1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Lala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello, 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: and welcome to the POTO. Today, rip a guest for you. 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I flew down to Melves and I interviewed Lana Wilkinson. 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: She is a powerhouse. She's a celebrity and fashion stylist 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: and she's non stop. She has dressed the likes of 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Meegan Gail, Rebecca Jard, Rachel Zoe, and Ruby Rose and 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: that's just to name a few. I loved this chap. 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: She believes in confidence, backing yourself, and sell rating the winds. Then, 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: on top of all this, she's a mama and having 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: this crazy busy schedule. Lana is also the designer and 16 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: director of her own shoe line, which is going gangbusters 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and it's all about making statement shoes accessible to every woman. 18 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: This episode, for me, really solidified that hard work truly 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: does pay off. Thank you so much, Lana. You're a legend. 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what I have been? I have been. 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Do you know when I first got really close to 22 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: seeing you in the flat, I did see you in 23 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: the flesh, but as a fan, like in the audience. 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Look wearing you look ten out of ten on the 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: hot scale, my friend. But first of all, before I 26 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: get into that incredible stylist, you also have your own 27 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: shoe brand as well, now by Lana Wilkinson as well, 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: and I love it. I'm excited to talk about that 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: and the birth of that. But I love the each 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: design and is like linked to like the Georgia or 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, like it's got a real meaning behind it. 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you know, as I always think about when 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: you look at your career overall, you know, sometimes people 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: are really quick to go, oh, how did you do that? 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: And you kind of almost, I believe, encouraged and supported 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: by the people around you. So when it came to 37 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: naming the shoes, you know, it was really important for 38 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: me to look around at the people that have been 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: there and not just there, you know, whether it be clients, 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: people that are well known, like you mentioned Georgia Love 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: for example. 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: It was just a great supporter and a chance and. 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: My first guest ever on this podcast, like two and 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a half years ago. 45 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: She's incredible and you know, always really loyal and supportive 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: and you know, but then there were people like my 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: best friend that I've gone to school with, or my 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: sister who's helped navigate me through you know, the highs 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: and the lows. 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: So I think having it. 51 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: I really wanted it to be a brand that was 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: about empowering women and making them feel their best. So 53 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: it made sense to name the shoes after people that 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: I feel like that. 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I love it and it reminds me. I don't know, 56 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: if you're a Charlotte Tilbury fan, I'm a huge I am. 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: I am. 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? Like there's the Kim and she'll 59 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: name different things after and I love that because also 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: I think as I'm sure that made George's day. 61 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's such a nice Sas and she's so 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: lovely and I think she loves it. 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: She's the best seller that's coming back like the third 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: or fourth time. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: But I think those are the things as well. 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: But it's also an acknowledgment, you know, I think when 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: I launched and for those people that know me quite well. 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: I think there was probably this thought that I was 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: this like a pr thing like to kind of and 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: it just I can't stress enough. It just wasn't it's 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, people like Rebecca Judd, who have been an 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: amazing client and one of my closest friends. You know, 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: she was somebody who is smart and in business, and 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: so I would run things by her when I. 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Was building how cool. 76 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: And so because she's doing it already with brand Jaggett 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: so or Michelle Green who's her business partner, who's also 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: a feeling Yeah, so I feel like in a lot 79 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: of ways it was a way of sort of acknowledging 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: the support that's given. So and I just really love 81 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: that the brand is being so you accepted. 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: By everyone, which is really quite recording. 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk about the birth of that 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and how that brand came about, because it sounded like 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: a really like awesome but confronting conversation with Preu. I think, yeah, 86 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: before that, I want to say, so my first memory 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: of like when I was in the same space you 88 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: I'd see what likes spring racing, carnival events and stuff 89 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: like that from a distance, but there's like mazillion people 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: there and your go go go. 91 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: I was definitely go go go before a racing carnival. 92 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, because I tend to take on you know, 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: I've got my main clients that I always work with, 94 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: but obviously when they're going to multiple days, you talk 95 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 2: like five six, seven looks each and so there was 96 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the most I've ever done were 97 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: called like a racing season because you have you know, 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: your advertising, your press shots, your you know, stage shots, 99 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: then your actual days and I think the most I'd 100 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: done inside of a period of three or four weeks 101 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: was about eighty looks. 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow that head to talk. 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 104 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: Is it true? The four hour thing? You can get 105 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: by on four hours sleep? Absolutely? 106 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not gonna lie post pandemic, although and I 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: was still in it technically, but I definitely need a 108 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: little bit more than that just with the business, because 109 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: that's had its own legs now as well. But I 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: can do that for like, if I know that there's 111 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: a project on and there's like a shot period where 112 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: it's like you've just got to keep going, I can 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: do it. 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, You're and Obama exactly. 115 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: I'm happy to be compared. 116 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: That's fine because but I think what I've noticed now, 117 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: you know, especially being a parent, is it's like keeping 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: up your routines of like your fitness, making sure you're 119 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: eating while like if I was, I definitely can't do 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: what I used to do, like three or four years ago, 121 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: you know, living on you know, throwing a toasted sandwich 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: on my ham and cheese, toasted girl and like three 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: coffees and that would be your day and then having 124 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: dinner like that's not healthy, that's not good for you. 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: You need the engine to run and so it needs 126 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: proper fuel. So I find now having that kind of balance, 127 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: so making sure that I do take that time for 128 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: myself so I can perform at my best for other 129 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: people and also my family is wow. 130 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: I fully agree with you. So my memory of view 131 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: is I was at this event at Thirly Launch. 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh yes, do you remember? 133 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: I don't remember where it would be like I feel 134 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: like I've found three years ago now. 135 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Helena O'Connor, it's so funny. You guys are beautiful swimming. Yes, 136 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: we did so, Helen. I used to you know, we 137 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: usual about fangirling. I was at UNI like eighteen rit 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: I was doing pr and she would walk in and 139 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: she used to work at Scaling and Theaterre and would 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: have head to toe Scaler and my girlfriend Mita and 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: I would just be looking just being like I want 142 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: to beat you. I'm out here, I want the head 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: to doe. And so it's such a nice synergy. I 144 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: think as time went on and as you know, as 145 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: a stylist, I got sort of more well known and 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: I'd be working with brands and it's such a Spring 147 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 2: racing brand. 148 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: It was you could never go wrong with itver go wrong. 149 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: And I had some some of my best looks in 150 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: in Thirly and so when I've been asked, I know, 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: I've hosted some things over the journey and I've done 152 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: different things with with the and so I just really 153 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: love it. 154 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: That was so that was my first memory of of 155 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: you in the flesh, and I remember like doing an 156 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: instant story of you, like talking through I think it 157 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: was like a pre Spring Carnival fe and it was 158 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: like talking through. 159 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: Look true story that event. I was launching the shoes the. 160 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Next day, I remember, because it was all I was like, 161 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just threw yesterday and oh my goodness. 162 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: Yes yeah, because I remember it was like I could 163 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: not break up. 164 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: When we talk about not having much sleep, that was 165 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: definitely a week or I didn't have much sleep and 166 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: then we were launching. But because Helen had been such 167 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: a friend and so supportive of my career and not 168 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: just her, you know Rachel Hayes at one two ages. Yeah, 169 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: they're the best girls and they've helped me. Like so 170 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: when we talk about the people that have supported you, 171 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: you don't forget those people on the on the journey 172 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: wherever it is you going up, down whatever for me, 173 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: you look after the people who have looked after you. 174 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: And it just so happened that the dates meant that 175 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: it was back to back, But I wouldn't have it 176 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: any other way. 177 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: You know, when I got to feel like really connected 178 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: to you because I'd seen you from a distance, like 179 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: whether it be on postcards with Nadia or you know, 180 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: like they'd be little things i'd see you from a distance, 181 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: but i'd never And so I'm glad you did that 182 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: because that's probably why the POD's here this chat today, 183 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: because I was like legend, super knowledgeable. The thing that 184 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: I love about when you talk about fashion is like 185 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel too far away from me, like I 186 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: feel like accessible, Like I'm like I would wear that, 187 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I would wear that dress. 