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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, It's a pickup with Brett Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2: Hey, Laura, I didn't think I'd be saying this, but
Speaker 2: I've got a new hobby.
Speaker 3: I have a new sport.
Speaker 2: I'm an athlete now that I have absolutely fallen in
Speaker 2: love with, and I just feel like everybody needs to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: Paddle ball paddle tennis.
Speaker 1: Oh, I knew it was gonna be something like that
Speaker 1: was I don't know, it's paddle ball a thing.
Speaker 4: It was actually a guess I was gonna say that
Speaker 4: all table tennis or something that's.
Speaker 3: Not table tennis. You're adult tennis. It is, guys, if
Speaker 3: you haven't tried it, it's so fun. It's like the
Speaker 3: funnest what I might have ever played.
Speaker 4: What's the difference between paddle tennis and just tennis? Tennis.
Speaker 3: I was hoping you'd ask.
Speaker 2: That it's this kind of sport that anyone can play.
Speaker 2: So I got into it with my sister when she
Speaker 2: was heavily pregnant. She could even play it heavily pregnant
Speaker 2: because it's not it's like a tiny, mini condensed version
Speaker 2: of tennis.
Speaker 3: So the courts are really small.
Speaker 1: You're not running around, you don't run. It sounds like
Speaker 1: my idea of tennis.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you still run, but you don't have to
Speaker 2: run as much because the idea is it's in a
Speaker 2: glass box.
Speaker 4: So the ball.
Speaker 2: If you miss the ball, fine because it bounces off
Speaker 2: a glass wall, and then you keep playing.
Speaker 3: It's like playing rebound.
Speaker 1: If this sounds like when everyone got into squash for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: There, it's squashed on steroids.
Speaker 4: It's so good. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm going to try it at this
Speaker 1: point in my pregnancy, but I'm thrilled for you.
Speaker 2: Let me take you to play one day. Once the
Speaker 2: baby's out. You're back on your feet because it's you'll
Speaker 2: have so much fun. And producer Grace, you know what
Speaker 2: you're coming to with that face.
Speaker 1: No, take me out for a boozy lunch, take out,
Speaker 1: a day's spar Anyway, I don't want to complain.
Speaker 3: Look on that pelvic floor. We're going to do sport.
Speaker 1: Being that it's Thursday, we do ask and Cut every Thursday,
Speaker 1: and that's where you call up with your biggest, deepest,
Speaker 1: darkest problems and we do our best to answer them.
Speaker 1: And now, what would you do, Britt if you discovered
Speaker 1: that you weren't actually your partner's type? Because that is
Speaker 1: today's conundrum. Nina, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hi, how are you am?
Speaker 4: I doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 5: Would be like weird?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Nina?
Speaker 5: Well, I've been with my partner for like almost a year,
Speaker 5: so eleven months, and only recently have we like you know,
Speaker 5: really like gone through like our exes or like sometimes
Speaker 5: they're like peekover when he's like on his like Instagram
Speaker 5: or whatever. And I've realized that like all of his
Speaker 5: exes and like people on the feet are like tiger
Speaker 5: like blonde girls or like very specific look and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm nothing for the thought. I'm curly hair, brunette, a
Speaker 5: bit taller, a bit bigger, and i just I'm like,
Speaker 5: may not this man's type. Like I don't, I feel
Speaker 5: like really insecure and read about it.
Speaker 2: Nina, I'm just gonna stop you in your tracks right here.
Speaker 2: This is an easy one for me. You've just got
Speaker 2: to think, You've just got to think he's with you,
Speaker 2: like they didn't work out, the exes didn't work out.
Speaker 2: You've been with him for a year, Like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean you're not his type? Like he's with you now?
Speaker 2: It's that's saying that you are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. The whole thing is just kind
Speaker 5: of like weeding me out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nina, it sounds like you're your own worst enemy.
Speaker 1: You're doing it to yourself self sabotage.
Speaker 4: But I think that, like it's okay.
Speaker 1: People often have like a type or like a you know,
Speaker 1: they have like an idea of what their type is.
Speaker 1: But then after you've dated multiple people that are your
Speaker 1: type and you realize it never works out that type,
Speaker 1: sometimes your type expands out and you date different people.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, if he's in a relationship
Speaker 1: with you for eleven months and you guys are happy,
Speaker 1: I absolutely would not be self sabotaging your relationship because
Speaker 1: you're worried that you think you're not his type. Even
Speaker 1: though he's done nothing to give you that indication.
