Speaker 1: Good day. This is Peter. Hell, are you welcome to
Speaker 1: You ain't seen nothing yet?
Speaker 2: The Movie Podcast where our chat to a movie lover
Speaker 2: or lovers about a classic or beloved movie they haven't
Speaker 2: quite got around to watching until now. And today's guests
Speaker 2: a trio, the Fantastic, the Powerhouse that is Sushi Mango.
Speaker 3: Do you any think you have a chance against us?
Speaker 4: Mister cowboy, open the pod bay doors.
Speaker 5: Hell, I'll have what she's having happening right, You ain't
Speaker 5: seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard of Sushi Mango, you obviously haven't
Speaker 2: got much of an online presence. Brothers Joe and carlos
Speaker 2: Selnitri and best mate Andrew Manfree are official comedy juggernauts,
Speaker 2: gaining popularity when a sketch of theirs called in Tayans
Speaker 2: Versus Greeks when viral on Facebook in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: They haven't looked back.
Speaker 2: Their first show, Walgs at Work, was a huge hit
Speaker 2: that led the star Walks with the support and actually
Speaker 2: featuring at nick Ganopolis. Their latest show, though, off the Boat,
Speaker 2: is going absolutely nuts. The boys are playing not theaters
Speaker 2: but stadiums. That's right, stadiums in Melbourne. They literally played
Speaker 2: Rod Labor Arena. That's where the Bloody as Straight and
Speaker 2: Open is. That's where Pink plays like ten shows and
Speaker 2: they played more than one, and they've played three or.
Speaker 1: Four sold out Rod Labor Arena is amazing now.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if anyone has sold more live pickers
Speaker 2: across Australia over the last year than Sushi Mango. On
Speaker 2: Instagram and YouTube, they are killing it with their sketches,
Speaker 2: gaining millions and millions of streams. Their audience is worldwide
Speaker 2: and they are loving what the lads are putting out.
Speaker 2: Their Saucy Meatball podcast is also great fun. I was
Speaker 2: honored to be a recent guest during Lockdown when everybody
Speaker 2: needed a laugh, the boys delivered once again. Their online sketches,
Speaker 2: both under the Sushi Mango account and their individual accounts,
Speaker 2: were freaking hilarious. I must say I sought them just
Speaker 2: to have a laugh through those weird old days.
Speaker 1: They took the.
Speaker 2: Piss out of what was an extraordinary period of time
Speaker 2: in a way that was always hilarious and pointed, but
Speaker 2: never calling for anarchy. Sushi Mango are all about the laughs.
Speaker 2: They love making each other laugh. You can tell they
Speaker 2: do and now they are making millions laugh along with them.
Speaker 2: I'm bloody stoked to be hanging with Joe, Carlo and
Speaker 2: Andrew Sushi Mango today.
Speaker 6: Hey guys, were Sushi Mango And I'm Joe and my
Speaker 6: favorite movie is Greece.
Speaker 1: What's up, my Star?
Speaker 3: I'm Carlo and my favorite movie is Rocky And.
Speaker 4: To all the Rockies in the world, I love you.
Speaker 7: I'm Andrew and my favorite movie is The Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 3: I only sat the stage.
Speaker 1: You pull your own strength.
Speaker 6: But up until this week, we've never seen Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 8: So what are you getting next?
Speaker 4: Stand Brian, I.
Speaker 9: Don't feel like I want to do.
Speaker 10: Yes.
Speaker 2: The world is all too much with a superbly named
Speaker 2: high school of the Napoleon Dynamite played by John Peter
Speaker 2: Avlona from a small town in Idaho, who spends his
Speaker 2: time drawing hybrid animals and feeding his lama Tina when
Speaker 2: he is not lying about having a girlfriend or finding
Speaker 2: wolverines in Alaska. Director writer Jared Hess adapts his own
Speaker 2: short film into one of the most unique and idiosyncratic
Speaker 2: comedies of the last twenty years, filled with eccentric characters
Speaker 2: and largely dissolutional characters mind You from Brother Kip player
Speaker 2: Aaron Ruhl, who spends his time in chat rooms with
Speaker 2: his mystery girlfriend. Uncle Rico played by John Grees, who
Speaker 2: builds a time machine so he can relive his glory
Speaker 2: days as a college quarterback. Pedro E friend Ramarez, who
Speaker 2: a new student who launches a presidential campaign, who is
Speaker 2: really good with chicks and has a sweet bike. Napoleon
Speaker 2: Dynamite has an undeniable sweetness and he is not shy
Speaker 2: in prioritizing laughs. Oh and it also has an incredible
Speaker 2: dance sequence, Sushi Mango. Do you guys bring your chapsticks?
Speaker 6: See, I can finally understand what that means now. I
Speaker 6: never I never used to understand what the chapstick was
Speaker 6: all about this, but I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I left it at home.
Speaker 2: Guys, it is this is a historic You ain't seen
Speaker 2: nothing yet. This is the first time we've had more
Speaker 2: than one guest discussing one one movie. So I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I'm nervous, but go anywhere.
Speaker 1: So I've done you.
Speaker 2: I've been a pleasure to be on your podcast, The
Speaker 2: Saucy meat Ball Podcast, and you had biscotti for me
Speaker 2: and all that, I apologize, there's not much of a spread.
Speaker 3: We've got tapwater here.
Speaker 2: Tapwater is lovely and it's clear, and it's a little
Speaker 2: bit murky, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: This must have been hard because most people have chat too.
Speaker 2: It's one person and they can often know exactly what movie,
Speaker 2: two or three movies they haven't seen they feel like
Speaker 2: they should have.
Speaker 1: How did you.
Speaker 2: Guys come to being three of you? What did the
Speaker 2: committee look like deciding that Napoleon Dynamite you hadn't all seen?
Speaker 6: Well, we thought, being that we're in comedy, yeah, we
Speaker 6: should go with a comedy movie. And it's very there's
Speaker 6: minimal amount of movies that we haven't seen in a comedy.
Speaker 3: There was a few on the list. There was another one, which.
Speaker 1: Is Steve Martin one the Jerk, The Jerk.
Speaker 6: I always wanted to see this movie. I don't know
Speaker 6: why I hadn't seen it. Yeah, So I was like, guys,
Speaker 6: what do you reckon? They're like, yeah, I haven't seen
Speaker 6: it either, Let's do it.
Speaker 2: I've told a few people I've got Sushi Mango coming
Speaker 2: in and they go, oh, they're doing good fellas. It's like,
Speaker 2: Sushi Mango haven't seen good Fellas. If they haven't, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure they're not going to put it out there
Speaker 2: into the world.
Speaker 6: And that slightly typecasting, no, but you know what, we
Speaker 6: were looking over those ones, like there's ones on the
Speaker 6: list like The Godfather and and you know, good Fellas
Speaker 6: and Rocky and stuff like that. And I really just
Speaker 6: I actually watched those movies just because.
Speaker 3: You know, I saw them on the list. Anyway, I've
Speaker 3: seen them four thousand times.
Speaker 6: I kept on, I kept on going, let's do Good Fellows,
Speaker 6: or let's do the guy in the colors, going, Man,
Speaker 6: that's what we haven't seen or haven't seen.
Speaker 3: Come on, I would have believe that, Yeah, is.
Speaker 2: There a movie that you haven't seen that your audience
Speaker 2: actually would be shocked that you haven't seen?
Speaker 1: Is there something you know? I imagine you've seen all
Speaker 1: the good godfri.
Speaker 3: We've seen all the Godfathers.
Speaker 6: We've seen all the Good Fellows, I mean, all the
Speaker 6: everything with an Italian a knife and a gun.
Speaker 3: We've seen.
Speaker 1: Cinema Paradise. So have you all seen Cinema paradi I.
Speaker 3: Have seen that. Actually, have you guys seen that?
Speaker 1: That's getting more into the art house, that's I.
Speaker 3: Actually saw that is, anyone does someone get killed in that?
Speaker 1: Or no? No, no, So you haven't seen it?
Speaker 6: Omen been going and seeing talking That film reminds me
Speaker 6: of the movie Happiness. Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 2: The only thing I see when I think of that
Speaker 2: movie is basically is Ejaculine on the wall sipping off
Speaker 2: the rail.
Speaker 1: It's not often you hear that, Jahy, I'm going.
Speaker 6: To find more often, just as many proteins and.
Speaker 3: Turned it down those.
Speaker 1: How did you guys watch this? Watch it separately? Watch
Speaker 1: it together?
Speaker 3: We watched it separately. Yeah, we're in the same.
Speaker 1: And have you discussed amongst yourself.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear what your thought about just yet,
Speaker 2: but have you discussed amongst yourselves what you thought about?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were so we we discussed that via WhatsApp.
Speaker 1: What'spp?
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so there's been some discussion. That's it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1: Okay. Let's talk about your three favorite films.
Speaker 2: We discussed Rocky on the last episode of the season
Speaker 2: with Claire Bowditch, who had a really amazing reaction to
Speaker 2: this movie.
Speaker 1: Color. You told me that you actually heard that episode
Speaker 1: and you're quite proud.
Speaker 6: I was almost cried, I'm I'm an insane fan of this.
Speaker 3: I'm huge. It's it's it's really unnatural how much I
Speaker 3: am I adore him.
Speaker 6: But no, because in life there's you know, you usually
Speaker 6: love your parents, your wife, and your kids.
Speaker 3: Color loves rock Rocky. Then no, but that it was
Speaker 3: good to hear.
Speaker 6: Her take on it, and how much she how much
Speaker 6: more she respected stallone after watching the movie and respected
Speaker 6: the movie.
Speaker 3: She just thought it was all muscle and brawn and
Speaker 3: saw through that.
Speaker 2: And and I can understand it you haven't seen Rocky
Speaker 2: because it becomes Rocky two and Rocky three, you know,
Speaker 2: like it becomes this massive franchise. You can understand that
Speaker 2: people have maybe no idea how good that movie is
Speaker 2: if you've just been hearing about it from afar one.
Speaker 6: Hundred percent, Like it's it's one of those movies that
Speaker 6: a lot of the little grabs you get er or
Speaker 6: punches and blood and you know, lifting things and running
Speaker 6: up steps and stuff like that, or a guy talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, became a parody, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of that, But the first one is
Speaker 3: really it is. It's it's art. Yeah, I say, it's
Speaker 3: a metaphor for life. I've learned everything from it. That's
Speaker 3: how that's how deep I get. Well, the thing is, it's.
Speaker 1: Going to bit far from me, you know, don't get
Speaker 1: me started off.
Speaker 6: Andrew looks like an idiot, Andrew and I, Andrew and
Speaker 6: I are noticed in Rocky twenty seven. Well, they get
Speaker 6: they get a little they get a little bit more
Speaker 6: muscle than sports filmy wpcorn towards the second and towards
Speaker 6: the eighteenth.
Speaker 7: Movie, Rocket was a work of art. The first one.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: That's because it was linked back to the first. You know,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of elements of the first thing.
