1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Now, there is a lot to cover off this week 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to various issues around the Northern Territory 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, domestic violence has again been highlighted this week, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: with police yesterday charging a twenty nine year old man 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: with his father's murder after an alleged domestic violence incident 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: in Moyle over the weekend. He was reminded in custody 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and was expected to appear in the Darwin Local Court yesterday, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: but that case has been adjourned until today. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Now, the domestic and family. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Violence rates in the Northern Territory that we're seeing right 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: now are terrible. We also know an eighteen year old 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: woman was yesterday in a critical condition after an alleged 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: domestic violence assault in a remote Northern Territory community last week. 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: The continued incidents have led the Northern Territory government to 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: continue to call for needs based funding, something that it 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem or sound as though the federal government are 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: in a rush to support. Now the Opposition leader Lea 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Fanocchiaro joins me on the line right now. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: Leah, Good morning Katie and to your listeners. 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: Now, Leah, the continued incidents they are meaning that the 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Northern Territory government continues to call for this needs based 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: funding for domestic violence and the issues that we're seeing 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: with family violence. But Lea, it doesn't sound as though 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: the federal government is coming to the table here. What 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: do you make of these calls. 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 3: I think it shows that both territory and federal labor 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 3: are failing Territorians. We've got the highest rates of domestic 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: violence we've ever seen, Katie, and under the last seven 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: years of labor, domestic violence has increased over one hundred 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: percent across the territory. So this is an enormous issue. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: And we've had the Prime Minister Blight to Darwin literally 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: to do a fundraiser for Natasha Files and not acknowledge 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: the fact that the territory is proportionately overrepresented in domestic violence, 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: that we have tragedies occurring on a weekly, if not 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: daily basis, and that more needs to be done. And 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: this sits squarely at the feet of the people in power, 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: and that's territory and federal labor. 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: So Lea, it. 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Does sound as though you certainly support this push for 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: needs based. 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: Funding, certainly, and it's a very important thing. But for 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: the Prime minister to basically come to town to talk 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: about labor instead of the territory and dismiss it as well. 45 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: Domestic violence happens everywhere, just shows how out of touch 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: territory and federal labor really are. Now. There are measures 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: that the territory labor government could take tomorrow if they 48 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: wanted to Katie to drive down the rates of domestic violence, 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: and that means things like getting serious around alcohol. So, 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: for example, the colp's policy on having compulsory alcohol treatment 51 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: will mean that people are being treated for their addiction, 52 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: which is causing so much misery and destruction and carnage 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: and domestic violence across the territory. We could strengthen electronic 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: monitoring uses for domestic violence offenders. We could have stronger 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: bail laws, but labor doesn't want to do any of 56 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: the things necessary to keep people safe. 57 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Leah, why do you think they're holding back? Why do 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: you think that they're not taking those tougher measures and 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: doing what you say they could be doing today to 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: try to minimize these impacts. Is it because our jails 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: are too full? 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think an infrastructure deficit is an excuse 63 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: for any government to not keep its community safe. And 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: we've seen time and time again Labor turned their back 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: on the single biggest issue facing territorians, and that's crime, 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: from domestic violence to break in and everything in between, Katie. 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: So they have completely given up on governing the territory 68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: and doing their jobs. They've shown their out of touch, 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: They've shown they're only talking about themselves, and it's not 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: good enough because our community is suffering when these are 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: the very people with the power to make change, and 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: they're not doing it because they don't want to backflip 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: on their earlier decisions from twenty sixteen where they watered 74 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: down laws and watered down police power. 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Lea. Their argument is that they are making changes that 76 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: are based on research, that they're making changes that are 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: evidence based rather than doing you know, knee jerk reaction 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: and knee jerk decisions that you know that are what 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the community wants to hear, but don't necessarily make a difference. 