188 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: I think that's really important. 189 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: I appreciate their feedback because I think for me going 190 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: through you know, I mean I've been to styles now 191 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: for eleven years. Yeah, and I feel like when I 192 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: first started, I could never understand where people would talk 193 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: about fashion like sounds terrible, like they're saving a life. 194 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I believe that. 195 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: Fashion is you know, it's one of those things that 196 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: can really like speak volumes about how you're feeling, and 197 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: it can really you know, I won't steal this. 198 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: I'll still this line actually off Rachel's. 199 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh I cannot wait to talk about Rachel's where. 200 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's a way of showing who 201 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: you are without having to speak, and it's not frivolous, 202 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: and you know, and I think even as we look 203 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: back at the pandemic, you know, I know myself, I 204 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: didn't feel like me. I kind of felt it to 205 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: be lost. I'm like, I'm not this girl that's walking 206 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: around in a less of size, you know, active with 207 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: like it really does make you feel good. And so 208 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: when I first started I remember going to Fashion Weeks 209 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: and you know, people that I really respected and sort 210 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: of acknowledging that to them and being like, this is 211 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: really great, or you do some beautiful works by me, 212 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: and I kind of it was kind of like put 213 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: your nose in the air and turn their head. 214 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: And that disheartening, yes. 215 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Because I think it's almost like this is a craft 216 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: and it's to be acknowledged, and it's important to be creative, 217 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: but it's also important to be a good person. And 218 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: I think for me, I kind of made that deal 219 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: with myself that no matter where my career career ended up, 220 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: or where who I got to work with or what 221 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: I would do or never ever talk to somebody or 222 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: speak to somebody like that. Like so I think for me, 223 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 2: it was always really important to make it really accessible 224 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: because it should be fun, you know. And I think 225 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: with all of this inspiration that we get, which is amazing, 226 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: but it's really overwhelming. You're looking at Pinterest, you're looking online, 227 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: you're looking at Instagram, you're looking at your friends. We 228 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: are in a world where we naturally compare ourselves. So 229 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: how about we just break it down and make it 230 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: fun so that we can visualize ourselves in it. 231 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: That's what it should be about. 232 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: You know. I love that. I love you Mint. I 233 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: also loved watching the Rachel Zoe Project. 234 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah it was it was the reason. 235 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: But can you take it? 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: Can you take me? 237 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: And this is I know I'm dumping around Timeline wise, 238 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: it's fine, but you got a call because she was 239 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: coming to town, and take me through it. Because you 240 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what you're walking into her. 241 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: I had no idea. So I was in twenty I 242 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 3: feel like I was twenty. 243 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: Fifteen, twenty fifteen, and I got a phone call from 244 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: Judio Romano. 245 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: From Romano, Beck is kind of like a pr matriarch. 246 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: And in Melbourne, and I was going into a meeting 247 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: and I was told it was something for Chadstone. So 248 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking, okay, it's probably you know, doing some 249 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: model activations or launching spring summer. Sat around a table 250 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: and she said, right, so I've cold brought you in here. 251 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: We fashion is fashion capital is bringing out That's what 252 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: Chadston gets called in Melbourne is bringing out a style icon. 253 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: And we want you to work alongside her team. You'll 254 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: be working directly with her, you'll be dressing her and 255 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: you'll have to spend the week with her, and it's 256 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: rachel Zo and I was like, and I think she 257 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: knew because Judy knows me quite well. 258 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: But I just kept thinking actical actic coal because really, 259 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: I'm going. 260 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: Yes, did you want to say, like, what was your 261 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: family saying? I die? I died bananas? 262 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: She'd always say bananas, this is banana. 263 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 264 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: So I really, I really really had that moment and 265 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: I was like, just be cool, and I was like, 266 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is amazing. And then you know, 267 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: you get down to the business of like what you 268 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: need to do, you know, and it was amazing experience 269 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: even just thinking about the brands that you were going 270 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: to I was gonna have access to to work with her, 271 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: but I remember sort of like walking out of that 272 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: office and back then and they were in South there 273 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: and kind of literally doing that high five jump, you know, 274 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: those cheesy things you see in the movies. 275 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: That was me and I rang my husband. I'm like, 276 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: you're not gonna effing believe. 277 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: And it was really one of the most extraordinary experiences 278 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: that I've ever had in my career, because I think 279 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: for me to be able, first of all, to liaise 280 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: with her team was really exciting because I was like, 281 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm like at that point, Brad Grescie 282 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: wasn't there. 283 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: It was a girl by the name of Kiley and 284 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: she had also started. 285 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: Her but yes, I know exactly who you're talking about. 286 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was really that was really extraordinary, and 287 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: you know, so we just spent I remember it was 288 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: like probably two or three weeks prepping for it, and 289 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: every brand you could think of, like we were working with, 290 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: we were liaising with, and there were some looks to 291 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: where they would you know which rightly, So when you're 292 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: at that level that were like, oh, we'd love to 293 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: get this, this and this, You're like, okay, great, and 294 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: you know, you'd facilitate that, and then I'd go. 295 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: A bit rogue and be like anyway. 296 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: And so we were leading up to that week and 297 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: I remember there we were at Crown Towers in one 298 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: of their amazing villas, setting up and with the Romano 299 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Beck team, and it was probably till about two in 300 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: the morning and then we had to go back and 301 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: I still didn't even really know because the talent is 302 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: at that level and also a stylist in her own right, 303 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: so I didn't really know even at that time if 304 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: I was going to get to be with her. I 305 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: knew that I was going to get to meet her 306 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: because I sort of said that. And I'd had a 307 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: team of about four or five people, and Yeta, who 308 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I mentioned before was at my UNI, was also one 309 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: of the marketing managers at Chadston, and so I kind 310 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: of was like, she didn't tell me, but then she 311 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: rang me to go, you ready, come on up? And 312 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: I remember it was myself, and I remember, like I 313 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: can honestly say, and I don't know if I can 314 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: sort of swear here, it was probably the only time 315 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: in my career. 316 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: I was actually shitting myself. And I'll tell you why. 317 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't because I knew we had every brand you 318 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: could think of, you know, international accessories were boundful Like, 319 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: it wasn't worrying about the work. I think it was 320 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: that complex of this is my hero and being the 321 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: styles At that point. For quite some time, I'd met 322 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people that I thought I was going 323 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: to love who in real life turned out not to 324 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: be so great. 325 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: I have a word for it, Dingoes. Yes that's right, 326 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I call him Davis. But guys, Devens and boys that you. 327 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: Go Wow, you're different, And so I think for me, 328 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: I was really this is someone i'd idolized and somebody 329 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: I was going to get to meet. To meet your hero, 330 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: and it might sound quite cheesy, and I feel like 331 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: she's set up. 332 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: You know. 333 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: You look now at the stars that have come through 334 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: and now are doing likes of the you know, Kendall 335 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: and Kylie and Halee Babe, Solace by Mad, all those guys. 336 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Maybe sorry like that they're following her leave. So it 337 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: was that was quite nerve wracking. And I remember going 338 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: up with the girl from Tiffany and Coe because she 339 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: had to have security with her. It was all very 340 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: special and I could hear her through the door and 341 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: I was with a friend of mine who was doing 342 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: all the social media for mer name was Indiana, and 343 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: she put her hand on my hand because I was 344 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: sort of shaking, and she's like, it's all good, you 345 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: got this. Because I could hear her through the door laughing, 346 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: it was like, oh my god, this is actually happening. 