1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: But we do know, as I said that Alice Springs, well, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: it's just about all we've spoken about in recent weeks 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: with serious issues. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Plaguing the town. 5 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: The Chief Minister, Natasha Files just came back from the 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Red Center and joins me in the studio. 7 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Good morning to your chief Minister. 8 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, your morning listeners. 9 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Now we are being told by locals that things have 10 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: calmed down quite a bit in Alice Springs with that 11 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: strong police presence at the moment. 12 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: What are locals saying to you on the weekend. 13 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 4: So, Katie, I had a really positive visit to the community. 14 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 4: Not to say that there is not issues ongoing or 15 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: that there hasn't been significant issues. I'm not trying to 16 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 4: downplay that at all, but it was a very positive visit. 17 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: I was able to visit health staff, meet some of 18 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: the department staff and NGOs. I met with traditional owners. 19 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 4: So I certainly had a very fulsome visit and what 20 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 4: was out and about in the community. 21 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Now, where is the legislation at that's going to bring 22 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: back those blanket alcohol bands across the territory? 23 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: Is it ready for introduction tomorrow? 24 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: So it will be ready for introduction tomorrow Katie, and 25 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: then it will be debate on an urgency this week, 26 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: so I expect it to be in place the end 27 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: of the week. It does have once it's past the House, 28 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: a process where it goes to the administrator, but I've 29 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: asked for everyone to be prepared for that and to 30 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: please act on urgency with it. 31 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: So what's the process today? Does the Cabinet have to 32 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: go through it? What exactly needs to happen? So, Katie, 33 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: we've been working on the legislation. It has been done 34 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: over many days. People have worked through the weekend. 35 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 5: You know. 36 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: The process with legislation is it gets circulated to government departments. 37 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: All of that's been happening. 38 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: It will go to Cabinet and then we'll be able 39 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 4: to offer the opposition independence briefings. 40 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: And there's not going to be any curveballs here. There's 41 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: not going to be something come through that Territorians aren't 42 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: aware of that. You know, you're not going to try 43 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: and pull a swifty over something. 44 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: No, Katie. So the legislation is very straightforward. 45 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: It we do have a number of communities that are 46 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: already dry under territory legislation, Katie. They reverted there eighty 47 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: eight out of the ninety six remote communities went back 48 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: to being dry when the other legislation for. 49 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: Becomworth ended last year. 50 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: What this legislation will do is it'll make every community 51 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: dry and they need to that community alcohol plan. That 52 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: plan will go to the Director of Licensing just to 53 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: make sure it's robust and it's not a frivolous plan. 54 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: And then communities can vote on that and we need 55 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: to see sixty percent of community agree to it. 56 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: And so are you anticipating with this legislation it's going 57 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: to pass this week? 58 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: When's it going to be implemented? 59 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 4: So, Katie, it does go to the administrator, but I've 60 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: asked everyone to be prepared for that towards the end 61 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: of the week so we can have it in place 62 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. So I anticipate by next weekend, 63 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: If not quite next weekend, maybe Monday. But people working 64 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 4: very hard to get this legislation in place. 65 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: All right, there's no doubt that police presence has helped 66 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: significantly in Alice Springs. What is the commissioner saying to 67 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you in terms of being able to keep the additional 68 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: police officers in Alice? 69 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: So, Katie, I think it's the ability to restrict that 70 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: supply of alcohol, that short term measure where we've reduced 71 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: the trading days in alcohol policy, what you'll often see 72 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: is a policy implemented and then over time it'll start 73 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: to fade. So we absolutely have felt the impact and 74 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: you've seen that in terms of police have had a 75 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: reduced workload from some offenses which has allowed them to 76 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: be proactive, as well as the resources from Operation Drina 77 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: being in the community. 