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: joining me on the line right now is the Senator 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: for the Northern Territory and Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians. 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: Just center number jimper Price. Good morning to you, Senator, Good. 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Senator, First off, how are you feeling in Alice Springs? 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: How the people of Alice Springs feeling today after what 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: happened yesterday? And as further detail starts to emerge about 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: these alleged defenders. 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 2: Look, locals are a bit beside themselves in Alice at 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: the moment. I think we're really at a point, at 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: a real breaking point where I fear that, you know, 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: if this situation can't be brought under control, that the 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: next thing will be that a local will lash out, 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: someone will get seriously hurt. Whether that's an offender, we're 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: a the last draw for a community member or someone 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: you know will end up dead. It's just really, you know, 35 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: the community is strained. It's become our new normal, and 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: a community shouldn't have to feel like we're all living 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: precariously on tenderhooks. I mean, I reported the strange behavior 38 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: of a vehicle full of young men on my street 39 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: last night. You sort of think is my house going 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: to be next am? I going to be the next 41 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: home invasion, you. 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Know you and both you and Marian scrim Draw both 43 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: said that to me in the last you know, in 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. You're both Indigenous women who've 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: lived in the Northern Territory for a long long time, 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and you know I raised here. For you to feel 47 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: like that is appalling. 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is absolutely appalling. You know, there are times 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: when I've called the police and I've stated who I am, 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: because I know that being the Senator I can get 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: a sort of incidant a reaction. But you know, my 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: concern is for regular community members who don't have the 53 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: opportunity of don't have a title where they can get 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: a swifter response to possibly anything that's going on. But yeah, no, 55 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: I should not have to feel this way in my hometown, 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: the town that I've grown up in, the town that 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: felt like such a wonderful community as a kid, feeling 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: so completely unsafe as it is right now. 59 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Justin to where do we go from here? I mean, 60 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: like to me, after reading this article in the Australian 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: newspaper this morning by Leam Mendez, and you know, reading that, 62 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: we now know that these two youths involved in the 63 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: home invasion that fractured the skull of a baby girl 64 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: were allegedly on bail and collectively reportedly charged with almost 65 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: three hundred other offenses and bailed thirty five times. Like 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to me, there's a really clear breakdown here. 67 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: There absolutely isn't. For years, I've been you know, I've 68 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: been stating the fact that because we have the highest 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: rates of DV of sexual assault, of sexual abuse within 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: indigenous communities, and we can't shy away from the fact 71 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: that these perpetrators are predominantly Indigenous, we can't shy away 72 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: from why we've got young people who are so detached 73 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: from society as we do. Because the systems that are 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: there to try to supposed to protect vulnerable children exposed 75 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: to all of these things have utterly, utterly failed them. 76 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: And so these young offenders have no doubt, have had miserable, 77 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: horrible upbringings. But you know, the there are those of 78 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: a leftist ideology who think that being connected to culture 79 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: and country is going to save us. Well, that's a 80 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: load of nonsense because the function the culture is dysfunctional 81 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: as it is. There's no respect for older people, there's 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: no respect for babies. Now, we're having a situation where 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: mothers and children are coming under attack, and so one 84 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: we've got to actually protect vulnerable children and take them 85 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: away from the dysfunction and put them in homes that 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: are going to look after them, that are going to 87 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: uphold the human rights. They're going to make sure they 88 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: get a bloody education and a pathway to employment and 89 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: a meaningful life. No more can we carry on about 90 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: colonization and connection to country and culture. It's basic to 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: every human being that growing up free of violence, free 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: of sexual abuse, and getting an education are the key 93 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: things that we need to ensure happens. And you know 94 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: what we've had, We've we've had a federal government that's 95 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: thrown money at this situation. Labour think they can throw 96 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: money at a situation and it fixes it. Well, it doesn't. 97 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: It might prop up votes in average organizations that will 98 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: go out and make sure that labor gain votes, but 99 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: it is not going to fix the situation. And we 100 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: need to hold to account those organizations that are supposed 101 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: to provide outcomes that simply are not doing that. 102 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Do we need a closer look at the judicial system 103 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: here as well? I mean, if you've got people being 104 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: bailed that many times, don't We need to start asking 105 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: questions of. 106 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Why, absolutely we do. The judicial system is responsible for 107 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: what is happening to our communities, and a judicial system 108 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: needs to step up to ensure that we are protecting 109 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: vulnerable victims. I mean, it's the same with the DVS situation, 110 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: where DV perpetrators are getting off, you know, having short 111 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: sentences and going back out and reoffending, and then vulnerable 112 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: individuals are ending up being killed as a result, ending 113 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: up being murdered as a result. We need to step up. 114 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: We can't continue to look at this situation like it's 115 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: a racial thing, like it's a black and white thing, 116 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: and treating one group of people differently to another. In 117 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: our society, an offender is an offender and needs to 118 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: be treated as such. You know, it's funny when the 119 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: leader of the opposition in the Northern Territory wants to 120 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: criticize the current government, Well, they failed miserably. The reason 121 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: we're in this state is because of their ongoing failures. 