Speaker 2: I will say, I still think most of the films
Speaker 2: are good film, Like they stand up as pieces of entertainment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're just not They're not just gretty and as as
Speaker 2: it's almost Rockie is almost an arthouse flip. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's it's when you watch it, you're surprised how little
Speaker 2: boxing there actually isn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, you know, it's a love story really
Speaker 6: well at the core of it all, I think when
Speaker 6: he had they had no money in the first one,
Speaker 6: So like there's a scene in it when he is
Speaker 6: running doing it's a running monta, the training montage, and
Speaker 6: then they say this big ship and the story is
Speaker 6: is that when they were running on the docks, the
Speaker 6: ship was behind him and he just started. They just
Speaker 6: had a camera on the side of a van and
Speaker 6: they said get out and run, and it's one of
Speaker 6: the best shots.
Speaker 3: To run through the market.
Speaker 6: That's really that person throwing the iron orange. Yeah, that
Speaker 6: was just a random person and they left it in
Speaker 6: so they're all sawing them now because they didn't, but.
Speaker 2: Would have meant that Roy died to get killed, that's what.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of gorilla shots. Was actually one
Speaker 2: of the first jeadycam movies that they used that he
Speaker 2: came on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that famous, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Believe it was. Was it the first?
Speaker 1: Made me the actually was the actual first. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: they use.
Speaker 3: That that that camera Steady can.
Speaker 1: Well, Rocky's a great choice, Joe. Let's talk about Greece.
Speaker 6: Look, it's it's that that movie that I saw as
Speaker 6: a child, and it's just stuck that. This one's just
Speaker 6: stuck with me for life. You know, I still watch
Speaker 6: it now. I know it word for word. I don't
Speaker 6: like it when anyone else plays Danny Zuko Craig McLoughlin
Speaker 6: tries to do it back in fucking whenever and that
Speaker 6: just upset me too much.
Speaker 1: But when he did a stage show, yeah I saw
Speaker 1: him in London.
Speaker 3: Did a great job.
Speaker 1: You did a good job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have gotten an Italian guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure any sense would they. Craig McLoughlin's getting
Speaker 1: that role for many reasons.
Speaker 3: It's like me playing thor you know.
Speaker 1: Let's not count that out yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, true, No, it's it just stuck me forever, and
Speaker 6: I just I just love it. I just love the
Speaker 6: whole you know, the whole school the whole cool tea
Speaker 6: birds vibe, the whole sixties vibe.
Speaker 2: Did to make you fall in love a little bit
Speaker 2: with America like that American kind of Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: not the first high school movies, absolutely, and that whole
Speaker 2: thing of you know that wearing a jacket and being
Speaker 2: the gang gangs, you.
Speaker 6: Know, and you know cool, you know, like because back
Speaker 6: back in those days when when I was growing up,
Speaker 6: it was Danny Zuko and the Fonds, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, And that was the essential cool, which I
Speaker 6: don't know if I say this now, I'm going to
Speaker 6: get canceled. If I say this, but it was cool
Speaker 6: and and the music man, yeah, I love music, so
Speaker 6: that all that music and all that stuff. I mean
Speaker 6: still that song you're the one that I want that
Speaker 6: baseline and it's just the best baseline you can. You
Speaker 6: can't sit down without moving to it, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Grease Lightning is amazing at all, Like the app
Speaker 2: songs are brilliant, but also some of.
Speaker 1: The ballads was devoted to you and r I pu
Speaker 1: it's only recently passed away.
Speaker 2: They recorded that, so she had that wasn't in any
Speaker 2: original script, so they they Olivin and John had in
Speaker 2: a contract that she needed to have a solo song
Speaker 2: and just said, no, you're getting this solo song. So
Speaker 2: they they they I think they manager actually found this
Speaker 2: song or founded writer to write and they had to
Speaker 2: organize that whole sequence that the Pajama Party Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, which is one of the most famous.
Speaker 3: Sequences the whole film, That whole such.
Speaker 2: Just that song, but it's just what's going on. It's
Speaker 2: absolutely twink twinkie.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 2: That was when I first heard the term condom. You
Speaker 2: when the condom b yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So
Speaker 2: in my mind I thought condom must be it must
Speaker 2: be like a hard thing. So I thought it was
Speaker 2: like econdom had like a hard shell.
Speaker 3: You're spot on.
Speaker 6: So I had no idea, Like when I was a
Speaker 6: kid watching that, I had no idea saying, what was
Speaker 6: a condom?
Speaker 3: What's he using? What's he got in his hand?
Speaker 1: Broke it?
Speaker 3: Broke?
Speaker 1: What broke?
Speaker 3: You kind of heard a noise like a I bought it?
Speaker 6: And then and then Nikki says, I bought it in
Speaker 6: the seventh grade.
Speaker 1: You think he was my favorite for some reason.
Speaker 2: I love it, I mean, and then the older got
Speaker 2: I thought, my daddy's the cool one, Danny's the cool one,
Speaker 2: but they we're both cool.
Speaker 6: I likes a bit more violent, yes, violent, but I
Speaker 6: also love it. I also love the three boys, you know,
Speaker 6: like Sunny, Duty and Putts, because they were just done
Speaker 6: with a comic.
Speaker 3: Relief in the movie. Yeah, exactly exactly. That's who we are.
Speaker 6: That's who we are. We could play that role still now.
Speaker 6: So if anyone's putting grease on any Broadway, give us.
Speaker 7: A call and understand how it is. He just said grease,
Speaker 7: and you you rattled off the scenes that went, how.
Speaker 2: Did you know, Well, I've said this something, and we
Speaker 2: covered Grease on this podcast with Mark Humphreys episode and
Speaker 2: he so I did a little bit of research for that.
Speaker 2: But also I've seen Greece, like Star Wars is one
Speaker 2: of the film I've seen more than any other film, which.
Speaker 1: One though the original Star Original.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite films are Godfather films. But you can't
Speaker 2: watch Godfather, I think, as many times as you want.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 6: For some reason you can't. But you can always play
Speaker 6: out every couple of years. It's one of those couple.
Speaker 3: Of years ones.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, so I I did that, but I reckon
Speaker 2: after Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Grease is probably the next movie I was. Really any
Speaker 1: other movie you have the same reaction.
Speaker 3: I just loved it. It's up there for me too.
Speaker 6: It's one of those ones that you would put in,
Speaker 6: you know, like the tape when you had a day
Speaker 6: off on a Saturday afternoon or something.
Speaker 7: Back in the day, they used to play it every
Speaker 7: every two and a half month.
Speaker 6: Anyway, my auntie had it on video and we obviously
Speaker 6: stayed our grandma's.
Speaker 3: There was no child here when we will brow so
Speaker 3: we used to watch that.
Speaker 6: My grandma has had one on this house and it
Speaker 6: just stuck with me forever. But like we're saying, there's
Speaker 6: things in that movie when we were kids, the condom,
Speaker 6: the the when when Danny's singing Sandy and the bread
Speaker 6: jumps in.
Speaker 3: The behind him.
Speaker 6: Is all those little bread the sausage jumps in the
Speaker 6: bread when when when you know, when when the Sandy
Speaker 6: was vomiting just before she sings that song. You know,
Speaker 6: I didn't realize that she was drunk or you know,
Speaker 6: you know she saw the blood from the ear and
Speaker 6: like you just you you learn more and more as
Speaker 6: you as you got older.
Speaker 2: From that episode, we had some of the biggest feedback
Speaker 2: we've got because I asked a question when Danny says
Speaker 2: or something maybe Patsy or Duty says, were drugs as
Speaker 2: big as he says? Nobody's drugs? Growing up, I thought
Speaker 2: her drugs are bigger than a net, think like a nets,
Speaker 2: like a fishing nets.
Speaker 1: I was like, how the boobs work? That's That's where
Speaker 1: I knew jugs meant boobs?
Speaker 2: I don't know, And then I realized it was a
Speaker 2: nett and I put out the question who is a net?
Speaker 2: And then like we still get people obviously catching up
Speaker 2: in episodes going just so you know, it was a
Speaker 2: net fun of Cello who was from the Mickey Mouse Club.
Speaker 1: Oh well, dad.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I just thought it was some
Speaker 3: chicken net from the high school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, and that and that fun of Cello.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: You can stop every one of the emails. We know
Speaker 2: it was Anckey mouse Club.
Speaker 3: Nobody's jugs are bigger than But the.
Speaker 2: Only thing watching it as an adult is you got
Speaker 2: Rizzo was a character I never really got growing sure,
Speaker 2: maybe because you look forty years old and.
Speaker 1: Stock card chatting. Maybe outside of John Travolda's had the
Speaker 1: best career correct potentially as a working act. Correct. And
Speaker 1: she sings that song about you know that.
Speaker 2: I was always fast forward, Yeah, yes, that and Pinky's Fantasy,
Speaker 2: you know, fast forward those songs, and it was about
Speaker 2: it was basically about being slut shamed. And when I
Speaker 2: watched it recently for this podcast, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I got it, And I think actually is one of the.
Speaker 1: More interesting Absolutely in this movie. You gotta watch it.
Speaker 6: As she's deep, she's got some like some some dark
Speaker 6: things going on. It's good to say come it all
Speaker 6: works out in the end, they're all together. In the
Speaker 6: they all together and they'll always be together.
Speaker 3: The things I could do Bye to, I have.
Speaker 1: To go watch this. I can't remember anything. What dogs and.
Speaker 7: You.
Speaker 1: Let's get onto The Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 7: Wow, I haven't seen that movie years, Reves.
Speaker 2: I've only seen it the once. So explain the premise
Speaker 2: for for those who maybe, Oh.
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer.
Speaker 7: So plays a lawyer who has never lost the case.
Speaker 7: And then he gets recruited by this al Pacino character
Speaker 7: who runs the biggest law firm in I don't rember
Speaker 7: where it is, but and he's secretly he's the devil.
Speaker 7: Al Pacino plays the role of the devil and obviously
Speaker 7: his law firm defends criminals and all the worst kind
Speaker 7: of people, and he is and he succumbs to the
Speaker 7: law of al Pacino and in in as a story
Speaker 7: pans out, he neglects his wife. She ends up killing herself.
Speaker 7: And it's really deep and nasty. It's really I'm quite disturbed.
Speaker 1: We found the dark side himself.
Speaker 2: Were Greece and Rocky he's a he's a sith law.
Speaker 6: You've got one guy going, you know, it's about life.
Speaker 6: Rocky is about life. This is my journey in life.
Speaker 3: One is I love the music.
Speaker 6: It's guys like, it's basically about death, basically about evil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought we're get and did you see that
Speaker 1: when it came out?
Speaker 2: As it the movie that's been a long time favorite
Speaker 2: or recently, it's just one of.
Speaker 7: Those movies I've saw at the movies, didn't particularly know
Speaker 7: anything about it at the time. That's just just go
Speaker 7: watch the latest Appatunita movie. It went out and watched
Speaker 7: it and it just it struck me down as there's
Speaker 7: so many underlying messages in that movie if you really
Speaker 7: sit down and watch it, and there's a bit at
Speaker 7: the end where Alputuner says, you know, it calls God
Speaker 7: the biggest pranks through in the world. It gives men
Speaker 7: and women every all the temptations and look but don't
Speaker 7: touch Dutch. But there's this big spilt there and I went, oh, fuck, man,
Speaker 7: this is that movie is like it's.
Speaker 3: Pretty for long.
Speaker 6: I watched it about maybe three months ago and it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only seen it twice.
Speaker 1: You've got to watch.