78 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so but in terms of being able to keep 79 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: those numbers up, are you confident what's the police commissioner 80 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: said to you in terms of those forty additional police 81 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: are they staying in? 82 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: Alice, Katie, I have written to the police commissioner asking 83 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: for those resources to stay there and he has accepted 84 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: that letter that I've sent him. All Right, we also 85 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 4: know that you know that the Police Commissioner, Jamie Chalker, 86 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: has told the NT News over the weekend that three 87 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: weeks ago, on that Monday to Tuesday twenty four hour period, 88 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: they had in the vicinity of thirty seven family and 89 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: domestic violence related matters for the same reporting period on 90 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: the week just gone that reduced to five. He reckons 91 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: that the number that the reduced number of domestic violence matters, 92 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: which typically take police between three and four hours to 93 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: respond to, have pushed officers back out on the straight, 94 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: but they've found that they're often the only frontline responders 95 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: roaming the Central Australians at all hours. He said to 96 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: the paper, My team certainly do provide a sense of 97 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: frustration to me on a fairly regular basis that the 98 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: service delivery model out there to support them when they 99 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: need it outside of Monday to Friday eight to four 100 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: is pretty limited. 101 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: He said. 102 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money that goes into entities that 103 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: are meant to be supporting this service delivery model that 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: occurs twenty four to seven. So the question really is 105 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: why aren't those service providers working during the hours that 106 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: they're actually needed. 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: So, Katie, that's something that I've raised with the Central 108 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: Australian Regional Controller and she's doing program service mapping. Absolutely 109 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: that we need to fund the services when the community 110 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 4: needs them. So you wouldn't fund sporting activities for kids 111 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 4: between nine and three because they're at school. You'd fund 112 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: them from three to seven or that's when you deliver them. 113 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: So what we're doing, and this is the conversations I 114 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: was having last week is we have wonderful non government organizations, 115 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: but we need them to deliver what the community needs. 116 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Aren't they so Katie's but they can see people out 117 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: on the street. Why aren't they changing their way that 118 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: they're doing things? Like? 119 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 2: It's common sense to me, and some of. 120 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: Them do deliver those services Katie, you know, outside of 121 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: school hours and into the early evening. I think the 122 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 4: Sunset School has been a great success, and I was 123 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: speaking to principal Gavin Morris and they've had a great 124 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: start to the school year. But this work is what 125 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: we need to map what the services are needed and 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 4: then if it's because their funding doesn't allow them to 127 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: deliver into the evening, we need to change that. 128 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 3: And that's the work that derells to. 129 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's thirty five of these of these different 130 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: service providers. I would imagine that there's an enormous amount 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: of money going into those different services. I think it's 132 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: clear to anybody that if there's kids out on the street, 133 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: and if there's crime going on and these different you know, 134 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: anti social for one of a better word, behaviors happening, 135 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: that it's clearly not working. 136 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: So, Katie, this has been some of the positive work 137 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 4: that's come out of the sort the social orda response team. 138 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: And I spoke to Mayor Matt Patterson and he was 139 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: really pleased with the role that that group has been 140 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: having because there is a twenty service providers that deliver 141 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 4: services the Northern Charctory Government, the Commwalth government, the council, 142 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: but then all these NGOs and making sure that they're 143 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: not doubling up on something and missing out on something else. 144 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: So that work has been undertaken, that mapping and it 145 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: will continue to be undertaken and to make sure the 146 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: funding matches it. 147 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: Okay there we also know that you know that obviously 148 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: that order has to take place, as you've just touched on, 149 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: and we need to ensure that those service providers are 150 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: doing what they're being funded to do. But why is 151 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: there a situation at the moment where the government said 152 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: maybe not looking at some of that two hundred and 153 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars from the federal government going back into 154 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police so that we can have additional 155 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: police officers when clearly that is a service that's working 156 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: and keeping things calm. 157 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: So Katie, the turn in fifty million dollars is for 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: a range of objectives. In terms of funding police, that's 159 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: the Northern Territory government's responsibility. We've increased their budget by 160 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: thirty six percent and we absolutely you know, through the 161 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: police Minister and the Commissioner will work to make sure 162 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: that they've got the resources to do their job. 163 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 164 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: The big concern now though, is that grog bands are 165 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: going to mean that people are going to move around 166 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: to get their hands on alcohol. 