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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Part This is out down and dirty little episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It is our Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode where we answer you're deep, dark and burning questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany. That was quite soothing. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a soothing interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Once I finished podcasting, I'm going to get into sex

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<v Speaker 1>line work, I reckon, and then I can just you know, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me gast recording, tell me about your fantasies.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that is not the call that I got

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<v Speaker 2>from you earlier today. Why don't you feel the listeners

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<v Speaker 2>in on the call that I got and what went

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<v Speaker 2>down for you this morning? I'm talking like an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all very very recent.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not okay, everybody not okay. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>have not emotionally recovered from this yet. So this morning

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why it's so fucking weird as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so when I was on The Bachelor, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how at the end the Bachelor gives you a ring

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<v Speaker 1>at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>There's about five people who's ever made it to the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not successfully okay, Well, if you had made

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<v Speaker 2>it to the very end, honey Badger, would have given

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<v Speaker 2>you a ring, right, I did make it to the end,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get my ring, and it's always too soon,

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<v Speaker 2>more soon, too soon. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we're on the finale, Matt gave me this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful diamond ring.

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<v Speaker 2>I never wear it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not really my style, but he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>since then, I've been given an engagement ring which I

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<v Speaker 1>wear every day. So I woke up this morning and

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<v Speaker 1>I keep the ring that Matt gave me on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep it in a special spot in a cupboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just woke up with this feeling like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Mary has been going through that cupboard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, holy shit, I hope she hasn't moved

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. So I run to the cupboard and I

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<v Speaker 1>open it and I start looking for the ring. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm looking for the ring that Matt gave me

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, I look down at my hand and

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<v Speaker 1>my actual engagement ring is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what the farugh is happened? That

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<v Speaker 2>moment of like sickness in the pit of your stomach

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<v Speaker 2>It was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, did I take it off

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<v Speaker 1>in my sleep? So then I always say I went

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<v Speaker 1>through the bed, and then I went back through photos

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<v Speaker 1>from the day of yesterday, and then I realized the

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<v Speaker 1>ring wasn't on my hand when I was making dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>because I had taken photo of me as you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do when you're making dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went back through all my photos from the

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<v Speaker 1>day and I was like, holy crap, I've lost my ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere between three o'clock and seven o'clock and my engagement

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<v Speaker 1>ring's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just hysterically cried for about four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to do a reenactment for one second.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean hysterically. I was crying so hard that

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even look for the ring. It's actually and

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<v Speaker 2>I know the type of pain that you felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the type of crying. So I get a

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<v Speaker 2>call from Laura. She's supposed to be out in my

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<v Speaker 2>house mind you for the record, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she must be downstairs or something. I say, hello, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I get and I was like what the

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, what is I was like, breathe,

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<v Speaker 2>what is wrong with you? Where are you? Anyway? It

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<v Speaker 2>ensued from that. After about fifteen minutes I got from

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<v Speaker 2>her that she'd lost her ring. Is it at my

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<v Speaker 2>house somewhere. I've checked my back and I checked everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a bit of a meltdown moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like on a toddler when something really catastrophic, like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, when you break your toddler's Scotch fingerbiscuit in half,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted the whole thing. It was like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those moments when they are crying so hard that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't breathe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what the weird thing is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've thought of this. The weird thing is

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<v Speaker 2>you were supposed to get married this weekend. So imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if thanks for reminding me, Brittany, but no I tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I was supposed to be getting married tomorrow everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But imagine if this was actually going ahead and you

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<v Speaker 2>did lose your ring the day before the wedding. This

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<v Speaker 2>is how pathetic I was. I was like, Matt, you

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<v Speaker 2>still Mary, I've lost my ring, And he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>could you stop going to find the damn ring? And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, yeah, Like the wedding's off because you

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<v Speaker 2>lost your ring. He's only marrying for the ring that

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<v Speaker 2>he bought you.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I would just like to confirm that my babysit

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<v Speaker 1>have found my ring, and I love her so much

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<v Speaker 1>that I might actually marry her instead.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually hoping I would find it, because then

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<v Speaker 2>you might like me more. You'd keep it in cash

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<v Speaker 2>it I'd be like, I definitely did not find it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be like, what's that new car are you driving? Anyway, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been it's been a rollercoaster of emotions this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that I've it sounds so dumb. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not dumb as your engagementary, but it is honestly

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<v Speaker 2>the only physical, tangible thing I have in life that

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<v Speaker 2>I actually really care about. It like beside your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>No, like they're not, but I mean, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as in like a piece of material.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to a materialistic item, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>anything else in my life. If I lost other things

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<v Speaker 1>would be inconvenient, like my lap place, yeah, my laptop,

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<v Speaker 1>my foot whatever, those things I would be annoyed and

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bit upset about. But this was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>hit very differently. So for anybody out there who has

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<v Speaker 1>lost an engagement ring, or lost something that's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's an heirloom piece from your great grandma or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly how you feel. I was almost going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you. I was like, if we don't find

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<v Speaker 2>it in the next hour, because you went to line

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<v Speaker 2>and she did a bunch of things after it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you should put on your Instagram and you

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<v Speaker 2>should just say I've lost this. This is a photo.

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<v Speaker 2>Can someone look for it. I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>a quick story of something that happened really recently in

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<v Speaker 2>the tennis world. Andy Murray. Everybody knows Andy Murray. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best tennis players in the world. He

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<v Speaker 2>always takes his wedding ring off. Now, this only happened

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<v Speaker 2>about a month ago. He always takes his wedding ring

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<v Speaker 2>off when he plays because it's just inconvenient, but he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to wear it on his body, so he tied

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<v Speaker 2>it to his shoelace. That's a stupid place to put

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<v Speaker 2>your ring. Well, he plays double Kno, it's never he's

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<v Speaker 2>done his whole career and there's never been a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was training his shoes and he always wears

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<v Speaker 2>this one pair of shoes because they're made for him

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<v Speaker 2>by his sponsors. They got really wet and muddy. They're

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<v Speaker 2>stunk that when he's he was like, oh, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to air these out. This is the night before the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>so it hurts. He just forgot that his ring was

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<v Speaker 2>still attached to the shoelace. He put his shoe underneath

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<v Speaker 2>his car in the car park of the hotel, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how anyone saw them. They were