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember, I remember dating this guy so long ago.
Speaker 2: Like we were going great, just I was leaving over
Speaker 2: in London and I remember making a mistake of looking
Speaker 2: up his X. I don't know why, and she was
Speaker 2: a literal supermodel, like she was the hottest thing you've
Speaker 2: ever seen.
Speaker 4: And I remember just.
Speaker 2: That just getting in my head, even though he wanted
Speaker 2: to date me, and I just sabotaged the entire relationship.
Speaker 2: I think we can get too caught up in like
Speaker 2: comparison culture and comparing each other.
Speaker 3: And just try to lip in the moment. You guys
Speaker 3: are happy and in love. You've been together for a year, Like,
Speaker 3: don't let someone.
Speaker 2: That he dated seven years ago ruin your relationship now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think I did to think about did.
Speaker 4: You bring it up with him at all?
Speaker 1: Or you've just been keeping this a secret and festering away.
Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't want to bring it up.
Speaker 4: You're like, I don't want to sound crazy. Hey, your
Speaker 4: extra You're Extra.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety nine was so hot that.
Speaker 4: What happened to me?
Speaker 1: Though, Nina, did you ever bring it up with your partner?
Speaker 1: Briant At the time.
Speaker 3: No, I just ended it.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's weird, too, weird, that's weird.
Speaker 3: No, I know that now.
Speaker 4: So I am my husband Matt here.
Speaker 1: He's dated some beautiful girls back in the day, gorgeous girls,
Speaker 1: and one of them is so gorgeous.
Speaker 4: One of them is so gorgeous that she is a
Speaker 4: very successful model, and she.
Speaker 1: Was like the face of an iconic sunscreen brand and
Speaker 1: they'd like double his skincare and everything else. And I
Speaker 1: was using it until like I was bringing it home
Speaker 1: and like having it on the in my bathroom cabetry
Speaker 1: and face. Yeah, and that was like I dated her,
Speaker 1: and she's on the product packaging of the and now
Speaker 1: I can't use it anymore. But I did have a
Speaker 1: moment where I got a bit wigged out because I
Speaker 1: was like, God, your exes are so hot.
Speaker 2: That's a worry, Nina. This one's easier. Just don't stalk
Speaker 2: his exes from ten years ago. Do you embrace your relationship?
Speaker 4: Know your worth?
Speaker 3: No, he's with you for just who you are right now.
Speaker 4: Know your worth.
Speaker 5: It's true.
Speaker 2: If we're going to get deep, all right, strapping, If
Speaker 2: we're going to get deep, it's because of an.
Speaker 3: Insecurity that you might not even know you have.
Speaker 2: Like if you're looking up that and then comparing yourself
Speaker 2: to a next and then you're overthinking it, that's you
Speaker 2: being insecure for whatever reason. But that's why I say, no,
Speaker 2: you're worth like he's choosing you and you guys are happy, So.
Speaker 3: Just live in that moment totally.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 4: No, thanks, Nina, that's tough.
Speaker 2: I think one of the common comments, Laura that I'm
Speaker 2: going to be fielding for quite a long time is
Speaker 2: about my relationship to my new husband Ben and the
Speaker 2: fact that we don't live together and don't live in
Speaker 2: the same country. So I get comments every day in
Speaker 2: my Instagram, like on my pictures, in my dms, Like
Speaker 2: it's a constant thing I'm dealing with.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that when the commentary around
Speaker 1: your relationship feels negative at times?
Speaker 3: Do you know what it used to bother me?
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me now because I know how great
Speaker 2: my relationship is, and so it's like, you know, we're married,
Speaker 2: we're happy.
Speaker 4: It suits us. It doesn't bother me.
Speaker 2: But I want to bring it up because I think
Speaker 2: people don't understand the benefits to a long distance relationship.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you can't. I was gonna say, you
Speaker 4: can't fight.
Speaker 1: You can still fight over the phone, but like it
Speaker 1: would definitely ease some of the stresses of having to
Speaker 1: share a space with someone.
Speaker 2: Well, I live in essential a one bedroom apartment, so
Speaker 2: I can't just like kick him out and have my
Speaker 2: own sleep.
Speaker 1: But what I have.