Speaker 7: It like a number of times and then you start
Speaker 7: there's more. There's so many level in it and it
Speaker 7: really gets you thinking, like every time I watched it,
Speaker 7: I feel like I need to go to church, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that was that was pre Matrix Kiano, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier nineties, I think, Yeah, great, great. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go back and watch The Devil's Advocate again.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time.
Speaker 2: What about Rocky, Well, I mean so many, not too many.
Speaker 2: You can never watch Rocky too many times. But I've
Speaker 2: seen a lot and we'll happily watch it again very soon.
Speaker 2: But akay, guys, let's get into the movie We are
Speaker 2: here to talk about Today from two thousand and four,
Speaker 2: directed by Jared hess And and he wrote it as well,
Speaker 2: starring John Heater as the titular character, Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Did we enjoy it?
Speaker 6: I gotta tell you started watching it yep, if you
Speaker 6: don't mind me saying I had a bad review going in.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, because because one of one.
Speaker 3: Of the members here that what wasn't me?
Speaker 1: Why are you pointing fingers.
Speaker 3: Another man.
Speaker 1: About?
Speaker 3: Anyway, So we all watched it. He watched it first.
Speaker 3: He didn't particularly is like struggle to watch it?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I went in there and I was thinking.
Speaker 6: I started watching it and I was like, I'm going
Speaker 6: to struggle to watch this because I didn't like the
Speaker 6: character from the start.
Speaker 3: He just got on the bus and he was like,
Speaker 3: he's going to do whatever I want to do, and he.
Speaker 6: Through He threw the significance of throwing the doll out
Speaker 6: the window on a piece of string and seeing it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because he lives in a small town
Speaker 2: and that's what fucking fun looks like.
Speaker 1: I think that's what the point.
Speaker 3: Of it is. As as it got on.
Speaker 6: As as the movie went on, I was like, I'm
Speaker 6: going to struggle, But then I started opening up.
Speaker 3: I was like, I just don't mind his character.
Speaker 6: By the time we got to one particular scene where he.
Speaker 3: Cops, he keeps a steak to the face.
Speaker 6: Man, I was like, I like this, I'm all right,
Speaker 6: it's getting me. And then it just got better. Towards
Speaker 6: the end, it just really got it got good and
Speaker 6: I enjoyed it. And as I was watching it, I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: this movie now, I didn't know who that direct. As
Speaker 6: I was watching it, I think this movie reminds me
Speaker 6: of natural libre. Natural libre. I love natural libre. It's
Speaker 6: just the way it's shot, the way the characters their
Speaker 6: facial expressions, the way they interacted, the way the cars
Speaker 6: would pull up, the angles of the shots. You know,
Speaker 6: some of the characters, Like there was one in particular
Speaker 6: with the egg where they had that the egg sandwiches,
Speaker 6: the silence flies.
Speaker 3: The flies all over the eggs and stuff. I was like,
Speaker 3: this is like natural.
Speaker 1: Libre looked it up.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's Jared Hess.
Speaker 1: The very next film with Jack Black, so I actually
Speaker 1: enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: I ended up really enjoying it and liking the character
Speaker 6: and anything about fun.
Speaker 2: A little fun fact was Jack Black almost played Rex
Speaker 2: for rex Quondo.
Speaker 1: Ah, and let's have a little listen.
Speaker 2: Before we get Joe's thoughts, and then we'll delve into
Speaker 2: Andrew's thoughts as well.
Speaker 1: On Napoleon Dynamite. Let's have a listen to the rex Kondo.
Speaker 1: I'm Rex, father.
Speaker 3: Of the rex Quondo self defense system.
Speaker 9: After one week with me and my dojo, you'll be
Speaker 9: prepared to defend yourself with the streak.
Speaker 3: Of prisly.
Speaker 1: The replaces of a Cuba. There, calm down today, A
Speaker 1: free title lesson the Wisdom of a man. I do
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: As a line before we get Andrew because we we
Speaker 2: want to delve into maybe his first reactions.
Speaker 1: But Joe, what did you make of it?
Speaker 6: I was the same as my brother, to be honest,
Speaker 6: I was like, because I've heard the first review and
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, probably not going to like it. But
Speaker 6: then a friend of ours also said, well, we told
Speaker 6: a friend of ours were watching it, and he said, oh,
Speaker 6: you guys aren't going to like it because so far
Speaker 6: away from what the comedy that you usually watch or
Speaker 6: usually like. But the same thing happened. I sort of
Speaker 6: struggled for the first half hour, and then.
Speaker 2: Are you guys considering At one point, were you guys
Speaker 2: messaging each other on what's up going?
Speaker 1: Can we get out of the podcast? Consider changing the movie?
Speaker 6: But then I was like, and then, but then, as
Speaker 6: Color was saying, I'm looking at this movie going some
Speaker 6: of this stuff looks like familiar. I've seen this, this
Speaker 6: this type of directing before, and I'm like, where have
Speaker 6: I seen it?
Speaker 3: Where have I said?
Speaker 6: I started sort of just sort of what you know, obviously,
Speaker 6: keep going through it. And when I started seeing you know,
Speaker 6: al Rico throwing filming himself throwing those you know, those
Speaker 6: those gridiron balls around. I'm like, this guy's filming himself
Speaker 6: in the middle of nowhere. It's like, again, see.
Speaker 3: How he was throwing it? Why was he throwing it
Speaker 3: from his hip? I started noticing all the little.
Speaker 1: And then he throng with a broken arm.
Speaker 6: And then and then I'm like, where where have I
Speaker 6: seen this thing before? Then the dance scene came, and
Speaker 6: that was I love that dance scene.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That's that a little wind, you know. But I kept
Speaker 3: on thinking, why is this guy's eyes so closed? Why
Speaker 3: his eyes always are so closed? And he was so
Speaker 3: upset and so angry with the world.
Speaker 6: And then the bullies at the school, and and every
Speaker 6: time that that guy smashed it, he goes, okay, that's stings,
Speaker 6: you know. And the dancing and then and then anyway,
Speaker 6: in any end, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I did. I started to like it towards the end.
Speaker 3: In the actual fact, I want to watch it again now.
Speaker 1: To be honest.
Speaker 2: And this is a podcast where people and I am
Speaker 2: always a pains to point this out to the audience
Speaker 2: that you have just watched this film, so you are
Speaker 2: still processing correct this film. This happened quite a few
Speaker 2: times in this podcast where somebody has come on and gone,
Speaker 2: wasn't so much into it, and then we're going to
Speaker 2: discuss it. And I'm not trying to commit to it.
Speaker 2: You need to even like it, but but I think
Speaker 2: through discussing you're going to go Actually, there were some
Speaker 2: funny bits, and now there's a certain comfort of a
Speaker 2: second view.
Speaker 1: Absolutely got to go. The pressure is not on.
Speaker 2: We've we've done the podcast and now you can just
Speaker 2: watch it and kind of go.
Speaker 1: Actually, we know where it gets to and we know.
Speaker 6: Well when we're talking afterwards in the WhatsApp again color guys,
Speaker 6: I've fixed something in this movie. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you guys have noticed. And then I wrote in the
Speaker 6: in the text.
Speaker 3: Nacho and I said yes. He said yes, I didn't.
Speaker 3: It's a good per He said, yes, exactly.
Speaker 6: And I just thought, just exactly by some of the angles,
Speaker 6: some of the shots, because Nacho Libra has those, like
Speaker 6: you said, those shots where there's silence or no one
Speaker 6: says anything first and there's just noises, little buzzing noises
Speaker 6: and things like that. As you can see, I'm kind
Speaker 6: of film for film a conoisseur so but there's.
Speaker 2: Also a little bit of where's as about this film
Speaker 2: is absolutely static shots that maybe move a pan or
Speaker 2: or a whip, and the opening sequence has a lot
Speaker 2: of Wes Anderson about it.
Speaker 1: Andrew, what are your thoughts? Mate? Uti?
Speaker 2: First you jumped in first, and you spread the word
Speaker 2: your black.
Speaker 7: Heart, spread the affected them a little bit, spread the
Speaker 7: devil's word.
Speaker 1: That was my point point is.
Speaker 7: Within the first three minutes, I was thinking there's not
Speaker 7: enough devils or deaths and dark.
Speaker 1: For my liking.
Speaker 7: And then the second look I started watching it, I
Speaker 7: think my initial thoughts were and this is why I
Speaker 7: text him, Man, you've got to be on opiates or
Speaker 7: heavy drugs to enjoy this.
Speaker 1: But as I watched it, I loosened up a bit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I started understanding the heavy drugs. I took
Speaker 7: some drugs. But the real what got me about the
Speaker 7: movie was that there's some real stupid ship in it
Speaker 7: that really appealed to me. Like when he falls off
Speaker 7: the footage run away from his uncle and he falls
Speaker 7: off the fence, steak in the face and there's a done.
Speaker 7: The two bits that stick out to me it is
Speaker 7: like when he was dancing in his room, he comes
Speaker 7: down all.
Speaker 1: The game and now how he drinked the game.
Speaker 7: It was really aggressive, put it back in the fridge
Speaker 7: without the leader. And another bit when he was wrestling
Speaker 7: with his brother and he goes, I think I'm all off.
Speaker 1: He guess it's a bleeding.
Speaker 3: He goes a little bit, A little bit. It's like
Speaker 3: those little nuances that start happening.
Speaker 7: So I came around to it. I got into it.
Speaker 7: I got into the film eventually, but it is it
Speaker 7: is so far removed from what I'm used to watching.
Speaker 7: But yeah, it would turn out being a pretty funny
Speaker 7: film because.
Speaker 2: It's also I never really think of it as a
Speaker 2: high school movie, because high school movies, even if they're
Speaker 2: set in like smaller cities, they's still like big towns
Speaker 2: or big cities. This is like one of the most
Speaker 2: remote high school movies I've seen. He lives in the
Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, and this is the director's hometown. This
Speaker 2: is made on forty thousand dollars. It goes on and
Speaker 2: makes forty eight million dollars. Crazy, and everyone's in it
Speaker 2: is basically a friend outside of there's a couple of actors.
Speaker 6: Who John John head heater, heater, right heater. He got
Speaker 6: paid one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be hopefully. Hopefully there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of back ending.
Speaker 6: As it started kicking, So I did a little bit
Speaker 6: of Wikipedia as it kicked up. You know, it got
Speaker 6: onto bigger things. He negotiated more, but I don't know
Speaker 6: if if he got a back end or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy to hear that he got at least
Speaker 1: some more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the negotiation, you think, hopefully, because they did
Speaker 2: a cartoon fucked At a Cartoon in twenty twelve, which
Speaker 2: acts as a as a kind of sequel, which, if
Speaker 2: you think about, actually makes sense because these characters feel quite.
Speaker 1: Absolutely don't they.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean there's a version of these where
Speaker 2: if these are Saturday Night Live characters, they're they're bigger.
Speaker 1: You know, you can.
Speaker 2: Imagine that Mike Myer is doing a version of you know,
Speaker 2: these kinds of characters. But I love, I mean, I
Speaker 2: really like, I really do like this. I saw on
Speaker 2: its release there's a lot of buzz about it. It
Speaker 2: was a big hit at sun Dance and and I
Speaker 2: immediately liked it. But I think this is go back
Speaker 2: to the high school point because it's it's got all
Speaker 2: the tropes of a high school movie. You know, there's
Speaker 2: all the locker rooms. You know, the locker rooms scene.