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<v Speaker 2>underneath because he's like, there's nowhere else to put them outside,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were hidden. He has this moment of panic

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<v Speaker 2>the next morning where he's like, oh my god, my

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<v Speaker 2>ring was on my shoe. But he's like, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be under the car. He goes back

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<v Speaker 2>out and someone has stolen his shoes, so that without

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that his wedding ring's on it, he was in

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute panic. He puts something out on his gram

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got he's got a few million people. But

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<v Speaker 2>long story short, about three days later, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>the thief that took the shoes, somebody returned the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>He got his wedding ring back, and that was just

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<v Speaker 2>in It was just like a manic story. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, when you hear things like this, I'm like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we can use social media for the power of good, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>but imagine being a thief with that fact, that little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of heart still like I'll take the shoes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give the expensive point. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you hear those horrible stories about somebody stealing

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<v Speaker 1>a car and then there's a kid in the back

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, fuck, I just wanted to steal a car.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want your kids. This escalated really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, guys, I'm happy to confirm that I have my ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad to also confirm I'm still not getting married,

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<v Speaker 1>so who knows when that's gonna happen. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you about a little news article that I

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<v Speaker 1>read this week because it gave me a really good chuckle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that some of you, most of you, our

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<v Speaker 1>young listeners, may not know this, but back in our day,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were kids, there was a lovely dinosaur named Barnie.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon there. We so people that are like, who's Barney,

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<v Speaker 2>Barney the purple dinosaur? You know who Barney is. Barnie

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<v Speaker 2>was an absolute staple in our life. In our generation's

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<v Speaker 2>life growing up, it was a cartoon. He was a dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone watched him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he would dance and I don't know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he sung. He was in a costume. He looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a football mascot. But he was just just like purple

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur with a green belly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the equivalent of the kids today having pepper

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<v Speaker 2>Pig Like. It was that kind of all bluey like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big staple in our life, except it

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<v Speaker 2>was a grown man in cider costume dancing around. It

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of more like like the wiggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, exactly a sessimestre feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we've described with this enough for everybody who knows

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<v Speaker 2>who Barney is, they're like, get to the fucking boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why was really in my childhood? Okay, what happened with Barney?

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<v Speaker 2>What has he done here?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, guys, the man who played Barney the Dinosaur

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<v Speaker 1>now runs tantric sex business. After playing Varney the Dinosaur

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety one to two thousand and one, David

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<v Speaker 1>Joyner decided that he wanted to retire as a dinosaur

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<v Speaker 1>and he would set up his very own tantric sex business.

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<v Speaker 2>What a normal progression. Hey, absolutely, what a segue. What

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<v Speaker 2>else would you do when you were once a dinosaur?

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<v Speaker 2>When you've once been a giant dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to read this quote few because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit weird. Makes me feel a bit uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. Speaking to Vius back in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>he said the energy I brought up while in costume

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<v Speaker 1>is based on the foundation of tantra, which is love.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything stems, grows, and evolves from love. Even when you

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<v Speaker 1>have emotionally blocked energy, the best way to remove it

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<v Speaker 1>is to remove it with love and then replace it

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<v Speaker 1>with God's divine love. Love heels and allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to grow. Now, I think that's a beautiful quote. However,

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<v Speaker 1>not in relation to being a children's performer. Absolutely, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>who would have thought the Barny was.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a trooper? I think that's a beautiful quote. Also, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the world is full of love, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think things should be dealt with love. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with sex, and okay there is when

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<v Speaker 2>it's from a child. This is my point. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with sex and tantrick, sex and all of the above.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a little bit worrying when you've spent twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years as a children performer on a stage and a

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<v Speaker 2>dinosaur and then you have those feelings like I just

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<v Speaker 2>think those two need to be separate. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you made a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think it's absolutely fine to have seasons in

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime, Like you can go from being a child

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<v Speaker 1>performer and that career and then go to doing whatever

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to do. It's absolutely those two things

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<v Speaker 1>can be completely unrelated careers and occupations. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>issue comes with making reference to your child performing days

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<v Speaker 1>and saying that you are exuding that energy.

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<v Speaker 2>That is where I'm like, wow, I feel very differently

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<v Speaker 2>about watching you as a Sami world. Now, how many

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<v Speaker 2>live shows did you know? Don't say that? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that headlines. It has been a little while

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<v Speaker 2>since we had a random headline. My favorite is still

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<v Speaker 2>the woman that married the Dolphin, But I love that

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<v Speaker 2>you brought that today, Laura, I'm coming in hot with

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<v Speaker 2>an update today. Actually, I don't often have updates. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys don't actually update us often, but this is an

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<v Speaker 2>update from a listener. Now, if you listen to last

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<v Speaker 2>week's ask Guncut. We answered a question about a man

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<v Speaker 2>and a woman, a boyfriend and girlfriend that had gone

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<v Speaker 2>to UNI together. They had the same degrees. They were

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<v Speaker 2>out in the workforce at the same time. He was

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<v Speaker 2>really unmotivated. He wasn't earning any money. He was sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>till midday. She was very motivated, had a really great job,

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<v Speaker 2>and he asked her basically to pay more rents.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have a nicer place. Just on this as

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<v Speaker 1>well if you didn't listen to the episode. Basically, she

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<v Speaker 1>said that he was pursuing a more entrepreneurial career. However,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't really hustling at that career. He was sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>until mid He was being pretty lazy, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>still expecting her to pay a majority share.

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<v Speaker 2>She just wrote us an update, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>read it out just because I really love when these

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<v Speaker 2>updates come through. And if you guys, if we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>answered a question for you and you want to update us,

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<v Speaker 2>and whether it's a good update or bad one, however

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<v Speaker 2>it worked out, just slide back into the DMS. Hey, girls,

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<v Speaker 2>you answered my question this week, and I was absolutely stoked.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved your answers and I agree with everything so

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<v Speaker 2>much I realized it was really not about feminism. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the main point is the problem of transferring a

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<v Speaker 2>UNI relationship to the real world. It's tough as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>I made it clear to my boyfriend that I am

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<v Speaker 2>not willing to put that amount of money into rent,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said he understands. I think it is a

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<v Speaker 2>big problem in our relationship that he is still clinging

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<v Speaker 2>to his UNI rhythm. It's like he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>grow up and accept that UNI is over. He said

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<v Speaker 2>that he'll give himself six months to follow his entrepreneurial ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>and after that he will get back into the real world.