167 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: I spoke to the mayor of Mount iSER on Friday 168 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: and she. 169 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Confirmed more than five hundred people are there at the 170 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: moment sleeping in the river and accessing alcohol. She said 171 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: that they know they're from the Northern Territory as they're 172 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: speaking to those service providers who go and provide food 173 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: in the mornings. Obviously, we can't change what's going on 174 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: in the is, but people are worried that they're going 175 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to see those concerns move from Alice to places like 176 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Catherine and Darwin. So what mitigation works underway to ensure 177 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: that that's not the case, Katie. 178 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: Very important question and just to assure your listeners. For example, 179 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: Catherine has a full lockdown of the five primary takeaway 180 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: liquor outlets buy police those police auxiliary liquor inspectors to 181 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 4: ensure that point of sale intervention. So we also see 182 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: a number of the communities in the Catherine region are 183 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: dry nearby and so that helps that enforcement. Noulan Boy, 184 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: for example, has a permit system and here in Darwin 185 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: we have tools such as the BDR. Police can mobilize 186 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: as they wish, working with licensing to make sure that 187 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: we restrict that supply. They also do focus on that 188 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: secondary supply with different operations. 189 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: So you feel as though at the moment we've got 190 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: enough police to be able to deal with the issues 191 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: that we're going to see spread to different locations. I mean, 192 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: we're already hearing from Catherine that there's really serious concerns. 193 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: So do you feel as though that, you know, the 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: way that we're currently funding the Northern Territory Police is 195 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: adequate enough and that we have got enough police officers. 196 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: So I think it's answering that question in two parts, Katie. 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: We know that, you know, Northern Territory Police, we're constantly 198 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: recruiting to try and get more police officers. 199 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: They do an enormous job. 200 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: They work very hard across the Northern Territory in difficult circumstances, 201 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: and we'll work with police through our budget process. Is 202 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: that something that they understand we have increased their budget 203 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: and I'm not saying it wouldn't be increased into the future. 204 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: And then the second point of it, it doesn't shouldn't 205 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 4: have to just fall to police. Licensing is a key 206 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: part of this as well. 207 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm getting to though, is everybody can 208 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: see at the moment that with the additional police resources 209 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs things have calmed down. We're still needing 210 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: to go through an audit of thirty five, you know, 211 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: non government organizations or service providers because we're really not 212 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that they're meeting their KPIs where 213 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: they're worried that crime is going to spread to other 214 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: parts of the Northern Territory as a result of those 215 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: alcohol restrictions and as a result of what we're seeing 216 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: when it comes to crime and anti social behavior. So 217 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening are going to be thinking 218 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to themselves, why aren't we providing the police with more 219 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: to try to make sure we've got more of them 220 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: on the street assisting the community because that's what a 221 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: lot of people are screaming out for. 222 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, Katie. I'm not saying that we wouldn't provide 223 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: more police, but we need. You know, police has processes 224 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: for recruitment, for budgeting, all of that gets worked through. 225 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: I think an important point for your listeners, Katie, is 226 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: the legislation that will pass this week will allow for 227 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: you have to have a safe place to drink. So 228 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: we've seen this in some local liquor accords where licensees, 229 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: you know, the responsibility of them selling that alcohol is 230 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: that they need to know that someone has a safe 231 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: place to drink that our whole whether it's an airbnb, 232 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: a hotel room, or their house or they're staying with family. 233 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: So we have seen that enacted in this legislation that 234 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: will be territory wide will also allow for licensees. So 235 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: licensing have been doing an enormous amount of work with 236 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: licensees to support them because it shouldn't all fall to them. 237 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: And I know it can be difficult if you've got 238 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: someone on the front sales counter and there's a huge 239 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: cure of people, but it's making sure that all the 240 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 4: tools we've got are working and that people are supported 241 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 4: to use them. 242 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: All right, I want to take you to some really 243 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: serious concerns that were raised with us on the show 244 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: on Friday. 245 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: In Catherine. 246 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: I spoke to Joanne, the CEO from Golden Glow Nursing 247 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: on Friday. They're going to be closing down in Catherine 248 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: as they've been broken into. 249 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'll let her tell the story. Take a listen, Pattie. 250 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,359 Speaker 5: We've been in Catherine the last ten years providing services 251 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: to the age care and disability effective there. Since we've 252 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 5: been in our new property, we've been broken into seven times. 