Speaker 2: Let's have a little to listen to the locker room
Speaker 2: scene when he's talking to the three jocks, and it's
Speaker 2: it's they handle. A lot of high school movies will
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time with the relations between the
Speaker 2: jocks and the you know, the protagonist, or especially if
Speaker 2: that protagonist is a nerd, if you like for one
Speaker 2: of a better term. But this is very economic, and
Speaker 2: let's ever.
Speaker 4: Listen, Napoleon, what did you do on last summer?
Speaker 11: Again?
Speaker 3: I told you I spent with my uncle in Alaska? Honey, wolverines?
Speaker 3: Did you shoot any Yeah, it's like fifty of them.
Speaker 3: They kept trying to take my cousins.
Speaker 9: What the heck would you do in a situation like that?
Speaker 3: What kind of gun did you use? A freaking twelve gage?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 1: It's silly? Just it's so childish, and it's like.
Speaker 2: You know, it really is, and that's why I love
Speaker 2: about it, and I also don't, so actually I would
Speaker 2: make the high school point.
Speaker 1: And so you got you got the lockers.
Speaker 2: You know, you got the locker room, you got the cafeteria,
Speaker 2: you've got the mean girls, you've got the you know,
Speaker 2: you have the love interest, you have the miscommunication with
Speaker 2: the love interests, and then you have the prom. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like a classic tropy high school movie, but
Speaker 2: the set in a town that we never see, with
Speaker 2: characters that we never see.
Speaker 1: I love that Napoleon is.
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows well post it is a question,
Speaker 2: do you think he knows he's such an outcast?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I think he does.
Speaker 6: I think he's oblivious and he's just that's the thing.
Speaker 6: Like at the start, I was I didn't like him.
Speaker 6: I was like, look at this kid man, like he's
Speaker 6: just he's mean.
Speaker 1: He was. He was a mean guy.
Speaker 6: Like as soon as he got in he was described
Speaker 6: he's mean, and the person's like, what are you going
Speaker 6: to do today?
Speaker 3: So he's going to do whatever I want.
Speaker 6: You know, he's yelling at people's he's snapping at people.
Speaker 6: So I don't think he knew he was. I think
Speaker 6: he just went about his life in his own sort
Speaker 6: of his own sort of way. When he used to
Speaker 6: go and feed the lama or whatever it was coming up,
Speaker 6: have some ham, they could go run up to the alarm.
Speaker 3: And give it some hand, because you know, so yeah,
Speaker 3: to answer that, I don't think he does know he's
Speaker 3: an outcast.
Speaker 6: He's just the other thing too is I think if
Speaker 6: I knew more about the movie when I went into
Speaker 6: watching it, that I knew that it was about this
Speaker 6: town and about this kid.
Speaker 1: So what did you know?
Speaker 3: I did nothing?
Speaker 1: Nothing at all.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 6: All I know is that they used to sell Vote
Speaker 6: for Pedro t shirts and I saw them everywhere for
Speaker 6: a while, and I used to walk around, going, who
Speaker 6: the fuck is can I swear on this?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 6: Who the hell is Pedro? Who the hell is Pedro?
Speaker 6: I had no idea. And then Napoleon Dynamite. I always
Speaker 6: knew Napoleon Dynamite was, but never knew anything about the movie.
Speaker 6: So going and if I satly knew it was about
Speaker 6: this and about that, but I went completely blind and going,
Speaker 6: I have no idea what's going on here or why
Speaker 6: it's happening here?
Speaker 1: Were the things in the movie.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we all had very different high school experiences
Speaker 2: because we didn't go to high school. Yeah, were there
Speaker 2: things about it that you felt familiar to you from
Speaker 2: your own high school experience?
Speaker 6: There's things about the character that I've seen in people
Speaker 6: at school, school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that that guy who's.
Speaker 6: A little bit disgruntled and you know, very sensitive, the bully,
Speaker 6: the runoff, like the runoffs stop bling me.
Speaker 3: When he throws the badge and runs out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's there's elements of that character.
Speaker 7: But the fact that he asked for the badge, God
Speaker 7: gives it to him. What would he give it to him.
Speaker 1: When he was.
Speaker 6: Yes, So if I knew a bit more about it,
Speaker 6: That's why I want to watch it again, because now
Speaker 6: I look at it differently. Okay, I get what this
Speaker 6: is about now, and get and get to see these
Speaker 6: little nuances that I might have missed earlier, because.
Speaker 2: There are so many, so many little there's so you
Speaker 2: already identified about half a dozen of them already.
Speaker 3: And and and the potato gems in his pocket.
Speaker 1: Potato guy kicks you guys.
Speaker 3: Did you guys notice, did you guys notice the part?
Speaker 3: I just want to see if all the end? When
Speaker 3: I discussed this with you earlier.
Speaker 1: Pedro, he shaved his head. His head was hot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you notice?
Speaker 3: But when he was sitting in his he had he
Speaker 3: still had the wing on.
Speaker 6: He was sitting in his couch at home, and the
Speaker 6: wig was all wet because he was sweating through the wig.
Speaker 6: I didn't see that that little That little thing made
Speaker 6: me laugh so much that he that he was sweating
Speaker 6: through his wig on the couch.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, little bit.
Speaker 2: It's just a funny thing that these things happen, and
Speaker 2: we forgive it and we're okay with it because we
Speaker 2: in the subconsciously we know this is an indie film.
Speaker 2: This is a big budget for me going to go,
Speaker 2: hang on, Why was Pedro so almost violently ill that
Speaker 2: he was sweating so much that he had to shave
Speaker 2: his head like.
Speaker 11: It was.
Speaker 1: Because he's hot. Why do you in a hot bar?
Speaker 1: You don't question it. You don't question why they're judging
Speaker 1: cowns all of a sudden with the milk.
Speaker 3: He's just tasting the milk that one's got, whatever in it,
Speaker 3: that one's got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It worked. It's just the little things with the potato gems.
Speaker 6: When he puts the gems in his pocket, the whole
Speaker 6: thing goes in, squashes it in, and then zips it
Speaker 6: up and then wipes a little bit left.
Speaker 7: I have to go watch it again because even now
Speaker 7: I don't get it. I know what happened Okay, what
Speaker 7: happy ending. But I don't I have to go back
Speaker 7: and piece it all together because I didn't get there
Speaker 7: was so many random things in there and they've got
Speaker 7: to be connected somehow, and I don't see the connection.
Speaker 3: Well, he gets his time in the end and he
Speaker 3: saves the day.
Speaker 1: He is the hero.
Speaker 6: The dance is the best, you know, ye blods him
Speaker 6: and he gets his moment and he saves Pedro Pedro's campaign.
Speaker 6: But again I also think the dance the music choice
Speaker 6: that Canned Heat by Jamiroquai again the perfect song it is.
Speaker 2: It is so good and let's let's let's let's hang
Speaker 2: off and getting into the end for for a little
Speaker 2: bit because I wanted let's let's have a listen, because
Speaker 2: there's other characters who are I think, I think uniformly awesome.
Speaker 2: I think Kip is just.
Speaker 3: Because that was amazing, like the relationship with what's his name.
Speaker 2: Uncle, well, uncle Ricaco. But so in my mind, and
Speaker 2: you guys suspecting that there's no real girlfriend here. We
Speaker 2: we all heard about that guy at high school who
Speaker 2: had the girlfriend in Nadelaide.
Speaker 7: Yeah he was a I finally discover with that gift
Speaker 7: that that yes, yes, from that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, sorry, yeah, broake you off. No, no, not
Speaker 1: but but not at all.
Speaker 2: And I loved I love the fact that he was
Speaker 2: in his own, very his own understand way, quite positive.
Speaker 2: And then when Lafnaa I think arrives.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that she was real, real, I
Speaker 3: was expecting someone to come after life and she.
Speaker 2: Was gorgeous, you know, like that was to me. There
Speaker 2: could have been a hundred different ways to play that
Speaker 2: as a gag.
Speaker 6: I thought that they would go there's a party in
Speaker 6: the movie where he said, she's never sent me a
Speaker 6: full full body shot.
Speaker 3: So I thought that she was going to be on
Speaker 3: the larger side.
Speaker 6: Or with one of those ones with the five kids,
Speaker 6: you know that were coming off the bus. And then
Speaker 6: and even when she met him, she was sitting with him.
Speaker 6: I'm waiting for her to rob him or or just
Speaker 6: do something bad to him, you know, because that's what
Speaker 6: a movie would do, like some sort of to someone
Speaker 6: like him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like there's there's a much cheaper joke. They could
Speaker 2: have had it correct, correct, but it was perfect.
Speaker 3: The way they did it.
Speaker 1: It was perfect.
Speaker 2: And we have Uncle Rico, and I think Uncle Rico
Speaker 2: and Kip together just magical, and I love that Kip
Speaker 2: seems to kind of of he wants Rico there. Napoleon
Speaker 2: he sees it as a jerk and he wants your map,
Speaker 2: but keeps note you can stay, you can stay. Let's
Speaker 2: have a little listen of Uncle Rico having a chat
Speaker 2: about This is just after he's throwing a steak in
Speaker 2: Napoleon's place, which apparently the actor John Grees did actually
Speaker 2: throw the steak from off camera. This is how low
Speaker 2: budgeted is. So I know we have got like two stakes.
Speaker 2: Make sure you get the shot. The sound that you hear,
Speaker 2: there's no sound effect. That's a sound, that's a slap
Speaker 2: of the steak hitting hitting John Heater in the face.
Speaker 1: And then he has his chat with his nephew.
Speaker 11: How much you want to make a bet? I can
Speaker 11: throw a football over the mountains? Well, the coach would
Speaker 11: have put me in fourth quarter. We'd have been state champions,
Speaker 11: no doubt, no doubt my mind. You better believe things
Speaker 11: that have been different. I'd have gone pro a heartbeat.
Speaker 11: I'd be making millions of dollars and living in a
Speaker 11: big old mansion somewhere.
Speaker 1: Talking it up.
Speaker 6: My soul.
Speaker 12: Kill I reckon, you know a lot about cyber space.
Speaker 12: You ever come across anything like time travel.
Speaker 1: Easy, I've already looked into it for myself, right on.
Speaker 1: I love that reply from I've already looked into it myself.
Speaker 3: Another funny part was when Napoleon actually tried tried it.
Speaker 2: Noises, And it's funny because it the only time because
Speaker 2: keeps quite I think, quite kind to Napoleon. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the only time because when he's like being basically electrocuted,
Speaker 2: there's a weird, sinister smile.
Speaker 1: There's there's a side of kid that I haven't seen before.
Speaker 7: With Kip when when Uncle Rico right ye took the
Speaker 7: steak he was eating and he didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: It was okay with the fact that his uncle just
Speaker 1: to take off the plate through it it was freshly cooked.
Speaker 1: He just he just cooked it sat there.
Speaker 3: You know what I love about the steak because they
Speaker 3: will frozen and see how much water was on the plate.
Speaker 3: It's those little details.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the little detail when Uncle Rico is talking
Speaker 2: to Kip in the in the little diner and all
Speaker 2: Anco is asking questions, but all he's doing is looking
Speaker 2: at his flexing his yah, just looking at his own
Speaker 2: arms and look, okay, I look okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again.
