1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coulson 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: where Luke and Susie and this is the podcast for 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: the time poor parent who just wants answers now. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: In our conversations with him over time, I would predict 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: that on the one hand, he would be one that's 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: very keen on openness and I guess transparency in family relationships, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: especially as the children's transparency to the parents and vice versa. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: But then also I think you'd be equally as passionate 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: about giving your kids some space and some freedom and 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: to not have to be up in their grill on everything. 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: And so this I think we will create a headbutt 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: in his own values. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's ask him doctor Justin Coulson from Happy Families 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: dot com dot are you in the studio with us 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: with a question from Christy Justin who asks about where 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: do you draw the line for teenagers when it comes 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: to privacy. Oh, there's no context to this, so I 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: don't know if we're talking about online or whether we're 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: talking about personal space. 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: So you can have an argue amongst yourself. 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: The clogs are turning already. Oh gosh, it's such a teenagers. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 4: I mean, I love what Shakespeare said in A Winter's Tale, 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: I would that there were no age between sixteen and 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: three and twenty. 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: Or the youth would sleep out the rest. 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: For in the between there is nothing but getting wenches 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: with child, wronging the ancient tree, stealing and fighting. Now, 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 4: obviously we don't get wenches with child anymore. That wouldn't 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: be politically correct. 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: And you know we have contraception anyway. But that's sixteen 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: to twenty three. 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, anyone who's been there or is there 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 4: right now, unless you've got a remarkable teenager and they 34 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: do exist. Boy a boy, it's tough privacy. Part of 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 4: me wants to say they don't deserve any don't give 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: them an inch, but the reality is that's not how 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: it works. Let's talk about physical privacy. First of all, 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: it's really important that you knock on the door before 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: you enter a teenager's room, and that you let them 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: know you need to stop bathing them and houring them 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: by the time they're teenagers. 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: Give them their privacy. Physical privacy is. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Important, and put away the high chairs and stop spoon 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: feeding them with everything. 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: But there's also other issues around physical privacy, like you know, 46 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: when they've got their friends over, do you let them 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: go wherever they want and do whatever they want within 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: the house. What about if you've got they've got their 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: their boyfriend or the girlfriend over, do you let them 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: go into the bedroom until all hours and lock the door? 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: You know, those sorts of privacy issues are also needing 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: to be thought through and negotiated. Now, normally, with kids 53 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: up to about the age of fourteen or fifteen, you're 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: still they're on that that you can still work with 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: them reasonably well. At that point, while your influence is waning, 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: you are still the parent and they are. 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: Still deeply reliant on you. 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 4: But once they hit about fifteen or sixteen, that's where 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: it all starts to change. The pendulum swings to them 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: and they kind of say, I don't care if it's 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: your house, I don't care what your rules are. And again, 62 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: not all teenagers like this, but the general average. 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: Path not all as confrontational as. 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 4: Certainly not many of them will just be passive. They'll 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: be saying it in their head. They'll nod and smile 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: and tell you everything you want to hear, and then 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: they'll disappear and do whatever they want anyway, and actually 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: that's what I deal with with parents most of the time. 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 4: They said, my child's been lying to me for the 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: last two years. I've just found out. 71 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: Hard. 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: It's devastating it, I mean, it's just heartbreaking. And you 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: watch good parents who are loving and involved and have 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: done all the quote unquote right stuff. They've given their 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: kids everything that they should give them, and those children have, 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, become teenagers and started to demand things 77 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: from them that just you know, don't seem right. So 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: in terms of privacy, look, you've got to give them 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: some privacy physically, but there's also got to be some guidelines, 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: and there's no right and wrong. But what you want 81 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: to do is negotiate it based on your personal values 82 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: and your family values. 83 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Because I mean, let's be honest here, most of us 84 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: are probably as parents struggling with this point because we 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: know what we did when we were their age, and 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: that is there we go. I didn't I was rotten, 87 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: and I was I did things that mom and dad 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: never knew about. And speak for yourself, that's true. She 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: is the exception to the rule. She was an angel. 90 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: But I know what I'm got up to, and soon 91 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: as he knows what I've got up to, like, we've 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: had those conversations. We don't want my kids to do that, 93 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: so let's lock them up. 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: It's funny, isn't it, Because we say we don't want 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: our kids to do the dumb stuff that we did. 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: We want them to be smarter than us, to be 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: better than us, and yet they're gonna do it. And 98 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: here's something that I've been tossing and turning over in 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: my mind lately. As I had a conversation with one 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: parent who was really struggling. They said to me, I've 101 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: always insisted that my kids tell me the truth, but 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: now that I know the truth, I wish that they'd 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: just hidden it from me. I wish I didn't know, 104 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: and that was sincere. They were like, I should have 105 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: just given them their privacy. I should have let them 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: have their life. Because the emotional turmoil that I've gone 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: through for the last six months, knowing what my teenager 108 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 4: is out there doing, it's tearing me apart. I would 109 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: rather they lied to me and told me that they 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: were going to their friends. Now again, I'm not recommending 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: this is a strategy. What I'm doing is I'm empathizing 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: and saying this is a tough time in terms of 113 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: online privacy. Yes, different, different, Kellerfish. First of all, can 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: I be really clear about this. Kids do not need 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 4: to be on social media before well, they don't need 116 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: to be on social media, Okay, let's be really about it. 117 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: It's not a need, it's a want. 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 4: But legally they're not supposed to be on social media 119 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: until they're thirteen. 120 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: And that's only. 