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<v Speaker 2>I think getting up earlier would be helpful, or even

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<v Speaker 2>give him the opportunity to have a small side job.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's his life the end, and I can't make him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what happens in six months. But thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for your answers. I think it's great they've had the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I'm not gonna pay the extra rent. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>totally fine, give me six months. But he's still sleeping in.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still not willing to get up and think. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the problem in this relationship is and she highlighted

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is UNI relationships and teenage relationships and those

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<v Speaker 2>really young relationships we do, unfortunately sometimes grow in different directions,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think some relationships can be very situational and

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<v Speaker 2>points of our life. And she's obviously realized that she's

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<v Speaker 2>still willing to give it a go and work at it,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a part in the back of her head

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<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know what, maybe we've both finished university

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<v Speaker 2>and we're ready for different things, and that's definitely a consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've given each other six months, so I hope

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully she writes us in six months and he's either

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<v Speaker 2>making a million bucks as an entrepreneur, or he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a real job, or they're not together anymore. But I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to know what happens in the end of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like brit said, we absolutely love it when we

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<v Speaker 1>have answered and asked guncut question and we get the outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>like whether you've taken on the advice, whether you disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with the advice, whether you love the advice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really would love for us to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Able to do an update episode, like a bonus episode

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<v Speaker 1>in the next coming weeks where we kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>rehash some of our ask uncut questions that we have

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<v Speaker 1>done in the past. So if you ask somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>listening who has had an ask uncut answered, please slide

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<v Speaker 1>into our DMS and answer that. The only other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say on this and just to expand

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<v Speaker 1>or what you just said, Britt, is like absolutely, relationships

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<v Speaker 1>can be situational, and when something fundamentally changes i e.

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<v Speaker 1>Finishing UNI and everything in your life shifts, it can

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<v Speaker 1>really highlight the huge differences that you guys have or

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<v Speaker 1>the huge differences in personality that maybe were masked because

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<v Speaker 1>you were both doing the same thing and enjoying the

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<v Speaker 1>same lifestyle. So, like you said, you know, relationships have

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<v Speaker 1>and not just like all relationships the same as friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are for a reason, a season.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a lifetime, and there's this moment like think back,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what your situation was, Laura, when you

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<v Speaker 2>finish university, but there is this moment in time when

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<v Speaker 2>you finish UNI and there's this realization of some people

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<v Speaker 2>have Okay, I finally can go and earn money, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can be professional and I can do all these

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<v Speaker 2>things I've wanted to do because money is going to

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<v Speaker 2>allow me to do this and this and this, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're really excited to knuckle down and progress their career.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's this moment of like, this could be

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<v Speaker 2>the last moment of my entire life that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have this freedom and this youth and this stress free life.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way, there's a moment that some people don't

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<v Speaker 2>transition as easily. So maybe he's just having some trouble

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<v Speaker 2>accepting that that stage of his life is over and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a whole bunch more responsibility now, And you

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<v Speaker 2>can't sleep in the second he goes and gets a

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<v Speaker 2>real job. Those sleeping until twelve o'clock are gone totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Neither of these things are right

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<v Speaker 1>or wrong, Like, neither of these things are better or worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that it's the same for like coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of school, coming out of university, coming out of like

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<v Speaker 1>big career changes. It's like any one of these huge

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<v Speaker 1>shifts in life. Some people adapt to change really quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and easily.

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<v Speaker 2>And some people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people will take on extra courses at UNIQ

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<v Speaker 1>becase they're not ready to leave that lifestyle yet or

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what the hell they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it is absolutely okay, and the whole spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>of it is like, there's nothing wrong with it as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it works for both of you, one hundred percent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into today's questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a different kind of question to kickstart today.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, and I've actually got two questions that tie

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<v Speaker 2>into the same sort of vibe. We haven't answered something

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<v Speaker 2>like this before. Girls, one of my best friends does

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<v Speaker 2>makeup on the side as a little side hustle. This weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a wedding coming up with a big group

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<v Speaker 2>of our friends. I asked her if she could do

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<v Speaker 2>my makeup for it, but we didn't discuss a cost.

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<v Speaker 2>Silly me assumed she would do it for free, as

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<v Speaker 2>we are best friends and I wouldn't charge your best

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<v Speaker 2>friend for that. As a maximum, I would charge someone

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<v Speaker 2>for the products. I would expect this, as of course

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<v Speaker 2>the products cost money. I was very taken aback when

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<v Speaker 2>she asked me to bring seventy dollars cash when I come.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was so taken aback because I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have asked a friend for money to do their makeup.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to say, I don't want lashes hope it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a little bit cheaper, but she said nope,

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<v Speaker 2>she usually charges ninety dollars and that she can't do

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<v Speaker 2>it for free as the products cost money. I totally

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<v Speaker 2>understand this, but I just wasn't expecting to be stung

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<v Speaker 2>seventy dollars. Am I being stingy? Or is this a

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<v Speaker 2>bit steep to be doing a friends makeup? I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up very awkwardly canceling, as I'd rather spend the money

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<v Speaker 2>to get my makeup done for a bigger event. What

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<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts, doun done dumb? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I have some feeling I think, and like this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to come off as a bit harsh, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is very unreasonable to ask your friend

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<v Speaker 1>to do something with the expectation that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it for free, regardless of whether they're a best

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<v Speaker 1>friend or not. If that's their job, if you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>them to work for free, I think, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>side hustle. Yeah, well, I mean it's still their job, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still how they make income. I think, yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be nice if they did. And obviously it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>that she offered a discount, which she has offered a discount.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't ask for some thing with the expectation

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<v Speaker 1>that it's free, regardless of who the person is, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of whether it's your best friend or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I think this is a tricky one, and

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<v Speaker 2>you said it yourself. You can't always expect people to

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<v Speaker 2>have the same ideas as you and opinions and you

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<v Speaker 2>and behave like you do. That's that's unrealistic. I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with Laura. I think you can never have an expectation

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<v Speaker 2>from anyone that you know, friends or strangers, that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is going to do something for free. So even with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, I've been in situations like that before. I