Speaker 6: That's why I want to watch it again, because there
Speaker 6: were so many bits that you sort of noticed, and
Speaker 6: I noticed him. But then I'm like, why is this happening?
Speaker 6: There's really no reason why stuff was happening. It was Yeah,
Speaker 6: there was a point in that movie I was thinking,
Speaker 6: there's nothing, no one, no one's going anywhere. Yeah, no
Speaker 6: one's going anywhere. But then it all just sort of came.
Speaker 1: And and things.
Speaker 2: Things do happen slowly, and that does gain momentum, obviously,
Speaker 2: and I think sometimes they potentially shoehorn some story and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Petro running for presidents.
Speaker 1: What what happened? What happened?
Speaker 2: But let's ever listened to another character deb But she
Speaker 2: has already been to Napoleon's house with her her cosmetics.
Speaker 2: I guess burnt by kick with a with a well
Speaker 2: timed your mum gag, which is I just think it's
Speaker 2: so funny. But and then in the cafeteria, he's he's
Speaker 2: met Rico. Sorry, Pedro will get to him soon, and
Speaker 2: he goes to the deb as a he challenges himself,
Speaker 2: really doesn't he goes, I bet you don't think I can.
Speaker 1: Do you want to bet me that I can't? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's ever listen.
Speaker 10: Let's see a drinking one percent?
Speaker 1: Is that because you think you're fat? Because you're not.
Speaker 10: You could be drinking half you wanted to.
Speaker 1: Oh this is a big half the say I forgot
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 7: That was hilarious, man, people shed half the sanguige got
Speaker 7: a big chunk of things.
Speaker 6: Yes, that is so like hilarious and offensive in a way,
Speaker 6: like he just doesn't give a ship. What he says
Speaker 6: is just gone straight through and said, hey, you know
Speaker 6: you can be drinking four cream milk.
Speaker 3: What the hell.
Speaker 2: That's why I agree with this strike Earlier, I think
Speaker 2: he realized what an outside is because he just you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, he's probably on a spectrum somewhere. You know,
Speaker 2: he's probably it's probably that to look into, but he
Speaker 2: just goes for it. Yeah, you know, whether it's trying
Speaker 2: he man at the bustard, you know, or or saying
Speaker 2: that to deb he just he's his own man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's he's just to the beauty, his own drum, oblivious.
Speaker 1: And he's no filter, no filter, no at all.
Speaker 2: Of Because you meet Rico, I like that Napoleon sees
Speaker 2: an opportunity when he's he overhears that the guesses that
Speaker 2: Rico is a new student because the Pedro, sorry, the
Speaker 2: principals introducing him and show him around the school. And
Speaker 2: Napoleon seeses on this opportunity others than you as a
Speaker 2: new kid. He doesn't know my history, yeah right right,
Speaker 2: he doesn't know I've got no friends, and he just
Speaker 2: takes he adopts him. But in the end, it's actually
Speaker 2: I think Pedro who takes Napoleon under his wing, because
Speaker 2: Napoleon kind of.
Speaker 1: Goes for stuff.
Speaker 2: He'll go for stuff, but Pedro's all of a sudden
Speaker 2: asking girls out and baking cakes for the hot girl
Speaker 2: yes in class. And then and then I might say
Speaker 2: a bit of a dog act from Pedro. He has
Speaker 2: deb yes, Dad, that just.
Speaker 6: And Napoleon took it like a champ. He did again oblivious, Yeah, just.
Speaker 6: I think he only sees what's in front of him
Speaker 6: at the time. Yeah, Napoleon, you know, almost he doesn't
Speaker 6: whatever's there at the time or what's happening doesn't really
Speaker 6: fair well, he was oblivious that he was the hero
Speaker 6: in the end of Pedro's victory right, and yeah.
Speaker 3: Girl, he gets the girl, and he gets the girl.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Let's let's chat about those victories, because you're right, Joe, like,
Speaker 2: they all have these little victories and there I think
Speaker 2: they're so beautifully proportioned victories. But you don't want it
Speaker 2: to be that they win a million dollars at the
Speaker 2: end of the year and then their lives share. Nobody's
Speaker 2: life is changed completely, you know. But we have Napoleon
Speaker 2: who steps up for his friend. It's probably the first
Speaker 2: time he's ever actually maybe the first time he's had
Speaker 2: a real friend, and it's the first time then he's
Speaker 2: actually had to step up for a friend and help
Speaker 2: a friend, and he makes that choice.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure. I've never been to the
Speaker 1: school where a presidential you know, campaign has had a
Speaker 1: skin it attached.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels a little bit convenient, but we allow it.
Speaker 2: It's fun and it does. It is like one of
Speaker 2: the most famous sequences in the film. And he's is dancing.
Speaker 3: Actually quite good.
Speaker 2: Well you've got to expecting you must have been thinking
Speaker 2: train wreck here. Yeah, it's gonna be David Branch in
Speaker 2: the office.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's goods.
Speaker 3: I read that.
Speaker 6: They they I think he was he liked dancing, yeah,
Speaker 6: and they put that together shot it I think three
Speaker 6: he danced three times. Oh really yeah, so he just
Speaker 6: did it on the spot, just did it on a
Speaker 6: spot three times.
Speaker 3: And they picked the best bits.
Speaker 6: But apparently half the budget this I don't know if
Speaker 6: this is right, half the budget of the movie is
Speaker 6: for that song because.
Speaker 3: When was it made?
Speaker 2: So released So this this is all based on a
Speaker 2: short film that they made Shotland's Super sixteen I think,
Speaker 2: or maybe him Super Great. He's a black and white
Speaker 2: and the character played by John Heater is named Seth.
Speaker 2: And there are things like what's in that that's actually
Speaker 2: in the film that the l Rico Pedro getting the wig.
Speaker 2: It's basically about that. Really, that's what it's about. It's
Speaker 2: actually not it's not Pedro. It's one of Pedro's friends
Speaker 2: getting the wig. So it's and it's like a six
Speaker 2: to seven minute short film. And that was invited to
Speaker 2: think on slam Dance and they've got a bit of
Speaker 2: heat there and then they came up with the idea,
Speaker 2: let's make a film, ye and they.
Speaker 6: I believe they wanted to give obviously read a bit
Speaker 6: on it. They wanted to give the role to Jake
Speaker 6: gi Yeah, exact.
Speaker 3: And if it's not, if it's not Reeves or Opportunity.
Speaker 1: You'll know Jake Gillenhall from or Donnie Darko to go Back,
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 3: He did the Fighter as well, Broake Back Mountain, Broke
Speaker 3: Back Mountain.
Speaker 1: The other guy. Yeah, no, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got the director said no, he's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and good on him for sticking.
Speaker 3: Has to play this guy. Yeah, yeah, he's good.
Speaker 6: I kept on looking at this guy, going, man, he
Speaker 6: looks familiar. Where have I seen this guy? Where have
Speaker 6: I seen this guy? And he played with Blades of Glory?
Speaker 6: Was he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Skating, I've seen that.
Speaker 6: And I knew that he had done Napoleon Dynamite, and
Speaker 6: it was I didn't you see. That's the thing I
Speaker 6: knew about this movie, but I just I just never
Speaker 6: got around to watching.
Speaker 7: No idea I knew about the movie Napoleon Dynamite. This
Speaker 7: is why I think I was disappointed. When I first Yeah,
Speaker 7: I started watching, I thought it was going to some
Speaker 7: grand film. Here we go, here we go, and I
Speaker 7: love Michael, this guy with his stupid hair, and so
Speaker 7: what the hell are we watching what is he called
Speaker 7: Napoleon Dynamite. Just never there was a quite there was
Speaker 7: that what happened to his mum?
Speaker 3: She just left?
Speaker 1: Man, I think that parents were probably no longer.
Speaker 7: It was never was never explained why he was living
Speaker 7: with his name and then just yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 7: that was and I was like, I don't know what
Speaker 7: was going.
Speaker 1: On there anyway. Yeah, but I think it's funny.
Speaker 2: Different films have their own culture and what they give
Speaker 2: you and what they hold back, and sometimes it matters.
Speaker 1: And it obviously mattered to you that you did not
Speaker 1: know where the parents were. Well in the storyline, I
Speaker 1: was like, she just she's just gone.
Speaker 3: Was explained though that she she just she.
Speaker 1: Injured herself jumping off.
Speaker 3: In the end, the ground came back because it was
Speaker 3: kissing said, she's actually on one of those sand dunes
Speaker 3: in that car.
Speaker 1: It was a lie. It's hilarious. It's hilarious.
Speaker 6: You don't need, you know, I don't think you need,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, in a movie like this, you don't
Speaker 6: need an intricate explanation about every character what they're doing,
Speaker 6: and none of it needs to make sense.
Speaker 3: In fact, it helped the movie that didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, in my opinion, these big jumps are
Speaker 2: kind of going, Okay, now we're here growing well again.
Speaker 7: It's like Joe said, I if I'd read up a
Speaker 7: bit about the movie, maybe I would have gone out
Speaker 7: to expect it.
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: In that part.
Speaker 6: But they go back to school after the cow thing.
Speaker 6: They're both wearing Jacko's jackets and medals.
Speaker 3: One when you think about it, like I was looking
Speaker 3: at going why are they wearing those medals? What did
Speaker 3: they win?
Speaker 1: They wont the milk tasting whatever it was.
Speaker 7: And then the bit when the grandma comes back, all
Speaker 7: you see she's kissing the and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's it.
Speaker 3: That part she was kissing the lamb.
Speaker 6: I was real close up sure her kissing the love
Speaker 6: the most ridiculously funny shot of the head kissing a
Speaker 6: lama perfect, but also the random uh Pedro's cousins coming
Speaker 6: along the road.
Speaker 3: And then and then he cuts to them when the
Speaker 3: car favorite characters.
Speaker 1: That was that was and that was such a funny cut,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Like it's funny that he runs away after two gentle
Speaker 2: knocks at the door and goes, Okay, I guess I
Speaker 2: just run to Tricia's house. Awesome drawing of Tricia. By
Speaker 2: the way, the eyes were so far apart. Would say,
Speaker 2: you guys, it took me like three hours to get
Speaker 2: the shading on your upper lip right.
Speaker 3: But on the note it also said, you know if
Speaker 3: you if you come to problem and me, there'd be
Speaker 3: more of this.
Speaker 2: And then the idea like you know he you know
Speaker 2: when he she calls and she's doing under sufferings because
Speaker 2: their parents, You are going out with this kid, and
Speaker 2: I figured out why why Uncle Rica had told her, oh,
Speaker 2: he's got some problems.
Speaker 1: He wets his pantsy, she feels sorry, so you're going
Speaker 1: with him?
Speaker 2: And then like she's probably she knows she's doing him
Speaker 2: a favor, but not in Napoleon's mind.