347 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: And she was amazing and probably set the tone for 348 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: what I would accept from anybody else moving forward, who 349 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: I would work with. So just completely down to earth, 350 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: so grateful. She was like, I don't want to do 351 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: the accent. 352 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: Because I'll do it. 353 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: I just do it just like Lano. You know, I've 354 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: gone into that room and I know not to touch anything. 355 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for twenty years. You're going to 356 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: take me through it, all right. You just tell me 357 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: what you want me to wear. And I was like, 358 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a legend. And it was just amazing. 359 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: And I was really the first outfit she wore was 360 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: what a Zimmerman look that she'd gone wrote? That was 361 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: one broke in that wasn't you know? And then I 362 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: managed to hit my hands on this amazing birbery piece. 363 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: And Roger was their husband. 364 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: And I'm just talking so grateful and so incredibly professional, 365 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: but also willing to share knowledge, Like after sort of 366 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: all the Chadstone people left and the Tiffany people left 367 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: were sort of there, and I spent twenty minutes just 368 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: talking to it. And you know, those kind of experiences 369 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: in your life a few and far between, and I 370 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: remember thinking, God, if I don't work on anything ever. 371 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: Again, happy days. 372 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: And I remember at the time I didn't know I 373 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: was feeling unwell, but I was pregnant with my second child. 374 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: And I remember her having this motherly instinct as well, 375 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: where we've gone to the actual show and she leaned 376 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: over and was like, no, if you need to go, 377 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: I'll be okay, when I was thinking, Wow, you're amazing. 378 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: So when someone's at that level who has worked with 379 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: every major celebrity in this generation, I'm like, I can 380 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: only ever accept that kind of treatment moving forward, do 381 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: you know? 382 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,119 Speaker 3: Because the exactly because. 383 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, if someone like that can be courteous, kind, 384 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: professional really from anybody else, it's just unacceptable. 385 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: And I just love because I've got I had the 386 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: retro Zoe project on DBD, me too, you still and 387 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: now it's like on rotation on Apple. 388 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: Oh so good? 389 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: And I think as well for me, it really does 390 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: show what it is. It's funny now doing this for 391 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: so long when you go back and watch it, and 392 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: I did during isolation, you know, when we're all up, 393 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: I did absolutely go back and watch it. And it 394 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: is that like when you're waiting for things to come 395 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: and the options that you need, like being a stylist 396 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: is that and sometimes it's not getting the best option, 397 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: it's this is the option. 398 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: I've got to throw a lot of. 399 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely and I think there's many hats that you wear 400 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: like often by no means I have any qualification in 401 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 2: you know, therapy or anything like that. 402 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh you are one one hunding, but you need to 403 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: be a coach a lot of the time and be 404 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: people's cheerleader, which I actually love like for me doing 405 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: that even with my brand as well, Like it really 406 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: does fill my cup up, Like if I can give 407 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: or if I can you know, share something or build 408 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: someone up like that, really does you know? I make 409 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: me happy, I think as well, Like you're working with 410 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: people and the insecurities like Max Mayors and makeup artists, 411 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: and I. 412 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: Work with a lot o. Max is incredible. 413 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: We did the book together, and I will always telling 414 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: me like, this is what I struggle with about myself. 415 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, straight out of the gate. 416 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: And it's like gotcha, And that's exactly what has to happen. 417 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: And that's the difference between even in styling world here 418 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: and makeup world. 419 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: And that's why I really pick who I work with. 420 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: And it's not me being Sometimes I think there's this 421 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: perception of they're your friends, that's who you like. I'm like, no, 422 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: they're people that are working for the person, not for themselves. 423 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really. 424 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: Key, you know, don't get me wrong. 425 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: You can't push something somebody something on somebody. They need 426 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: to own it, they need to feel it. You need 427 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: to do the homework. You need to find out what 428 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: are the things you love about yourself, what are the 429 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: things you don't. 430 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 3: And then we work from there. There's no point if you. 431 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: Like your legs, me bringing a minidress, mini dressing, it's 432 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: not going to work. Yeah, And I think that's the difference, 433 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, in someone like Max Sue's incredible, Like when 434 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: he is on set, he is on set, he's not 435 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: on his phone, He's focused. And that's really the kind 436 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: of people. When you want greatness in your shots, like 437 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: with your book, like that's there forever you want to 438 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: look and feel your bad. 439 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: You want to feel confident. And I've done shoots before 440 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: where I haven't had a great trust in the stylist 441 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: and they would make comments out my body like oh, 442 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: you're actually got really big boobs, and I'm like, I 443 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: don't need to hear this right now. When I'm about 444 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: to shoot a yoga upside down from you know, like 445 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: absolutely shot, and it just all my insecurities would come 446 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: like flooding in and I was like, Shi, this is 447 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: really hard. Words that you say can last a lifetime. 448 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: And that's the they're the things for me. 449 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: And I don't want to talk myself up, but I 450 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: think the reason that I've been able, I don't want 451 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: to say successful because I feel like I've only sort 452 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: of hit the but I would say reputation wise successful 453 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: in the sense that you know, and I have that 454 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: longevity with my clients, is I really do cater to them, 455 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: like we've had situations where you know, weights, fluctuates and 456 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: things like that, pregnancies, breakups like you know, coming. 457 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: Out of COVID. 458 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely and it's they're hiring you to take the 459 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: responsibility away of having to stress about it, like that's 460 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: my job. And I always say, especially whenever there is 461 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: something where they're attending a red carpet, like you know, 462 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: if there's a Logis or a brown Law or an 463 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: actor or an aria like whatever it might be, you know, 464 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: I'll always be more stressed than the client because I'm 465 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: going to do that worrying for you. I would have 466 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: been up all night checking and making sure looking at 467 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: the photos, like I film everything when we do videos, 468 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: and we have those moments because it's really important, you know, 469 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: not to be putting my agenda on that person because 470 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: often sometimes you know, and I take it as a compliment. Now, 471 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: when I was starting out, there would be this, not 472 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: even starting out, just generally, it's like, I can see 473 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: your signature there. 474 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: I can see that's Alanna look. And originally I used 475 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: to think early on, I used to be like, what's 476 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: a Lina look like? 477 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: But I now think Alna look is something that's been 478 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: thought out, it's been put together, the person has been 479 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: considered and we've worked with who they are. 480 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: And what they have and what they love. 481 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: And for me, without sat talking about myself in the 482 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: third person, that's the line of look, yeah, and I'm 483 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: proud of that now. Like I used to think, oh, 484 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: you've got to have be diverse and change. But it's 485 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: like sometimes even if I've done, say a sort of 486 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: a style of something, if I'm dressing someone in that 487 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: they haven't had that moment and that might be their 488 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: best moment ever, and so why does that matter? Like 489 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: They've employed me to do something that's going to make 490 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: them have this moment of wow, I look and feel 491 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: amazing and you know when people google me and that 492 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: comes up, I'm fine with that. 493 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: I ran into Georgia after you dressed her. I think 494 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: it was for the low Gigel. It was one of 495 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: those big, big guys, big moments, and I said, mate, 496 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: you looked incredible, and she looked at me and she goes, 497 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: thank you. I will never look that good again. 498 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes she will. 499 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how funny like that's a great comment. 500 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: I think, oh, thank you. 501 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: But I think that's the thing is you always got 502 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: to up the ante, right Like for me, that's the thing. 503 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: And even now as I have the brand and do 504 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: those things, I probably it's not someone said to me 505 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: even over the weekend, oh, you're not doing. 506 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: Much styling now, Like actually I am. I'm starting with 507 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: my brand every other month. 