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: I think the proof is in the putting. If this 81 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: government want the evidence, and what more evidence do they 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: need than an over one hundred percent increase in domestic 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: violence on their watch, it clearly shows that what they're 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: doing is not working. Across a range of portfolios. It 85 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: shows that we still haven't They still haven't adequately addressed housing, 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: they haven't addressed alcohol, fuel, violence and harm. You know, 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: this goes right back to even making sure our kids 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: are getting to school, Katie. And yet this government is 89 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: failing on every measure that you can point to that 90 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: is leading to dysfunction right across the territory. So community 91 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: safety has to be number one. The stats are disgraceful 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: and for Labor to say they're following the evidence, well, 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: the evidence in the crime step stats speaks volume and 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: they need to start looking at that. 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Leah on that there was more havoc in Alice Springs 96 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: overnight with youth ripping around the CBD in stolen cars. 97 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: Police say that three stolen cars were driven recklessly through 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: the night, swerving at police, with the occupants. 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: Throwing rocks at them. 100 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Now, after reviewing CCTV, officers have told the ABC that 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: it's amazing that no one was killed or injured. The 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: cars have since been recovered, with efforts underway to find 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: the offenders. It is unfortunately another example of you know, 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: people running. 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 3: It's disgusting Katie and people in Alice Springs are beside 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 3: themselves and they just don't know what the future looks 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: like for their town if Labor let it continue like this, 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: and this is happening right across the territory. As a COLP, 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: we've been very strong on saying and needs to be 110 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: minimum mandatory sentencing for people who assault police or any worker, 111 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: because when you are at work, you are more vulnerable, 112 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: and ultimately we need to have stronger consequences for people 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: who do things like that. But I'd be very interested 114 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: to hear the age of these offenders, Katie, because we 115 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: know that Labor has agained disempowered our police by raising 116 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: the age of criminal responsibility, which means less people are 117 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: being held responsible for their offending and it's tying up 118 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: police's hands and their time with a catch and release 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: program that Labor want to see our police running rather 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: than dealing with the offending. 121 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Well, look, I jo don't have any detail this point 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: in time on the ages of those kids or exactly 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: or if they are indeed you know that young, what 124 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: ages they are, But I tell you what you know. 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: The fact that they've then been throwing rocks at the police, 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: I just think is terrible and it does make it, 127 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: so Yeah, it just makes it so tough, you know, 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: the job that the police are doing, and to have 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: that real lack of respect towards them and that lack 130 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: of respect towards themselves and you know the danger that 131 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: they're putting themselves in is shocking. 132 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Katie. And this is why focusing on kids 133 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: getting to school is so important. You know, it's if 134 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: you don't laugh your crime. In parliament, we have the 135 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: government constantly saying Natasha Izas constantly says kids who go 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: to school don't commit crimes. And yet we've got a 137 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: declining attendance rate right across the territory for kids getting 138 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: to school, and so again we've got a disempowerment of 139 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: people being able to get kids to school. This government 140 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: is not holding parents accountable for sending their children to school, 141 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: they're not holding criminals accountable for their criminal action, and 142 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: they're putting police and the community's lives in danger through 143 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: this total escalation and violent offending. So we have a 144 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: total societal breakdown Katie, where this government is standing back, 145 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: completely out of touch, out of ideas, and not listening 146 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: to the community. 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, there needs to be some serious change, a 148 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,679 Speaker 1: serious seriously different approach to the way that we're dealing 149 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: with things right now, because what is happening on the 150 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: streets of Alice Springs, what's happening in Darwin, what's happening 151 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: with our rates of domestic violence is not okay. 152 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: But Lea. 153 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Another area where there are concerns today is interest rates. 154 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: They are tipped to rise. More than two million Aussie 155 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,359 Speaker 1: households are going to be in the red if, as expected, 156 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the RBA raises those rates. Now, most economists expect that 157 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: the RBA is going to lift the cash rate from 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: four point one percent, where it's at stagnant since June, 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: to four point three five percent. Leah, what impact do 160 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: you think this is going to have on territory households. 161 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: I think it's going to have a huge impact, Katie. 162 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: That's a really big jump if it happens. And of 163 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: course we already know there are a large portion of 164 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: Territorians under mortgage stress. And you know, to go back 165 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: to the crime point, that's adding an extra cost of 166 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: living because businesses are paying for security, they're replaced in glass. 