253 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: We've had two of our fleet has destroyed. We've had 254 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 5: two just this week. 255 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: What did they steal or what happened? 256 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: They take a few meals on wheels, maybe out of 257 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 5: the freezer, smashed the windows to break in, tear the 258 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 5: security screens off the doors. Financially, it's no longer viable 259 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: for us or the properly owners that we're renting from, 260 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: for us to be there. 261 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: So how are you bolstering the response to crime in Catherine. 262 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: So there's a strikeforce service, which is the Catherine Property 263 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: Crime Unit, Katie, and they've got to focus at the 264 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: moment around reducing that rate and incident of unlawful entries 265 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: and volume of crime across Catherine. So it's something that 266 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: police have absolutely identified in the last few weeks and 267 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: are working too. 268 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Can you see though, what I'm getting at where you know, 269 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: every time there is that surge in crime, and it's 270 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: obviously the police that it falls back on. 271 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: And you know, fair enough, they are the ones. 272 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: That are there to make sure that crime is dealt with. 273 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: But do you feel as though the Northern Territory government's 274 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: policy settings are correct at the moment to help police 275 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: to be able to do their jobs the best that 276 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: they can. 277 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: Yes, Katie, and we always work with police. We review 278 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: what tools they have, looking at giving them more tools. 279 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: But I think it's also important to that This is 280 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 4: why it's so we need to have the measures in 281 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: place that stop these behaviors before they happen. So we 282 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: need to engage with the families. We need to have 283 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: men's behavior change, domestic and family violence. We need to 284 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: have kids at school, busy, kids will sleep at night, 285 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: not be idle. 286 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Look, our tech sign's going off. I'm not going to 287 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: be able to get to all of those until a 288 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: little bit later. We know that the opposition is set 289 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: to introduce a vote of no confidence in your government 290 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow when Parliament sits. The opposition leader Leofanocchio said the 291 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: motion reflected a widespread loss of community confidence in your 292 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: government and a failure to do the very basics of government, 293 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and that is to keep the community safe. How do 294 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: you respond to that given the fact that so many 295 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: in the community right now really don't feel as though 296 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: crime and being able to keep the community safe is 297 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: under control. 298 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: So it's getting the community to understand the factors that 299 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: are driving this and the work that we are doing 300 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 4: in ernest Katie. There is not one single solution, there 301 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 4: is no easy fix, but we're absolutely responding and meet 302 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 4: as well as into the future. 303 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: With the utmost respect. 304 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: I think it's reached the point where people do understand, 305 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: like they're not stupid, they're listening to what, you know, 306 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: what's being said, but they feel as though the government 307 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: is not listening to them. They feel as though you're 308 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: not actually hearing them. Now, look, I don't know whether 309 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: this is the right step. I don't know whether a 310 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: motion of no confidence is the right thing to do, 311 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: or whether it's a political pr stunt that's neither Here 312 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: nor there to me. But the point that I really 313 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: want to get across is that Territorians are at their 314 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: wits end. They're actually feeling they are feeling like they 315 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: don't know whether you and the government have this under control. 316 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Katie, we do. 317 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: We're absolutely listening to them right across the Northern Territory, 318 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: whether it's some central Australia to the top end, and 319 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: we are working with our government agencies, working with the 320 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 4: Commonwealth Government, working with counsel. I've had very constructive conversations 321 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: with the mayors around how we can tackle these issues. 322 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: Everyone's got a role to play, but we absolutely accept 323 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: our responsibility. 324 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Do you say to Joanne, like the CEO of Golden 325 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: Glow Nursing, where they're in a situation where they've had 326 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: their two fleet cars ruined, taken off, you know, taken 327 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: off so they're not actually able to go out and 328 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: see people who are in desperate need of being seen. 329 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, they're closing down in Catherine. So that's a 330 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: service provider that's leaving a town like Catherine because they 331 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: don't feel as though it's safe enough to be able 332 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: to operate and it's not viable for them and Katie. 