Speaker 3: He's a lot of the stuff that they put in
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 6: Do you think, like you know, those little nuances, do
Speaker 6: you think that they were purposely put in there?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: I think there's always happy accidents that you stumble upon. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think this is a really well thought out,
Speaker 2: you know, and the costume design. You think of costume design,
Speaker 2: you think of the big period pieces, but there's costume
Speaker 2: design going on here that is so the moon boots,
Speaker 2: those little touches, the CLO's car, there was one he
Speaker 2: wore that they were intentional. All that stuff was intentional
Speaker 2: because you've got to think a certain way to be
Speaker 2: able to put that together. You know that they're not
Speaker 2: they're not a series of accidents. No, no, and Rex
Speaker 2: is you know with the America pantsy and Rex Kondo
Speaker 2: American Oh yeah, stripes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was the one one top that Enrico was
Speaker 6: it Rico was wearing at the shop and it looked
Speaker 6: like I had that.
Speaker 1: Little bomb with the orange.
Speaker 3: Orange lines in the front. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, had a
Speaker 3: couple of those ripper great great costumes.
Speaker 2: And then keep coming of changes his style when he
Speaker 2: comes out and he's kind of you know, he.
Speaker 6: Put the chain on the chain, docrination into the culture,
Speaker 6: do rag a rag on his head.
Speaker 3: He's all gangster now and he starts, he leaves town,
Speaker 3: he lives.
Speaker 1: He leaves.
Speaker 2: And what's nice about that is that when Napoleon sees him,
Speaker 2: he actually smileds like very he smiles very It's very subtle,
Speaker 2: but he smiles, and he's actually happy to see his brother.
Speaker 3: You know, he's happy.
Speaker 2: He's brother happy. Yeah, yeah, so I love that. And
Speaker 2: so Napoleon has the win with the with the dance,
Speaker 2: which is just awesome. Kip has the win. Rico even
Speaker 2: has Rica becomes president, he has Pedro Pedro, Pedro Pedro
Speaker 2: has the win. I love the idea that cousins like
Speaker 2: they get back to the cousins offering protection.
Speaker 1: Let's see where shruck up in the car is again
Speaker 1: it's silly, you know, and.
Speaker 6: He pulls out his the kid pulls out that thing
Speaker 6: that Napoleon gave him the friendship it worked, ye protect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And even uncle Uncle Rica has the win
Speaker 2: like he's just in the middle of nowhere with his
Speaker 2: broken arm.
Speaker 1: And then then this girl, So was that ant?
Speaker 3: Was that an ex love interest that I might have missed?
Speaker 7: Rand I thought it might have been that girl's mum
Speaker 7: and they took to the prompt.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not.
Speaker 7: I hadn't seen her. I hadn't seen it before. I
Speaker 7: just assumed that she must have been that woman.
Speaker 3: It was just an untold thing that he got, you know,
Speaker 3: he got a girl in whatever.
Speaker 6: You know, was always talking about soul mate, soul mate,
Speaker 6: soul mad even goes find your soul mat make sure
Speaker 6: you find your soul mate.
Speaker 3: So maybe that's.
Speaker 1: That's that's the talk about the hot tub and the
Speaker 1: soul mate.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then when when I was sitting down, he was
Speaker 6: he was having those those onion rings. But do you
Speaker 6: know when he ate the onion ring and he had
Speaker 6: he dipped in some sauce and then he went to
Speaker 6: eat it, and a piece of sauce fur on his
Speaker 6: arm and then he looked around and why that that
Speaker 6: couldn't have been that couldn't have been scripted, but he
Speaker 6: just played that's that. That's he just played on with that,
Speaker 6: and I was I was like, let it, let it go. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and that's when you start talking about soul mates again
Speaker 6: with the brother what's the brothers called name again?
Speaker 3: Kip?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's so good. I got some fun facts
Speaker 2: to run through you before we finish up. Some we've
Speaker 2: already discussed. But this was shut in twenty two days.
Speaker 2: I'm a budget about forty thousand, so you guys.
Speaker 3: It was four hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: I was sorry, four hundred thou right, sorry, four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand forty.
Speaker 3: I was gonna correct itim, but I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to embarrass it.
Speaker 1: Fucking Joe had no problem.
Speaker 3: No, it was sincere. I thought it was four hundred.
Speaker 1: It was a little bit off. Did a very good
Speaker 1: job of correcting, correcting me, but in a very nice way.
Speaker 1: It was well done.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so but still four hundred grand and for
Speaker 3: what it made.
Speaker 2: For what I made, and I imagine it's still making money,
Speaker 2: so it's probably over potentially have a fifty million now
Speaker 2: shooting twenty two days. John Heath was twenty six at
Speaker 2: the time, Pedro was thirty one. The Alarmer belongs to
Speaker 2: the director's mum.
Speaker 1: This is our indie.
Speaker 2: The film making was that the lama even was Jared's mum.
Speaker 2: Every dish you see in the opening credits is eaten
Speaker 2: by that character throughout the movie. Yeah, using eaten, So say,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure this one matches up necessarily, but say
Speaker 2: it was like nachos for Kip. He was, you know,
Speaker 2: on the phone making he's making anarchose. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if that's a specific example, but basically, the eggs the
Speaker 2: tots were one yes, yes, So there you go.
Speaker 1: Fact.
Speaker 2: And then in the opening sequence you see different hands
Speaker 2: coming in and because once I think Sony in them
Speaker 2: TV came on board. They got they didn't like the
Speaker 2: hands that were coming in. This is where like these
Speaker 2: guys have made an independent film. Let them have whatever
Speaker 2: hand to go and nobody's caring about the hands. But
Speaker 2: they got hand models to come in and do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so the dance.
Speaker 2: There's conflictive reports about this that there's that they ran
Speaker 2: out of film when the dance sequence was happening.
Speaker 6: I heard that he had ten minutes left and that
Speaker 6: was the last bit of film and they're like, we're
Speaker 6: going to get this so roll.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: John Heathen doesn't remember it being like that, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, maybe he wasn't aware that. I think
Speaker 2: Jared has says that they ran out of film and
Speaker 2: they had ten minutes to choose from. For ye ten
Speaker 2: minutes of the dance to choose from. I mentioned Jack
Speaker 2: Black almost played Rex in Nacho Libre, which is really.
Speaker 1: A really fun film.
Speaker 2: And there is there's an extra scene which you guys
Speaker 2: may not have seen because I noticed I watched it
Speaker 2: on stand. I'm not sure if you guys watched it
Speaker 2: on stand. There's no there's a closing credit sequence. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have a little bit of listened to it's basically
Speaker 2: the wedding. Didn't watch it, it's the wedding waited as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not on there.
Speaker 2: So so you this is a wedding of Kip and
Speaker 2: la Fonda, and on one side there's like, you know,
Speaker 2: the Grandma and Ikrica and deb and Napolic is not
Speaker 2: there yet he arrives soon. On the other side is
Speaker 2: all Lafonda's family in real life. They rang up the
Speaker 2: actors who played Lafonda and said, you know what mean
Speaker 2: you you were out here in Idaho playing Lafonda. Did
Speaker 2: you realize you notice there's no black people in town
Speaker 2: at all? And she says, yeah, I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2: Do you mind bringing your family out so they can
Speaker 2: actually be your family in the wedding? So the family
Speaker 2: you see are actually her family. So and then so
Speaker 2: what happens is we're going to have a little listen
Speaker 2: to a song that Kip sings to his girlfriend Lafonda,
Speaker 2: who's met on the on the chat rooms, and then
Speaker 2: you'll hear some music play. You'll hear a horse and
Speaker 2: you'll if you can imagine Napoleon Dynamite riding in on
Speaker 2: a horse to some music to all Aussies, you should recognize. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's start hip and he's beautiful serenading. There's new bride Lefonda.
Speaker 1: Why do you love me? Why do you need me?
Speaker 10: Always?
Speaker 4: Sam?
Speaker 3: Forever?
Speaker 10: You met in a child room. No love Confolly bloom
Speaker 10: Sure a world wide webon's great? D you make me
Speaker 10: self of it? Yes, I love technology, but not as
Speaker 10: much as you, you see, but I still love technology always,
Speaker 10: Sam Forever. Our love is like a flock of doves
Speaker 10: fly not to have them above Always Sam, Forever, always Sam. Yes,
Speaker 10: I love the true Why do you need me?
Speaker 2: Why do you love me? So he just rides it
Speaker 2: on a horse, and he rides it on the horse,
Speaker 2: and you recognize their music. I mean, if you haven't
Speaker 2: seen a movie, you won't recognize that this is a
Speaker 2: snow man.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be Daryl Breathway Horses.
Speaker 2: They probably can't afford us. They spend all their money
Speaker 2: on Jimiroquid. They couldn't afford that.
Speaker 3: That's how why they put that in.
Speaker 1: So that was a.
Speaker 2: Sequence that when the money kind of came in from
Speaker 2: the studios, they added that later on. So they got
Speaker 2: everybody back, and that I think costs as like that
Speaker 2: scene costs more than the the movie. No, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so so I'm not sure that's that's I imagine that
Speaker 2: doesn't include in that forty four hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: It might, it might, I'm not sure about it.
Speaker 7: That hold on, So they spent another additional four hundred
Speaker 7: thousand plus dollars film in this, and then I didn't
Speaker 7: even put it in.
Speaker 1: They didn't put it in the movie.
Speaker 2: And it's not even like I said, you watched it
Speaker 2: stand last night. I watched it on stand and I
Speaker 2: didn't see it. It's the first time I've seen this movie.
Speaker 2: Where did you have a dozen times?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I saw it online online. I was just looking around
Speaker 2: for this and then I saw this car closing credit sequence.
Speaker 3: Look it up.
Speaker 1: I'll give it a go.
Speaker 3: Go look it up.
Speaker 7: The microphone thing was hilarious. Microphone in between singing noise, Yeah,
Speaker 7: little but little.
Speaker 3: I like the music in the background.
Speaker 7: It's like one of those harmonica playing in the back.
Speaker 1: And now do you know when the microphone.
Speaker 2: Doesn't yea yeah, gentlemen, Sushi Mango, this podcast comes with homework.
Speaker 1: It's not just about rocking up.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you very much, so you are as busy
Speaker 2: as anyone At the moment you're off the boat. Tour
Speaker 2: is absolutely going gang busses And like I said in
Speaker 2: the int nobody has sold more tickets than Sinshi Mango
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: You must be loving it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to be back out there and in
Speaker 3: front of people again.
Speaker 2: Because there's a chance though when COVID came, like you
Speaker 2: guys had this tour, I can plan and there must
Speaker 2: have been you must have been more than almost anyone
Speaker 2: going what the fuck does this mean?
Speaker 6: It was two or three times and it happened to
Speaker 6: It happened to a lot of people. But it seems
Speaker 6: like we're on the steady now. Everyone the whole industry
Speaker 6: is back.
Speaker 1: And there was a.
Speaker 6: Testament to the crew and Dainty and everyone involves with
Speaker 6: all the venues and everything in the start of the
Speaker 6: year from January to May, when no one was doing
Speaker 6: pretty much anything, we were still able to pack all
Speaker 6: these people.
Speaker 7: Logistics of getting getting stuff around because we've got an
Speaker 7: a big arigan to be riging to take all the cancelations.
Speaker 7: But the tech dainty group aculate.
Speaker 1: And remaining it together.
Speaker 7: It shouldn't it probably shouldn't have gone ahead, but somehow
Speaker 7: these guys have managed to when I say shouldn't. It
Speaker 7: was so comp complex that how it came together.