Speaker 2: Realized now that my husband's been here for a month,
Speaker 2: it's a long time. Usually we're a few weeks at
Speaker 2: a time, or I'm over in his country in Italy.
Speaker 2: I have just realized how much I value sleep when
Speaker 2: I'm on my own, and how much better I sleep.
Speaker 2: We are not compatible in the way we sleep. We
Speaker 2: go to bed at completely different times. He needs different heats,
Speaker 2: he needs to wear different levels of clothes. He has
Speaker 2: to have his sheets out where I have to tuck
Speaker 2: them in.
Speaker 1: He sits maniac psychopath has their sheets tucked in.
Speaker 4: I do you tuck them in under.
Speaker 1: Your mattress and you and you get into a tucked
Speaker 1: in bed.
Speaker 4: Yes, Oh, I'm so constricting.
Speaker 1: I need to like pull everything out and just like
Speaker 1: have it loosely flapping over me in the wind.
Speaker 4: No, that is the worst I can sleep with better
Speaker 4: than you.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, come on.
Speaker 4: Over then, Laura, he's all your.
Speaker 2: You don't tuck your sheeting. But it's called it's a
Speaker 2: fitted sheet.
Speaker 4: I hate it. I hate it. No, the fitted sheet
Speaker 4: obviously tucked and that's on the ballot.
Speaker 3: It's well, I mean it's a top sheet, but it's
Speaker 3: still made to.
Speaker 4: Be tucked in. Awful, horrible.
Speaker 3: Can you google grace if they're made to be touched.
Speaker 4: I feel like somebody's put me in a straight jacket.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the problem we have. Fill me in.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I didn't know this about you.
Speaker 2: If the sheet isn't tucked in, your legs are just
Speaker 2: willing nearly and you're rolling around.
Speaker 3: Don't you get yourself like all tangled.
Speaker 2: I can't get out of bed in the morning because
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, my legs are in a not
Speaker 2: because the sheet's everywhere.
Speaker 4: It's like, I hate it. Nah nah, I'm on Bend's
Speaker 4: side with that one.
Speaker 1: But what else, Like, I mean, Ben's very very tall,
Speaker 1: like that's probably he takes up a lot of bed space.
Speaker 4: Yeah, got a bed.
Speaker 2: Real Estate's six for five. He takes up the entire bed.
Speaker 2: So we have electric blankets that are like.
Speaker 3: Down the middle where one's on and one's off.
Speaker 2: I put mine on heat at the start, and then
Speaker 2: I turn it off just so it's lukewarm.
Speaker 4: He will have his, so it's like I'm in a
Speaker 4: pool of sweat. It is so hot.
Speaker 2: He puts air conditioning on about twenty six degrees like
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm going to pass out.
Speaker 3: He wakes up really late. I wake up really early,
Speaker 3: like people.
Speaker 2: People don't realize how much sleep compatibility is a thing.
Speaker 1: What do you do when you're married and you realize
Speaker 1: that you're not sleep compatible. I think that what ends
Speaker 1: up happening is that someone ends up going and sleeping
Speaker 1: in another room eventually.
Speaker 2: Well, I also think that that's what we probably need
Speaker 2: to normalize. I know so many people that don't sleep
Speaker 2: in the same room as their partner. I don't only
Speaker 2: sleep in the same country as my partner.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 1: I think that people would probably be able to get
Speaker 1: their heads around it more if you were sleeping just
Speaker 1: in separate rooms rather than separate countries.
Speaker 2: I think it's called sleep divorce, where it's like you're
Speaker 2: in love and happy in together, but you just realize
Speaker 2: your life is more beneficial when you're sleeping separately to
Speaker 2: your partner.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of I don't want
Speaker 1: to be like there's a lot of stigma around it,
Speaker 1: because I don't.
Speaker 4: Think anyone's really stigmatizing it.
Speaker 1: But I think that people who don't do it have
Speaker 1: a perception around it that if you choose to sleep
Speaker 1: in a separate bed to your partner, that there must
Speaker 1: be something wrong with the relationship, or it's like the
Speaker 1: death of your intimacy, or all those sorts of things.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think about my grandparent to be fair,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they are very intimate towards their
Speaker 1: old age rest in peace, but they slept in separate
Speaker 1: bedrooms for got like thirty years and.
Speaker 4: They were very happily married.
