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Speaker 1: Now quick call or we're just going across right now

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Speaker 1: very quickly to our mate Jerry Wood. Good morning to you, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk mate.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm running so late. You and I have

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Speaker 1: been messaging each other and you're keen to really make

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Speaker 1: sure as we lead into the next election that the

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Speaker 1: question is asked whether whoever forms government is going to

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Speaker 1: go back to having scrutiny committees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just quickly. The reason we introduced scrutiny committees, and

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party introduced it some years ago and they're

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Speaker 2: very keen on it, is because like Queensland, we don't

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Speaker 2: have an upper house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So other states have an upper house, in the lower house,

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Speaker 2: the upper house scrutinizes a lot of the legislation, but

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Speaker 2: here we don't have that. Once it goes to the

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Speaker 2: lower House, that's it. So to get around that to

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Speaker 2: some extent, the government decided we'd copy basically what Queensland does.

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Speaker 2: And I'm a great support Robert, So that developed Scrutiny Committee.

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Speaker 2: So every piece of legislation went to the scrutiny Committee.

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Speaker 2: The scrutiny committee then we'll take it out to communities.

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Speaker 2: So they could have meetings in Darwin and now the springs.

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Speaker 2: They could go out further if they wished. They could

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Speaker 2: ask for people that put submissions in about the legislation

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Speaker 2: and then they would come up with some recommendations. So

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Speaker 2: the public and people who are directly affected by that

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Speaker 2: legislation could go to meetings and put what they thought

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Speaker 2: their comments on the legislation, and they could also write that,

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Speaker 2: of course, and send that in. We've now scrapped it.

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Speaker 2: We're scrapped it for about four years. The Labor government

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Speaker 2: who introduced it and said how wonderful it was, then

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Speaker 2: decided to scrap it. So you now have legislation going

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Speaker 2: through much quicker than it used to. They might say,

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Speaker 2: well that's what we need. No, if the legislation is

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Speaker 2: going to be brought before all the time and you

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Speaker 2: need to give a proper scrutiny to make sure it

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Speaker 2: is adequate. And the one was this about the curfews.

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Speaker 2: Now we've had the curfew already in our springs, so

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Speaker 2: we know you can have curfews. But if you're going

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Speaker 2: to introduce some new regime about curfew, well then put

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Speaker 2: it out to the public. The Member for Mark I

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Speaker 2: will have mentioned that he had concerns about it. We'll

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Speaker 2: take it out to some of the Aboriginal communities and

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Speaker 2: see what they think about it. And take it out

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Speaker 2: to the you know Alice Springstenter, Creek, Catherine, those places

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Speaker 2: and find out what they think of the legislation. And

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Speaker 2: here what the police have to say about it, what

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Speaker 2: the as a civil libertarian type people say about it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who has a say in it, but

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Speaker 2: at least you bring the community into the process. And

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Speaker 2: the government was so big on being open and transparent,

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Speaker 2: It was so supportive of having strutiny committees that I

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Speaker 2: just cannot understand why they got rid of them. Were

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Speaker 2: they scared of them? They think they're a waste of time.

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Speaker 2: They're not a waste of time. We should have enough

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Speaker 2: time in Parliament to look at things carefully and the

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Speaker 2: community should be able to have time to have a say.

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Speaker 2: Even in the end if the government doesn't accept the recommendations,

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Speaker 2: at least it's gone out there and people feel they're

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Speaker 2: part of the process.

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Speaker 1: And part of being listened.

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Speaker 2: Now yeah, yeah, So my question is, well, CLP come in.

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Speaker 2: Will the reintroduced scrutine committees, because I think they're very

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Speaker 2: much an important part in the Northern territory of how

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Speaker 2: we run our parliament.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a good question, Jerry, and it

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Speaker 1: is something that we will make sure that we ask

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Speaker 1: he very quick one before before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: I know you probably haven't had the chance to have

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Speaker 1: much of a look at it, but you have you

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Speaker 1: seen or have you listened much to the discussion we've

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Speaker 1: been having about this Ikak report into travel throughout the

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Speaker 1: caretaker period for politicians.

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Speaker 2: I haven't only you thought it was in the paper,

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Speaker 2: but I've always been a believer that we should be

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Speaker 2: a lot more careful on how we want to is

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Speaker 2: use our electorate officers because they are not electric electorate

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Speaker 2: officers in the sense that they're not for politics for

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Speaker 2: people to use part of the Legislative Assembly. And the

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Speaker 2: other thing is we should be very I've always believed

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Speaker 2: there should be a limit on what you can spend,

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Speaker 2: a bit like what I saw in Canada, in Nunavut

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Speaker 2: and in Northwest territories, the limitations on what you can spend.

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Speaker 2: But the problem is here when you put limitations, a

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Speaker 2: party can then pull all the money it gets together

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Speaker 2: for each member and use that, which is then at

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Speaker 2: they have more you might say, advertising power than an

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Speaker 2: independent on their own. So if everybody was told you

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Speaker 2: can have twenty thousand dollars towards the election, that's your

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Speaker 2: maximum you can spend, a party might say, well, i've

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Speaker 2: got ten members, we can get together two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars here, whereas the independent person may only be allowed

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Speaker 2: to use ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it does have some downfalls, but I still believe

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Speaker 2: very much that the spending for elections should be limited

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Speaker 2: and it should be open and transparent like anything else

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Speaker 2: where did you spend it? What did you spend it on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it's a really good point. Jerry would

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Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. As always, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again very soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I tried to speak as quickly as I love it, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate, I appreciate it by now