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<v Speaker 2>always and I've had friends that would do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for me for free, and I do a lot for

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<v Speaker 2>them for free. But I always go into that with

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation that it's not for free. I always go

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<v Speaker 2>in and say, let me know the cost of this,

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<v Speaker 2>how much? What can we sort out? And they'll either

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<v Speaker 2>say the cost or they'll say, oh, don't worry about it,

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<v Speaker 2>like you've done this for me or it's on me

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But you should never go in with that expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's I mean, ultimately, in tough times like today

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like with COVID, and people have been so

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<v Speaker 2>out of work for so long. I think that these

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<v Speaker 2>are things that you know, this is an income for her,

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know that that might be going towards her

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<v Speaker 2>rent this week or whatever it is like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>also seventy dollars just as like an added bonus that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good for you makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's super cheap for a makeup, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing her a really good price. Like I think genuinely,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy dollars is very very cheap to get your makeup done.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of layers to this one. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the expectation that's gotten you into this uncomfortable, awkward situation,

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<v Speaker 1>Like totally all could have been avoided by making an

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<v Speaker 1>offer or payment, or just by asking, hey, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to do my makeup, how much would you charge me?

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<v Speaker 1>That would have given your friend the opportunity to say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing or to say seventy dollars. So the expectation is

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<v Speaker 1>what's caused the awkward situation. But the second part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is a really important thing to dissect,

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<v Speaker 1>is how undervalued creative industries are and how undervalued the

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<v Speaker 1>services that creative people provide are. And I think when

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be a graphic designer back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my so I studied graphic design and UNI.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my first degree and my first job out

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<v Speaker 1>of UNI. I did that for ten years, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>alongside doing Tony May. I cannot tell you the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of people who asked me if I could do business

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<v Speaker 1>cards or websites or logos, or create letterheads for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or just can you just make my resume look nicer.

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<v Speaker 1>All of my friends asked me to do that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the constant asking that creates that sort of like exasperation.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel like, well, okay, everybody asks me

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<v Speaker 1>for free, so I'm just gonna have to charge everyone

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly reduced rate. Who are my friends? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have that many hours in the day. It

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<v Speaker 1>creates burnout, and it also makes you feel like what

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to do is completely undervalued by the

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<v Speaker 1>people who care about you. So I'm very passionate about

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<v Speaker 1>people who work in creative industries being paid for the

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's okay that you can't if that's what it

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<v Speaker 2>is like, If you were tight for money and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford the seventy dollars for the makeup, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay as well. But I think what you need to

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<v Speaker 2>do going forward in any situation, and that's anyone that's listening,

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<v Speaker 2>is ask the question to start with, hey, are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing makeups for the wedding? Like what are you charging? Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to work out what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do for it totally. She'll give you the fee and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's it. And if you feel awkward with her now,

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<v Speaker 2>you could always be honest with her and you say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had to reassess my finances and I just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the sementy spare that week. But I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you saying you would do it. Takes any awkwardness away,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like when you said you awkwardly canceled,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to be awkward. I think honesty is

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<v Speaker 2>the key. I think you to say, hey, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was just too I overexerted myself this week and I

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't have that semni spirit. But I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>offering to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, you know, maybe think about it from like

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<v Speaker 1>a different industry perspective. If your friend was a PT trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>would you expect to still pay them for PT training

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<v Speaker 1>but at a reduced cost. If your friend was an accountant,

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<v Speaker 1>would you still expect to pay your friend who's an

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<v Speaker 1>accountant if they were doing attack. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>like harp on about the whole creative industry's aspect of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think it plays a huge role in

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<v Speaker 1>our perception around the value of a service. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really just think regardless of how close a friends you

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<v Speaker 1>are with someone, Yes, it's always nice for someone to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it, I'll give this one to you

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<v Speaker 1>for free, but the expectation causes so many issues. Even

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<v Speaker 1>from a jewelry business perspective. The amount of times where

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<v Speaker 1>friends have been like, oh, I really want this ring

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like cool, by yeah, or I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a discount code to buy it, and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to any of my friends. I fucking love you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>not take this as a personal offense if you're listening.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, I really value my girlfriends who go

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<v Speaker 1>online and buy pieces from me or who in the

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<v Speaker 1>past maybe I've given them something, but then they've also

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<v Speaker 1>bought something from me because it makes me feel like

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<v Speaker 1>what I create and what my business is as a

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<v Speaker 1>small business is valued to them. But for the people

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<v Speaker 1>who just ask for things and say, oh, I really

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<v Speaker 1>want this ring, but have never bought anything and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just expect it, what I do in those situations

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't give it to them. I wait until

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<v Speaker 1>it's their birthday or it's Christmas, and until it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a special occasion, and then I give it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because everything costs money. Your time costs money, your products

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<v Speaker 1>cost money. All of that needs to be valued at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Question number two?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Question number two actually comes from producer Key Shaw.

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<v Speaker 2>She just happens to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sitting right here in the room, lurking around. A ya, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 1>take the microphone, give us question numero?

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<v Speaker 2>Do it okay? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>This is a synopsis of the question because it may

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<v Speaker 3>or may not be attached to someone that I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a friend, a friend of a friend, and

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<v Speaker 3>she very generously has offered another friend of hers whose

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<v Speaker 3>birthday is coming up. The backstory of this is that

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<v Speaker 3>she has what they call virgin hair, so noncolored hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's ever had sex with her hair before.

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<v Speaker 3>So my friend, very generously, in my opinion, offered that

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<v Speaker 3>for her birthday, she would pay for her to get

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<v Speaker 3>her hair done.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't live in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I'm trying to say by this is that

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<v Speaker 3>the price of getting it done in regional areas, I

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<v Speaker 3>have found in my experience, is a little bit less.

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<v Speaker 2>Than what it is in your metropolitan cities. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to get a color in Sydney, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like five hundred dollars. Why I literally cut my own

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<v Speaker 2>hair in the bathroom sink. It's a week's rant for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So my friend has now gotten back to us

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<v Speaker 3>and said, I've just received a message. She's booked in

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<v Speaker 3>at this salon and it is a particularly lux salon.

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<v Speaker 3>She's expecting it to cost between three hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>and four hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>She said.