Speaker 1: I struggle with this one though, because as much as
Speaker 1: I really really love a cuddle and love sleeping in
Speaker 1: the bed next to my husband, I also find him
Speaker 1: really challenging.
Speaker 4: We spoke about a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: He sleeps with his elbows out, like he's trying to
Speaker 1: protect himself from what. I don't know, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I could entertain the idea of sleeping in separate rooms.
Speaker 1: We also don't have any separate rooms because they've.
Speaker 4: All got kids in them or mother in law's or dogs.
Speaker 4: But totally, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it, because yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's fine. Yes, I think it's normal. I
Speaker 1: know so many people do and it doesn't mean the
Speaker 1: death of a relationship. But I would think I would
Speaker 1: struggle with it, so I suffer through.
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever sleep in separate beds when you
Speaker 2: had like Marley and Lola, like your first two kids
Speaker 2: with their little so that one could get more sleep
Speaker 2: or you don't know.
Speaker 1: We played musical beds though, So what would happen is
Speaker 1: like if Marley got into our bed and also Lola
Speaker 1: was in, then Matt would get up and he'd go
Speaker 1: and sleep in one of the kid's beds. So like
Speaker 1: we would just like rotate around the house.
Speaker 3: Yes, so you essentially slept in different beds.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it wasn't that the plan, wasn't that.
Speaker 1: It was only if like the nighttime sleeping went really wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, and no judgment. It
Speaker 1: is a genuine question.
Speaker 4: How do you think you're going to.
Speaker 1: Go when you are one hundred percent in each other's
Speaker 1: company all the time?
Speaker 4: Oh think fine, Okay. I was like trying to say, oh,
Speaker 4: it's give me terrible clear.
Speaker 3: We're so compatible, We're just not sleep. We have different
Speaker 3: ideas of what a good night's sleep is.
Speaker 1: Vin Diesel has caused a little bit of a stir
Speaker 1: recently because he has come out talking about the next
Speaker 1: installment of Fast and the Furious. So there's been ten
Speaker 1: and the last film that was created was a two
Speaker 1: part series, right, so they know that there's a second
Speaker 1: one coming. It's been scheduled for twenty twenty seven. However, recently,
Speaker 1: at a thing called fuel Fest, Vin Diesel came out
Speaker 1: and said there's three conditions of which he will bring
Speaker 1: back Fast and the Furious and do the final installment.
Speaker 4: Now, the main one that people.
Speaker 1: Are up in arms about is that he has said
Speaker 1: that he thinks that Paul Walker should be brought back
Speaker 1: to life by using AI techology and start in the film.
Speaker 1: This has also been I guess approved or it's had like,
Speaker 1: you know, the nod of approval from Paul Walker's estate,
Speaker 1: which is his daughter, and also his brothers.
Speaker 4: Because this fuel Fest car festival.
Speaker 1: Thing is actually run by Paul Walker's brother, so they're
Speaker 1: all kind of you know, okay with it. It really
Speaker 1: does raise the question should we be using AI to
Speaker 1: bring people back from the dead.
Speaker 2: Just to nut that out a little bit, Laura, the
Speaker 2: studios have been begging him to do the final installment.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: He has said he will only do it if Paul
Speaker 2: comes back, so not like he's not hoping for it.
Speaker 2: He is saying may but that's an ultimatum. Yeah, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. But he's a producer as well. Vin Diesel
Speaker 2: like basically owns that franchise. And it's interesting because out
Speaker 2: of all ten of The Fast and the Furious is
Speaker 2: the highest grossing of any film was film number seven,
Speaker 2: which is the film that Paul Walker passed away in.
Speaker 2: So Paul filmed half of that tragically passed away. Then
Speaker 2: they see gid him and used stunt doubles with his
Speaker 2: brothers to finish the film, and then it was sort of.
Speaker 3: Like everyone was moving on.
Speaker 2: So it's a bit of a moral conundrum here about, Okay,
Speaker 2: is it okay then to bring someone back from the
Speaker 2: dead when they don't have any authority over how their
Speaker 2: image is used in what capacity what they're doing in
Speaker 2: a film. They obviously can't benefit from it.
Speaker 4: Is it okay?