508 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: But I probably am being a little bit more selective 509 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: with who I'm working with and what I'm doing because 510 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: I age is time and capacity. But the main thing 511 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: is I want everyone to walk away, like what you 512 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: said about Georgia feeling that not Lana through this together 513 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 2: because I was busy. You want to give you it's 514 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: got to be all and it's got to be a banger, 515 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: and it's got to be where they feel the best 516 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: I've ever felt in their life. Otherwise my job hasn't 517 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: been done properly. 518 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: What a great mantra, though, What a great standard to 519 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: hold yourself. 520 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: Out when I think as well. 521 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: Too often people think that the for me, that the 522 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: time or the sort of praise or the approval happens 523 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: after it's gone out to the public and it's you know, 524 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: on Instagram or it's on a website. For me, that's 525 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: not when it happens at all. It happens when we're interfiting. 526 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: It's usually last and in particularly if it's a custom 527 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: piece or I've done things and something's come together and 528 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: you're in the mirror and you haven't got your tan on, 529 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: you haven't got your hair and makeup on, and you 530 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: have that moment where you're in the mirror and you're like, 531 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: I look really good. I'm owning this, you know, and 532 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: I liken it too, when you know, even myself, when 533 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: it's like one of the two things I hate shopping 534 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: for swimsuits and jeans. I'm not very tall, so geans 535 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: don't always look amazing on me. So when I find 536 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: a good pair and I'm in the change room and 537 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, yes. 538 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: Yes, this is hot, you know. 539 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: So that's how I always like in it back is 540 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: if you're feeling that when you're not done, imagine when 541 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: you are and you're like loving yourself sick, Like that's 542 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: what it should be. 543 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: Confidence is so hot as well. So if you're fit 544 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: and I've heard you talk about feeling good looking, God, yes, yes, 545 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: that comes from inside. 546 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: And I know often I probably sound a little bit. 547 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: You know. 548 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 2: That's so funny when even when I'm looking at your 549 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: book now and it's like fearlessly failing, and you're like, 550 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to fail for them. I want it 551 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: to be where they're taking a leap of faith. But 552 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: we're doing it together, we're owning it together. That it 553 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what someone else thinks, because if you're feeling yourself, 554 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: you will vomit that. 555 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: Everywhere, you know what I mean? 556 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: Like, his confidence is key, but that's got to come 557 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: from inside, no amount of exterior dressing. 558 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. 559 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: I can make someone look a hundred I know I've 560 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: done it. But if you don't feel your best within yourself, 561 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: no cure for that. So I feel like I really 562 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: try and make sure when I'm working with people now 563 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: that we're always working on that as well. It's really 564 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: important and I think it's the thing that it then 565 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: works for everyone, it works for the brand, you know, 566 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: because that's the power in selling, right, And I think 567 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: sometimes people forget this isn't just about getting clothes and 568 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: making something look pretty. This is about designers, This is 569 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: about making sales. This is about building brands and personal 570 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: brands within people. 571 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: You know. 572 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: I would often see it with talent that I was 573 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: working with, going Okay, well this is where we are now, 574 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: and if we're working together, where do you want to go? 575 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: What do you want to be? Oh so good? One 576 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 577 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: That's the stuff that light's about because you feel like 578 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm an ex marketer. 579 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: That was what I did before I was a stylist. 580 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: So I'm always about how do we go on this 581 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: journey together to build something great, to build where you 582 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: know there were brands that maybe didn't see that way 583 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: or companies that you want to work for, and it's 584 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: that whole thing, right, do you want to be Nike? 585 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: Apple? 586 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 587 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: And I sound like Ari Golden One. Do you know 588 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: it's the best I think if I've come back in 589 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: life as Ari Golden. I know right now in this 590 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: day that would not fly. 591 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. But I think it's got a great podcast. 592 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: I know how you live in Joey Yeah, yeah, I 593 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: love it. 594 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: It's the best, so good. So I think those things 595 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: really like light me up. And I think when people 596 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: want to go on that journey, that's when the great 597 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: stuff happens. 598 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: You know. Can you take me back to early days 599 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: where you're you're working full time castle and more? 600 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: Was it more property? Yep? 601 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: So I was at Stockland, which was a and before 602 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: that i'd been at Westfield, which is where sort of 603 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: the fashions I started, and more in marketing, yes, all marketing, 604 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: all marketing so and just really different scales of things 605 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: because even some of the designer relationships I had now 606 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: had started at Westfield where I was getting married, and 607 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: just that old feeling of like I want to be 608 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: changing it up, I want to do different things, and 609 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to challenge myself. But I also buy that 610 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: had started to go. I think I want to do 611 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: a bit of styling, so I do the styling on 612 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: the side. 613 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at you little. 614 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: I think back now, especially in this current climate where 615 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how I did that. Yeah, but there 616 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: were no kids at that point, you know, like I 617 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: just had a dream. And I know I think as 618 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: well for me when someone says, I don't know, was 619 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: that really a career? 620 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: If you're being a stylist, like can you really? Can 621 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: you really do great. 622 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: Things with that kind of said yeah, So when someone 623 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: says I can't, my whole fuel becomes I'm going to 624 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: spend every working day showing you that I am. 625 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: And not only am I going to do it, I'm 626 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: going to try and be the best at it. 627 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: And I was really driven like both those by those 628 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: kinds of principles. Whether they were right or wrong, i'd 629 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: probably say borderline unhealthy. 630 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: But you learned that that style of work ethic from 631 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: your dad though, yes, definitely, yeah, I did. So. 632 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: My dad is in business with his brother, and he 633 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: would just like not like it, wouldn't I guess, settle 634 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: for anything that wasn't the best, you know, quite a 635 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: perfectionist need to be had on. So I blame him 636 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: when he says, why do you I heard that podcast 637 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: where you talked about. 638 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: Four hours ago, because it's your fault. 639 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: But I definitely did, and I was always taught that 640 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: through my life, you know, and I probably I remembering 641 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: in high school, you know, when you about ready to 642 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: get a car and those sorts of things. You know, 643 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: we didn't want for anything when we were growing up, 644 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: but we learned that you want things. 645 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: You got to work hard for them. 646 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, you know. 647 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: I remember one time I didn't have paid my registration 648 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: on my car or something, but I'd spent you know. 649 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: I was talking about being at RM I T. I 650 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: was friends with the guys Potendal and Scanlon and things. 651 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Also jeans too. They Roy loved Roy and then they 652 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: were married. Once upon a time I worked at Stevie 653 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: just down the road. Oh my gosh, in Greville. The 654 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: best washed jeans are the best, the best. I had 655 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: the pink I had the pink Roy wash jeans that 656 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: were too low and and they did those short sh I. 657 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: Wore the short shorts and the short mini. I was 658 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: here for it, and that was and that was when, 659 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, it was just fearless. There was no Instagram, 660 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: so thank god there are no photos of that running 661 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: around on the internet. 662 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: But so much fun. 663 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 2: But I think when I look back on those times, 664 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: they really I don't know. They really set the tone 665 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: for how life was going to be, I think, and 666 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: just pushing yourself to do better things. So when I 667 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: was at you know, at that time, I was at Stockland, 668 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 2: which really did set me up when I think about 669 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: my business now, because I was working with it was 670 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: a male predominantly a male industry. Probably the best man 671 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: I could ever wish to work for. 672 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: Very inclusive. 