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<v Speaker 3>I was being taken back by this because the reason

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<v Speaker 3>that I initially offered was because she was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>down in the dump saying, look, I've got these grays

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm feeling really self conscious about it, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would just want to get the grays covered. So I

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<v Speaker 3>anticipated that it would just be like one color overall,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a blow dry. Maybe Looking at two hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>now that it's going to cost double that, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>bit shocked and I kind of feel as though, like,

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<v Speaker 3>am I the asshole?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I do here? Is that too much to expect?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I think easily four hundred dollars is way too much

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<v Speaker 1>to expect for a present?

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<v Speaker 2>So is it a birthday present? Just remind me yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's too much. I'm just trying to think, Laura, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you and I even gave each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I give you a massage once. I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think I haven't used and you haven't us

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<v Speaker 2>It's like two years ago. I've got you two massages

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<v Speaker 2>and you have. Everything's been closed, it's been COVID cute,

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<v Speaker 2>good excuse. You've probably lost them, like you'reing age or

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<v Speaker 2>too sit So, okay, this is a tricky situation. You've

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<v Speaker 2>done a really nice thing and you said, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>will help you with your gray hair. You can get

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<v Speaker 2>your roots done. I would be absolutely gobsmack. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a super tricky situation because I've tried to do something

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<v Speaker 2>nice and in all honesty, and I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like I'm a bit against the friend here

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually getting the grays. The expectation that your friend

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<v Speaker 2>that's kindly offered you a hair color, the expectation that

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<v Speaker 2>they will pay four hundred dollars. I would never ever

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<v Speaker 2>ever ask or expect a friend of mine to pay

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<v Speaker 2>that much money. The tricky situation here is you've offered it,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel awkward. I think what you need to do

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<v Speaker 2>is say, hey, super stoked you found a saling you love.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard really good things about them. In all honesty,

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred dollars is probably too much for me this

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<v Speaker 2>week or at the moment, four forever until I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred dollars is too much. But here is a voucher.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's for half or whatever you are comfortable with,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever in your head you thought that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to cost you, you can say, here is a voucher. Alternatively,

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<v Speaker 2>I can really recommend my hairdresser. She's absolutely amazing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that it's half the price, Like, I can

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<v Speaker 2>really recommend her. That's what you do. I again, with money,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there needs to be an embarrassment. I

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<v Speaker 2>think people need to be really honest with each other

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<v Speaker 2>because if you go to her and say, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have four hundred dollars for your hair, I'm so sorry I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have one hundred dollars on my own hair, She's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be mortified. She's gonna be absolutely of course, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's you know, no expectations, pay a hundred dollars or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Money causes so many problems in relations because the problems

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<v Speaker 1>in like romantic relationships, and it can cause problems in friendships,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like I mean, we've all had that one friend

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<v Speaker 1>who never pays enough for dinner or doesn't buy drinks

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<v Speaker 1>or always seems to like conveniently leave when it's their

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<v Speaker 1>turn to buy around.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the opposite. I get so awkward. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be the person at the table that would be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>i'll get everyonce. Here's five thousand dollars for the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm so awkward with money. When someone's just spltered,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be like, I don't worry, I'll just get it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was gonna say is I'm just I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on the girl who's getting her hair done.

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<v Speaker 2>Side for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you're saying she has virgin hair, she's never had

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<v Speaker 1>her hair done before.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she genuinely.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't know how much hair costs and to get a

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<v Speaker 1>hair coloring costs, and just booked into somewhere that she

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<v Speaker 1>knows is nice, books into somewhere that she's had a

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<v Speaker 1>haircut before, asks for a service, and they gave her

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<v Speaker 1>a quote, and she was like cool, maybe fully thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what her friend expected to pay, fully thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that that is what a normal hair coloring costs, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's never ever had it done before. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>a very honest conversation in these sorts of situations. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that money can be uncomfortable, but saying like, oh, hey, Bett,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually super expensive in comparison to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other hairdressers in the city. I don't know if you're aware,

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<v Speaker 1>but this place is really great and they do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this price. If you have an amount that you're

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<v Speaker 1>happy with, like that's probably the best way to tackle it,

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<v Speaker 1>or say I'll buy you a voucher to contribute, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, Britt. But I genuinely don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>this person is intentionally trying to take her friend for

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<v Speaker 1>a ride. I don't think anybody's intentionally trying to like

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<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, fuck it, my friends are going to pay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna go to the most expensive salon in Australia. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it comes with a bit of naivety

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look, I'm like, no one's to blame here,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't the thing. And I love that your devil's

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<v Speaker 2>advocate on that one, but I am going to disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with something even if you don't know how much. Like

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<v Speaker 2>relatively another salon would cost four hundred dollars should still

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<v Speaker 2>ring some alarm bells when you've ask him for a

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<v Speaker 2>friend to diye hair, Like that's what I think. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she's still intentionally being malicious or taking me

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<v Speaker 2>for a ride. I don't think that at all. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just turning into an awkward situation that

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<v Speaker 2>it absolutely doesn't have to be. And if I if

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<v Speaker 2>this was me, I would just go back to my

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<v Speaker 2>friend and be like, well, there is that is so

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<v Speaker 2>much more than I've ever paid. I would say it

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I'd be like, whoa four hundred dollars my

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<v Speaker 2>hairdresser only cost me this much. I would say something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, like my adress only cost me two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for that? Do you want to look at my

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<v Speaker 2>hairdresser or yeah, I'll give you a voucher for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that because again, Laura, maybe she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that you can get it cheaper elsewhere. If she does,

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<v Speaker 2>think that's standard, just tell her, just say, hey, like

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<v Speaker 2>my hairdresser does an amazing job for half of that price. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I mean. That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a bit of naivity that comes into it. Education, communication.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the answer a to all your probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you something funny? My mom's gonna hate me.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I'm really worried that the person who wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>question in who didn't even write it in Who's Friends

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<v Speaker 1>of Keisha probably listened to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck I know, hurry, but again, like really highlighting, no

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<v Speaker 2>one's in the wrong, it's just Money's an awkward situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you something that happened on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I went up to see my parents in Port mcquarie

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<v Speaker 2>and we were both going to buy some air fryers. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I had told him about the airfort ivery thing like