122 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'm pleased that the criminal age of responsibility 123 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: was lowered because there's plenty of arguments to this, But 124 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: when you allow a child to offend and offend and reoffend, 125 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: then you are creating an absolute criminal sometimes these kids, 126 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: if they're put in detention, that if the detention environment 127 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: needs to be such that it is a better environment 128 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: where you know, they can gain things perhaps like an 129 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: education while they're in being detained, but they're getting there 130 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: somewhere for them to sleep, where they're not you know, 131 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: vulnerable to sexual abuse and violence, where they're getting meals 132 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: and all of those sorts of things. And that's what 133 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: should be going on a level of rehabilitation of these 134 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: young people if they are in fact locked up and 135 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: we can't pushy foot around anymore. Like enough is enough. 136 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's had an absolute gutful. We've had a gutful 137 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: for a long time. But you know, the way that 138 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: this has escalated in the last few weeks has been terrible. 139 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean, to think that a woman was allegedly raped 140 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: while she slept inside her home in Alice Springs, as 141 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: a woman in Alice Springs, like yourself, like, I can 142 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: only imagine how scared people must be feeling. You'd be thinking, 143 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: how heavily can I lock up my house? Yeah? 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely, even I mean even having dogs a sort of 145 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: guard dogs. The dogs are being attacked as well. I mean, 146 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: dogs are being slashed. You know, It's like, what do 147 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: we have to do. And if someone is to defend 148 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: their own home and use violence to defend their own home, 149 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: then they're going to end up being on the end 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: of a charge, which you know, to me, it just 151 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: seems it seems like that's where this is all ending up, 152 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: and that's the only option that locals are being left with. 153 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm pleased that there is As I mentioned, 154 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I called to report odd behavior on my street last 155 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: night and the response was swift. Within five or ten minutes, 156 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: there was a patrol car patrolling the street. So I'm 157 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: pleased with that reaction at the minute. And you know, 158 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: I'm pleased that there's still the option of, you know, 159 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: further support with police resources federally should we need it 160 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 2: going forward. But I just you know, this whole the 161 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: new laws that the CLP have brought in, the new 162 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: government have brought in are going to have to take 163 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: effect and I certainly look forward to that and the 164 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: work that's going to be that is being planned going ahead. 165 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that I mean, you touched on it, 166 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: then the Federal Police and this is a this has 167 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: been something that's come up over the last couple of days, 168 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: and we are going to catch up with the Police 169 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Association about this in just a couple of moments. I mean, 170 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: are we in a situation where an authern territory police 171 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: need assistance from the federal police or do you think 172 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: we've got it under control? And the reality is, you 173 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: know that we actually we need to start seeing the 174 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: judicial system work for us. 175 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: Look, absolutely, the judicial system needs to kick in a 176 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: hell of a lot better than what it has done. 177 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: But I also feel as though there needs to be 178 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: a backup in terms of our police. And while I 179 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: can appreciate that if police are brought in from into 180 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: state that they need to sort of undergo a level 181 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: of training, and it was put to me that it 182 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: would require about sixteen weeks or so for them to 183 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: understand and adapt to the territory laws and policing system. 184 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: But I almost feel as though there should be a 185 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: task force, you know, perhaps police from interostate that do 186 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: undergo that that can be called on should we need 187 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: them at any stage to say that, you know, I 188 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: guess right now, if we were to bring am in, 189 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: it would take that long. Well, I just would hate 190 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: to get to a point where there is something even 191 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: further escalated than what we've already been through to prompt 192 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: you know, those police coming in and then undergoing a 193 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: sixteen week training program for them. I just feel like 194 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: there should be a task force available to us at 195 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: any stage should we need them, if we need the backup, just. 196 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Very quickly before I let you go. I mean, when 197 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: you look at the response from the Prime Minister and 198 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: from the federal government, do you like, do they need 199 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: to be doing more right now? 200 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: They need to stop wasting money on organizations where for instance, 201 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: some of their leadership has a DV perpetrator on the board, 202 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: you know, and funding the organizations like that for their 203 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: DV programs, and also an expectation of these organizations that 204 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: are in receipt of federal funding that they prove their 205 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: outcomes to be continued to be funded. And I don't 206 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: think we should be well. I know that if at 207 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: the next election, if worth successful in winning government and 208 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: I become a Minister for Indigenous Australians, that I will 209 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: revisit the closing the gap framework so that we're not 210 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: just cycling off money. Specifically to just indigenous led organize 211 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: because we know in the Northern Territory, particularly that there 212 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: are many wonderful organizations doing great work and providing outcomes, 213 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: but don't receive hearty amount of money that an indigenous 214 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,239 Speaker 2: organization is because they can't call themselves an indigenous organization. 215 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: I mean, even our own town council can't deliver on 216 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: closing the gap because they're not an Aboriginal organization. But 217 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: they take care of an entire community where there's a 218 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: great percentage of Indigenous Territorians that live. And so there's 219 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: things like that that need to change. But I feel, 220 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, the Albanesi government just aren't interested in those 221 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: sorts of reforms. It's actually getting up off their backside 222 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: and doing some work, and they're just not interested in that. 223 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: They're interested in lip service and throwing money at an 224 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: issue and expecting that that money is somehow going to 225 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: change the situation. Well, clearly it has not done that 226 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: since Albow did his four hours on the ground announcing 227 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: that money before he went off to the tennis. 228 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. We're not seeing a change 229 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: at this point despite all of that money being thrown 230 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: at Central Australia Senator. I really appreciate your time this morning. 231 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat with us. 232 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Let us know if anything does happen over the weekend 233 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: that we should be aware of. No way, thank thank you, 234 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Thanks so much.