673 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: But you learn really quickly how to communicate effectively. You know, 674 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: when you're presenting and I was looking after you know, 675 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: ten million dollar projects and marketing for them, you need 676 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: to be happy, Say what you mean, don't you get emotional, 677 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: tell me what you want. And so I really do 678 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: feel like it put me in good steed when I 679 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: look back, you know, asal Space, and I had a 680 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: really great mentor there as well, Stephanie McKenzie, who was 681 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: my boss there, and she was probably the way I 682 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: am now. It's like, even with my team, I'm the 683 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: fun girl, but when I need to be hard, it 684 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: can be hard. 685 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: You know. I love that that you need that you 686 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: need that. 687 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm probably more fun than I am hard though, But 688 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying is I can wear the 689 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: both hats and wear them quite comfortably. And I think, again, 690 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: when I look back on that time, it was really incredible. 691 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: But then when I was working on the weekends and 692 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: I was styling for a magazine and we would do 693 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: those shoots on the weekend, I'd pile racks and clothes 694 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: into my car. And then I was literally working seven 695 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: days a week just trying to build this thing. 696 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk about the Ruby Rose moment? Because that 697 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: happened in that really did. 698 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: And that was the thing too, because when we talk 699 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: about things happening, I couldn't. Sort of again, social media 700 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: was only in its infancy that time, particularly a Ruby 701 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: Rose like it was Instagram and come on, and I 702 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: was one of those people because of my work ethic. 703 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: It's like when I'm at work, I'm working on Stockland, 704 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: but when I'm at home, I stay up to eleven 705 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: o'clock and I doing blogs and what have you and 706 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: sourcing and we I remember we shot. It was the 707 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: first time I'd worked with Joey'scandese. I was, well, he 708 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: just now become a great friend. Andrew wonderful, Yeah exactly, 709 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: And we were shooting and that was the first time 710 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: i'd met Ruby Rose when we were doing the cover 711 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: and we had this nee On dress, and I remember 712 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: it specifically because I used to love this shop in 713 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: Melbourne or Green with NBB and iring Nicholas, who of 714 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: course is the you know, the brains behind Nicholas the 715 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: label which is now huge, particularly in America, and. 716 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: She had this Neon dress. 717 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: And around that time, because of different things, I was 718 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 2: always showing the behind the scenes, and that was how 719 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: I was sort of building my portfolio, for lack of 720 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: a better word, because back in the day, I wasn't 721 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: in that day, but before that, stylis used to have 722 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: all these magazine sheets and stuff, whereas I was sort 723 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: of going down the road of digital because I'd been 724 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: in it in the States, and I was like, this 725 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: is where it's going. Much to the being, you know, 726 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: some of the stylists in publishing, I was sort of 727 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: looked on as a bit of a stain, like it's 728 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: in really Oh yeah, Like it wasn't like real because 729 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: it was online. 730 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So is it true that that shoot 731 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: was a cover magazine for Covida. 732 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. 733 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: And that dress sold out and. 734 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: That absoletely did and we shared just behind the scenes 735 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: of it and that, so we were just doing it 736 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. 737 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: Two, because we were trying to build. We've got Ruby 738 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: Rose on the cover. 739 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: This is incredible and it sold out and right then 740 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: for me it became very clear. And remember the ex 741 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: marketer in the head was still a marketer, always a marketer, 742 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: but there was a conduit between the customer, the brand, 743 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: and me. And so then I solidified myself as being 744 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: that person that's like, you know what, we're going to 745 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: move product. We're not going to wait for madizines to 746 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: come out. We're going to tease things, We're going to 747 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: show them. And you know, we've seen that with you know, 748 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: shows like the Rachel's Project. So I'm not claiming that 749 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: as this invention of mine that being done here. It 750 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: was not being done here. 751 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: And so it was really this sort of opportunity where 752 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: we really needed to have that moment and Ruby was amazing, 753 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think again having that moment so early in 754 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: my career, and at that point she was you know, 755 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: her Instagram following was. 756 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: Only two hundred thousand or something like that, which back 757 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: then that was a hugeople. 758 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So and she was incredible to work with and 759 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: again cool as well, covered in towns like short hair. 760 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Then exactly cool fleaking it back and you know, and 761 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: I think when you're doing those things and challenging yourself, 762 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: you know, so that you're not necessarily just seen as 763 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: the girl that's just doing the red carpet or the 764 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: glamb GLAMs and stuff. So I found that quite an 765 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: eye opening moment. And I had this full circle moment 766 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: happen at the beginning of twenty nineteen when again I 767 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: got a call up from the team at Crown because 768 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: I do a lot of work with him and they're amazing, 769 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: and she was flying in to attend the IMG. 770 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: Tennis party and they were like, we dress her. And 771 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, hell yah. 772 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: And by this stage, you know, I'm sort of the 773 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: shoe brands in the work. I'm getting to be with her, 774 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: and she again was just incredible, and even that was 775 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: quite lovely to see that even though I'd worked with 776 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: her however many years ago, I think it was like 777 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen or twelve or something like that, that she 778 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: was still just as down to earth, lovely and just 779 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: a cool chick circle moment, and it was really rewarding 780 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: to sort of be able to still do that with her, 781 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, and that her experience was positive enough that 782 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: it wasn't like I'm not working with Alna Wilkinson, you know, 783 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: like it was amazing. So and I think those moments, 784 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: She've got to stop and enjoy them. And I think, 785 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's funny when we talk about Rachel Zoe, 786 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: when we talk about Ruby at the time, you know, 787 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: you're racing through it and thinking how do I do myself? 788 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: How do I what's the next thing I do? And 789 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: how do I make it better? And I think if 790 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: I could talk to myself back. 791 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: Then, just be in the moment, really enjoy this because 792 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen all the time, it might not happen again. 793 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing when we're striving and 794 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: driven so hard and ambition is in front of us, 795 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: I think at times it's really important just to stop 796 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: and just breathe and go. 797 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: Isn't this amazing? Put yourself on the back. 798 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: Yes. So another pat on the back I want to 799 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: give you is your incredible shoe range. 800 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 801 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Can you talk about so it'd been a dream for 802 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: a while. Absolutely, Yeah, And you're sitting down with Pru 803 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: who is One Day. 804 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 2: One day Dream, so pro incredible person, Prou Corrigan, and 805 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: she was my manager at One day Dream, and you know, 806 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: we just really connected. 807 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: And I remember her saying to me, what do you want? 808 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: Kind of like what I was saying when I sit 809 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: with a client, right, but I hadn't really had anyone 810 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: care yeah or ask it back kind of yeah. So 811 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: that was confronting in itself. Yeah, someone caring. 812 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't mean that nasty, but it's just when you're 813 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: in service, you're servicing others now, and I'm very I'm 814 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: very people pleaser. Keep saying no, I want it to 815 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: be about the person, you know, and she was like, 816 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: and I said, oh, I wouldn't mind. I really have 817 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: had this idea I want to have a shoe brand. 818 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: And she was like, well, why aren't we doing it? 819 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: Then? I love that response and it's like I don't know, 820 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know, and it was because it was 821 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, we've got to do it. 822 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: If this is what you want to do, it make 823 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: it happen. 824 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: I think when someone challenges you in that way as well, 825 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: like it's really important that you stop and go Okay, well, 826 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: someone believes in me that I can do it. Sounds 827 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: so silly, right, here's me talking about filling my cup 828 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: up and doing those things. But I haven't necessarily believed 829 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: that I could do it all the time, or that 830 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: maybe I wouldn't want my clients to think that. In 831 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 2: any way, I'm trying to make it about me and 832 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: not about them, like just those sort of conversations you 833 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: have in your head, right, But. 834 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: That's all the imposter syndrome stuff. 835 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm full imposter. 836 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: I admit it, fake it to you, make it that 837 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: was me, even now, like I'm sitting here and you 838 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 2: know it can be really I feel really humbled that 839 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm even here sitting with you. Maybe I've done something right, 840 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: you know. 841 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: But Breu was great. 