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: Because all of the platforms that run these social media sites, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblaw, Snapchat, 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: yellow Kick, Instagram, and so on and so forth, they 123 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: they have US federal law requirements collect data on. 124 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: Anybody under the age of twelve. 125 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why it's not because kids are mature 126 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: enough when they're thirteen to have social media. 127 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: I know adults who aren't. 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 4: Mature enough to have social media, and so they're going 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: to be on there from the age of thirteen. And 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 4: I believe that in the early years of their online experience, 131 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: their social media experience, we should be monitoring and we 132 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: should have access to their accounts, and then as they 133 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: demonstrate the capacity to use them, well, we should give 134 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: them more and more privacy until they're allowed to have 135 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: their own passwords. Now you can argue, well, you just 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: keep their password for good, and that's fine, but once 137 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: they're fifteen, they'll just create new accounts and you won't 138 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: know about them. 139 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: And my mum doesn't have my password. 140 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: No mine does. But it's interesting because for that that 141 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: doesn't intimidate me because by example, Susie and I have 142 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: access to each other's stuff. Now we have complete pasts. 143 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: There's nothing that is locked from each other. And so 144 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: as an example, as our kids grow up, I would 145 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: just see that as a natural they can see the transparency, 146 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: can get into everything on my phone and my email 147 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: and my and every now and then I just go 148 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: someone's replied to an email that apparently like sense and 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: she goes, I saw it there, and I replied to it. 150 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: But look, look, you're thinking like an adult. Once you 151 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: become a fifteen year old boy who has a love 152 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: interest or six and who wants to share memes that 153 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: parents may not approve of because of some of the 154 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: content in those memes, or wants to look stuff up 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: that parents are going to be happy about, that's where 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: it starts to get tricky. And this is where as parents, 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 4: we rely on the very best teaching in the early 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: years and then at some point we have to just 159 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: defer to them. 160 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: We have to we have to give it up. We 161 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: can't control them right throughout. 162 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: I joked before about knowing what I did, and I 163 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: guess this is a backing up what you just said. There. 164 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: There was a moment where I was about to make 165 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: a really massive mistake, and I'm not going to go 166 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: into the details of what it was, but it was 167 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: very teaching, and the end of this night, the friends 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: I was with ended up in jail weeks later. I 169 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: didn't because in this moment, at ninety five percent committed 170 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: to this bad decision, all of what my mum and 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: dad taught me value wise was just spinning around inside 172 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: of me, and I took a step in the different 173 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 2: direction and almost at the time regretted, almost felt weak 174 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: and scared. But it's that moment was the thing that 175 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: stopped me having huge consequences, And it was because of 176 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: the values, not the individual moments that I wasn't going 177 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: to make mistakes, but the values that they drive. Not 178 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: everyone's that lucky, but maybe if you teach enough of 179 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: the principles beforehand, when it comes to a situation like that, maybe, 180 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: just maybe you've given them enough. 181 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to say most of the time, most kids 182 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: are going to do the right thing at some point. 183 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: But again, experience has told me that you can do 184 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 4: everything right as a parent. 185 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: You can teach all those values. 186 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: And you may just have one child who falls in 187 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: with the wrong crowd or ends up with the wrong 188 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: boyfriend or girlfriend who pushes them into places that you 189 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: don't want them to go. Ultimately, and it's such a 190 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: hard thing to say, but ultimately, we teach them the 191 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: very best we can we could coon them while they're young. 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 4: We pre arm them through their tween and early teen 193 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: years and we say here's the stuff that could happen, 194 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: and it's my job to protect you. And they're still 195 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: open to that until about twelve thirteen, fourteen, and then 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 4: once they hit about fifteen. We do our best to 197 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 4: keep them close. We do our best to keep teaching them, 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: but unfortunately they do start to push themselves away from us. 199 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: They separate from us, they create their own identity. And 200 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 4: the harder we push, the more we demand that they 201 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: not have their privacy, that they give up their passwords, 202 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 4: that they tell us everything. 203 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: The sneakier they get that while. 204 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: I say, you're intruding on my autonomy, You're forcing me 205 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 4: to do stuff, and they rebel. 206 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: It's good to be to. 207 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: Not going to happen. 208 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Because when I was thinking about what you said about 209 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: you don't want them to be like you as a teenager, 210 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I thought, you don't. You don't win by playing not 211 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: to lose. Our goal isn't for them to not turn 212 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: out like you. Our goal is for them to be 213 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: the best them. And I think, yeah, some great wisdom there, 214 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: Doctor Justin Coulson from Happyfamilies dot com dot are you 215 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: thank you for unpacking Christy's question with us. 216 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: I've just got to throw one more quick thing in. 217 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes we just have to be patient with their bad decisions. 218 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: Sometimes when we override their privacy and we find out 219 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 4: what they've been doing and we fall apart and we think, 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: my goodness, the world has ended. Maybe it feels like 221 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: it actually has. But if we're patient once again, if 222 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: they've been well taught, most of them will wake up. 223 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: It might take them a month, it might take them 224 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: a year, it might take them a few years, but 225 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: they will wake up and they will mature, and most 226 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: of them will get their act together. 227 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Good. That's reassuring to hear, and it's a good reminder 228 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: that even in the midst of every bit of hurt 229 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: and pain and anguish and everything we feel, don't destroy 230 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: that relationship. Give them the place to come back to 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: when they need to. 232 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: Dr Justin Callson from Happy families dot com that are you. 233 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 234 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Thanks guys. 235 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: There are loads of resources available to help you as 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: a parent in your journey to try and make your 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: family happier. You can find out more about those at 238 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: happy families dot com dot au. 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