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<v Speaker 2>having a family trip to buy multiple air I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>guys how much I love the air fryer. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>using pichas. This episode is brought to you by air fryers,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like how awkward, Like how I said I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather just pay for stuff. I obviously get that from

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<v Speaker 2>my mom. So we were at this store. They were

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<v Speaker 2>getting this expensive air fry. They're going to get a

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<v Speaker 2>really good one. I didn't want to get the really

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<v Speaker 2>really expensive one. We had been talking. My mom wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know my dad. They wanted to know every question

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<v Speaker 2>about the air fry. So there was the man. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like the good guys or something. The man that

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<v Speaker 2>works there. He's paid to work there. His job is

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<v Speaker 2>to work there. But obviously I think they scan tickets

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<v Speaker 2>when they sell something, and if they get a commission,

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<v Speaker 2>they get a commission eventually. So mine was asking every

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<v Speaker 2>question about the air fry that you could know. We

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<v Speaker 2>probably talked to him for about forty minutes. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>I called my sister Sherry at the last minute just

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<v Speaker 2>to check which one she had because she used it

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I called her a check and I

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<v Speaker 2>told her I was like, hey, we're just about to

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>buy this for mom and dad. Is this what you got?

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>And she's like oh, She's like, am my own loud speaker?

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>And I said no, why, She's like, I just bought

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>them one for Christmas. She's like, I've already got them

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>their air fryer, a really good one. And I was

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>like fuck. I was like, were you They're about to

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 2>purchase one, an expensive one. We're just gonna have to

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>tell them. She's like, fine, just tell them. So I

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>tell mom and dad and like Mom, Dad, like, we

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about the air fright. Sharon's got my for Christmas.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Surprise is over, but there's no point paying a five

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars air fright now. I said to the man,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. We laughed. I was like, my sisters

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>already bought them one. I thank you so much for

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>your time, and he's like, no worries, that's fine. My

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>mum was beside herself. She's like, I am so sorry

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that I have used all of your time and I

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, Mom, it's fine. In front of the man,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Mom, he's paid, it's fine. Like he's just

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>doing his job. He's talking about it. She felt so

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>bad that she went and bought another one hundred and

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars product that she doesn't need so that he

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>could get his commission. I was like, Mom, put the

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>product down. She's like, oh, I could probably use it anyway.

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, fuck, I'm not even certain that they make commission.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even certain that that's the way retail works neither.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But she just was besides, and she's like, don't argue

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>with your mother. And I was like, whatever you want

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to do, but she was that awkward, and I was like,

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>he's literally paid to be here, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy something you don't need, purely to that point.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And he's going to make absolutely no extra money and

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<v Speaker 1>still get paid the twenty five dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, all right, let's get it.

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into your question number three. All right, question

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<v Speaker 1>number three, Hi, guys, I was wondering what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about age gaps. My friend is twenty two then and

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<v Speaker 1>has developed feelings for her male coworker who is forty,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is an eighteen year age gap.

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<v Speaker 2>They both work.

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>In the same position at restaurant and apparently get on

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>really well and flirt a lot. He's asked her to

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<v Speaker 1>grab a drink a couple of times, and she asked

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>me for advice on whether or not to say yes.

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>My overwhelming instinct was to discourage her from pursuing anything.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But the more I thought about it, I didn't really

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have any justifiable reasons as to why am I unfairly

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<v Speaker 1>prejudiced against age gaps?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I an agist?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys think an age gap like this can

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<v Speaker 1>be okay for casual dating? In this case, she is

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>leaving the country in six months, so not looking for

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>anything long term?

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think, I mean we know high last which way, Yes,

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>yes to everything. I mean we all know. I don't

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>mind an age gap. I've only got an age gap

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>of seven years, and I'm the older one, so it's

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>this is a very different situation. But in this situation

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 2>eighteen years. Yes, it is a significant amount of time.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>But she is twenty two, she is an adult. He

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>is forty. You can still be if you can still

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>be very aligned at forty two twenty two, Like, it's

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>such an individual thing. Age doesn't meaning for where someone

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>is at what point of life. They're in the same job,

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>so they obviously have similar interests. In that regard. The

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>only thing that I would have said is a big

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>alarm bell is if he was her boss, or if

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>he was in a position of power or something like that.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>But it seems like they're working on an even platform.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>If this was going to be something serious, like if

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, I think I like him and want

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with him, there'll be so many other things

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>you need to consider, so many aspects because you're gonna

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>be different points of life. One of you might want kids,

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>one of you's not ready, one of you wants to

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>go travel, one of you's already done that. It opens

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>up a whole nother kettle of fish. But I think

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>for this very specific situation, she's twenty two, she's going

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>overseas soon. She's not looking for anything serious. He's not

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a position of power, he's an equal, he's a colleague.

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>They have an attraction. It seems like they flirt and

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>get along. I don't think there is any harm in

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>going on a date. That is my situation. And I

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>think if the only thing that is bothering you and

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>your friend is literally the number, then I don't think

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>it can hurt to go on a date. If there's

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>more to it, and she feels a little bit uncomfortable,

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 2>then of course don't do it, Like there's absolutely no

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>need to do it, no skin off your back.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Also, like I mean, going for a drink doesn't mean

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that you have to pursue anything sexual or beyond just

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>going for a drink. But okay, I agree with you completely, Brit.

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that the fact that you're going overseas and

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>six months, your friend's going over seas in six months

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and something that's casual means that it's even less of

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>an issue. Like I think an age gap can be

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>an issue. I think it would be silly of us

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to say it's always fine. Age gaps don't matter. Age

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>gaps can matter, but they also cannot matter, like I mean,

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it's both ends of the spectrum in this respect, though,

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>with the whole travel thing playing a huge part, I

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think it.

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Is a big deal. But Britt, what is the biggest

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>age gap you've ever had? Seven years? Is the youngest?

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Like Jordan's the youngest I've dated? Oh? I actually no,

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>there was one younger. There's like a couple younger you

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>young pop? What was his name? What do we call him?