Speaker 2: Just because their family, daughter friends said it's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess like also, I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: with AI is it's moved so quickly, and the legislation
Speaker 1: and all the rules around it haven't really caught up
Speaker 1: with how quickly it's moved. I don't think that there's
Speaker 1: been a situation where the family and friends and everyone
Speaker 1: else who's been surrounding like a legacy piece like Fast
Speaker 1: and Furious has said, yeah, you know what, this is
Speaker 1: a great idea, let's bring him back. And it's very
Speaker 1: different to say when they seegid the ending of Fast
Speaker 1: and Furious seven, And the reason for that is is
Speaker 1: because that was to end the show. They had a
Speaker 1: really lovely goodbye. The show ended, Paul went off, and
Speaker 1: he drove his car off into the distance. This would
Speaker 1: be completely manufacturing a new script, all new facial expressions,
Speaker 1: like it would be holding a person from the ground
Speaker 1: up using all archival information but not archival footage, right.
Speaker 1: And I guess for me, the reason why I felt
Speaker 1: so weird when I read this, it's not because I
Speaker 1: don't think that Vin Diesel and Meadow, which is Paul's daughter,
Speaker 1: they'll do the right thing by him. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: have him doing awful things on screen or things that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be necessarily okay with. But it does make
Speaker 1: you question who owns the image of someone once they
Speaker 1: pass away. And we talked about this on Life on
Speaker 1: Cut podcast. But Britt, if you drop dead, would it
Speaker 1: be okay for me to see GI or AI a
Speaker 1: version of you?
Speaker 4: And we can continue to do the pick up because
Speaker 4: they're really inconvenient to replace you.
Speaker 3: Nah, put my face on like Rosy Huntings and Whitley
Speaker 3: or something. Though, like, if you're gonna do it, do
Speaker 3: it well, okay.
Speaker 1: But the other question is so we can say, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't think he's going to be doing anything that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have normally done, does that mean that the
Speaker 1: AI version of Paul Walker can come back in fast
Speaker 1: and Furious and do a sex scene?
Speaker 4: Like is that okay?
Speaker 1: Especially if there's no parameters around the rules and the
Speaker 1: I just think the whole I think so weird.
Speaker 4: We don't want to see it.
Speaker 2: I imagine it's going to be like he is going
Speaker 2: to do nothing wrong. They're not going to have sex scenes.
Speaker 2: They're going to make him do drugs. They're not going
Speaker 2: to what it's going. I feel like they're going to
Speaker 2: make him look like a hero in a way to
Speaker 2: honor him.
Speaker 3: It is Vindi's was his best friend.
Speaker 2: And just to answer your question in relation to who
Speaker 2: owns an image, we did a bit of researching this
Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: The creators of the AI image.
Speaker 2: So even though it is Paul Walker's likeness, it's his
Speaker 2: face on a cgi body, it still belongs to the creator.
Speaker 2: So whoever created the image owns it, but they can't
Speaker 2: use it for publicity purposes. So whilst they own it,
Speaker 2: they still need to get approval from that person's in
Speaker 2: this case a state. The estate is his daughter, Meadow,
Speaker 2: so they had to go to her to say, hey,
Speaker 2: do you approve us using this? So it has been
Speaker 2: a big collaborative I.
Speaker 1: Just I understand that, but I also I just don't
Speaker 1: know if an estate, or if family or if best
Speaker 1: friends should have a right to say yes, it's okay
Speaker 1: to use a complete the AI generated version of the
Speaker 1: person that's passed away that they cannot consent to.
Speaker 4: That they are literally dead and have been for over
Speaker 4: a decade.
Speaker 2: Well, Meadow is obviously going to benefit financially as well,
Speaker 2: because is a fishery of the estate. I just think
Speaker 2: it's such an ethical minefield to try and navigate, and like,
Speaker 2: where do you draw the line if you say, well,
Speaker 2: this one's okay because it's family and friends who are
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: Can we bring back child actors who have passed away?
Speaker 1: Can we bring back music?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: There's are so many variations, and they think that unless
Speaker 1: the legislation and the laws catch up. I don't know
Speaker 1: whether we should just be making concessions for friends and
Speaker 1: family because we want to see out fast and furious.
Speaker 4: There's been ten of them.
Speaker 3: No, if you pass away another one, I one hundred
Speaker 3: percent need this as an income. I'm going to keep
Speaker 3: doing it. I'm just going to find someone else, all right.
Speaker 4: Well, guys, that is it from us today.