1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Let's head across right now, because joining me on the 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: line is Jerry would get a Jerry. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Good there, Katie, how are you? 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm good mate now. Announcement yesterday the Northern Territory government 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: saying that they're going to build this one hundred and 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty bed healthcare facility I guess, or facility for patients 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: out in they said Palmerston, but you reckon, it's more 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: so the rural area. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's really for everybody, but it's not in Parmeerson. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: And it was a bit surprising that the minister who 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: used to live in the rural area as Parmeerston. The 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: hospital isn't in Parmeerson. Hospitals in Lichfield, the fire station, 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: the Parmiston fire stations in Lichfield. I sometimes think people 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: get their geography a bit out of tune sometimes, but 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: it's not really here nor there in this What is 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: important is that we need an age care facility for 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: people in Darwen, in the rural area for a long time, 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: and if we can get one which is close to 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: the hospital and in living within the bush it's a 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: pleasant setting. I think that will be an ideal place 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: for as here if they need some support from the hospital, 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: they can get it. At the same time, they can 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: have at least some independent living to some extent out 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: in the bush and a much nicer place to retire in, 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: especially if they're ill. 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So one hundred and twenty beds is what they're 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: aiming for, and essentially ten million dollars invested to service 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: the land in that precinct for the new facility, then 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: two million provided for the design of the facility. They 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: don't currently have that funding yet from the federal government, 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: but Jerry, do you reckon this is a step in 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: the right direction and will help to secure that funding. 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: I think so. I look today an I a personally, 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: how many people with dementia and so many people in 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: Thomerson Hospitals dementia, So you know, you need to be 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: able to have a facility for people with the mention 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: that it's not in the hospital taking up beds. So 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: I think it's really important and the federal government should 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: recognize that. The other thing is that if we are 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: going to design this, we shouldn't worry about this so 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: called new suburb of Holts. What we should do is 42 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: first of all, make sure that this facility has adequate 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: rooms and then you design the rest around it. Don't 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: jam it into a little corner. Make sure this has 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: got plenty of room and even plenty of room for 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: expansion if needs be, and a place where people, as 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: I said, can enjoy the bush. There's a beautiful areas 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: nearby as you go down towards the bicycle path. They 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: may be able to put low grade paths down that 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: way for people to walk, but it's a lovely area there. 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: So what should be designed is the area that will 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: be needed for this facility. And then if you're looking 53 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: at a more suburban development, make sure this's got a buffet, 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: the something extend around that area, and then design it. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: I'll get a little bit of noise that government's got 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: this idea and instead that there'll be ten thousand people 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 2: living here. Well, hang on, we're going to have squashing 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: like starting controlling, or we're going to give people houses 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: blocks of land which are reasonable in size, where you 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: can have trees, which you can have a cool suburb, 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: not a hot suburb. So you need to do these 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: things carefully. You don't jump the gun and design the 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: housing suburban side first and then have to squashed this 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: facility in So I think that's important as well. 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and looks it's been a bit of an interesting 66 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: discussion I guess over the recent days as well, not 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: only about the numbers when it comes to Holts, but 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: also about who's going to kind of manage it, whether 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: it ends up falling under the Lichfield municipality or the 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Palmerston one. 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I just think it's it sounds like a bit of 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: a land rep to me. I remember years ago Parmeersan 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: wanted to take over Nokie Lagoon and Holts where Pineland 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: is that side of Holts, and I went around and 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: spoke to all the people who are residents that area. 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: We had a meeting in one of the industrial shares. 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Eighty people turned up and eighty people told Parmeerston to 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: get nicked. And they went away and they realized that 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: people were not interested in Parmeerson taking over. It's and 80 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: I think there's a few sort of things that have 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: said that are not quite true. Parmerson does this field 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: does provide some services, right, they are limited, but they 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: do provide reserves. They've got seven reserves and you got 84 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: threach Pats Reserve, which is the biggest reserve. You have 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: their choice in this field, whether you want a private 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: person pick up your rubbish or you want to take 87 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: it to the chip yourself, so you have that service 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: and you pay rates for the service, or having the 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: landfill sites and if you want a private person to 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: pick it up, and naturally you pay them to pick 91 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: it up. So those facilities still exist. So we still 92 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: know the front verges. The place is now cool inga 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: is the semit of a smaller suburb. The council goes 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: and knows the vergers there, picks up the rubbish there. 95 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: So the li Fel Council as it is, does the services. 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: If councilors want to take on various things, well rate 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: payers have to realize if they want to take on 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: things outside of that, then they will have an increase 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: in their rate. If the community that goes to eventually 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: live in holes decides that they want more services, well 101 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: they put back to the council and the council say 102 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: that's side, but your rates will get a little bit 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: higher to pay for that. Now that's what democracy is about. 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: If the people in the new holes, when they get 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: ten thousand people decided that they had to have a 106 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: plever side or a referendum and they decided that they'd 107 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: like to belong to another municipality with garn Or Pharmason, 108 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: well that's their right to do that. And then you 109 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: would say, well, then the minister might decide, well this 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: should be moved. But up till now this brand is 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: it fill the people who are going to live in 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: there your listial. And there's nothing wrong with councilors living 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: side by side. All the suburbs in Darwin, sorry, all 114 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: the municipalities say in Melbourne live side by side. People 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: will go across borders all the time. If I want 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: to go and swim in the swimming pool at Catherine, 117 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: they don't say, oh, you don't come from here, You're 118 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: not allowed. I pay my feeling for swim from what 119 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: he had his mum Nightcliffe Pool. I can, but okay, 120 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: And to say also the facilities are all sort of 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: completely run by parmersan. The rugby league facility was built 122 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: by the government, the soccer fields were all built by 123 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: the government. The argy rules were all built by the government. 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: The government pays for that water park and they continue 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: to pay for it for free. So when this field 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: was asking for a pool, just don't forget you've got 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Lee and your recreation. They paid by the government. So 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: all this field said, well, if you can do that 129 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: for those two munster tellies, why can't we also have 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: a similar facility. Well, of course there's a big history 131 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, and we've just said, you know, even 132 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: for both councils. But I, as I said, going back 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: to the beginning, I think that issue about who owns 134 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: it is a nonsense. What we should be doing is 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: moving out to widel because the plans for this whole 136 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: area eventually is to put suburbs around the prison. And 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: that's the very reason. Originally they got out of the 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: prison area because the developers there at Northcrest so well, 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: we don't want a prison or the youth facility, and 140 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: so the government changes it mind trying to put it 141 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: in Pinelands, that got booed down and eventually they put 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: it out next to the main prison, against the recommendations 143 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: of the Royal Commission. So the best thing to do 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: at the moment is to go and develop with Dell welme. 145 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah one from the bottom up. It would be great. Yeah. 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, Jerry, I always appreciate your time, Thank you as always, 147 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and no doubt I'll talk to you again soon 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: No thanks Gatie, thank you.