842 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: And the next thing I knew, I was going up 843 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: for her Christmas party and we're at Visi's in Bondi 844 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: and she said, I'll come upstairs, and I just thought 845 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: I was getting dressed to go to our because I'd 846 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,959 Speaker 1: just flown in from Melbourne. 847 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: And there was this woman there. 848 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: Who I won't name Agen in case she doesn't want 849 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: to be named, but she's incredible accessories. By I had 850 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: been fifteen twenty years and happened No Prue and sort 851 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: of sat there and said, okay, cool, hit me up, 852 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: what do you need? And so I just sort of 853 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: sat there and was asking all these questions, and you know, 854 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: sometimes I was a bit misguarded, going oh, can't I 855 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: just do this? She's like, no, your margin, I'll be rubbish, 856 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: you can't do that. 857 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so yeah. 858 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: But the next thing I knew too was three weeks 859 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: later she managed to sort of give me a rundown 860 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: of who she thought I could make this happened with. 861 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: And the next thing you know, I was sitting there 862 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 2: and wear sampling stuff and it was. 863 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: A real black moment of Wow, this is actually happening. 864 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: But then at the same time, my styling stuff had 865 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: blown up, so I had to get the right team 866 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: around me. Hailey Roache, she's my brand manager, who started 867 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 2: off as a styling intern for me, is now coming 868 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 2: up to four or five years and pretty much. 869 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: Runs the show Atlanta Wilkins's Shoes. 870 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: She does like you know on there, but she's keeping everything, 871 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: you know, moving and happening. And you know, we were 872 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: sitting there and we're sampling, We're trying to work out 873 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: what's what? And then she's building the website. But I'm 874 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: still styling all these people every other day. And I 875 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: look back now and I don't even know how we 876 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: did it, But I think that just passion to fill 877 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: a gap because for me, I remember i'd had a 878 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: Spring Carnival between, which is quite horrific when you think about. 879 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: When I read this, I was like, am I reading 880 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: the right number? 881 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: It was? And that was the thing. 882 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: So twenty seventeen it was probably the busiest, you know, 883 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 2: I reckon. There wasn't a celebrity that I didn't dress, 884 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: There wasn't another avertising campaign I wasn't working on. 885 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: But I loved it. It's racy. 886 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, that's like four before all COVID. 887 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy, everyone's there crazy. 888 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: And then sort of so we spent it was a 889 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen or maybe twenty eighteen because I launched No 890 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: it was in sorry twenty seventeen and eighteen mental, But 891 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, I had this moment where we were 892 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: from what I call like an event season, which is 893 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 2: kind of September to December jam and often you're working 894 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: with different brands and you're doing things and I had 895 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: spent eight thousand dollars on shoes for my clients. Now 896 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: you might say, but hang on, don't you borrow those things? 897 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: And yes, sometimes we do, but for me, the free 898 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: option wasn't always the best option and never worked that way. 899 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: There'd be times I'm like, I don't like any bags 900 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: that I'm getting. I'm just gonna buy it, which was 901 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 2: probably not business soety. 902 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: And then do you add it to your collection like 903 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: housea I have. 904 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: Like a house of Lana. 905 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: There's a joke within the clients that goes that one 906 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: house of Lana I made it up, which is so 907 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: not cool. 908 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 3: That is not a course statement today. 909 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: Love it. 910 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: But there was a room It's no longer here now 911 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: because now I've got a massive storage in it, But 912 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: there was a room that I had upstairs that was 913 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: just shells and shells and shelves of shoes bags. 914 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: But this makes total sense to me because I write, I've 915 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: written cookbooks and the food like the stylist would have 916 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: the same bit of beautiful plates and like you need 917 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: it for. 918 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 2: One hundred percent do and also like I think there's 919 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: this and you know, it's funny when people talk about 920 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: sustainability and doing things. And obviously I'm very hygienic. You 921 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: have to be when it's shoes and jury and things 922 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: like that. But sometimes it's like something from two seasons 923 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 2: ago that's a banger. Why wouldn't we just use that now? 924 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: You know? 925 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: Not everything has to be brand spanking Yeah. 926 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: For me, styling shouldn't be where it's just pulled out 927 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: of a look book Pagetoe like, mix it up, put 928 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: something vintage, have something cool, bring out jewelry that's iconic, 929 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: and then we work with hair and makeup artists and 930 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: we bring it to life. 931 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 3: So for me, having spent. 932 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: That amount of money though and building up that sort 933 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: of I guess room for lack of a bit of 934 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: a term, I was always like, there's got to be 935 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: a better way here where something's more attainable for people, 936 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: like even metallics, like you couldn't find a gold or 937 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: is it like, what how come I find unless it's. 938 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: Like Alu Baton or a Jimmy Cheat, which I love. 939 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: By the way, but the every day girl, it's so expensive, 940 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 2: and I think I really wanted to break down that 941 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: mold where people would look at me and go oh, 942 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 2: I can't have all that. It's like, yes you can, 943 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: and there's ways that you can actually you know, interpret 944 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: the look as well. So okay, maybe you can't wear this, 945 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: you know, Tony made chesky dress, but we can bring 946 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: some looks to life from Zara, or we can you know, 947 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 2: not things that replicate a designer, but bring the idea 948 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: of it to life. And I think for me, I 949 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: just wanted to fill that gap and I wanted to 950 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: make people feel good. I wanted to also really bring 951 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: to life the fact that accessories, in my opinion, really 952 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: do make it the outfit. You know, They're the thing 953 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: that always fits. They're the thing that you can always 954 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: go back to. 955 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: Right. I heard you say that. I heard you say 956 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: like through two pregnancies as well, your shoes are the 957 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: one thing is obviously carrying a bambine or you're carrying 958 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: a bab but you're like, my feet usually would still 959 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: be the same size. 960 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: Everything you feel good, feel good. I felt like that 961 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: was me, that was reflective of me. 962 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 2: And that's why even when I think about being in COVID, 963 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: in lockdown for a majority of time of last few 964 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: years in Melbourne, you do lose yourself a bit it's like, 965 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: who am I without all these things? 966 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: And they're not. 967 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: It's not the materials of them, it's the way they 968 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: make you feel. And I was definitely that girl. 969 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: You know. 970 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: It was funny when I was going through it. It 971 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: was like, oh, you always look so amazing when you're 972 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: pregnant in it. It's like, but I didn't feel amazing. 973 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: I feel like myself at all, and just like everybody else. 974 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: Even though I was exposed to some incredible people and 975 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 2: talented and fashionable and iconic in some ways, I didn't 976 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: necessarily feel that way, you know, And I felt those 977 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: feelings of after I had kids. 978 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: Like, oh, what do I look like? I normally looked right, 979 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: you know. 980 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing. It's like, but just 981 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 2: take a breath, enjoy this time. 982 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to make sure when I 983 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: had the shoes that they could always do that for you. 984 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that's when we talk about who 985 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: name them after? You know, those people make me feel good. 986 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: So I wanted to have that moment. 987 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: How quickly did the Georgia sell it was? Didn't it 988 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: sell out like crazy? 989 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 2: To sell out that There's a bit of a story 990 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: to that shoe if you want to hear it. So 991 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 2: we had ordered we designed that show, and I kind 992 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 2: of knew it was something that wasn't in the. 993 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 3: Marketplace, and you I was like, Oh, I think that's 994 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 3: a banger. I think that's going to be a good one. 995 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: So brand launched October twenty nineteen. 996 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: I remember seeing the launch. I remember watching it all way. 997 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 3: There was a lot of people. 998 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I remember even just being completely humbled by that, 999 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't I'm somebody that most people tell you 1000 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm not really lost for words, but I kind of 1001 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: was that night because I remember being worried. It was 1002 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday, and as we mentioned, we had earlier 1003 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 2: the night before and we couldn't get the venue on 1004 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: a Thursday. Was like, is anyone going to come on 1005 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: a Wednesday? I feel like we do events there always 1006 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 2: Thursday nights towards the end of the week. 1007 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1008 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 3: But it was just and. 1009 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking there was designers, media people that I everyone 1010 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: it was there and it was so incredibly humbling, like 1011 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 2: I couldn't even barely speak. I just felt so like, Wow, 1012 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 2: people have really shown up for me, whether they like 1013 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: the Shoes of. 1014 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Hope or not. 1015 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: But you know, thank you, and that's that was really nice. 1016 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: And also I'd shown up for them, but it really 1017 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 2: meant so much that they were there. And I think 1018 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: you know that that particular night, we were selling I 1019 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 2: think like two pairs of shoes a minute or something 1020 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: like that, and I remember wanting to be at the 1021 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: party as that was happening because I couldn't deal with 1022 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: the fact of watching. 