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Young pop? We call yes, we did. No Meat Raffle.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Me wait, meat Raffle. Oh my god. Guys, if you've

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>been with the pod since the day one Meet Raffle,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>yeah that was we forget that. We don't talk about that.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I have PTSD.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got suppose suppressed memories about meat Raffle.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>He was one year younger than Jordan, but I didn't

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 2>actually date him properly, so that doesn't count.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember when you told me Meet Raffles age though,

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was shook.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, he's you can't too young. It was

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>the start of my unraveling. And I don't know why.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why my reaction was so like.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess because I had this mentality of like, younger guys,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>being like seven or eight years younger in the early

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>twenties wouldn't align with the things that you wanted in

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>your mid thirties.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, gosh that, since I was early thirties,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>let's not age me up here.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, sorry, I'm just aging you to where I am.

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought that there would be too much of a disparity,

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>but maybe that's an unfair assumption as well. I'm sure

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that there's people who listen to this who have a

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>big age grap in the opposite direction where the guy's

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>younger than the female and they want same things. It

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>all comes down to where you're at in your life

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and whether your life goals aligned.

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Well. The oldest I dated I was about twenty seven

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was forty two. That's pretty big, but I

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that wasn't by choice. He lied to me.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>He told me he was like thirty seven or something,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 2>which in my head I was like, that age gap

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was too big. I remember thinking that, and then when

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I found out after a few dates that he had lied,

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see him anymore because I couldn't. It wasn't

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the age thing. If I really really liked him, it

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have mattered. But I was like, how did you

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>start this with this huge lie? Like this? He age

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>fished you. He age fished me, and I didn't know

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that was a thing, but he age fished me, And

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I felt really disgusted after. I was like, but that

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>for no reason other than just I was with someone

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that blatantly lied to date me.

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I think can sometimes be a

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>problem with huge age gaps as well? Yes, you might

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>be aligned with the person, Like, maybe you guys are

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>on the same page with where you're aut in life.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of men out there who have mass Peter

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Pant syndrome and aren't ready to settle down at forty.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But I guess my thing that I sometimes think could

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>be an issue is will you align with their friends?

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, will you be able to sit at a

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>dinner party with other forty year olds and feel like

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you have anything in common with them?

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Will you be able to sit there and smoke a

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 2>pipe after dinner, smoke a pie like a grandpat, have

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 2>a glass of port, you know how Grandpa's like smoke

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>pipes after dinner. But like, you'll be going to forty.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>If you guys were actually to date and to be

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in a committed relationship, you'd be going to fortieth birthday parties,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you'd be going to baby shells, you'd be going to

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>big life events. And to be fully embedded in that

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 1>person's life means that you're also having relationships with the

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>people who they love, And so it could be that

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 1>then your couple friends are all aged up as well,

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So that may cause some feelings of like, oh do

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I fit in here? In this friendship group. It may not,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's always something to think about.

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 2>To wrap it up, my advice is, if you really

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>get along and you really like him, and you have

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the attraction to him, there's no reason you can't just

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 2>go on a date and like Laura said, you can

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 2>go for coffee, you can go for lunch. There's no expectations,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 2>there's no pressure. You might finish it and be like, Wow,

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I really like him, let's go for a dinner date.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Or you might say wow, we're just really good friends

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>and that's it. Either way. If your only issue is

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 2>that there's eighteen years difference but you want to explore it,

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's okay.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I do think though, one of the bigger issues here,

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>regardless of it being age, I think it's like shitting

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>where you eat. Like, I don't think I would want

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>to date someone from work.

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I've done it so many times.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's necessarily a good recipe though, because

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 1>if you date and things do go badly and there

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>is this like awkward sexual tension, that's like ugh, or

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's problematic, or he likes you more than you like him,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever the situation can be, it makes your working life

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>really complicated, and I think there is a greater chance

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that there will be some misalignments like that you guys

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>won't be on the same page because of the age gap,

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>which then could cause more problems in your work environment.

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>If there is anyone out there that has a big

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 2>age gap and I'm talking like twenty years and it's successful,

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>or you've got kids, or you got married, or and

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that's either men or women older whatever, If any of

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you are like that, I'd love to hear from you.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Slidning too the DM. So I'd just love to hear

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 2>how it went and what problems you face, and just

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>about how the relationship functions. I love a call out.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I love a callout. Jump on into the DMS. Okay, last,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>but not least, I have been with my partner for

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>nine years. Our relationship hasn't always been sunshine and rainbows.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I have taken him back after multiple cheating situations, and

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>for the last two years we have been in an

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>incredible place. However, he has just hit me with a

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>massive bombshell and said he doesn't think he wants to

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>have kids and definitely not in the next five years.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty five and I've only ever pictured being with

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>him and having kids with him. I've always been incredibly maternal,

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really confused here. I've sacrificed a lot for

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>him over nine years, and I really don't know if

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I leave or stay.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh Man, kids is like the biggest one, Isn't it

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>like being aligned on your big life events. If you

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>really want to have children and your partner is saying

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, I don't want to have kids, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be some very honest, open conversations around this.

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>It's very likely that he could change his mind. It's

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.439
<v Speaker 1>also very likely that he won't. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that after nine years of giving up your life for

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>someone you're sure a shit, want to be on the

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>same page. Otherwise you're making too many sacrifices.

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>What jumps out at here is and it's not the

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.279
<v Speaker 2>end of the world. But you said he's cheated on

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 2>you multiple times over the years, You've always taken him back,

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and you've always kept working towards it. I will be

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the first person to say that cheating doesn't have to

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>be the end of a relationship. And I don't want

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>people to jump down my throat at that often it

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 2>is and that is absolutely fine. But we've spoken to

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of relationship therapists that have said some relationships, marriages,

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, depending on the situations, some of them

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 2>can come back stronger than ever after infidelity. That's not

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>for everyone. Obviously, you are happy to take him back

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 2>and work towards it. You've forgiven him, and that's that's

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>great for your relationship. The thing that worries me with

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>this is you said he's cheated on me multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never basically pictured a life without him, and

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I haven't pictured kids without him like I just that

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>is what I pictured. And I think something that we

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>get stuck in as people and in relationships, and especially

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>when we're younger, is this idea of But this is

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 2>how I saw it, This is how I pictured it,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>This is the fairy tale, this is my ending. And

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<v Speaker 2>quite often when a situation or a relationship doesn't work out,

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 2>we mourn the loss of what could have been and

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 2>what we thought was going to happen more than we

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>mourn the loss of the actual relationship. So I think

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>you need to ask yourself, are you only staying with

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>him because you feel like you're too far gone to

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 2>start again? Or you don't have the energy to start again,

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>or you've never been with anyone else because you're only

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. You've been in for nine years, So I'm

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 2>going to take a guess that you haven't had any

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 2>other very serious, long term relationship because you just would

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>have been too young. You really need to figure out

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 2>are you only staying with him because you're too scared

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 2>of the alternative, which is started again being on your

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 2>own try and find someone else, Or are you genuinely

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 2>happy to be with somebody that doesn't want what you

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>want in terms of kids and has cheated on you

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 2>multiple times in the past. If have you still got

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the trust there? There are so many things that only

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you can ask yourself in this situation.