333 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: That's where it's important for business owners and for committees 334 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: to understand that there is tailored measures that are being 335 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: put in place right across the Northern Territory, that there 336 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: is programs to support them and help them. Of course, 337 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: that's very frustrating to hear, and I have sympathy for 338 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: that particular business owner, but we have bit secure. We've 339 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: put additional resources in there. We've got victims of crime, 340 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: but we're also trying to stop it before it happens. 341 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Katie, speaking of victims of crime, is any of that 342 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars which is being invested 343 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: into Alice Springs by the federal government, is any of 344 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: that going to victims of crime? 345 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: And if not, why not? 346 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: So, Katie, we provided additional funding to victims of crime 347 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: at the end of last year. I think from a 348 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: memory it was two million dollars for them at that point, 349 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: and will continue to work with them. They're a non 350 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: Dublin organization that was set up by government some years 351 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: ago to respond and to be a little agile outside 352 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: of government, and will continue to fund them. 353 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel as though that's adequate two million dollars 354 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: when you consider what people are going through at the 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: moment when you consider what some of those victims of 356 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: crime have had to deal with. 357 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: So, Katie, they have a really strong program that they 358 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: support people, whether it's through the court system or whether 359 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: it's providing them with immediate support at the point of 360 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: an incident taking place. 361 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: So I've got I think this is a really important question. 362 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: The next one, do you feel as though the Northern 363 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Territory Government has the right policy settings and initiatives in 364 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: place to keep territorians safe right now? 365 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so you feel as. 366 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Though what the Northern Territory government is doing is adequate. 367 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: So, Katie, listeners need to understand there is policy setting, 368 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: there is legislation in place, but we're constantly reviewing that 369 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: and so for example, we're going to be introducing trespassed legislation. 370 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 4: This is from feed back from business owners and police, 371 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: so that legislation will see the change in the way 372 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: you can trespass someone. So it's a multifactorial issue and 373 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: it takes a multifactural approach to respond. 374 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Look, I think again, a lot of people are going 375 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: to feel so frustrated upon hearing what you've just said 376 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: that you feel as though you've got those policy settings 377 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: right when you know, you go for a walk down 378 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the street, you talk to some business owners in the 379 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: mall and they're dealing with like terrible I don't even 380 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: know that antisocial behavior is the right word for it, 381 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: like terrible situations. You know, you're seeing domestic violence on 382 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: the straight, so for people to hear that, they're going 383 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: to be really frustrated. 384 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: But Katie, what I also said was is there more 385 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: work to do? Absolutely, And the work that needs to 386 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: be done is that grinding, hard work making sure that 387 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: you have long term programs in place. So domestic and 388 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: family violence, Katie, we need to have men's behavior change program. 389 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: We need to make sure and that is grinding work. Alcoholation, rehabilitation, 390 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: We've got those services. We make sure those pathways are 391 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: as easy to access as possible. But there's not a simple, 392 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 4: single magic wand solution. It's hard work across a range 393 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 4: of areas. 394 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: I guess everybody keeps hearing that, but then their feelings 395 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: so things are getting worse, not better. 396 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: So, Katie, the resources that are out there, the programs 397 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: that are out there. We've got youth diversion programs, we've 398 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: got alternatives to prison, Katie. We've seen some real success 399 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: on Grout Island where we've seen the youth arrest rate 400 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: drop significantly because we've got alternatives to prison and local 401 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: decision making and that work is continuing and inter Central Australia. 402 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: That's what we want to empower those communities to achieve. 403 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: All Right, we are fast running out of time and 404 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: I've got a few things i want to get through. 405 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Late last week, Robin Lamley confirmed in a statement that 406 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: she's taken the step of referring the Northern Territory Attorney 407 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: General Chancey Paig to the NT Independent Commission against Corruption 408 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: for failing to declare his conflict of interest with the 409 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: with the local Alice Springs Aboriginal Corporation, with whom she 410 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: says he has deep connections and where he has directed 411 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: enormous amounts of public money. 412 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Have you spoken to the Attorney General about this? 413 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: Robin Lamley knows her allegations about the Attorney General are 414 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: baselest she's using the ikak as a tool for political 415 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: point scoring and he's unacceptable. 416 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: So have you spoken to him about it? 417 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: So? 418 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: Chancey Paike is a hard working local member. 