1023 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I. 1024 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: Need to be distracted, Like Kylie Jenna. 1025 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: And the girls came down. 1026 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: The stairs and we're like, you're not going to believe this, 1027 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god. But then with 1028 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 2: the Georgia, so by March, COVID had happened and I 1029 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: was working on the Grand Prix and it was like time, 1030 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: so all of our deliveries were delayed and we were 1031 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: we were needing to put stock out, but then everyone 1032 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: was locked in, like the whole country we're done, and 1033 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: we didn't know how long it was going to go 1034 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 2: for I can honestly tell you, I don't think I've 1035 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: ever been so stressed in my life just because I'm 1036 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,959 Speaker 2: oonna operated. I don't have an investor, no one's coming 1037 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: to save you. We got to pay for this, we 1038 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: still got to get put it to market, and there 1039 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 2: was in Melbourne. 1040 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: There was those three weeks. I can't remember when I was, maybe. 1041 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 2: April May where we got out and I remember saying, 1042 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: we've got to put this out. Next the delivery'd come, 1043 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 2: we'd sat on it for a bit and I was like, 1044 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: you know what, we have done everything we possibly could 1045 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: because when you're quiet time, right, because I was so 1046 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: busy doing starting that. 1047 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: We've got the business structures in place. 1048 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was like, you know what, push the 1049 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: button because if we don't, we're going to be bugget anyway. 1050 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's just see what happens. And I remember 1051 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 3: going to Hayley. I bought a big bottle of I 1052 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 3: don't know if it was Bollinger or something. Whatever happens. 1053 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: We're having this. 1054 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we've done it. We've done our best, like 1055 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: we've shot it. We've done it as best we can. 1056 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: I feel confident in what we've done. And we'll see. 1057 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 3: And I remember we was. 1058 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: Sitting at a pub because back then we can still 1059 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: sit at a pub for those two weeks or something, 1060 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: and we've said it live and I needed to have 1061 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 2: a drink. 1062 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I' not much, but I need 1063 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 3: to have a drink. And it just went. And then 1064 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 3: I remember we had a lower. 1065 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: Version of the Georgia that was the Megan and it 1066 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 2: was Megan Gaie and Megan was putting it up and 1067 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 2: I was like, you don't need to put it up 1068 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: because I'd never want people to feel Megan. 1069 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: So she's always done that far. 1070 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 2: She's of one of the best human beings you could 1071 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: ever wish to meet. And I feel lucky that I 1072 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: get to call her a friend, and I feel lucky 1073 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 2: that I get to work with her. 1074 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: What a wonderful body and face and to start again humble, lovely, right, 1075 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: So when people are trying to be someone, try and 1076 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: be that every day of the week. 1077 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: And she was texting me and I'm sure she won't 1078 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 2: mind me sharing this. People are asking me because we're 1079 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 2: going to release that do it like mini drops? And 1080 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: she was like, people are asking me. And I remember 1081 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: Dan Castano, who works with us and consults and things 1082 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 2: like that, said a customer doesn't know the difference between 1083 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 2: the high and line. 1084 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: Set it Loan set it up now. Because Georgia was 1085 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 3: a ten and a half centimeter. 1086 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: That was as six or something, do it now, and 1087 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: so we just said it live and then they both 1088 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: sold out, and I was just I remember having this 1089 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 2: moment the next day where it's almost like all of 1090 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: those fears you have are kind of just shred and 1091 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: like I've just bowed my eyes out because. 1092 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: You what are great, And it was. 1093 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 3: Just like, this is amazing. 1094 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: I remember Georgia going, oh my god, I'm a sellout, 1095 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: like it so and it was incredible. But I think again, 1096 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: you're putting the work, you put in the time and people, yeah, 1097 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, And I think again, I was so incredibly 1098 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: humbled that the girls were so supportive. That's a testament 1099 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: to you though, And like you, like going back to 1100 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: the Star this part where you were saying you were 1101 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: so excited to meet certain designers and people really big 1102 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: in the fashion world when you were kind of like 1103 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: just starting out and some people weren't super nice to you, 1104 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: and you were like, stuff, this is I'm not going 1105 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: to be like no. And now seeing like all the 1106 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: support you get from people you work with that have 1107 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: become friends with, that that's a testament to like your 1108 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: hallmark of kindness and working hard. Thank you, definitely. 1109 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 3: I think for me, that's always been the case. 1110 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: Like there's so many I mean, I've worked with incredible 1111 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 2: women and men as well, and there's photos that are 1112 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 2: amazing of them that have never seen the light day 1113 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: because I've just never wanted to see to peeback off 1114 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 2: them in any way, you know, Like I never said 1115 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 2: to anyone tag me in a photo. When I give shoes, 1116 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 2: I never say you need to post that. My belief 1117 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: and it's at the core of everything we do is 1118 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: if you love something enough, you'll share it anyway. 1119 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 3: You'll want to tell people. 1120 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: It's like when you have a good experience, you want 1121 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: to tell people about it, you want to share, And that, 1122 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: for me, I think is why you know, I think 1123 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 2: I've had the career longevity I've had. I think that's 1124 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: where the brand was able to navigate. And also hard 1125 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 2: work from my team, like we've been on the line. 1126 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 2: I feel like we've all worked around in say five 1127 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: days a year since this COVID thing happened. 1128 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,959 Speaker 3: You know, is that when you. 1129 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: Put in and you lead with authenticity, the organic stuff 1130 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: just comes, you know. 1131 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 3: And I think early on in my. 1132 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: Career, I was always like, I've got to do this 1133 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: I've got. 1134 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: To do that. 1135 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: But it's like it's going to come people that'll go, 1136 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 2: You've got to put shoes on this person. 1137 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, that'll come. 1138 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 2: That'll happen its way, that'll that'll be, there'll be something 1139 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: that the door opens, or. 1140 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 3: Let those things happen. Don't force them, you know. 1141 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a really a question that 1142 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: I feel like probably you've been asked all the time. 1143 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: It's not related to your career. This is a probably 1144 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 1: if anyone, but I'm obsessed with this movie that's about 1145 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: to come out. Are you excited for House of Gucci? 1146 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: I am totally excited for House of Gucci? 1147 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: How good does it looks? Amazing? 1148 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,479 Speaker 2: I mean I'm excited because I feel like we haven't 1149 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 2: had a show probably since like a film since maybe 1150 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 2: Devil Wes Prier, where the clothes are almost the maiden character. 1151 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: Have you seen Assassination of Gianni? 1152 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 3: Oh, actually, that's that's a lie. 1153 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: You're right. 1154 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 3: That was insane. That was insane, if you know what. 1155 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 3: I watched that through COVID. 1156 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: It's quite scary, always full on and quite disturbing as well. Amazing, amazing, amazing, 1157 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: and I'm really into at the moment all of his 1158 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: American crime. So I've just finished watching Impeachment so good, 1159 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And then I was like, oh my god, 1160 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: there's only I don't know how this ends, but I 1161 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: have to keep watching it. And then after I watched it, 1162 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: I've watched Okay, that's the fictional. Now I'm going to 1163 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: watch the Clinton affair and I'm going to listen to 1164 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: Montic Kolinski and I'm like, this would not happen today 1165 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: where she was shamed like that, it would not happen, 1166 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's sad, like that's where the nineties were at. 1167 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: It was like, it's the. 1168 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: Girl, Yeah, the nineties, you know. 1169 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: So I feel like when we talk about a house 1170 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 2: of Gucci, I'm like, I'm excited for the theater of it. 1171 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 2: I'm excited for the fashion, and I'm excited to see 1172 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: Lady Gaga. I think she showed we we had a 1173 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 2: little conversation off air where I think for a long 1174 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 2: time I thought, I want to be an actor, and 1175 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 2: if I'm not going to be an actor, then I'm 1176 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 2: going to be a reporter on E. 1177 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: I know you love watching E. I love watching E. 1178 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm a red carpet I watched That's My When they asked. 