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you're so right, and you just hit something

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 1>like for me. As you're saying that, I was like, Oh,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I've been there with my first It was my first relationship,

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but my my first big relationship six years. I've spoken

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>about him on the pod before I was desperately in

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>love with him.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Our relationship was really rocky.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>He was struggling with depression at the time, but he

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>also was pretty unfaithful in the early years, and then

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>he also he would say to me, point this is

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>really for anyone who this could be a bit triggering,

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>but it was a very profound thing that kept occurring

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in our relationship. He would say to me, if you

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>ever got pregnant, I expect you to get an abortion.

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And that was what he would say to me and

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I and he said, I don't know if I want

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to have kids with you. I don't know if I

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>want to marry you. And we'd been together for six

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>years and I just kept thinking, and because I had

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>created in my head, I was like, this is the

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>man I'm going to marry, this is the man I'm

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>going to spend my life with that I was so

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>convinced he was going to change his mind. I was

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>so convinced that we were working towards a goal. And

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>six years later, we just weren't. We weren't working towards

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that goal. You know, he fundamentally wanted different things to me,

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're not together. And now I have all the

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>things that I always wanted with him, but I have

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 1>them with somebody else. And I have never been more

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>happy than what I am in my life and in

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>my relationships. And I've never been in a safer, more

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>secure relationship. But sometimes to be able to find that

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and to find someone who's fully aligned, you have to

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 1>start again. And I'm not saying that this is one

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent what you're going to have to do, but

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I do think that you will have to have some

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>very honest conversations around whether or not you want to

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have kids. And you're only twenty five, there is plenty

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>of time. But if it's fundamentally something that you want

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and your partner is telling you I don't want this,

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe you need to give yourself a time frame for

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>how long you will make that sacrifice. At what age

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>do you want to be having kids? When do you

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>want to be working towards that with your partner and

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>just put everything on the table. And then if he

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>is the one that comes to the table and says

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I want this, this, and this, and you know it's

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't align with what you want, then there are some

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 1>very big decisions you.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Have to make.

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Don't just stick your head in the sand because time

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:55.240
<v Speaker 1>goes so quickly.

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and having kids or not having kids, that is

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>probably one of the biggest deal breakers in a relationship,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Like it's one of the biggest factors of a relationship breakdown.

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And obviously there are a lot of other things in fidelity,

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 2>different place you want to be in different places you're

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 2>not in alignment. But literally, you can love somebody so

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 2>much and you can want to every part of you

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 2>can want to be with them, and every part of

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>them can want to be with you. But if you

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 2>want a child and they don't, that is the cause

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship breakdown because someone in this situation is

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>going to have to compromise. You're either going to have

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>to say, cool, I'm happy not to have a child

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 2>for five years and wait and hope that it happens,

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>then hope that he changes his mind because there's no guarantee,

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.400
<v Speaker 2>or he has to compromise and say, fine, I'll have

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>a child in the next five years. But then is

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 2>he going to resent that? Is he going to resent

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the child? Is he going to resent you? Because it's

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a big life change. So one of you here is

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 2>making a compromise. You need to decide who, you need

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to decide what the result of that is going to be.

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>And if you want that.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Not only is he gonna be resent for because he's

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>had children when he doesn't want to have them, Is

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he going to be a shit dad? Is he going

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a shit father to these children? Because it's

0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>not what he wanted in the first place. And I

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 1>think that's why these conversations are so important, Because you

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>might foresee a future that you want with someone, but

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>is that person that person that you foresee this future with,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>this person that you're holding onto, are they going to

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>be able to give you all of the compartments of

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that life, all of the bits and pieces that will

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>actually make you happy in the long run, or you're

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to fit a triangle into a square.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've answered that question.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a hard one because you know, we never

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 1>want to say break up, because I don't think that

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that's necessarily the solution all the time. But very big,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 1>life changing conversations need to be had, and sometimes it's

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>really scary to have them because you're scared of the answer.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I just want to add one more thing in addition,

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 2>but I just want to say that if this comes

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 2>to the point where you guys aren't in alignment and

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the relationship ends, I don't want you to feel like

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 2>it's the end of the world. Of course, you're going

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to be very very upset, and it's a whole everything's

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>going to change for you. A life is going to

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>start that you haven't had before. But that doesn't have

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to be scary, and it doesn't have to be the

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>end of the world. Of course, you can mourn the relationship,

0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>but then you can be excited for what's to come.

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And I'm only saying if it goes down that track,

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 2>because chances are you haven't had a relationship breakdown like

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>that before, and that's going to be really scary for you.

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, it will be scary, and those

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>emotions are normal, and it will feel absolutely fucking shit,

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and those emotions are normal, you know. I think saying

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.719
<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't have to be I think it will be,

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's okay that it is totally And

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 2>that's it. Anyways, that's it from us, guys. We have

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of news for you though, just in housekeeping. Yes,

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.640
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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow on Friday. Bat Chun Cut is actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>I know that we missed last week's episode. I know

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys like I hate you. You are unreliable, but

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:41.759
<v Speaker 1>guess what. We've got two kids and.

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be getting married tomorrow, so we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend our day recording an episode. We would

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<v Speaker 2>like to maybe go and have dinner and pretend like

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0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:54.719
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<v Speaker 2>let's pretend we're still having a really romantic getaway. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have some really hot, steamy, momentary two minutes sex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be great, but no, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Youny two minute noodles and then we'll go to bed. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>we like, we love doing batch on cut. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>know what, sometimes you've got to put some effort into

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<v Speaker 1>your own relationship.

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