167 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: All of those costs are going on top of products, 168 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: insurance premiums are going through the roof. I was speaking 169 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: to someone just last week who said their car insurance 170 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: had gone from I think about one thousand and seven 171 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: hundred a year to over three thousand, and they were 172 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: told it was because of all the cars being stolen, 173 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: the break ins, and we hear these stories every single day, Katie, 174 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: everything I've. 175 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: Heard, I have definitely heard of territory and saying that 176 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: their insurance rates are going up as a result of crime. 177 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I'd be really keen to hear from our listeners this 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: morning if that is the case for you, send us 179 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: a message zero four double nine seven double one three 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: six zero and let us know if it is your 181 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: car insurance or if it is your home insurance and 182 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: the way in which. 183 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: It has changed. Lea. 184 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Obviously crime is the factor, and you know break ins 185 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing is a factor when you 186 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: talk about cost of living. But what do you think 187 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: could be happening in the Northern Territory in an effort 188 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: to try and lower the cost of living. 189 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: If these rates do go up. 190 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: Just stepping away from crime and personal safety at this point. 191 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: Well, I think what's really important is people have confidence 192 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: and certainty around our economy and the problem is as 193 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: people struggle to put food on the table, and these 194 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 3: mounting bills, you know, hitting the hip pocket. People want 195 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: to know that they've got the jobs and opportunities into 196 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: the future and the wages growth to be able to 197 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: shoulder those blows, and unfortunately wages growth is just not 198 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: matching the high rates of cost of living. So our 199 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: plan is around having a stronger economy and that means 200 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: we need to cut the red tape. We need to 201 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: make it very efficient and very attractive to do business 202 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: in the territory. It of course has to be a 203 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: safe place or you can't attract and retain staff, but 204 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: ultimately it's a total mind shift change around the territory 205 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 3: being open for business so that we can give territories 206 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: good jobs, good wages growth and they can continue to 207 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: afford to live here now. 208 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: Later on Friday, we spoke to the CEO of Hospitality 209 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory, Alex Spruce. We discussed the 210 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,239 Speaker 1: role out of OC spray and the need for a timeline. 211 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: So this is for crowd controllers being able to use 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: that OC spray. Is it something that you support and 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: do you think that the government needs to provide that timeline. 214 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: Or they do need to provide a timeline. Let's not 215 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: forget that. You know, this is something Labor promised in 216 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: the wake of the death of Deck and Lavity, and 217 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: this was all meant to be their immediate response to 218 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: strengthen community safety, and yet we've seen really extraordinarily little 219 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: amounts coming out of it. I mean, we had a 220 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: bail review that was meant to be immediate and resulted 221 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: in no changes to bail. So unfortunately, what we're seeing 222 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: is an increase in use of security because of the 223 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 3: fact that Labor has ignored our police force, failed to 224 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: properly recruit our police, failed to have community safety under control, 225 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: and so this escalation of increasing escalation of crime is 226 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: putting more demand than ever before in our police and 227 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: so you know, a solution to that for this government 228 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: is to increase powers to security, but ultimately we need 229 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: to be driving down the rates of crime. Is a mess, Katie, 230 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: this is actually just a mess. I don't know where 231 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: this ends with Labor. And honestly, Katie, if people want 232 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: to change to the territory, they have to change the government. 233 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: Well, Leah, we are going to have to wrap up. 234 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: We always appreciate your time before I let you guys, 235 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: what are you up to for Melbourne carpent and who 236 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: are you tip for the Cup. 237 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: I'm having a fantastic morning. I'm going to Palmerstan fifty 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: plus club where we have a board game race for 239 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: Melbourne Cup which is fantastic, and the morning tea and 240 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: then I'll be heading to the Darwin Turf Club as well, Katie. 241 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: But my tip today is bow and declare very analytical process. 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: I went through, I looked at all the colors and 243 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: picked the orange plum to match the CLP. 244 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: Of course you did. I should not be surprised by that. 245 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: Look. 246 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: If I was going by the colors. 247 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: I'd go with number seven because it's it's got white 248 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: with a nice pink. 249 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Star on it, which looks beautiful. 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but no doubt I'm going to get some tips 251 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: today that are probably much better thought out than yours. 252 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: And mind Leo Finocchio, So you know, don't bet your 253 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: house on it. 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: Just go easy if you're following my tip, but definitely 255 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: going by color. That's I tried and tested the model 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: of betting. 257 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, Lea Finocchiaro, good to speak with you this morning. 258 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: Thank you so very much for your time. 259 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Take everyone. Good luck today,