419 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: He has strong connection very specifically have you spoken to 420 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: him about it? 421 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: She is playing politics with this issue. She is using 422 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: the ikak for political point scoring. 423 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: So has he. 424 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: Declared his relationship with the Tongue Jier Aboriginal Corporation? 425 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: As I was saying, Chancey is a long term Central Australian. 426 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: He has got family across a number of communities and 427 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: he always declares that. 428 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: She has declared it with July. 429 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: Anyone that meets chance he knows that he has family, 430 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 4: it seems in every set. 431 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: But I think there's a very different thing between everybody 432 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: knowing that and whether it's been declared on the record. 433 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: So Katie Robin Lamley is playing cheap politics. She is 434 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 4: being incredibly short sighted and stooping to a new low. 435 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: I believe just simply using that ikak for a tool 436 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: for political point scoring. 437 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: It's baseless. What are her claims? Ask her about her claim? 438 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: She's got no claim. 439 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: She says that as a member of Parliament she has 440 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: a mandatory responsibility to report in proper conduct to the 441 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: Office of the Eyekak and says that Chancey Paig has 442 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: had every opportunity to declare his conflicts of interest and 443 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: many people in Central Australia have drawn her attention to 444 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: these allegations. Are you one hundred percent confident that there's 445 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: no issue here? Yes? 446 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: What is the claim? 447 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: She's being very cute with her political points scoring She 448 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: actually hasn't made a claim. He's got family, He's got 449 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: family across Ala Springs and Central Australia and the territory. 450 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: But there is no it's a baseless claim. She actually 451 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: hasn't come out with anything. She's mixing words around in 452 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: proper conduct and referring to the yekak, but she hasn't 453 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: actually got a claim to make. 454 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: All right, let me move along. 455 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Robin Lamley's also going to make a move to Parliament 456 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: House well, a move to make Parliament House an alcohol 457 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: free workplace this week. 458 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: She reckons. 459 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: This is less about an actual motion but more about 460 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: an important symbolic gesture by the Northern Territory members of 461 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: Parliament recognizing that alcohol is the single most destructive problem 462 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory and that implementing alcohol restrictions in 463 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: our parliamentary workplace, similar to the plethora of alcohol restrictions 464 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: that are in place across ninety percent of the Northern Territory, 465 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: is a very small ask, will you support it. 466 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm not sure when she was Deputy Chief Minister what 467 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: kind of office she ran, but that my team, my staff 468 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: are spending time working for Territorians. It's a place of work, 469 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: listening and taking action. 470 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: So do your stuff. 471 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Does anyone ever have a wine while Parliament sitting or 472 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: while they're at work? 473 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: No, Katie, I mean, I'm not sure Robin's got an 474 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: office in Parliament House. I'm not sure what her office 475 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 4: is like. Is there wine in the fridge? And does 476 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: she have a wine while she's listening to debate because 477 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: my team certainly don't. 478 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: Well. I think she told the ABC this morning that 479 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: she doesn't, that she doesn't drink while she's at work. 480 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: But so so you don't reckon that this is an 481 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: important thing to do regardless, I guess to send a 482 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: message to all of the Northern Territory that hey, we're 483 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: at work. 484 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: We don't allow wine while we're working. 485 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: It's my expectation as Chief Minister, Katie, that my staff 486 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: are working. They are certainly not drinking at Parliament House, 487 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: and I think that Territorians respect that. 488 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: Chief Minister. 489 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, there is indeed a cyclone 490 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: watch in place. At the moment, all eyes are keeping 491 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: an eye on what is going on for the communities 492 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: from Groot. 493 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: Island and Ali and Gula. 494 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: What's the government's stance at this point in time or 495 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: what measures are in place. 496 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, so we stood up our emergency response over 497 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: the weekend. So they have temps, which is that the 498 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: government agency is coming together. So there is that tropical 499 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: low that's expected to develop in the Golf of Carpenteria. 500 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: So if you're in that region, please heed or warnings, 501 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: take appropriate action whilst it's early. Secure and tea and 502 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 4: police and emergency services will continue to provide updates. 503 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: All right, Chief Minister Natasha Files, we will leave it there. 504 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time, Thank you for coming in. 505 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: Take care.