Speaker 6: And also the all the arenas for helping jug every well,
Speaker 6: when I say all the arena, just rod labor and kudos.
Speaker 6: But then you know, the La Entertainment Center and all
Speaker 6: those places just just to be accommodating to move things.
Speaker 3: Around, and they did it so seamlessly.
Speaker 6: And then thank god for all the people that you
Speaker 6: know that got brought tickets and then got stuffed around.
Speaker 3: Had to rejug the dates and perth was just crazy.
Speaker 6: But you know, we had to completely change venue within
Speaker 6: a week, right because everything got cut down the fifty percent.
Speaker 6: We had to move everyone across and you know.
Speaker 7: And those poor people initially got told that they were
Speaker 7: so we're at the Riviera was it at the river?
Speaker 7: The riversides here there, and so those people got got
Speaker 7: an email and they've been told that the shows are
Speaker 7: being split into fifty percent capacity. And then a couple
Speaker 7: of days later that went down again, so we had
Speaker 7: to relocate them to another venue. Altogether, it was really difficult,
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. It's very complex and but we
Speaker 7: got through it.
Speaker 3: So this run that we're doing now, it's beautiful because it.
Speaker 1: Was good. It's like running naked again.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 6: And then when one day hear the laughter proper, people
Speaker 6: who want to wear masks, they want to want to
Speaker 6: wear masks.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not required anywhere anymore, but you know
Speaker 3: if people want to.
Speaker 7: But you know what I mean, people, when you're on
Speaker 7: stage and everyone in the audience has got a mask on,
Speaker 7: it changes the dynamic.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's certainly nicer, and it's not what comedy
Speaker 2: was supposed to be about to play. You know, thirty
Speaker 2: percent you know, capacity is mask and all that. So
Speaker 2: everyone was amazing to do and give the tip of
Speaker 2: the habit the cruise they are and we lost a
Speaker 2: lot of crew level we had to go to constructions,
Speaker 2: y you, but hopefully a lot of going to come back.
Speaker 1: But they are amazing.
Speaker 2: So whenever you go to any show, whether it's something
Speaker 2: the size of since You Mango or something at your
Speaker 2: local comedy room, you know there are crews working.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so many jobs. Will let our crew at least
Speaker 3: eat at least once a day.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, that's very generous, it is, And we're not
Speaker 1: not with not with you guys, not with us. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's going to ride them with the same kind of
Speaker 1: water that you provided us. That kind of great.
Speaker 3: And every now and then a steak out of the
Speaker 3: freezer with the water water.
Speaker 1: And I do as I want to say.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this in intro, but you know, when everybody
Speaker 2: needed to laugh during lockdown, you guys were putting out
Speaker 2: so much content and it was just fucking hilarious.
Speaker 10: It was that.
Speaker 1: I thought the tone was perfect.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely you know, reflecting the frustrations and the
Speaker 2: angers and that the weirdness of the situation without necessarily
Speaker 2: kind of calling for anarchy, you know, in a way.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was a really important and really
Speaker 2: nice tone.
Speaker 1: Laugh a lot. You know what.
Speaker 6: I think the world needs to get back to a
Speaker 6: place where everyone can have a difference of opinion and
Speaker 6: still be united.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy that you know, it's crazy that people
Speaker 3: are divided over over certain things. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: we we can all agree or you know, you go
Speaker 3: for Colin, would we.
Speaker 1: Go for Melbourne.
Speaker 7: But it'd be nice to return to a time where
Speaker 7: we can respectfully take the piss out of each other.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think online what it's made us do
Speaker 2: is think you have to pick a side like but
Speaker 2: we don't live our lives like that. We're all mates
Speaker 2: and we were, Like I said, football is one thing.
Speaker 2: We might even have different opinions and other things, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure we do. Whether it's films or even politics,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's okay. Imagine imagine cultivating your
Speaker 2: friendship group about people who had this exact same opinions.
Speaker 1: That's just that's happening.
Speaker 6: It's happening, and it's and and and what we want
Speaker 6: to we want to fight against it. We want to
Speaker 6: get back to the days. It's like you, it doesn't
Speaker 6: matter what religion, what politics we were, we were, if
Speaker 6: you like, if you like, whatever you like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: We can all still coexist. And I think what we
Speaker 6: went through changed that a bit, you know, and maybe
Speaker 6: as time goes on, it'll it'll it'll soften a little bit.
Speaker 3: And hope.
Speaker 6: So it's funny, Carl, right, because we've been brought up
Speaker 6: to our dad would always say, never discuss religion or
Speaker 6: politics because it always ends up in a fight. And
Speaker 6: then my dad was saying this, so and now it's out,
Speaker 6: everyone's discussing. It's in front of everyone's face, and it's
Speaker 6: causing a fight, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's crazy. But now thanks, but thanks.
Speaker 6: It's nice to hear that coming from you make being
Speaker 6: an industry for a long time said when you came
Speaker 6: on our podcast. We've always looked up to you, loved
Speaker 6: your stuff, loved your humor.
Speaker 3: You always lead with humor ever since back in the day.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a pleasure to be a mate
Speaker 3: with you. And people come up to us.
Speaker 6: A lot and say thanks for getting us through Lockdown,
Speaker 6: But I always say thank you for getting us through
Speaker 6: Lockdown because the more that they watched, the more we
Speaker 6: put out. And it was a two way street, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So we were happy to do it,
Speaker 6: but it was also giving us something to do, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the other before we let you go
Speaker 1: wog Boy wog Boy three Boys three. Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: official title.
Speaker 3: Wog Boys Forever, but it's definitely Wog Boys three.
Speaker 6: He's coming out, you know, Steve the character which is
Speaker 6: Nick Jnoppus's character. It's a great, great character he's playing
Speaker 6: this time. He's bring it back to old school. He's
Speaker 6: back in Melbourne. The a few of the old characters
Speaker 6: are back and there's a couple of new characters in.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of characters. Yeah, and very well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done a great job.
Speaker 7: Has done a nice job the director there, and it's
Speaker 7: shot in a particular anger. It kind of has a
Speaker 7: kind of the first one.
Speaker 6: Again, so it's not quite as low budget as Apology,
Speaker 6: But you know what, I love what you did.
Speaker 3: Once Nick came on.
Speaker 6: Nick came on the project, I was going to mention yeah,
Speaker 6: and then and then and they were talking about the
Speaker 6: word wog and who can say it? And I'm always
Speaker 6: were I think we me and the boys agree that,
Speaker 6: you know, if you say wog, it's fine.
Speaker 3: Anyone can say it, you know, and.
Speaker 6: You know obviously the way it's said intention so and
Speaker 6: I think that night Nick was on the show and
Speaker 6: and you said, no, you can't.
Speaker 3: He said, well you can't say it, and you can't
Speaker 3: say it. And then then the name of the show
Speaker 3: was called that were you said at work and we
Speaker 3: were just like that was you said, where everyone go
Speaker 3: and see at work? We're hysterics.
Speaker 1: And now I'm still here I didn't get canceled.
Speaker 6: So but like we said, like we've always said, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's obviously the way it's said, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, and hell, what's what's coming behind it?
Speaker 3: But look, man, we're very excited for the movie.
Speaker 6: Our first was great to see how it all he's
Speaker 6: put together, and and the crew of the team in
Speaker 6: it too with vis Colossimo. Sarah Roberts is in it too,
Speaker 6: and obviously Nick at the helmet, and there's some more great, great,
Speaker 6: great cast, and it's gonna do really well.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Check it out in cinemas in a couple of.
Speaker 3: Weeks, actually, sixth of October it comes out.
Speaker 1: Bang, there you go. We'll come into a podcast on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: We'll actually we won't watch it first watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get me on the WhatsApp group. Guys, we got it.
Speaker 1: We gotta go. Andrew's got a rex Kwondo.
Speaker 3: Session to get to.
Speaker 1: Running a sorry getting he's getting twitchy. All right, thanks, legends,
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 10: Why do you love me? Why do you need me? Forever?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm waving my iPhone with the torch on always
Speaker 2: and forever, always and forever.
Speaker 1: Beautiful stuff, Kip, that was so much fun.
Speaker 2: That was a historic episode of You Ain't Seen Nothing
Speaker 2: Yet with the three greats from Sushi Mango. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much to Carl and Joe and Andrew for coming
Speaker 2: in and doing their homework, and it was so much fun.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that. There may have to be more
Speaker 2: episodes with more people involved. It's just a fun vibe.
Speaker 2: And if they if they get back to me, if
Speaker 2: they end up do watching the movie again and have
Speaker 2: different thoughts, hopefully they share them with me and I'll
Speaker 2: pass them on. But lots of fun cheating back to
Speaker 2: Napoleon Dynamite, and I love the film. I love the film,
Speaker 2: and it was lovely here them enjoying it. But also
Speaker 2: I get a feeling when they watch it again, they're
Speaker 2: going to enjoy it even more. And I think even
Speaker 2: Andrew might even enjoy it more the second time. Derek
Speaker 2: Myers from Castaways Studios dot com dot au, he's obviously
Speaker 2: on the buttons and Derek, you've seen Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, there's a lot of hype when it came out,
Speaker 9: like yeah, yeah, it's my crew anyway, like it was
Speaker 9: like you've got to see.
Speaker 2: This, Derek, Yeah, it was it was not hype obviously
Speaker 2: like a you know, a Marvel film or anything, but
Speaker 2: it would there was. It was buzz this kind of
Speaker 2: unique little indie comedy that has come out, and if
Speaker 2: you watch the trailer you could kind of see that
Speaker 2: it was. It's very quotable and these these idiosyncratic characters,
Speaker 2: Like I said it was a big hit I think
Speaker 2: at Sundance and said it was buzz.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I enjoyed it even more last night. I
Speaker 9: sat down and watched it and it was great to
Speaker 9: have the boys from Sushi Mango just pick out those
Speaker 9: little detail that I also normally don't see details in
Speaker 9: a film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but just just the way he just landed well,
Speaker 3: climbing over the fence. Just little things like that.
Speaker 2: But I mentioned a lot of them, and it was
Speaker 2: funny because when I was chatting to them and I
Speaker 2: could see that obviously Andrew was maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: more lukewarm, and John Carlow we had a bit more enthusiasm.
Speaker 2: But they all said it took him a while to
Speaker 2: get into it. But then they were like they were
Speaker 2: reciting all these and remembering all these little moments in
Speaker 2: the film that even to the point where Andrew remembered
Speaker 2: that he didn't actually really puts the gatoray back one
Speaker 2: the aggressive nature of Harry drinks it, but then he
Speaker 2: puts it back with that putting the lid on, like
Speaker 2: these little details all through this film. So I think
Speaker 2: when they watch it again, if people are listening to
Speaker 2: you know, give it a second go. There's so many
Speaker 2: details that you pick up. And I watch it every
Speaker 2: few years. I watch it with my kids dream Lockdown,
Speaker 2: and they loved it. This thing is it's just really funny.