1179 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: Me to work for them my again, I'm like, oh 1180 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: my god again, Frivly, I feel so exciting, Like e 1181 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: is an incredible and I feel like it's got a 1182 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: bit lost online with streaming and stuff at the moment, 1183 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 2: but that's where the content we create on Closure still 1184 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: has such a major place because you can't go behind 1185 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: the scenes like that, Like you know, I remember back 1186 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,479 Speaker 2: in the day, Joan Rivers would be sitting there again 1187 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 2: saying crush things you could never get away with now, 1188 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 2: but just really setting the tone and taking people behind 1189 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 2: the scenes of the process of what happens to get 1190 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 2: on that carpet, you know, And that was one of 1191 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: the things I know, every red carpet I've ever done, 1192 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: I always try and document it, like take people. There's 1193 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: so good, it's so much more than just the photo 1194 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: at the end. And I think with House of Gucci, 1195 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: we're really going to see that. 1196 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 3: And I think she. 1197 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 2: Showed her acting chops insborn, so I really think we're 1198 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: all going to be pleasantly surprised. 1199 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 3: I just can't wait. Bring it on. 1200 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: I watched it into the Adam Driver, Yes, who plays 1201 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: yet and Steve Colbert was like, how does it feel 1202 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: wearing because they source proper Gucci flows and he goes, 1203 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: it feels a lot nicer on your skin, like actually said, 1204 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, and the cars are really nice and everything. 1205 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: Final question. I could talk to you all day. I know. 1206 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, Wow, we've gone quick. 1207 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: So it's gone so fast. Is there like a dream 1208 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: gig or a dream human that you just loved, like Oscars? 1209 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: Someone going to the Oscar? 1210 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 2: I think I think any styles would say the Oscars. 1211 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: I've been fortunate to do someone for the Tony Awards, 1212 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 2: A really passing wait. 1213 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 3: For that, but I think, yeah, the Oscars. 1214 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 1: But even for me, I guess having my brand now 1215 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: and sort of wanting to extend that in different ways, 1216 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: having the having it on you know, huge celebrities that 1217 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: are very current, like the Kardashians or Biba or you 1218 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: know the Jenas, Like that's. 1219 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 3: An incredible Biber, I know, just incredible. 1220 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 2: And I think those things again, I really believe you've 1221 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 2: got to manifest that stuff, but you can't force it right, 1222 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 2: Like I've got relationships fortunately with my network that I've 1223 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 2: I've got you know that you could probably reach out 1224 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 2: to it, but I'm like, no, let things happen organically, 1225 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, And that's happened. 1226 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 3: We've had moments, you know. 1227 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: For example, when Rita Aro was here, she was wearing 1228 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: the Georgia and it's like, oh my god. 1229 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 1230 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 2: And it's even when you talk about the six degrees 1231 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: of separation, and even people in the industry that I 1232 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 2: really respect them, they've chosen to. 1233 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 3: Buy it, you know, like amazing. 1234 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: So that means so I get with my coffee. I'm like, 1235 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: why they like, I'll send it to them. 1236 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,840 Speaker 3: And that's the. 1237 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: Nicest thing, is it? 1238 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 2: Truly is because I do the same, you know, Like 1239 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 2: often people will offer to give things, which is lovely. 1240 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 2: But I also know being on this other side now, 1241 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 2: of course money support it, so support it in the 1242 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 2: real way, you know what I mean. So I feel 1243 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 2: very very privileged, and I think for me now, you know, 1244 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 2: taking my brand to the States is probably a priority. 1245 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 2: Well that's my home now, so I know you'll see. 1246 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: I told you your degree is a separation. You're it. 1247 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: Just give you a pair of shoes and we're on 1248 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: our aw do after this, by the way, you need 1249 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: to Yeah, you can be my you can be my 1250 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,919 Speaker 1: ambassador when we're there. I'm so excited to see your 1251 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: stuff in the States, because I do I love and 1252 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: I love Australian and I love everything you've done. But obviously, 1253 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: you know, I've just got back from LA and it's 1254 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: like it is the melting pot for the entertainment industry. 1255 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: So when it's not Oscars, then it's like the Grammys 1256 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: or and then the afterpart there's so much. 1257 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing, Like I always had 1258 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 2: a dream as a stylist to be doing that, but 1259 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 2: now I'm trying to think bigger picture and go, well, 1260 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 2: hang on, what's the other ways that we can do 1261 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 2: those things, and how what sort of brands do we 1262 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: want to work with, and who do we want to 1263 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 2: align with and so strategically, I feel really excited about 1264 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 2: the future. I think the brand's got legs to grow 1265 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 2: its success free base. I think that you know, I've 1266 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 2: really started to hone in on the design and making 1267 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: sure that we're you know, original in what we're doing, 1268 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 2: that we're providing something that other people aren't doing. 1269 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 3: Because I think as well, there's amazing shoe brands and brands. 1270 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: That are doing shoes that are doing great things, So 1271 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: it's like, how do you put yourself next to them, 1272 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 1: but also stand out from them as well and service 1273 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: the customer, the glam girl, you know where, the occasion dressing, 1274 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:40,919 Speaker 1: eventing girl. 1275 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 2: That's who my what my brand speaks for. But I 1276 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 2: just mostly just want people to feel good. So if 1277 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 2: there's something I can do, whether it's you know, in 1278 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 2: giving styling advice, dressing people, or then walking a little 1279 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: bit taller in my shoes, then I've done a good 1280 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: job and I can keep moving forward. 1281 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, Lana, You're awesome and so you I was 1282 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: already a fan before we started this podcast, but now 1283 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm like a super fan and I really can't wait 1284 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: to see what comes next for you because I really 1285 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: feel like you've done all this incredible stuff. But I 1286 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: feel like it's the tip of the ice berg. I 1287 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: feel like this is hope you want to come. 1288 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 2: I feel like there is because I feel like now 1289 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: it's almost those things now with all all of us 1290 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 2: have experienced. So I've got a hardship over the last 1291 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 2: couple of years, so I think we've got it for me. 1292 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: I feel like I've wiped this leg clean and now 1293 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: it's like, how do you do the best of you, 1294 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 2: and how do you move forward and put yourself. 1295 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 3: First as well? 1296 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: And don't be scared to do that, you know, I 1297 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: think through business over the journey, I think we all 1298 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: have you know, like I'm standing here looking sitting here, 1299 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: looking at your. 1300 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 3: Book, and I'm thinking the time it must have taken 1301 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 3: to do that. 1302 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 2: But you've got to put yourself first, you know what 1303 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 2: I mean, and accelerate yourself and your life in a 1304 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 2: way that's going to make you happy. Because I feel 1305 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 2: like we're here for a short time, not a long time. 1306 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 1: I've heard you say that as well, and I think 1307 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: about I think that a lot. I've just turned thirty six, 1308 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: and so I'm like shivers, like I'm through a third 1309 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: of my life. 1310 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh do we want to do? 1311 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 1: I'm thirty nine and the idea of forty next year 1312 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: at first terrified me, but I think now I look 1313 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 1: and I say to my twenty something year old self, 1314 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be okay. 1315 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 2: You've got this. You're coming through with wisdom, lead with kindness. 1316 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: Anything that you can make up for try and do 1317 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 2: your best to do to do so anything that you've 1318 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 2: got to let go, let it go. And now kind 1319 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 2: of be of service to other people. Now, what is 1320 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 2: the knowledge that you can have? 1321 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, I can see that even with your book, 1322 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 1: it's like you're sharing your knowledge so other people can 1323 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: be enriched, including me when I finish you, you know. 1324 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: But I feel like those are the things that that 1325 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: I've got a responsibility to do now, but also that 1326 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: I enjoy doing, Like you can fill your cup up 1327 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: and really lead a life that's full of purpose. On 1328 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: purpose is key, on hundred percent. Oh my goodness. Okay, 1329 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: you are wonderful. Are you so much? You? 1330 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm so appreciated. It's so good to do this in 1331 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: person as well. 1332 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll let me should do a follow up in America. 1333 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 3: I'm done. Can we do that? I'm looking it in 1334 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 3: and done. 1335 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Lana, You're wonderful. That's a wrap 1336 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 1: on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you 1337 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: to our guests, and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. 1338 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm at Gyamo Lollerberry. This potty my word for podcast 1339 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: is available on all streaming platforms. 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