Speaker 2: It's really funny, it's got sweetness, it's got it's got
Speaker 2: a good heart. Like I said at the end, it's
Speaker 2: the winds appropriately sized, I think. And also I think
Speaker 2: we spoke to Alex Eedelman, if you remember Derek, when
Speaker 2: we spoke about Thelma and Luise, and he made the
Speaker 2: point that every American film has to in some way
Speaker 2: be about America. And I was thinking about that when
Speaker 2: I was watching this, thinking, yeah, I do think this
Speaker 2: film is about America like it is. These are about
Speaker 2: almost the forgotten people in the way, and this is
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and four. You know, we don't
Speaker 2: see movies about people like this, and I think these
Speaker 2: people basically living in the middle of nowhere, yet they
Speaker 2: still believe in the American dream, you know, particularly Uncle Rico.
Speaker 1: He believes that, you know, he can still get back.
Speaker 1: You can get it.
Speaker 2: If it's get his hands on the time machine, he
Speaker 2: can get back and become that quarterback, you know. And
Speaker 2: they all they're all dreaming, they're all dreaming, and they're
Speaker 2: all wanting to find their soulmate.
Speaker 1: And they do, they do. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: wonderful film.
Speaker 2: Now, Derek, how can people get involved with the podcast
Speaker 2: and how can people you know, like support it?
Speaker 1: And what are the various ways I can do that?
Speaker 9: Well, three quick things come to mind. Email has been great.
Speaker 9: We've got a lot of email feedback which is terrific.
Speaker 9: There's the iTunes reviews is great, We have a look
Speaker 9: at those.
Speaker 3: There's tons of those. What do we recommend?
Speaker 2: Yeah, five star reviews would actually really help with the
Speaker 2: algorithms and keep us in the conversation and people on
Speaker 2: iTunes that we exist.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it is a nice way to get some
Speaker 9: feedback in there in the review. And of course there's
Speaker 9: the speak pipe, which is the there's a link in
Speaker 9: the show notes the notes there, so you can hit
Speaker 9: that and jump on and it's just like writing an email,
Speaker 9: but just with your voice. You get to use your
Speaker 9: own voice and you can get on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love to hear your voices, so get onto that.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, we do have some electronic responses, I believe, all.
Speaker 9: Right, So here's I've got an email here from a
Speaker 9: while back from Mark you Mark, Hi, Pete, big fan.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Have seen you do stand up in bris Vegas and
Speaker 9: loved it.
Speaker 1: I always loved doing stand up in bres Vegas.
Speaker 9: Also really enjoy the podcast. However, just an observation, you
Speaker 9: seem to be offended and get quite defensive if your
Speaker 9: guest does not love the movie, especially if it is
Speaker 9: one of your favorite movies.
Speaker 1: I know what's coming.
Speaker 9: My best example was when Hamish McDonald watched Punch Drunk Love.
Speaker 9: He clearly did not enjoy the movie. However, you then
Speaker 9: seem to be constantly telling us and him why it
Speaker 9: is a good movie. On the rare occasion when Hamish
Speaker 9: was able to explain what he didn't like about it,
Speaker 9: you would always respond with, but it almost sounds like
Speaker 9: it is a movie that you made and a defending
Speaker 9: or if somebody has criticized one of your children.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure I was that full on.
Speaker 1: If you go, one of my kids will come harder
Speaker 1: than I did. Hamish McDonald, I can. I can guarantee you.
Speaker 9: That would love to see a guest discuss Sure Shake Redemption,
Speaker 9: which surely is on your list. However, maybe everybody has
Speaker 9: seen it, regards Mark.
Speaker 1: That is a good point.
Speaker 2: Thank you Mark for your email, and that yes, Sure
Speaker 2: Shaking Redemption definitely on the list. And like pulp fiction,
Speaker 2: which is you know, the Tarantina films, which have been
Speaker 2: requested multiple times, it's just a matter of finding somebody
Speaker 2: who hasn't seen it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, on the list. I'm sure we'll get to
Speaker 1: it at some point.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that we've had a lot of feedback both
Speaker 2: anecdotally personally about that Punch Strunk Love episode with Hamish McDonald.
Speaker 2: Most of it actually has been really positive and thank
Speaker 2: you Mark ought to say for and I love the
Speaker 2: community we are cultivating here, very respectful. If they've got
Speaker 2: something it's about a guest of mine or something that's
Speaker 2: happened on the show, or somebody've disagreed with, they've been
Speaker 2: completely respectful about it. And I really appreciate that in
Speaker 2: a world where sometimes if you're speaking publicly, whether it's
Speaker 2: on TV or on a podcast or live, if you
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't even know that you tripped up. And
Speaker 2: if you can offend, you can offend so many people
Speaker 2: a thousand different ways. And so to have the audience
Speaker 2: the Yasni community been so respectful, I love it and
Speaker 2: it inspires me to keep this going for as long
Speaker 2: as I can.
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say that, of course if somebody
Speaker 2: doesn't like the movie and hopefully goes without saying, everyone
Speaker 2: I have on the show is a mate.
Speaker 1: I don't like.
Speaker 2: I don't have anyone. There's a publicity machine behind Yasney
Speaker 2: inviting guests on, like we're not trying to. I mean,
Speaker 2: that might happen down the track. I'm not saying if
Speaker 2: somebody was to pitch somebody who I was interested in,
Speaker 2: but we wouldn't have him on. But at this point,
Speaker 2: everyone I have on the show is a friend. And
Speaker 2: you know, a good friend, somebody I admire, somebody have
Speaker 2: a close relationship with Hamish I've known for years and
Speaker 2: we are great mates. What you heard is probably somebody
Speaker 2: like me having a debate with a mate, And I mean,
Speaker 2: I could just let Hamish say that he didn't like
Speaker 2: the movie, and I respect that he didn't like it,
Speaker 2: obviously nowhere near as much as I did. But to
Speaker 2: make a podcast interesting, it needs to be a discussion,
Speaker 2: I think, and that discussion, I mean I cannot just
Speaker 2: not respond to him not liking the film. And you
Speaker 2: absolutely right, Mark in that it is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite films. In fact, I think it's probably my top
Speaker 2: five films. I actually think it's a perfect film for
Speaker 2: what poor Thomas Anderson was trying to achieve. That doesn't
Speaker 2: mean everyone's going to like it. I completely understand that,
Speaker 2: I admit, and me and Haimy should discussed it since
Speaker 2: I was surprised his reaction to and not liking and
Speaker 2: not appreciating the anger issues that Barry Egan had in
Speaker 2: that movie. It surprised me on the deck because I
Speaker 2: didn't discussed before the podcast what he thought of the film,
Speaker 2: so I was dealing with that in that moment. I've
Speaker 2: never heard anyone discuss it, like having seen Barry is
Speaker 2: dislikable because of his anger issues. I think his anger
Speaker 2: issues are explained in like we understand the reasons for them.
Speaker 2: I think they're quite sympathetic reasons, so that was surprising
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it more fun to hear people disagree about a film,
Speaker 2: or is it you know we're both on the same team,
Speaker 2: you know, the same side, we like the same things.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd love that episode. I really loved.
Speaker 1: I loved Hamish's stories about his three favorite films. But
Speaker 1: I loved having at debate and you know, me being challenged.
Speaker 1: And I think we're living in a world at the moment,
Speaker 1: like we discussed with the Sushi Mango Boys only minutes ago,
Speaker 1: we it's okay to disagree, and I certainly would hope
Speaker 1: it didn't come across that I was trying to silence
Speaker 1: Hamish on his thing. I was just responding to his
Speaker 1: because I've got a different point of view, and that's
Speaker 1: what debate in the discussion is. Like Hamy said he
Speaker 1: might go watch it again. He may not.
Speaker 2: I probably suspected he might know. I got more faith
Speaker 2: in sincey man go watching Napoleon Dynamite again than I
Speaker 2: do Hamis's watching Puns Strong Love again. But as somebody
Speaker 2: pointed out to me, that's part of the beauty of
Speaker 2: films and like that you that I saw something in
Speaker 2: this film that Hamish didn't see, and that's what makes
Speaker 2: it more precious in a way for me, and Hamish
Speaker 2: might see something in one of like maybe head On,
Speaker 2: that I didn't quite see, and that's what While we
Speaker 2: should wrap our arms around the films that we love
Speaker 2: and not necessarily think that everyone needs to love them,
Speaker 2: but just to go, well, this means something to me
Speaker 2: and that is enough. Now, Obviously, when you're doing a
Speaker 2: podcast about it film, you want to you know, fill
Speaker 2: out the time by having putting your points across and
Speaker 2: why you love the film.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was trying to do with Hamish.
Speaker 2: But I do appreciate you your email mark and like
Speaker 2: I said, a respectful way that you put that across.
Speaker 1: And we will have Suwshank Redemption, I'm sure one day.
Speaker 9: While we're on the topic of punch drunk Love, there's a.
Speaker 1: We found another one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a review here, just the top review here.
Speaker 9: It says from NOE seventy eight. I love every episode
Speaker 9: of this podcast, but this episode was my favorite so far.
Speaker 1: Oh thank god.
Speaker 3: Redemption.
Speaker 9: What is more entertaining than both Pete and his guest
Speaker 9: loving a movie is these episodes when guests don't share
Speaker 9: Pete's enthusiasm. I loved Pete's attempts to alter Hamish's view
Speaker 9: of Punch Drunk Love and attempting from every angle to
Speaker 9: represent this movie in a more endearing light for Hamish.
Speaker 2: There you go, well, there you go, And to be honest,
Speaker 2: we have received a lot of feedback about that, and
Speaker 2: most of them have been really positive. And Mark I
Speaker 2: said Mark's was I still see it as a positive.
Speaker 2: It's a reaction, and if you're having a reaction to
Speaker 2: a discussion that he's fantastic. We don't want to We
Speaker 2: don't want to make anyone angry, and I don't markedn't
Speaker 2: sound angry about it. It is just making a point.
Speaker 2: So I certainly do appreciate that email and reaction. I'm
Speaker 2: going to defend the films I love, but it's you know,
Speaker 2: I certainly don't never want it to be like any
Speaker 2: kind of debate that I'm being either aggressive with those points.
Speaker 2: But it's hopefully this comes across as passion because I'm
Speaker 2: passionate about movies. I wouldn't be doing this podcast if
Speaker 2: I wasn't next week on the show, we have a
Speaker 2: returning guest from last season. He is an actor, largely
Speaker 2: a comedic actor, but that's not all. If he's also
Speaker 2: a writer. He's a man who's had a lot of
Speaker 2: passion for the craft, and that's Jackson. Toza had a
Speaker 2: great reaction to his episode of The Determinator in season four,
Speaker 2: so he's back. When people take on a franchise, we
Speaker 2: invite them back to complete, not necessarily the entire franchise,
Speaker 2: but at least the next classic film in that franchise,
Speaker 2: which is of course T two Terminated, Toudgement Day, Arnoles, Schwarzschnegger,
Speaker 2: Linda Hamilton, Edward Furlong in his film debut, James Cameron
Speaker 2: at the Helm again.
Speaker 1: Is it better than Terminator? The original film?
Speaker 2: Is it in that bracket of Empire strikes back in
Speaker 2: The Godfather Part two?
Speaker 1: I think it is? Will Jackson agree, terminated too, Judgment
Speaker 1: Day next week, and you ain't seen nothing yet until then?
Speaker 1: By for now, and so we
Speaker 2: Leave old Pete save Van Soul, and to our friends
Speaker 2: of the radio audience, we've been a pleasant good name.